this could get interesting???
Pam

Bakersfield, CA

#433 Jan 10, 2013
Ok, thats too hrd for you guys, will make it easier.

Awake,5/22/69,pg15If you are a young person, you also need to face the fact that you will never grow old in this present system of things......all evidence in fulfillment of Bible prophecy indicates that this corrupt system is due to end in a few years.....as a young person you will never fulfill any career that this system offers. If you are in high school and thinking about a college education, it means at least four, perhaps even six or eight more years to graduate into a specialized career. But where will this system of things be by that time? It will be well on the way toward its finish, if not actually gone!

Watchtower,10/15/69,pg622,623. ..seventh millennium from man’s creation by Jehovah God would begin in less than ten years.

The Nations Shall Know That I Am Jehovah,1971,pg 216Shortly, within our twentieth century, the "battle in the day if Jehovah" will begin against modern antitype of Jerusalem, Christendom.

But according to the WTS apologists, the WTS never made mention ever of anything like that at all! They were there!LOL!

There is more you JW's. Barely scratching the surface.
Please, take one of these quotes and explain what the society REALLY meant.
Pam

Bakersfield, CA

#434 Jan 10, 2013
Seems they were not correct about the 20th century eh?

I realize they have back peddled and now they will not be making stupid pet trick mistakes again like they did all throughout their history concerning dates.
Pam

Bakersfield, CA

#435 Jan 10, 2013
Oh, and EE you realize when you have to resort to name calling and personal attacks you show all of us that you know you are wrong.

It is a tactic you employ often.
It is your way of letting us know you have been called out and you fall short.
Not able to come up with an answer, you attack the person. Standard operating procedure for you and your ilk.

I am pretty sure I am going to hear next how you don;t read my posts and you are bored of this thread. LOL!
Lol

United States

#436 Jan 10, 2013
miseracord wrote:
<quoted text>
Nobody hid the truth to me of "1975." I realize what others are saying; I also realize what was written in the publications. So? This did not stop me from studying with the Witnesses. I have learned more about the Bible from them than anyone else.
Did I have to have been around in 1975 to know that some were pointing to 1975 as a climactic time? Assuming that it came at that time, I might not be around to tell the tale to anyone. I don't know, but I think that might be so. I have no opinion about that. If God chooses, He can destroy me. If not, He won't. I will be happy (now) if He doesn't, before I really knew about the Witnesses, I was simply scared of the so-called "end of the world," and did not know God at all in terms of yes, ANYTHING.
So? Some might want to make fun of me about that, but that's ok, because that would be their personality.
King David was a prophet. He made more than one serious error. The entire nation was shaken from some of his errors. Did that mean though that Jehovah abandoned him? Or the nation? No. And if you don't think that relates, that's your opinion. But I think it relates. Castigate me, tell me I'm mind-controlled, etc., but the words of opposers do not take away from what happened to David and Moses as well as other faithful servants that made mistakes, to the point of bearing responsibility for their actions as well as for affecting others. But again, God did not remove his spirit from David when he was repentant. He also did not remove his spirit from Moses, who made some serious mistakes as well.
Any one can look at biblical history and say the same. the reason for that is that, as humans, we all make mistakes.

The largest problem the GB and the JW religion in general have is that they never want to admit to being wrong. They will admit it decades later when Father Time proves them wrong, but they hate it. Usually, when they have to change something, they just call it new light and expect their congrgants to march in lockstep whether they believe it or not.

And, I don't really think that Moses ever expected all the people who followed him into the wilderness to fund his little operation, do you? did he have a donation box strapped to his back?
Snorkler

Alberton, South Africa

#437 Jan 10, 2013
The Real Karen wrote:
<quoted text>
I don't remember anyone referencing me to a website for quite a while, And I do apologize if I have missed one. But the ones I DO not go to are the ones that someone is posting a silly picture or some other nonsense, you can usually tell what it is by the name of the site. If you have a website for me to visit that has information about the Bible truths, I will be glad to visit it. But have you honestly ever visited one of the websites you are referred to? Now if you say they are all apostate websites, that is being a hypocrite, because if you don't go, how do you know if it is or not?
There is no hypocrisy here, only that I am smart enough to know usually which sites are okay, and which ones may be dangerous. We do have to use our own smarts at times don't we?
You dont remember you telling me of how your husband warned you not to go to sites that were referred to you by people you do not trust ?

I was talking about you ,not me .
You are a hypocrit because you expect that others should go to web sites referred by others yet you youirself refuse to do so .
Whats good for the Goose is Good for the Gander.

