The Great Day of Jehovah is Near

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#827 Nov 15, 2012
Even when it is explained to them using their own bible..

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#828 Nov 16, 2012
Aneirin wrote:
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Your Bible has BUTCHERED those verses. They have badly translated the phrase "I AM THAT I AM" in order to wedge their theology into the text and they have REMOVED God's name from the text.
Get a proper Bible.
I am amazed you say that, on the front of my bible it says Holy Bible, what does yours say?

Here is the quote from a bible dated 1599

14 And God answered Moses, I AM THAT I AM. Also he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you.
15 And God spake further unto Moses, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, The LORD God of your fathers, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob hath sent me unto you. This is my Name forever, and this is my memorial unto all ages.

Says almost the same thing word for word, why would they change the words, what could have been their reasoning for it? Now here is your bibles same verses..

14At this God said to Moses:“I &#8203;SHALL PROVE TO BE WHAT&#8203; I &#8203;SHALL PROVE TO BE.” And he added:“This is what you are to say to the sons of Israel,‘I &#8203;SHALL PROVE TO BE&#8203; has sent me to &#8203;YOU.’”15Then God said once more to Moses:

“This is what you are to say to the sons of Israel,‘Jehovah the God of &#8203;YOUR&#8203; forefathers, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac and the God of Jacob, has sent me to &#8203;YOU.’ This is my name to time indefinite, and this is the memorial of me to generation after generation

Now tell me which ones have been rewritten, changed?
Predictoress

Middletown, NY

#829 Nov 16, 2012
People will be listening to you today, so talk while the Moon is passing through your third house of communication. Sure, the important thing is to walk the walk, but sometimes you have to sell yourself, too. Go ahead and express your views, share your experiences and listen to what others have to say. There is the key: listen to others so that when you open your mouth, you'll have a better chance of keeping your foot out of it!
frogmann

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#830 Nov 16, 2012
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frogmann

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#832 Nov 16, 2012
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you mean near sited?

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#833 Nov 16, 2012
First off the word "jehovah is blasphemous"

But the great day of the ONE true God isn't in the future. It is always now!

A Zen parable illustrates this. A Zen student was in a market and overheard a customer ask the butcher, "Give me your best piece of meat". Whereupon the butcher replied, "Every piece of meat I have is the best piece of meat!".

When the Zen student heard this he was suddenly enlightened!

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#834 Nov 17, 2012
The Real Karen wrote:
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I am amazed you say that, on the front of my bible it says Holy Bible, what does yours say?
Here is the quote from a bible dated 1599

14 And God answered Moses, I AM THAT I AM. Also he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you.
15 And God spake further unto Moses, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, The LORD God of your fathers, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob hath sent me unto you. This is my Name forever, and this is my memorial unto all ages.
Says almost the same thing word for word, why would they change the words, what could have been their reasoning for it? Now here is your bibles same verses..

14At this God said to Moses:“I SHALL PROVE TO BE WHAT I SHALL PROVE TO BE.” And he added:“This is what you are to say to the sons of Israel,‘I SHALL PROVE TO BE; has sent me to YOU.’”15Then God said once more to Moses:
“This is what you are to say to the sons of Israel,‘Jehovah the God of YOUR forefathers, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac and the God of Jacob, has sent me to.’ This is my name to time indefinite, and this is the memorial of me to generation after generation

Now tell me which ones have been rewritten, changed?
No comment Aneirin?

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#835 Nov 17, 2012
The Real Karen wrote:
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No comment Aneirin?
I have already dealt with this.

The people who translated that Bible have taken out God's name so it looks like "I AM" is God's name. It is a blatant rewriting of scripture.

The TRUE verse says that Jehovah (YHWH) is God's name.

Use an HONEST Bible for a change.

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#836 Nov 17, 2012
Aneirin wrote:
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I have already dealt with this.
The people who translated that Bible have taken out God's name so it looks like "I AM" is God's name. It is a blatant rewriting of scripture.
The TRUE verse says that Jehovah (YHWH) is God's name.
Use an HONEST Bible for a change.
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. Prove that the name was there..as you claim.. Hop to it..

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#837 Nov 17, 2012
Maravilla wrote:
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. Prove that the name was there..as you claim.. Hop to it..
Its a well known fact that no one disputes.

All you have to do is compare the scripture with a translation that did NOT remove God's name. Karen even provided one in her post.

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#839 Nov 17, 2012
Aneirin wrote:
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Its a well known fact that no one disputes.
All you have to do is compare the scripture with a translation that did NOT remove God's name. Karen even provided one in her post.
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In case you didn't notice.. that was from your NWT.. Doesn't count....

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#840 Nov 17, 2012
Maravilla wrote:
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In case you didn't notice.. that was from your NWT.. Doesn't count....
Are you really as stupid as you make out?

