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#283 Jul 7, 2012
Kathleen Conti wrote:
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The court transcripts are being sent to someone we know who can can then get them out for all to see "actual trial testimony" then I would love to hear what certain ones on this site will have to say!!
I do not know any of you and am not going by anything but the available court documents and depositions.

In the depositions, Candace said that she went home alone with Kendrick virtually every week after the Sunday meeting and that she sat on his lap often at the meeting. Neal and yourself said you didn't allow her to go home alone with him after the Sunday meeting nor sit in his lap. I'm sure you will agree the testimonies are contradictory and we are all just trying to understand why there is such contradictions in the testimonies.

We also know from our experience with JWs that 9 or 10 year old girls hardly if ever sit in the lap of their own father at the meetings much less some older man they are not related to and that 9 or 10 year old girls never go home alone with a 40 or 50 year old man they are not related to especially virtually every Sunday.

Are the depositions that we are reading fakes?

Thank you in advance for your reply.
TPMP

United States

#284 Jul 7, 2012
Thirdwitness wrote:
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I do not know any of you and am not going by anything but the available court documents and depositions.
In the depositions, Candace said that she went home alone with Kendrick virtually every week after the Sunday meeting and that she sat on his lap often at the meeting. Neal and yourself said you didn't allow her to go home alone with him after the Sunday meeting nor sit in his lap. I'm sure you will agree the testimonies are contradictory and we are all just trying to understand why there is such contradictions in the testimonies.
We also know from our experience with JWs that 9 or 10 year old girls hardly if ever sit in the lap of their own father at the meetings much less some older man they are not related to and that 9 or 10 year old girls never go home alone with a 40 or 50 year old man they are not related to especially virtually every Sunday.
Are the depositions that we are reading fakes?
Thank you in advance for your reply.
Excellent question.
Persecuted Ones

London, Canada

#285 Jul 7, 2012
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#286 Jul 7, 2012
Kathleen Conti wrote:
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It hurts so much to read what some are saying about Candace. I was abused by an Elder in a Southern California Congregation his name is Dave Woods and he abused 3 other young girls from the same KH. I had stopped attending meetings for over a year at Fremont North due to the fact I was in serious therapy for my own abuse and would get anxiety attacks at just the thought of going to meetings. It was during this time that my own daughtor was being abused by Kindrick. Neal Conti her father was taking her to meetings I was not even there, Neal lied in court and sided with the organizations attorneys even though he knew back in 2003 that she had been abused because he took her to lunch only because he wanted to ask her if Kendrick had abused her. Many in that Hall knew by then that Kendrick had most likley got to Candace not just the Elders (but they said nothing) Why, because Candace was no longer in the truth and it made it easy to sweep it under the carpet. Neal once told Candace that the Organization would be more willing to help if she was a witness. He is just like them and has hurt her so much.
I want to thank all you who have defended Candace against the evil and hurtful lies being spewed forth in these posts. You are the ones who know what the real truth is most likly because you have all lived this night mare in one way or the other. I love you all.
I'm sorry to hear about what you had to endure as well as what your daughter went through. She is a brave young woman and she is doing much to shine a light on what really goes on within the JW organization, and the JWs don't like that at all.

You would think, wouldn't you, that they would be aghast at what the Society has tried to do rather than trying to vilify the victims?
The Truth

Virginia Beach, VA

#287 Jul 7, 2012
The Truth is that Watchtower policy runs counter to the example Jesus Christ set.

He opposed the moral legalism of the scribes and pharisees who violated the principles of the Mosaic law through their clever manipulations.

Counter to his example, the Watchtower strains out the gnat of unbiblical clergy confidentiality -all legal cases in the OT were done in public, not in closed room sessions, and gulps down the camel with regard to the principle of protecting the innocent.

Jesus most assuredly will say to them in the end "Get away from me, I never knew you, you workers of lawlessness!".

