The Great Day of Jehovah is Near

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#895 Nov 19, 2012
Aneirin wrote:
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So you are saying that "ihsou" is the name by which we are saved and not "Jesus"?
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Its not a wild guess, it is a chosen way to pronounce the name of God that appears in the Bible. God does not care haw we choose to pronounce his name, only that we use it.
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Of course I would. No linguist agrees with you. It is childish and stupid to quibble over how to pronounce and write God's name in Modern English. I will always argue against this kind of brainless stupidity.
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Jehovah's name is above Jesus Christ's name but Jesus Christ's name is above all others.
But if your sill QUACK theory of language was true the name YOU would say was above any other would not be Jesus it would be "ihsou".
So when are you going to stop using "Jesus"?
Aneirin, go back and read your comment and notice how many times you called me stupid,and other derogatory comments. Why do you have to do this?

Why not call God YAHWEH?

NO, I will not stop using the name Jesus, just as I have not stopped using the name Jehovah. Why all the trouble over a name when it matters not what name we call him, but that we CALL on him.

As for my proof of the fact that some bibles that are much older than the NWT used the words Lord, God, Elohim, Adonai, etc, is to prove to you that Your Bible has twisted scripture. I am not saying by using the name Jehovah, but the whole scripture itself. Your leaders do this quite often in Gods Holy Word, and we know what the bible says about those who do that. I will not argue with you over this because all it takes to understand it, and see it for yourself is a little research and open heart and eyes. These men who call themselves your Governing Body have been lying to you for years, and you still allow them to keep doing it without a word. They have done things behind your back that were wrong, and yet you keep your eyes closed to it and accept their word that its not what it really is. Jesus warned us of this type of men in the bible and the GB points to every one else but themselves as this type of men.Please, open your eyes, and your heart and find the truth of the bible by reading it without help from the GB, but with the help of the Holy Spirit.
Predictoress

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#896 Nov 19, 2012
Still all mierda. Mucho mierda!

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#898 Nov 19, 2012
The Real Karen wrote:
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Aneirin, go back and read your comment and notice how many times you called me stupid,and other derogatory comments. Why do you have to do this?
Why not call God YAHWEH?
NO, I will not stop using the name Jesus, just as I have not stopped using the name Jehovah. Why all the trouble over a name when it matters not what name we call him, but that we CALL on him.
As for my proof of the fact that some bibles that are much older than the NWT used the words Lord, God, Elohim, Adonai, etc, is to prove to you that Your Bible has twisted scripture. I am not saying by using the name Jehovah, but the whole scripture itself. Your leaders do this quite often in Gods Holy Word, and we know what the bible says about those who do that. I will not argue with you over this because all it takes to understand it, and see it for yourself is a little research and open heart and eyes. These men who call themselves your Governing Body have been lying to you for years, and you still allow them to keep doing it without a word. They have done things behind your back that were wrong, and yet you keep your eyes closed to it and accept their word that its not what it really is. Jesus warned us of this type of men in the bible and the GB points to every one else but themselves as this type of men.Please, open your eyes, and your heart and find the truth of the bible by reading it without help from the GB, but with the help of the Holy Spirit.
Why don't you just stop acting the fool over the pronunciation of the name Jehovah, since you don't care at all about how Jesus should be pronounced.

You are happy with the common way of pronouncing Jesus' name.

What do you think makes you raise such a stink and waste so much time protesting the name Jehovah?

I know and you do too. I predicted it would happen to you, and it is happening.

“Paradise Earth”

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#899 Nov 19, 2012
The Real Karen wrote:
NO, I will not stop using the name Jesus, just as I have not stopped using the name Jehovah.
But you said that "Jehovah" was not God's name. Then you said it was a "wild guess. Changed your mind already?

I mean is "Jehovah" God's name or not? Make your mind up please.

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#900 Nov 19, 2012
The Real Karen wrote:
Why not call God YAHWEH?
Why not indeed? I am HAPPY for you to do so.

But why can't you see that there is a war on? Why can't you see that Satan is trying to hide God's name by convincing people to stop using it with a slew of pathetic excuses?

You need to decide what side of this war are you on!

Are you on the side that promotes God's name? Or are you on the side that want to bury God's name?