It is an absolute established UNCONTESTED FACT that God's name appears in the verses quoted and nearly 7,000 times elsewhere in the Bible.

Many translations have removed it. THAT'S A FACT.

It amazes me that anyone as ignorant as you of such BASIC Bible knowledge has the gall to criticise Jehpvah's Witnesses' beliefs. On a scale of zero to clueless you're a zero.
TPMP

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#841 Nov 17, 2012
Aneirin wrote:
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Are you really as stupid as you make out?
It is an absolute established UNCONTESTED FACT that God's name appears in the verses quoted and nearly 7,000 times elsewhere in the Bible.
Many translations have removed it. THAT'S A FACT.
It amazes me that anyone as ignorant as you of such BASIC Bible knowledge has the gall to criticise Jehpvah's Witnesses' beliefs. On a scale of zero to clueless you're a zero.
Isn't
that the truth?.

Yet, she says that she was raised as witness. Mind boggling.
dee lightful

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#842 Nov 17, 2012
Aneirin wrote:
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Are you really as stupid as you make out?
It is an absolute established UNCONTESTED FACT that God's name appears in the verses quoted and nearly 7,000 times elsewhere in the Bible.
Many translations have removed it. THAT'S A FACT.
It amazes me that anyone as ignorant as you of such BASIC Bible knowledge has the gall to criticise Jehpvah's Witnesses' beliefs. On a scale of zero to clueless you're a zero.
Why does the WT say,
While inclining to view the pronunciation "Yah.weh" as the more correct way, we have retained the form "Jehovah" because of people's familiarity with it since the 14th century.(The Kingdom Interlinear Translation of the Greek Scriptures, 1969, p. 23.
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It seems you are the one who is absolutely stupid. Not only does your own master say the name is not correct but also that THE NAME WAS NEVER HEARD OF BEFORE THE 14TH CENTURY.
Read it and weep for your blindness can be fatal for teaching and believing what is false, even when shown the truth.

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#843 Nov 17, 2012
Aneirin wrote:
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Are you really as stupid as you make out?
It is an absolute established UNCONTESTED FACT that God's name appears in the verses quoted and nearly 7,000 times elsewhere in the Bible.
Many translations have removed it. THAT'S A FACT.
It amazes me that anyone as ignorant as you of such BASIC Bible knowledge has the gall to criticise Jehpvah's Witnesses' beliefs. On a scale of zero to clueless you're a zero.
But that still makes no difference in man's redemption by Jesus Christ. You actually cheapen the value of Jesus' offering in our behalf by suggesting that religion, especially your religion has anything to do with it.

Religion is NOT the scale by which a man is judged. It is his FAITH in Jesus Christ. Faith is NOT a religion. You are being purposely deceptive. Like that devil.

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#844 Nov 17, 2012
CIA Free wrote:
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But that still makes no difference in man's redemption by Jesus Christ. You actually cheapen the value of Jesus' offering in our behalf by suggesting that religion, especially your religion has anything to do with it.
Religion is NOT the scale by which a man is judged. It is his FAITH in Jesus Christ. Faith is NOT a religion. You are being purposely deceptive. Like that devil.
Forget religion if you like.

The important thing is that we all share the same faith and that that faith is the faith presented in the Bible.

Jehovah's Witnesses all share that faith.

Typically when a group of people share the same faith (like the Bible Christians did) we call that a "religion". But you don't have to use that word if you don't like it. It is just a word after all. It is the FAITH that is important.

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#845 Nov 17, 2012
dee lightful wrote:
<quoted text> Why does the WT say,
While inclining to view the pronunciation "Yah.weh" as the more correct way, we have retained the form "Jehovah" because of people's familiarity with it since the 14th century.(The Kingdom Interlinear Translation of the Greek Scriptures, 1969, p. 23.
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Yes, and that is the truth. People are familiar with the form Jehovah in English. Just as they are familiar with the name Jesus rather than Yehoshua, or Heysous.
dee lightful wrote:
...THE NAME WAS NEVER HEARD OF BEFORE THE 14TH CENTURY..
Many names were altered by virtue of pronunciation and linguistic changes as time moved on. Yet most people now recognize Jesus as Jesus in English and Jehovah as Jehovah in English. It is used as Jehovah and Jesus in many Bibles, not just the New World Translation. But for pronunciations to change is a part of linguistic changes. For instance, Jacob was pronounced Yaakov, and of course, in some languages the sounds of b and v are quite similar, the Hebrew and Greek versions of the name look quite similar. In Greek it was Iakobos and then Latin it had turned into Iacobus and then Iacomus. Yet we know it as Jacob and most people respond to that name rather than Iacomus, Yaakov, or another similar sounding name, even though closer to the Hebrew or Greek pronunciation.

