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Since: Feb 07

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#103 Sep 16, 2013
Boni wrote:
Arkham, you multi-point post was large. So I'll be breaking it up in manageable sections in reply.
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All Noah was required to do is to take "KINDS" of animals, not every variety under every KIND.
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As I mentioned before, juveniles are sufficient to maintain and replenish the stock when they mature. Being smaller and docile, they can be packed-in, require less provisions, and generate less waste. Then there is the supernatural element to consider that since this is all under God's supervision, He could have, without Noah mentioning those fine details, placed the animals into whatever required sleep or hibernation in order to stretch those supplies.
Also don't overlook the fact that as it rained for those 40 days. Noah had a ready supply of free fresh water to keep his water supplies topped-off and the insides of the ark cleaned of waste. So water conservation and usage didn't become a point of concern until the rain stopped as the Ark continued to float.
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Wrong assumption, again.
God gave Noah the dimensions of the ark and the materials to use. Also He guided Noah in design and stress management - it was Noah's first ship; the first ship in the history of Man!
Plus, God is in control - this is His supernatural act, right? I'm sure whatever means of the rain, it would not be so severe to compromise the structural integrity of the ark or needlessly upset those inside. So that's another non-issue.
It didn't matter how high the water level reached. The ark was designed to do one thing - float. And Noah and his sons had 120 years to build it right.
:)
Fallback position of "goddidit" maintained when there is absolutely NO proof to back up what you claim.

Also, any scientific evidence that points out impossibilities in the Flood is, as Gareth has repeatedly stated, "Quack Science."

Since: Feb 07

RI

#104 Sep 16, 2013
Boni wrote:
For example, horses eat grass all the time. Have you ever seen a sick horse? LOL
You bet your booties. Horses turned out on new grass can get grass colic and die. Even seen a horse suffering colic? I have. It's not pretty.

Since: Feb 07

RI

#105 Sep 16, 2013
Boni wrote:
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1Pe 2:22 "He committed no sin, and no deceit was found in his mouth."
Jesus never used falsehoods.
:)
Did he ever use illustrations?

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#106 Sep 16, 2013
RedhorseWoman wrote:
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You bet your booties. Horses turned out on new grass can get grass colic and die. Even seen a horse suffering colic? I have. It's not pretty.
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. Oyi! we do have to edgeamacate theses city folks.. They really haven't a clue. tisk!

Since: Feb 07

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#107 Sep 16, 2013
Maravilla wrote:
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. Oyi! we do have to edgeamacate theses city folks.. They really haven't a clue. tisk!
I think we have a really big job ahead of us.(sigh) Are you up for it?

Since: Jul 12

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#108 Sep 16, 2013
Maravilla wrote:
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. Oyi! we do have to edgeamacate theses city folks.. They really haven't a clue. tisk!
I'm a city folk.. Eh?

Since: Jul 12

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#109 Sep 16, 2013
RedhorseWoman wrote:
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I think we have a really big job ahead of us.(sigh) Are you up for it?
I'm willing to learn!!:D

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#110 Sep 16, 2013
RedhorseWoman wrote:
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I think we have a really big job ahead of us.(sigh) Are you up for it?
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.I think they have holes in their grey matter.. and I'm betting they have a cue word stuck in there ..that doesn't allow truths to penetrate.. But hay.. I'm up for it..:)

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#111 Sep 16, 2013
They probably assume ..milk comes out of bottles.

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#112 Sep 16, 2013
Maravilla wrote:
They probably assume ..milk comes out of bottles.
Ahhhhh c'mon!! Some of us city folk aren't THAT dumb!!

Milk comes from cows..

Chocolate milk comes from brown cows!!:D

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#113 Sep 16, 2013
Open Minded Bible Student wrote:
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Ahhhhh c'mon!! Some of us city folk aren't THAT dumb!!
Milk comes from cows..
Chocolate milk comes from brown cows!!:D
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. Silly goose.. I doth know you are funning with me..:)

Since: Feb 07

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#114 Sep 16, 2013
Open Minded Bible Student wrote:
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I'm willing to learn!!:D
Okay...we will learn you!! LOL

Since: Feb 07

RI

#115 Sep 16, 2013
Open Minded Bible Student wrote:
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Ahhhhh c'mon!! Some of us city folk aren't THAT dumb!!
Milk comes from cows..
Chocolate milk comes from brown cows!!:D
Okay, speaking of city folk...and this is a true story, believe it or not!!

When we first moved out to the place we have now, a couple of our former neighbors came to visit. We gave them and their children rides on the horses, which they enjoyed, but when they were getting ready to leave, the wife asked me if the horses ate meat.

I thought she was kidding. Don't most people (city people or not) know that horses eat grass and hay? Anyway, thinking she was kidding, I deadpanned, "Why do you think we keep the cats?"

From the horrified look on her face, I realized that she was absolutely serious with her question about horses eating meat, and she thought we actually fed cats to them. I quickly told that I was just kidding and then explained that they eat only grass or hay.

I couldn't believe that someone was actually that ill-informed about animals!! But it WAS pretty funny in retrospect.

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#116 Sep 16, 2013
RedhorseWoman wrote:
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Okay, speaking of city folk...and this is a true story, believe it or not!!
When we first moved out to the place we have now, a couple of our former neighbors came to visit. We gave them and their children rides on the horses, which they enjoyed, but when they were getting ready to leave, the wife asked me if the horses ate meat.
I thought she was kidding. Don't most people (city people or not) know that horses eat grass and hay? Anyway, thinking she was kidding, I deadpanned, "Why do you think we keep the cats?"
From the horrified look on her face, I realized that she was absolutely serious with her question about horses eating meat, and she thought we actually fed cats to them. I quickly told that I was just kidding and then explained that they eat only grass or hay.
I couldn't believe that someone was actually that ill-informed about animals!! But it WAS pretty funny in retrospect.
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Oyi! hee hee

“Life is short, enjoy life.:-).”