“BIBLE TRUTHS *NEVER* CHANGE”

Since: Aug 09

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#901 Nov 19, 2012
Aneirin wrote:
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The Greatest Man Who Ever Lived
http://download.jw.org/files/media_books/gt_E...
"Come be my follower"
http://www.jw-media.org/rus/publications/cf_e...
Learn From the Great Teacher
http://download.jw.org/files/media_books/lr_E...
"And furthermore, my son, be admonished: of making many books there is no end; and much study is a weariness of the flesh." Ecc 12:12

There is not a ONE of us who NEEDS to rely on endless mountains of any "WTS publications" to help us to continue on to "readjust our thinking" on whatever your plainly self-exalting Governing Body CURRENTLY DEEMS to tell us what "God (now) requires".

Truthful and committed worshipers of the Creator of the universe, YHWH.....rely on the SOLID, TRUE, TESTED and LONGSTANDING TEACHINGS......showing that He still requires and He still teaches US.....the same principles based on LOVE of His children..... just as He did when He first made these known to mankind under the New Covenant.

Do we find HIS regulations, rules, requirements, laws and edicts demanding what to wear (dress clothes when a convention is over for the day, must wear ID badge)....

what NOT to wear (nothing made from denim, no pantsuits or slacks for women, no perfume or aftershave, no dangly bracelets)

or what NOT to do (don't leave the convention arena at the lunch break, no chewing gum, no breath mints etc at meetings)....

and who you are allowed to talk to (imagine any GB follower walking up to a DFed person at a meeting....sitting down next to them, shaking hands or hugging them and asking how they were doing?

Then proceed to explain that you are having a small dinner party the next evening and would like to extend an invitation to them....etc.) Now, honestly....WHAT do you think would happen to that JW?

Does the Creator issue strict orders on any of these previous subjects and expect these to be stringently followed to the letter.....or is it the CONTROLLING GB that does all this "issuing of orders" in their WTS-written and approved talks and publications?

"Then we will no longer be little children, tossed and carried about by all kinds of teachings that change like the wind.

We will no longer be influenced by people who use cunning and clever strategies to lead us astray". Eph 4:14
dee lightful

Piedmont, SC

#902 Nov 19, 2012
Aneirin wrote:
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Why not indeed? I am HAPPY for you to do so.
But why can't you see that there is a war on? Why can't you see that Satan is trying to hide God's name by convincing people to stop using it with a slew of pathetic excuses?
You need to decide what side of this war are you on!
Are you on the side that promotes God's name? Or are you on the side that want to bury God's name?
Indeed Satan is trying to say a false name for God is okay to use just because man is familiar with that made up name.Gods' name was buried a long time ago because the Jews didn't use the name nor record the name.
If God wanted his name preserved he would have done that ( see The Divine Name p. 7) but he didn't because it is not his name that should be preached.
Your war is with your own organization, Gareth.

“Paradise Earth”

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#903 Nov 19, 2012
dee lightful wrote:
Indeed Satan is trying to say a false name for God is okay to use just because man is familiar with that made up name.Gods' name was buried a long time ago because the Jews didn't use the name nor record the name.
If God wanted his name preserved he would have done that ( see The Divine Name p. 7) but he didn't because it is not his name that should be preached.
If "Jehovah" is a false name for God, then "Jesus" is a false name for the Son of God.

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#904 Nov 19, 2012
Aneirin wrote:
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If "Jehovah" is a false name for God, then "Jesus" is a false name for the Son of God.
.. yup! probably is.. But hay..guess it doesn't matter..as you've bypassed Christ ..and only pay him lip service.

“By grace you have been saved”

Since: May 09

Sheffield, UK

#905 Nov 19, 2012
Aneirin wrote:
In Acts 15, 16 Jacob of the governing body in Jerusalem tells us that the Amos scripture applies to the Christian congregation.
"Repent, and let every one of you be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins." -- Acts 2:38

"Let it be known to you all, and to all the people of Israel, that by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom you crucified, whom God raised from the dead ..... there is salvation in no other, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved." -- Acts 4:10-12

"Therefore God exalted him to the highest place and gave him the name that is above every name." -- Philippians 2:9

"To the church of God which is at Corinth, to those who are sanctified in Christ Jesus, called to be saints, with all who in every place call on the name of Jesus Christ our Lord." -- 1 Corinthians 1:2

"And it was first in Antioch that the disciples were by divine providence called Christians." -- Acts 11:26 NWT

Jehovah has given His name to His only-begotten Son. The name Jesus means Jehovah is Salvation.