Since: Oct 10

Homebush, Australia

#288 Jul 7, 2012
Kathleen Conti wrote:
<quoted text>
It hurts so much to read what some are saying about Candace. I was abused by an Elder in a Southern California Congregation his name is Dave Woods and he abused 3 other young girls from the same KH. I had stopped attending meetings for over a year at Fremont North due to the fact I was in serious therapy for my own abuse and would get anxiety attacks at just the thought of going to meetings. It was during this time that my own daughtor was being abused by Kindrick. Neal Conti her father was taking her to meetings I was not even there, Neal lied in court and sided with the organizations attorneys even though he knew back in 2003 that she had been abused because he took her to lunch only because he wanted to ask her if Kendrick had abused her. Many in that Hall knew by then that Kendrick had most likley got to Candace not just the Elders (but they said nothing) Why, because Candace was no longer in the truth and it made it easy to sweep it under the carpet. Neal once told Candace that the Organization would be more willing to help if she was a witness. He is just like them and has hurt her so much.
I want to thank all you who have defended Candace against the evil and hurtful lies being spewed forth in these posts. You are the ones who know what the real truth is most likly because you have all lived this night mare in one way or the other. I love you all.
I realise this must be a very difficult time for both of you. We have had the same problems in a few congregations here, when one considers that JW are a very small group in comparison to most other major denominations, to find so many pedophiles in KH around the globe is alarming indeed. I believe it is because of the lack of decent policy in protecting children that the KH became a place for pedophiles to thrive, not only doing the crime once but many times and to more victims.

Hopefully because of your daughters brave stand this will change for the better, but I really do hope that the WT/GB has the integrity and love of righteousness to apologies to the victims, as many have also been stumbled and lost their faith.

I hope others have the courage to come forward, this would be very very hard especially if they are still attending meetings or active, you husbands attitude is typical of most JW, but believe me when I tell you that their are some honest and upright JW that will be disgusted with all of this, and will not side with the organzition. I believe that the organization is being told, enough is enough, stand by and see the Jehovahs hand, and they will have to know he is Jehovah.

Thank you both for your courage.
TPMP

Brooklyn, NY

#289 Jul 7, 2012
Gee....Did we just witness a "clever ploy" by a certain unamed poster who is partial to Ms Conti to get folks over to the JWN site?.

This poster has been tryig to get people over there for the longest.
Kathleen Conti

Stockton, CA

#290 Jul 7, 2012
array wrote:
<quoted text>I realise this must be a very difficult time for both of you. We have had the same problems in a few congregations here, when one considers that JW are a very small group in comparison to most other major denominations, to find so many pedophiles in KH around the globe is alarming indeed. I believe it is because of the lack of decent policy in protecting children that the KH became a place for pedophiles to thrive, not only doing the crime once but many times and to more victims.
Hopefully because of your daughters brave stand this will change for the better, but I really do hope that the WT/GB has the integrity and love of righteousness to apologies to the victims, as many have also been stumbled and lost their faith.
I hope others have the courage to come forward, this would be very very hard especially if they are still attending meetings or active, you husbands attitude is typical of most JW, but believe me when I tell you that their are some honest and upright JW that will be disgusted with all of this, and will not side with the organzition. I believe that the organization is being told, enough is enough, stand by and see the Jehovahs hand, and they will have to know he is Jehovah.
Thank you both for your courage.
I hope you are right. That's why we would not take their money even though they tried... We wan't the abuse to stop, no more victims. Please

Since: Apr 09

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#291 Jul 7, 2012
I am so sorry for what you and your daughter had to endure. It is time something is done about the abuse. They jump on the Catholics fast enough and believe anything that is said.

We had a case of sexual abuse in the congregation I used to attend and it went on for years, even though the elders knew something about it. It wasn't until the step daughter stepped forward and made it public that something was finally done. This was almost a twenty year span.

If the elders or WT constantly hide what is going on it is like giving the abuser a free pass to whatever they please.
Kathleen Conti

Stockton, CA

#292 Jul 7, 2012
emmaswish wrote:
I am so sorry for what you and your daughter had to endure. It is time something is done about the abuse. They jump on the Catholics fast enough and believe anything that is said.
We had a case of sexual abuse in the congregation I used to attend and it went on for years, even though the elders knew something about it. It wasn't until the step daughter stepped forward and made it public that something was finally done. This was almost a twenty year span.
If the elders or WT constantly hide what is going on it is like giving the abuser a free pass to whatever they please.
Well said ... You are right.
Hoodwinked

Murrieta, CA

#293 Jul 7, 2012
Kathleen Conti wrote:
<quoted text>
It hurts so much to read what some are saying about Candace. I was abused by an Elder in a Southern California Congregation his name is Dave Woods and he abused 3 other young girls from the same KH. I had stopped attending meetings for over a year at Fremont North due to the fact I was in serious therapy for my own abuse and would get anxiety attacks at just the thought of going to meetings. It was during this time that my own daughtor was being abused by Kindrick. Neal Conti her father was taking her to meetings I was not even there, Neal lied in court and sided with the organizations attorneys even though he knew back in 2003 that she had been abused because he took her to lunch only because he wanted to ask her if Kendrick had abused her. Many in that Hall knew by then that Kendrick had most likley got to Candace not just the Elders (but they said nothing) Why, because Candace was no longer in the truth and it made it easy to sweep it under the carpet. Neal once told Candace that the Organization would be more willing to help if she was a witness. He is just like them and has hurt her so much.
I want to thank all you who have defended Candace against the evil and hurtful lies being spewed forth in these posts. You are the ones who know what the real truth is most likly because you have all lived this night mare in one way or the other. I love you all.
We have lived a very similar experience and I completely believe what you are saying because we have seen it firsthand. I pray that along with the verdict came some peace of mind not only for your brave daughter but for you as well :)
Hoodwinked

