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“email at ihveit@aol.com ”

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#1 Jan 4, 2013
The January 1, 2013 issue of the Watchtower magazine includes an article that addresses the question,“Have Jehovah’s Witnesses Given Incorrect Dates for the End?”(p. 8). The article acknowledges that the answer is yes, but tries to turn this negative into a positive. To do so, it uses an argument that has been a standard for Jehovah’s Witnesses for decades. The article explains:

HOW BOUT DAT?
will
Hillary

Jersey City, NJ

#2 Jan 4, 2013
it's called tricky talk and unfortunately a lot of intelligent people buy into it becuase they can't see through it
Harpo Marx

Monticello, NY

#3 Jan 4, 2013
If your goals are fairly modest in the short term, they are achievable and you're likely to get some praise for achievements along the way. If you aim too high too quickly, others might not take you seriously or think you're being uppity and you could come unstuck. It's all a question of attitude and approach. There are contradictory influences over the next ten days but there could also be good luck coming your way.(NH Knorr to FW Frantz on 01/01/1976)

Since: Feb 08

Arlington, VA

#4 Jan 5, 2013
ihveit wrote:
The January 1, 2013 issue of the Watchtower magazine includes an article that addresses the question,“Have Jehovah’s Witnesses Given Incorrect Dates for the End?”(p. 8). The article acknowledges that the answer is yes, but tries to turn this negative into a positive. To do so, it uses an argument that has been a standard for Jehovah’s Witnesses for decades. The article explains:
HOW BOUT DAT?
will
don't know what they article says but they did something like this in the early 90s at the assembly too about the dates, it makes sense that they would need to do it again how else to they keep hope alive... to bad they the people don't know about all the othertimes you only find out after you leave like I did ... People think how can I leave they don't know what I do that is why they think that way.

“New one man.”

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#5 Jan 5, 2013
lise2468 wrote:
<quoted text>don't know what they article says but they did something like this in the early 90s at the assembly too about the dates, it makes sense that they would need to do it again how else to they keep hope alive... to bad they the people don't know about all the othertimes you only find out after you leave like I did ... People think how can I leave they don't know what I do that is why they think that way.
I think more and more people are asking questions of the elders. With communication globally so easy these days word spreads. They are starting to lose some of their control. They spend more and more time on damage control than on teaching.
Harpo Marx

Monticello, NY

#6 Jan 5, 2013
You aren't fooling anyone - it's easy for everyone else to see that inexperienced people are unaware of their obligations, Virgo. You're grumpy about starting a familiar process from the beginning again, but don't let that get in the way of getting on with it. Sour grapes have no place in your daily dealings. Although you may 'own' a project, it's ultimately in the hands of someone else. Deal with it and then move on.(secret memo of governing body 01/01/2012)

Since: Aug 09

Bedfordshire, England

#7 Jan 5, 2013
Hillary wrote:
it's called tricky talk and unfortunately a lot of intelligent people buy into it becuase they can't see through it
I was unlucky enough to get caught by the org in 1968. At that time the total emphasis was on the mid 70s that were to bring in massive changes to everyone on earth. If only I had known then about all the wrong dates they had pushed in the past that obviously all came to nothing. However that was before the internet and the massive amount of imfo now available to any new potential members.
bystander no more

Sacramento, CA

#8 Jan 5, 2013
"...[the] vision is yet for the appointed time...Even if it should delay, keep in expectation of it; for it will without fail come true. It will not be late." (Hab 2:3)
eagleeye

Overland Park, KS

#9 Jan 5, 2013
bystander no more wrote:
"...[the] vision is yet for the appointed time...Even if it should delay, keep in expectation of it; for it will without fail come true. It will not be late." (Hab 2:3)
We have been on the watch and awake from the beginning of the time of the end, and we will be awake and on the watch when the end comes, as it absolutely WILL.

When someone is on the watch, there are usually any number of false starts, but just as a pregnant woman WILL have a baby, no matter how many false alarms, the end of this system WILL COME, and we will be ready, thanks to our watchful faithful and discreet slave.