The Holy Spirit declares that we are to be named after Jesus Christ, the name above all names, that is why we are proud to be called Christians.

The name "Jehovah's Witnesses" was actually given to the nation of Israel. You guys have pinched it.

"You are my witnesses,” is the utterance of Jehovah,“even my servant whom I have chosen." -- Isaiah 43:10
dee lightful

Piedmont, SC

#906 Nov 19, 2012
Aneirin wrote:
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If "Jehovah" is a false name for God, then "Jesus" is a false name for the Son of God.
I guess you are not familiar with the WT's The Divine Name p.7?
That is a straw man fallacy and has nothing to do with the known, spoken name of Jesus as opposed to an unknown, unspoken , lost name of God.

“Bustin' Myths”

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#907 Nov 19, 2012
Aneirin wrote:
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If "Jehovah" is a false name for God, then "Jesus" is a false name for the Son of God.
Hey,check it out, this guy had problems with the spelling and identification of his name too.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aneirin

Aneirin
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Aneirin or Neirin was a Dark Age Brythonic poet. He is believed to have been a bard or 'court poet' in one of the Cumbric kingdoms of the Old North or Hen Ogledd, probably that of Gododdin at Edinburgh, in modern Scotland. From the 17th century, his name was often incorrectly spelled Aneurin.

Poetry

The works attributed to Aneirin are preserved in a late-13th century manuscript known as the Book of Aneirin (or Llyfr Aneirin). The language has been partially modernized into Middle Welsh, but other portions in Old Welsh indicate that at least some of the poetry dates from around Aneirin's time, and its attribution, therefore, may well be genuine. The work would have survived through oral transmission until first written down, perhaps in the 9th century.

Aneirin's best known work is Y Gododdin, a series of elegies for the warriors of the northern Brythonic kingdom of Gododdin who, in circa 600, fell against the Angles of Deira and Bernicia at the Battle of Catraeth (probably Catterick in North Yorkshire). The poetry abounds in textual difficulties and consequently interpretations vary. One stanza contains what may possibly be the earliest reference to Arthur, as a paragon of bravery with whom one fallen warrior is compared : the identification is, however, conjectural. The poem tells us that Aneirin was present at this battle and, having been taken prisoner, was one of only four (or two) Brythonic survivors. He remained a captive until his ransom was paid by Ceneu ap Llywarch Hen.

Identity & reputation

Records of Aneirin amongst the sons of Caw, a chieftain from Strathclyde, are late and erroneous. Aneirin's mother, Dwywei, is, however, mentioned in 'Y Gododdin'. She may be the same lady who, according to Old Welsh pedigrees, married King Dunod, who is generally thought to have ruled in West Yorkshire. He was also kin to another Brythonic poet, Cian Gwenith Gwawd.

In the late 18th century attempts were made to identify Aneirin with the early 6th century writer, Gildas, based on the incorrect form of his name. Thomas Stephens later thought the poet was Gildas' son. Both ideas are now discredited.

The Welsh Triads describe Aneirin as "prince of bards" and "of flowing verse". Nennius praises him amongst the earliest Welsh poets or Cynfeirdd, a contemporary of Talhaearn, Taliesin, Bluchbardd and Cian. References to Aneirin are found in the work of the Poets of the Princes, but his fame declined in the later Middle Ages until the re-assertion of Welsh identity by antiquarian writers of the Tudor period. Today, the reputation of his poetry remains high, though the exact identity of the author is more controversial.

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#908 Nov 20, 2012
eagleeye2 wrote:
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Why don't you just stop acting the fool over the pronunciation of the name Jehovah, since you don't care at all about how Jesus should be pronounced.
You are happy with the common way of pronouncing Jesus' name.
What do you think makes you raise such a stink and waste so much time protesting the name Jehovah?
I know and you do too. I predicted it would happen to you, and it is happening.
Jesus loves you.

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#909 Nov 20, 2012
Aneirin wrote:
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But you said that "Jehovah" was not God's name. Then you said it was a "wild guess. Changed your mind already?
I mean is "Jehovah" God's name or not? Make your mind up please.
Don't act innocent in trying to twist my words Aneirin. I know that Jehovah is the English way of pronouncing his name, But you are saying that Jehovah was removed from the bible, and it WAS NOT. YHWH was and maybe if you went back and read why, maybe then you would understand why it is so sacred. Take some of this time to give this much attention to Jesus name and maybe then you can understand why your leaders lie to you about the organization being needed for your salvation, all that is needed is TRUE belief in Jesus and to call upon HIS NAME. All of this is silly, you are fighting for a name of a religion, when you should be on here telling people about how they can gain salvation through Jesus. And tell your little "friend" I love Jehovah and he Loves me, and she cant change that by anything she, or her leaders say.