Almost every day i point out your lies ...i do not even have to move places or search for them ...ie it would be a lie if you were to tell me you do not remember just a few days ago you refused to go to a web site i reffered you to.
Snorkler

Alberton, South Africa

#438 Jan 11, 2013
Simply Intrigued wrote:
<quoted text>
LOL!! Such paranoia and lies.
She does it all the time then asks "where did i lie" surely she knows that what she said is not really true .
Snorkler

Alberton, South Africa

#439 Jan 11, 2013
MixedMedia wrote:
<quoted text>
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH, did you really say that? You who refuse to look at any evidence of anything given to you.
You have no conviction in anything. You change like the wind.
When you get about 20 or so that will change. It happens right after you voice has finished it's change. Hang in there.
I dont speak to Apostates .
Snorkler

Alberton, South Africa

#440 Jan 11, 2013
The Real Karen wrote:
<quoted text>
I am still waiting on the proof of my lies from you Snorkler.
You lies when you said that JWs were toild to preach that "75 was it" that is a bold faced lie.
Snorkler

Alberton, South Africa

#441 Jan 11, 2013
lied
Spike

United States

#442 Jan 11, 2013
Snorkler wrote:
lied
We know that you lied.

aadriver

Since: Aug 09

Bedfordshire, England

#443 Jan 11, 2013
eagleeye wrote:
<quoted text>
Complete lie.
Jehovah's Witnesses did not say that the "mid seventies would see an end end (sic) to this system of things."
They said 6,000 years of mankind's history would end at that time and that it could possibly be the beginning of Armageddon.
It is absolutely not true that "there was no question in anyones (sic) mind that around that time, the end was definately (sic) going to come."
Six thousand years of mankind's history did end at that time, just as they said it would. Armageddon did not come, but they did not say it would. They said it COULD.
If there was a possibility that the great tribulation would start, they were right to remind people of Jesus' advice about pregnancy and birth at that time and also about pursuing material goals.
“WHY ARE YOU LOOKING FORWARD TO 1975? WHAT about all this talk concerning the year 1975?…Their interest has been kindled by the belief that 1975 will mark the end of 6,000 years of human history since Adam’s creation.”—The Watchtower, August 15, 1968, p. 494

“According to trustworthy Bible chronology six thousand years from man’s creation will end in 1975, and the seventh period of a thousand years of human history will begin in the fall of 1975 C.E.”—Life Everlasting – In Freedom of the Sons of God, 1966, p. 29

All of Jehovah's Witnesses new that Armaggeddon was to be all over before the end of 1000 years.
Therefor with the society talking about 1975 and the mid seventies as being the end of 6000 years, we all new that the end was totally imminent.
It really is not rocket science to understand that.

So you call me a liar, I guess you would agree that the society were lying too.
Snorkler

Alberton, South Africa

#444 Jan 11, 2013
Spike wrote:
<quoted text>
We know that you lied.
Correct ,we all know Karen lied when she said ,JW were told to preach from door to Door that 1975 was it " .

“New one man.”

Since: Jan 11

Location hidden

#445 Jan 11, 2013
Snorkler wrote:
<quoted text>I dont speak to Apostates .
One I am not an apostate, could you please explain how and why you think I am an apostate.

Or is that your standard retort to anyone you are afraid to discuss something with?

Two, yes you do all the time.

“New one man.”

Since: Jan 11

Location hidden

#446 Jan 11, 2013
Snorkler wrote:
<quoted text>You lies when you said that JWs were toild to preach that "75 was it" that is a bold faced lie.
Sorry, but you are wrong and the proof has been posted over the last few days from several WT articles.

But you go ahead and say you don't speak to apostates, we wouldn't want you to have to defend it, or maybe admit it was wrong.

I can see that any little thing you might get disfellowshipped for will be permanent, you won't say you are wrong even when it's proven in black and white. That's called obstinance, the opposite of what you are supposed to be which is humble.

EVEN THE WTS HAS ADMITTED IT WAS INCORRECT!!

“New one man.”

Since: Jan 11

Location hidden

#447 Jan 11, 2013
Snorkler wrote:
<quoted text>Correct ,we all know Karen lied when she said ,JW were told to preach from door to Door that 1975 was it " .
You know nothing. You weren't there. You were given the proof.

If Jesus comes back, you will be renamed Peter. All you know is deny deny deny.
Gonzo

Dartmouth, Canada

#448 Jan 11, 2013
Response to MISERACORD’s queston:“”””Is your wife one of Jehovah's Witnesses now? You sound very kind in your post.””””