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#846 Nov 18, 2012
Aneirin wrote:
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I have already dealt with this.
The people who translated that Bible have taken out God's name so it looks like "I AM" is God's name. It is a blatant rewriting of scripture.
The TRUE verse says that Jehovah (YHWH) is God's name.
Use an HONEST Bible for a change.
That is not an answer Aneirin, it is what you are taught to say. I am using an HONEST bible, I use the one brought over to the United States in 1599. You use one that was written, or should I say rewritten in 1950, then the complete New World Translation of the Holy Scriptures was released as a single volume in 1961. People had been using the bible all those years and had no idea they were using a fake bible?

Comments made by scholars who read the NWT..

"it is to be regretted that religious bias was allowed to colour many passages"

"an insult to the Word of God",

"From beginning to end this [first] volume is a shining example of how the Bible should not be translated."

"to their own preconceived and unbiblical theology."

"the deliberate distortion of truth by this sect is seen in the New Testament translation.... It is abundantly clear that a sect which can translate the New Testament like that is intellectually dishonest."

"on the whole, one gains a tolerably good impression of the scholarly equipment of the translators, but identified instances where the translation has been written to support doctrine, with "several quite erroneous renderings of the Greek."

There are a couple of good comments....

"In my linguistic research in connection with the Hebrew Bible and translations, I often refer to the English edition of what is known as the New World Translation. In so doing, I find my feeling repeatedly confirmed that this work reflects an honest endeavor to achieve an understanding of the text that is as accurate as possible."

"I am interested in the mission work of your people, and its world wide scope, and much pleased with the free, frank and vigorous translation. It exhibits a vast array of sound serious learning, as I can testify."

"The translation is evidently the work of skilled and clever scholars, who have sought to bring out as much of the true sense of the Greek text as the English language is capable of expressing.... We heartily recommend the New World Translation of the Christian Greek Scriptures, published in 1950 by the Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society."

The word Jehovah never appeared in the bible, but the Tetragrammaton YHWH did. If they wanted to make the bible true to form, they should have only used YHWH. But we also know they have twisted scriptures to make their teachings more believable. One was shown to you and you were to scared to comment on it until I ask for your comment and you had to say something. Anyone with any knowledge at all can see how that scripture was twisted by your religion. I hope and pray Aneirin, that one day soon you can see how you are being mislead. I hope and pray that you read the KJV bible that was used for many years by witnesses to teach their truth. You will find the truth in its pages about how Jesus is your savior, but you will not find one scripture that points to salvation from a religion or organization. Believe in Jesus, give your life to him instead of an organization and you will be saved. Don t allow pride keep you from admitting you are wrong in your beliefs and find the truth about Jesus.

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#847 Nov 18, 2012
Aneirin wrote:
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Its a well known fact that no one disputes.
All you have to do is compare the scripture with a translation that did NOT remove God's name. Karen even provided one in her post.
The NAME Jehovah never appeared in the bible NEVER. YHWH did, but never Jehovah, no one denies that.

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#848 Nov 18, 2012
Aneirin wrote:
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Are you really as stupid as you make out?
It is an absolute established UNCONTESTED FACT that God's name appears in the verses quoted and nearly 7,000 times elsewhere in the Bible.
Many translations have removed it. THAT'S A FACT.
It amazes me that anyone as ignorant as you of such BASIC Bible knowledge has the gall to criticise Jehpvah's Witnesses' beliefs. On a scale of zero to clueless you're a zero.
Why do you have to call her ignorant? Does that make you feel better when you do that? Basic Bible knowledge is what most every Christian has, but you, do not have that. Do we call you ignorant because of it? No, but you are just following what Men tell you to believe. Aneirin, Gods name in the bible is not Jehovah, it is YHWH. You fight so hard for that name because your leaders tell you to. You should read the bible and learn that the name JESUS is the name above all others and it is that name that is going to save you. You say we dont comprehend the bible, yet you do not comprehend that the name JESUS is the one above all others?

Philippians 2:9-11 Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name: 10 That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth; 11 And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the father.

God wants us to bow to Jesus. God wants our tongues to confess Jesus as Lord. He made Jesus over all things in Heaven and Earth and under the earth. But JWs do not pay Jesus any worship at all, even though Jehovah said we should bow to him. In Acts 4:12 it says,"Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved"

In Romans it says nothing should be able to separate us from the love of Jesus. But you are allowing men to separate you from it.

Colossians 3:16 Let the word of Christ dwell in you richly in all wisdom, teaching and admonishing one another in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing with grace in your hearts to the Lord. And whatever you do in word or deed, do all in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God the Father through Him.

Let Jesus save you Aneirin, open your heart and allow him to come in. His father Jehovah sent him for all of us to be saved. He gave his son so that you, and I, and everyone who believes, truly believes in him can be saved. It is this truly believing in Jesus that we show our honor to Jehovah.

Read the bible with an open heart. Read it with the Holy Spirits help to understand, and you will see that it is Jesus who is Your ONLY Savior.

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