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#910 Nov 20, 2012
Aneirin wrote:
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Why not indeed? I am HAPPY for you to do so.
But why can't you see that there is a war on? Why can't you see that Satan is trying to hide God's name by convincing people to stop using it with a slew of pathetic excuses?
You need to decide what side of this war are you on!
Are you on the side that promotes God's name? Or are you on the side that want to bury God's name?
Aneirin, Satan knows the name that will save us, it is Jesus. Jehovah gave him all rule over the earth and above it and below it, Satan knows that it is Jesus who is going to destroy him, that is why he and his demons tremble. I use Jehovah's names many times, and again, it is used in our church very often, going against what the GB tells you. Preachers know that Gods name in heaven is Jehovah, some use it, some do not. Mine Does.
I know what side of this war I am on, and its on the right side, the one that will be fought by Jesus Christ and his army,not by the GB and their organization.

It is the name of Jesus that the bible tells us Jehovah made above all others, and that includes the name of Jehovahs witnesses.

‘Therefore, God elevated him to the place of highest honor and gave him the name above all other names, that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow,
in heaven and on earth and under the earth.’

Philippians 2:9-10 (NLT)

Have you ever once bowed your knee to Jesus?

Even the Apostle Paul said... "I write you these things that you may know that you have life everlasting, you who put your faith in the name of the Son of God." (1John 5:13)
The name of the Son of God, not the name of his father, but the name of JESUS CHRIST.

"there is no salvation in anyone else, for there is not another name under heaven that has been given among men by which we must get saved" (Acts 4:12)

This means the name Jehovah's Witnesses will not save you, this means the name of any organization will not save you, ONLY THE NAME OF JESUS. Why cant you see that.

Jehovah, the father, has appointed his son Jesus to the superior position as God, along with all authority, power, keys of death and hades , honor, worship and name. The father has given up his authority to his son Jesus, including his name, making the name of Jesus (Yeshua) the "only name under heaven by which we must get saved."

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#911 Nov 20, 2012
I was listening to Charles Stanley this morning and he also used the word "Jehovah" for God's name as do many other preachers, religions, etc. So I think the argument that specifically the JWs are wrong in using God's name is really without merit. Its a much broader issue if you look at its usage in our culture in general.
Aneirin wrote:
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I have already dealt with this.
The people who translated that Bible have taken out God's name so it looks like "I AM" is God's name. It is a blatant rewriting of scripture.
The TRUE verse says that Jehovah (YHWH) is God's name.
Use an HONEST Bible for a change.

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#912 Nov 20, 2012
Michael2010 wrote:
I was listening to Charles Stanley this morning and he also used the word "Jehovah" for God's name as do many other preachers, religions, etc. So I think the argument that specifically the JWs are wrong in using God's name is really without merit. Its a much broader issue if you look at its usage in our culture in general.
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The Dark One has successfully convinced MANY spiritual leaders and speakers that using the name "jehovah" is the proper name for the Creator of all living things, YHWH. It isn't only the WTS followers that use it....but AFAIK, it is only the WTS followers that INSIST upon it being attached to every prayer, every piece of their erroneous literature and used like a mantra. Have you ever heard a WTS following "brother" say a prayer out loud, and say "jehovah" in every sentence OF that prayer? It is distracting and annoying....and does not impress anyone....most of all...the Hearer of prayer.

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#913 Nov 20, 2012
Agreed though for me personally, being able to address God by name does add more of an intimacy. I just don't know honestly what the alternative would be. When I was younger and growing up as a baptist, we would just refer to their titles (Lord) so it made it hard sometimes to know if they referred to Jesus or God. Just my own experience.

“John 4:23,24”

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#914 Nov 20, 2012
The Real Karen wrote:
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Jesus loves you.
Romans 12:9

New English Translation (NET)

9 Love must be without hypocrisy. Abhor what is evil, cling to what is good.

“John 4:23,24”

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#915 Nov 20, 2012
Nedoba wrote:
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? It is distracting and annoying....and does not impress anyone....most of all...the Hearer of prayer.
When did the hearer of prayer tell you that?

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