Murrieta, CA

#294 Jul 7, 2012
Kathleen Conti wrote:
<quoted text>
The court transcripts are being sent to someone we know who can can then get them out for all to see "actual trial testimony" then I would love to hear what certain ones on this site will have to say!!
Great to hear.
Thank you and beautiful daughter:) You are helping so many!!
Hoodwinked

Murrieta, CA

#295 Jul 7, 2012
Kathleen Conti wrote:
<quoted text>
I hope you are right. That's why we would not take their money even though they tried... We wan't the abuse to stop, no more victims. Please
Good for you.
hMMMMM

Farmington, UT

#296 Jul 8, 2012
Kathleen Conti wrote:
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I hope you are right. That's why we would not take their money even though they tried... We wan't the abuse to stop, no more victims. Please
Well thank you for proving jehovah's witnesses are liars.
DWAlice lied when she started this thread, because Candace's decent parent DOES support Candace's experiences of being raped by a jehovah's witness minister, and that being aided by the elders and the WBTS itself.
Thank you also Mrs. Conti for supporting the fact that jehovah's witness children have very high rates of being sexually abused, as you yourself were as a child.
Candace and you are showing great courage by speaking up against this very wealthy and powerful corporation.
They have millions to harass you with, and what you have is the TRUTH.
And the truth is that there is a deliberate process where the WBTS harbors and protects jehovah's witness minister and elder pedophiles, while grooming children to be victims instead of teaching them skills to resist JEHOVAH'S WITNESS MINISTER PEDOPHILES, then protecting the jehovah's witness minister or elder, pedophile and isolating, mocking and further abusing the innocent children of JW members.

All children of mentally/emotionally troubled jehovah's witness parents, sleep a litter safer tonight because of your daughter.
Bravo Candace Conti!
hMMMMM

Farmington, UT

#297 Jul 8, 2012
emmaswish wrote:
I am so sorry for what you and your daughter had to endure. It is time something is done about the abuse. They jump on the Catholics fast enough and believe anything that is said.
We had a case of sexual abuse in the congregation I used to attend and it went on for years, even though the elders knew something about it. It wasn't until the step daughter stepped forward and made it public that something was finally done. This was almost a twenty year span.
If the elders or WT constantly hide what is going on it is like giving the abuser a free pass to whatever they please.
That is how cults work, and why children of all cults have high rates of sexual abuse.
When the sexual abuse by Priests in the Catholic Church came to light, parishioners were up in arms, demanding change and supporting victims.
When the sexual abuse of children by elders or other jehovah's witness ministers comes to light, jehovah's witnesses, even those with young children, mock the child victims and support their "charismatic leaders, the WBTs or governing body", who tell them to support the adult male jehovah's witness pedophile, because HE is their "brother"
That is one glaring difference between a religion and a cult.
They are very different.

“BIBLE TRUTHS *NEVER* CHANGE”

Since: Aug 09

LET GO AND LET GOD

#298 Jul 8, 2012
Kathleen Conti wrote:
<quoted text>
The court transcripts are being sent to someone we know who can can then get them out for all to see "actual trial testimony" then I would love to hear what certain ones on this site will have to say!!
This is most encouraging to learn!

There is not much more to add to my friend's comments that more than applaud your daughter's courage to stand up and shout for not only WHAT is just and fair treatment to molestation victims, but for bringing the WTS horrendous atrocity to the public's attention. It makes me cringe when this evil organization labels ITSELF as a "spiritual paradise" while harboring criminals and criminal activities.

I truly wish there was more I could do other than to offer my love and support to your daughter's efforts as the sordid details unfolded before us all....and I am happy to have had the opportunity to be able to tell you how very proud so many of us are for learning of her strength and her undaunting courage.

I wish you both much peace~

“the truth will set you free...”

Since: Nov 10

Atlanta, GA

#301 Jul 8, 2012
Kathleen Conti wrote:
<quoted text>The court transcripts are being sent to someone we know who can can then get them out for all to see "actual trial testimony" then I would love to hear what certain ones on this site will have to say!!
I have the court documents. Why do you need the transcripts sent to "someone we know?"