The sign is unmistakable, and Jehovah and Jesus have promised that the end will come when the preaching of the good news of God's Kingdom is done. Anyone who lets others lull them to sleep and inattentiveness will be caught unprepared.

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#10 Jan 5, 2013
bystander no more wrote:
"...[the] vision is yet for the appointed time...Even if it should delay, keep in expectation of it; for it will without fail come true. It will not be late." (Hab 2:3)
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. work on becoming the people that God has indicated that he wants his people to be.. Instead of trying to second guess when God is going to come and change things... It's a good thing to keep the end in mind..but that is the extent that need to be done...

“BIBLE TRUTHS *NEVER* CHANGE”

Since: Aug 09

LET GO AND LET GOD

#11 Jan 5, 2013
MixedMedia wrote:
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I think more and more people are asking questions of the elders. With communication globally so easy these days word spreads. They are starting to lose some of their control. They spend more and more time on damage control than on teaching.
The WTS leaders have had "their day" during those years when their increase was dependent on the lack of information pertaining to their predictions, prophecies and dead wrong teachings. Since the advent of the information highway....folks are able to verify the decades of pure nonsense the WTS has been offering up as "accurate knowledge" that has proven to be anything but accurate.

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#12 Jan 5, 2013
Nedoba wrote:
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The WTS leaders have had "their day" during those years when their increase was dependent on the lack of information pertaining to their predictions, prophecies and dead wrong teachings. Since the advent of the information highway....folks are able to verify the decades of pure nonsense the WTS has been offering up as "accurate knowledge" that has proven to be anything but accurate.
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. This is where their copious words will strangle them.. And people will begin to reflect on the words..( We are the only ones that have the TRUTH) As the fact is the Internet..is speeding things up...QUITE considerably.. That is something the WTS.. didn't consider when they started making things available on it... That.. can of worms.. apparently didn't cross their mind..
eagleeye

Overland Park, KS

#13 Jan 5, 2013
And it doesn't take long for them to appear-- those who would lull you to sleep and tell you to pay no mind to the sign or to the ones proclaiming the warning about the time of the end and the good news of God's Kingdom.

Listen to Jesus, not the anti-Christ naysayers.

(Matthew 24:13-14)

13 But he that has endured to the end is the one that will be saved.

14 And this good news of the kingdom will be preached in all the inhabited earth for a witness to all the nations; and then the end will come.

***

(Matthew 24:42-47)

42 Keep on the watch, therefore, because YOU do not know on what day YOUR Lord is coming.

43 “But know one thing, that if the householder had known in what watch the thief was coming, he would have kept awake and not allowed his house to be broken into.

44 On this account YOU too prove yourselves ready, because at an hour that YOU do not think to be it, the Son of man is coming.

45 “Who really is the faithful and discreet slave whom his master appointed over his domestics, to give them their food at the proper time? 46 Happy is that slave if his master on arriving finds him doing so. 47 Truly I say to YOU, He will appoint him over all his belongings.

***

(Matthew 25:13) 13 “Keep on the watch, therefore, because YOU know neither the day nor the hour.

***

(Mark 13:35-37)

35 Therefore keep on the watch, for YOU do not know when the master of the house is coming, whether late in the day or at midnight or at cockcrowing or early in the morning;

36 in order that when he arrives suddenly, he does not find YOU sleeping.

37 But what I say to YOU I say to all, Keep on the watch.”

“BIBLE TRUTHS *NEVER* CHANGE”

Since: Aug 09

LET GO AND LET GOD

#14 Jan 5, 2013
The Creator of all things is responsible for the existence of everything, a part of the Creator's spirit exists in everything and thus all things are connected."----- Larry P. Aitken, CHIPPEWA Nation

I firmly believe that it is our duty and our great privilege, to pray to our Great Creator, the Father of ALL mankind.... to always seek to establish harmony between our fellow man and the earth, so that this earth will bloom, flourish and thrive once more. Let us show our love and goodwill for ALL living things that share this planet.

"TRUTH," by definition, cannot have errors. If there is room for error, it is not truth. It is just...an opinion or conjecture.