No, my wife was never a Witness. The only time she has been inside a KH is for a family funeral service. She was raised, as a Catholic, in a low to middle class family, attending a small, Catholic parish in a small, East coast Canadian city. She is not a practicing Catholic. She is strong willed and a personal and professional warrior in the never ending fight for social justice. But, that’s another story. I am a very lucky man.

As for my remarks being “kind.” Well, I come to the discussion with strong opinions and pointed questions (chuckle). I guess you caught me at a mellow moment. The discussion just took me back to those years…what I experienced and how I remember it, for better or worse.

I am a strong believer in civil liberties and freedom of choice and expression. That doesn’t mean I must agree with others choices…or avoid shining the light of scrutiny. But I will defend everyone’s personal and legal right to make their own choice.

I guess I see the world more now, as an,“Us” scenario. At the end of the day, I believe we are all in this world, this life…together.

Be well.
eagleeye

Overland Park, KS

#449 Jan 11, 2013
miseracord wrote:
<quoted text>
Nobody hid the truth to me of "1975." I realize what others are saying; I also realize what was written in the publications. So? This did not stop me from studying with the Witnesses. I have learned more about the Bible from them than anyone else.
Did I have to have been around in 1975 to know that some were pointing to 1975 as a climactic time? Assuming that it came at that time, I might not be around to tell the tale to anyone. I don't know, but I think that might be so. I have no opinion about that. If God chooses, He can destroy me. If not, He won't. I will be happy (now) if He doesn't, before I really knew about the Witnesses, I was simply scared of the so-called "end of the world," and did not know God at all in terms of yes, ANYTHING.
So? Some might want to make fun of me about that, but that's ok, because that would be their personality.
King David was a prophet. He made more than one serious error. The entire nation was shaken from some of his errors. Did that mean though that Jehovah abandoned him? Or the nation? No. And if you don't think that relates, that's your opinion. But I think it relates. Castigate me, tell me I'm mind-controlled, etc., but the words of opposers do not take away from what happened to David and Moses as well as other faithful servants that made mistakes, to the point of bearing responsibility for their actions as well as for affecting others. But again, God did not remove his spirit from David when he was repentant. He also did not remove his spirit from Moses, who made some serious mistakes as well.
Such balanced thinking. Refreshing to see. I am so glad the faithful and discreet slave shared that information with us. It gives me confidence that they will stay on the watch and keep us alert. It would be so easy for us as individuals to get sleepy and distracted with our busy lives. It is good Jehovah has appointed some to take the lead and keep the flock going in the right direction at all times.

It was good that we were aware of where we were in time in 1975. It all made sense that it could have been the beginning of the thousand year reign. We were ready if it was. It wasn't, and we didn't miss a beat as an organization. We kept going, preaching, doing what we were supposed to do, and we still are doing what true Christians are supposed to be doing.

The good news of God's Kingdom is being preached in all the inhabited earth, and the end WILL come. Nothing has changed in that regard. The reward of everlasting life will go to those who endure and are found awake and on the watch when it DOES COME.

****

Matthew 24:14

New Living Translation (©2007)

And the Good News about the Kingdom will be preached throughout the whole world, so that all nations will hear it; and then the end will come.

(Matthew 24:13-14) NWT

13 But he that has endured to the end is the one that will be saved.

14 And this good news of the kingdom will be preached in all the inhabited earth for a witness to all the nations; and then the end will come.
eagleeye

Overland Park, KS

#450 Jan 11, 2013
Snorkler wrote:
<quoted text>You lies when you said that JWs were toild to preach that "75 was it" that is a bold faced lie.
Yes, it is. We were never told to preach that and we didn't. We were alerted to the time and put on the watch. I'm glad we were. I know we will be kept informed of what we need to know. We have good watchmen on the lookout for us.

Weather forecasters often see the possibility of a serious storm developing, even order evacuations, and then the storm does not develop. It is still good that we have such forecasters to protect us.

Supernatural knowledge was done away with after the apostles died. We are functioning with what we have as imperfect humans plus faith, hope and love now. The faithful and discreet slave abounds in faith, hope and love, and so does Jehovah's whole organization.

1 Corinthians 13

8 Love never fails. But whether there are [gifts of] prophesying, they will be done away with; whether there are tongues, they will cease; whether there is knowledge, it will be done away with.

13 Now, however, there remain faith, hope, love, these three; but the greatest of these is love.

Since: Nov 09

Location hidden

#451 Jan 11, 2013
Simply Intrigued wrote:
<quoted text>
LOL!! Such paranoia and lies.
Then maybe it was you instead JWF. ;)

Since: Nov 09

Location hidden

#452 Jan 11, 2013
MixedMedia wrote:
<quoted text>
I hope you aren't holding your breath.
I know better. ;)

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