If you are "Kathleen Conti" you should know what you said.

Q. Did you report that molestation?
A. It happened to three girls and myself, and; the other two girls told the father.

Q. Was the perpetrator prosecuted criminally?.
A. No, he was an elder.

Q. In what congregation?
A. I don 't know what congregation that he went to.

Q. Was he disfellowshipped?
A. No.

Q. Did the elders ever talk to you about that?
A. No, it was kept quiet.

Q. This took place when you were age 13?
A. Uh-huh.

Q. What was the name of the perpetrator?
A. Dave Wood.

Q. Is he still alive?
A. Yes.

Q. Do you know the names of the other two girls?
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Everything beyond this point has been completely removed from public records including the names of the other two girls.

"Do you know the names of the other two girls?"

Your response could have very well been, "I don't remember thier names."

If they came forward, they'd want their testimony to be relevant and the truth be told. According to public records it wasn't an “elder,” it was an elder's son.

Step one, is naming the other two girls.

Step two, is acquiring an official statement from them to back your claim. Otherwise, it's unsubstantiated hearsay.

Your daughter's testimony sharply conflicts with your own. Any honest person should question the validity of your statements.

Since: Oct 10

Homebush, Australia

#302 Jul 8, 2012
Dream-weaver wrote:
<quoted text>
I have the court documents. Why do you need the transcripts sent to "someone we know?"
If you are "Kathleen Conti" you should know what you said.
Q. Did you report that molestation?
A. It happened to three girls and myself, and; the other two girls told the father.
Q. Was the perpetrator prosecuted criminally?.
A. No, he was an elder.
Q. In what congregation?
A. I don 't know what congregation that he went to.
Q. Was he disfellowshipped?
A. No.
Q. Did the elders ever talk to you about that?
A. No, it was kept quiet.
Q. This took place when you were age 13?
A. Uh-huh.
Q. What was the name of the perpetrator?
A. Dave Wood.
Q. Is he still alive?
A. Yes.
Q. Do you know the names of the other two girls?
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Everything beyond this point has been completely removed from public records including the names of the other two girls.
"Do you know the names of the other two girls?"
Your response could have very well been, "I don't remember thier names."
If they came forward, they'd want their testimony to be relevant and the truth be told. According to public records it wasn't an “elder,” it was an elder's son.
Step one, is naming the other two girls.
Step two, is acquiring an official statement from them to back your claim. Otherwise, it's unsubstantiated hearsay.
Your daughter's testimony sharply conflicts with your own. Any honest person should question the validity of your statements.
why don't you leave the victim alone, you seem to be in far more know in your brain than the judge and jury that saw through the WT frail policies that did not help to protect the sheep.

“Bustin' Myths”

Since: Dec 09

Location hidden

#303 Jul 8, 2012
Dream-weaver wrote:
<quoted text>
I have the court documents. Why do you need the transcripts sent to "someone we know?"
If you are "Kathleen Conti" you should know what you said.
Q. Did you report that molestation?
A. It happened to three girls and myself, and; the other two girls told the father.
Q. Was the perpetrator prosecuted criminally?.
A. No, he was an elder.
Q. In what congregation?
A. I don 't know what congregation that he went to.
Q. Was he disfellowshipped?
A. No.
Q. Did the elders ever talk to you about that?
A. No, it was kept quiet.
Q. This took place when you were age 13?
A. Uh-huh.
Q. What was the name of the perpetrator?
A. Dave Wood.
Q. Is he still alive?
A. Yes.
Q. Do you know the names of the other two girls?
----------
Everything beyond this point has been completely removed from public records including the names of the other two girls.
"Do you know the names of the other two girls?"
Your response could have very well been, "I don't remember thier names."
If they came forward, they'd want their testimony to be relevant and the truth be told. According to public records it wasn't an “elder,” it was an elder's son.
Step one, is naming the other two girls.
Step two, is acquiring an official statement from them to back your claim. Otherwise, it's unsubstantiated hearsay.
Your daughter's testimony sharply conflicts with your own. Any honest person should question the validity of your statements.
It is time for you to stop rubbing salt in the victim's wounds.

You are mad that they lost and no amount of "offering proof" that you think you have interpreted better than the legal PROFESSIONALS in this case will change that.

Get yourself back to the kingdom hall and wait on jehovah and watch as he reveals the evil within his own organization by allowing this judgment to stand.

Since: Jul 10

Location hidden

#304 Jul 8, 2012
The problem is the WTS gods ... Have been hung in the balance and found wanting.. Our Creator ..on the other hand.. Has been left out of the Senario..all together.. in the quest to exonerate the WTS..

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