Gal 5:22....But the spiritual nature produces love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness.....
Na Na Boo Boo

Woodruff, WI

#15 Jan 5, 2013
Nedoba wrote:
The Creator of all things is responsible for the existence of everything, a part of the Creator's spirit exists in everything and thus all things are connected."----- Larry P. Aitken, CHIPPEWA Nation
I firmly believe that it is our duty and our great privilege, to pray to our Great Creator, the Father of ALL mankind.... to always seek to establish harmony between our fellow man and the earth, so that this earth will bloom, flourish and thrive once more. Let us show our love and goodwill for ALL living things that share this planet.
"TRUTH," by definition, cannot have errors. If there is room for error, it is not truth. It is just...an opinion or conjecture.
Gal 5:22....But the spiritual nature produces love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness.....
Give me a "HIGH FIVE"!
This posting is sooooo correct..
Thanx for posting such Truths, its such a breath of fresh air to FINALLY have someone who posts truths and NOT JW"S Falsified DOGMA.

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#16 Jan 5, 2013
eagleeye wrote:
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We have been on the watch and awake from the beginning of the time of the end, and we will be awake and on the watch when the end comes, as it absolutely WILL.
When someone is on the watch, there are usually any number of false starts, but just as a pregnant woman WILL have a baby, no matter how many false alarms, the end of this system WILL COME, and we will be ready, thanks to our watchful faithful and discreet slave.
The sign is unmistakable, and Jehovah and Jesus have promised that the end will come when the preaching of the good news of God's Kingdom is done. Anyone who lets others lull them to sleep and inattentiveness will be caught unprepared.
ihv the wt can make all the excuses they want they are still false prophets..

lets remember ONE THING.. those dates of the end are supposed to have come directly from god

the fact is that the wt claimed that GOD GAVE THEM THE INTERPRETATION OF PROPHECY IN THE BIBLE..

do you realize what that means? it means they had an even higher level of understanding than the prophets of old... they claim god gave them the interpretation and to that they set dates THAT UTTERLY FAILED..

thats what false prophets do dont they? jw fall for this bull every day becaue they have not read or studied the bible and the material the wt published with lies and deciet..

THE WT IS A FALSE PROPHET ORGANIZATION and a warning here.. if one of you went out and promotted 75, YOU ARE A FALSE PROPHET TOO.

and now a verse for the readers:
Mt 25:13 Watch therefore, for ye know neither the day nor the hour wherein the Son of man cometh.

quit following wt lies
will
will

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#17 Jan 5, 2013
eagleeye wrote:
<quoted text>
We have been on the watch and awake from the beginning of the time of the end, and we will be awake and on the watch when the end comes, as it absolutely WILL.
When someone is on the watch, there are usually any number of false starts, but just as a pregnant woman WILL have a baby, no matter how many false alarms, the end of this system WILL COME, and we will be ready, thanks to our watchful faithful and discreet slave.
The sign is unmistakable, and Jehovah and Jesus have promised that the end will come when the preaching of the good news of God's Kingdom is done. Anyone who lets others lull them to sleep and inattentiveness will be caught unprepared.
ihv here is some facts.. the wt is a false prophet..

they claimed that GOD gave them alone the interpretation of the prophecies in the bible and with that set dates .. THOSE FAILED

make no mistake.. they can make the excuses but they cant hide..

the have claimed a higher level of understanding than the ot prophets.. those prophets made prophecies and had no idea of what the fulfillment would be.. the wt claims to know and set up dates based on this.. THEY FAILED..

will

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#18 Jan 5, 2013
eagleeye wrote:
And it doesn't take long for them to appear-- those who would lull you to sleep and tell you to pay no mind to the sign or to the ones proclaiming the warning about the time of the end and the good news of God's Kingdom.
Listen to Jesus, not the anti-Christ naysayers.
ihv listen to JESUS? the wt wont let you do that.. they have changed the gospel.. let me remind readers:
Ga 1:8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.

this is so important paul mentioned it again..

so what gospel is paul speaking of? is the gospel the word of god that saves? yet the wt says:
12/15/71 Watchtower
[pp.753*]"Now, after all the intervening years, we have the proof more than ever before that God enthroned his Son Jesus Christ ....in the year 1914,"