Since: Aug 13

Baghdad, Iraq

#117 Sep 17, 2013
Boni wrote:
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I agree with you on this one. Look at all the varieties of dog we have. Yet all dogs derive from the wolf.
But this is a new species that was discovered, not a derivation from an existing kind, or, probably, a kind that hasn't been mapped or traced back to. It just means this is an animal that modern Man has overlooked. I'm sure there's more out there.
Maybe the Ark was bigger than we thought? Or, most likely, the animals were smaller than we thought?
Did God have to direct grown adults to Noah to put into the ark?
I and others are of the opinion that God could have directed juveniles to Noah instead. Not too young that they couldn't take care of themselves but still small and docile. And think about this: Being smaller they take up less room and consume less food and water. That is assuming that God didn't put some supernatural force into play that placed all the animals into sleep or some sort of hibernation that further allowed them to be packed-in tighter and stretched Noah's provisions for them.
Makes sense, eh?
Just my two cents.
:)
Discussing the possibilities of an human build arc makes sense? Not at all.
Look how many species of "Homo" there are. Chimpanzees, Bonobos and Humans all in the same group. Because there where already humans on the arc there wasn't any need for Chimpanzees and Bonobos? Is that what you are saying?

Since: Nov 09

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#118 Sep 17, 2013
Open Minded Bible Student wrote:
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Ahhhhh c'mon!! Some of us city folk aren't THAT dumb!!
Milk comes from cows..
Chocolate milk comes from brown cows!!:D
LOL, very cute.:)

Since: Sep 08

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#119 Sep 17, 2013
I'll just combine some of your posts for a single reply ...
RedhorseWoman wrote:
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And then, of course, there is Japan, which has no Flood legend. In fact, Japanese historians used this to prove that the Japanese gods were superior because Japan and all its people did not experience this flood.
Food for thought, indeed.

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Fallback position of "goddidit" maintained when there is absolutely NO proof to back up what you claim.

Also, any scientific evidence that points out impossibilities in the Flood is, as Gareth has repeatedly stated, "Quack Science."

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Did he ever use illustrations?
Just over in the "Praise Jehovah" folder in JW Forum you made noise about "praising Jesus". Then IN THE SAME DAY you forget all about that and come over here in an attempt to put the Genesis account about the Flood in doubt and imply that Jesus employed falsehoods when he spoke his illustrations?

I find that very interesting!

In your anti-JW madness you'll flip-flop on any position you've made in a moment's notice in order say something opposite to any JW efforts to defend the Bible, the God of the Bible, and uphold the truthfulness of Jesus Christ the Son of God.

Thanks for showing yourself for who and what you really are!

Well done, RedhorseWoman!

:)

Since: Sep 08

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#120 Sep 17, 2013
RedhorseWoman wrote:
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You bet your booties. Horses turned out on new grass can get grass colic and die. Even seen a horse suffering colic? I have. It's not pretty.
Remember, what do you get at the end of Winter and the start of Spring? Yep! New grass! Horses and other animals have eaten it after Winter for many millenia!

So that's funny. I've seen horses turned out of their stables on new grass from eating the stored hay all winter long and be fine afterwards. Of course, the horses were not turned out on chemically fertilized new grasses nor farm-urine/manured treated new grasses.

Perhaps you should have paid closer attention. Your horses could have lived!

:)

Since: Sep 08

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#121 Sep 17, 2013
RedhorseWoman wrote:
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Okay, speaking of city folk...and this is a true story, believe it or not!!
When we first moved out to the place we have now, a couple of our former neighbors came to visit. We gave them and their children rides on the horses, which they enjoyed, but when they were getting ready to leave, the wife asked me if the horses ate meat.
I thought she was kidding. Don't most people (city people or not) know that horses eat grass and hay? Anyway, thinking she was kidding, I deadpanned, "Why do you think we keep the cats?"
From the horrified look on her face, I realized that she was absolutely serious with her question about horses eating meat, and she thought we actually fed cats to them. I quickly told that I was just kidding and then explained that they eat only grass or hay.
I couldn't believe that someone was actually that ill-informed about animals!! But it WAS pretty funny in retrospect.
"she thought we actually fed cats to them. I quickly told that I was just kidding"

So, explain to us again how she ever could have possibly got the idea that you fed meat to your horses?

LOL

So maybe she was a total city-slicker and farm-ignorant "city folk". Let's step into her "city folk" shoes for a minute.

I'm sure that what little she knew about horses they are strictly vegetarian. And now here she is in a horse stable talking to someone she knew who she assumes to be a horse expert who tells her something unexpected that you feed cats to your horses!??

RedhorseWoman, even you have to accept that some people will get your joke and others won't. For the latter, don't automatically assume it is because they are stupid but pity the fact that they placed too much faith in every word you were saying!

Oh well! She learned her lesson, right?

LOL!

Since: Sep 08

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#122 Sep 17, 2013
MarcelB wrote:
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Discussing the possibilities of an human build arc makes sense? Not at all.
Look how many species of "Homo" there are. Chimpanzees, Bonobos and Humans all in the same group. Because there where already humans on the arc there wasn't any need for Chimpanzees and Bonobos? Is that what you are saying?
If Chimpanzees, Bonobos, and Humans are all "in the same group", let me knew if you hear of any hybrids born of any mixture of these vindicating your belief that they are all "in the same group". This, of course, being in your response to my statement about the dog being a derivation of the wolf.

:)

PS: I have to admit, RedhorseWoman. You trail an interesting mix of audience in your wake.

LOL

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