PAUL DIDNT PREACH THIS 1914 CRAP.. only the wt... if you preached that false gospel paul says you are accursed.. BUT THERE IS TIME TO REPENT
WILL
[pp. 754*]"We, for our part, are approaching the portals of the righteous new order earth wide as promised by Jehovah....This is the only good news on earth today. It is the Gospel. It is the Evangelic.
(Matthew 24:13-14)
13 But he that has endured to the end is the one that will be saved.
14 And this good news of the kingdom will be preached in all the inhabited earth for a witness to all the nations; and then the end will come.
***
(Matthew 24:42-47)
42 Keep on the watch, therefore, because YOU do not know on what day YOUR Lord is coming.
43 “But know one thing, that if the householder had known in what watch the thief was coming, he would have kept awake and not allowed his house to be broken into.
44 On this account YOU too prove yourselves ready, because at an hour that YOU do not think to be it, the Son of man is coming.
45 “Who really is the faithful and discreet slave whom his master appointed over his domestics, to give them their food at the proper time? 46 Happy is that slave if his master on arriving finds him doing so. 47 Truly I say to YOU, He will appoint him over all his belongings.
***
(Matthew 25:13) 13 “Keep on the watch, therefore, because YOU know neither the day nor the hour.
***
(Mark 13:35-37)
35 Therefore keep on the watch, for YOU do not know when the master of the house is coming, whether late in the day or at midnight or at cockcrowing or early in the morning;
36 in order that when he arrives suddenly, he does not find YOU sleeping.
37 But what I say to YOU I say to all, Keep on the watch.”
ihv leet me say most of these verses used by the wt are taken totally out of context..

“BIBLE TRUTHS *NEVER* CHANGE”

Since: Aug 09

LET GO AND LET GOD

#19 Jan 5, 2013
Na Na Boo Boo wrote:
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Give me a "HIGH FIVE"!
This posting is sooooo correct..
Thanx for posting such Truths, its such a breath of fresh air to FINALLY have someone who posts truths and NOT JW"S Falsified DOGMA.
High five being returned!

The more people that are seeking to establish peace and harmony on this earth today....are those who do agree with the need to pray for His kingdom to come and for His will to be done on the earth.

Those who still harbor that "we are better than everyone else" attitude....certainly cannot be counted among those who truly WANT peace among all others.

Every generous act of giving and every perfect gift is from above and comes down from the Father who made the heavenly lights, in whom there is no inconsistency or shifting shadow.....James 1:17 ISV

What form of religion is best known for a history of teaching inconsistencies and shifting shadows?

Whether you want to call Him God, the Father, the Great Spirit, YHWH, whatever...this energy....HIS energy....is in all living things. Therefore, everything is sacred because HE is IN everything. Think about it......Wisdom of the Native Elders

Go forth in peace...be still within yourself and know that the trail is beautiful. May the winds be gentle upon your face and your direction be straight and true as the flight of an eagle. Walk in beauty and in harmony with God...and with all people..........Navajo blessing
Jws Exposed

Woodruff, WI

#20 Jan 5, 2013
Nedoba wrote:
<quoted text>
High five being returned!
The more people that are seeking to establish peace and harmony on this earth today....are those who do agree with the need to pray for His kingdom to come and for His will to be done on the earth.
Those who still harbor that "we are better than everyone else" attitude....certainly cannot be counted among those who truly WANT peace among all others.
Every generous act of giving and every perfect gift is from above and comes down from the Father who made the heavenly lights, in whom there is no inconsistency or shifting shadow.....James 1:17 ISV
What form of religion is best known for a history of teaching inconsistencies and shifting shadows?
Whether you want to call Him God, the Father, the Great Spirit, YHWH, whatever...this energy....HIS energy....is in all living things. Therefore, everything is sacred because HE is IN everything. Think about it......Wisdom of the Native Elders
Go forth in peace...be still within yourself and know that the trail is beautiful. May the winds be gentle upon your face and your direction be straight and true as the flight of an eagle. Walk in beauty and in harmony with God...and with all people..........Navajo blessing
Awwwwww Thank-you dear sweet Lady...
What a beautiful blessing..

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