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Florida Sunshine wrote:
<quoted text> ANd hes STILL CRYING over the TRUTH that has been exposed about him..
What a Baby..boo-hoo
If anyone has been exposed. It is YOU.

Shell, you did it to YOURSELF. You have no one else to blame.

I can't believe you even still have the audacity to even continue posting here, considering you dire situation.

You are not only breathtakingly desperate. But, stupid and clueless as well.

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SOS wrote:
<quoted text>"us"
We knew you were and still are a jw,
You've read it wrong: "us" from FC Chandler's mouth refers to the FauxPro JW faction, a little known sect of persons not affiliated with Jehovah's Witnesses in any way shape or form.

So in that respect, TPMP is "correct", but not in the way he anticipated :)

Fyi, of course.

“New one man.”

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BAWWWing = when you show the hypocrisy of its ok if we do it to 'your side' but you are stalking if you do it to 'our side'.
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TPMP wrote:
<quoted text> If anyone has been exposed. It is YOU.
Shell, you did it to YOURSELF. You have no one else to blame.
I can't believe you even still have the audacity to even continue posting here, considering you dire situation.
You are not only breathtakingly desperate. But, stupid and clueless as well.
Why would I Not post here?

I have EVERY right as much as your wife and Child abuseing dumb azz does.

I have NO "dire"situation,LMAO .LMAO.LMAO.
Just More Voices and made Up Stories and LIES coming from your Pea sized abusive mind.

How is the abusive situation at home with you abuseing your wife and children? Has she filed for divorce? Oh thats right JW's would stay in the abusive situation, putting their children at even more risk
Your POOR INNOCENT Children..

Keep ranting and Phishing.
Your only making more of a fool out of yourself.
I am getting a good laugh however.
lmao/lmao/lmao/lmao/
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The Real Karen wrote:
You must understand that this is how Jehovahs Witnesses do look at abuse of a wife from her JW husband. They, the Elders do tell the wife to stop making him do it to her, and tell her to suck it up in other words. I seen this done to my own mother when my father nearly killed her by putting her in the hospital. She was ask what SHE DID to upset him. She was told to just keep being a good wife and JW and he would eventually stop, well he did stop after he died. She lived in Hell for years because of the Elders advice. I loved my father, but his death did bring my mother rest from being beat up all the time.
Funny, when I was married to a JW wife I saw the elders listen to her and ignore headship. I lived in the hell. They would never say such ridiculous things where I lived. Funny how elders are totally different depending where you live, huh?

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#491
Nov 14, 2012
 
SOS wrote:
<quoted text>he is Fh chandler,

It's okay for him to do whatever he wants.
And he is always right.
When will you get that?
Dah me!

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man711 wrote:
<quoted text>Funny, when I was married to a JW wife I saw the elders listen to her and ignore headship. I lived in the hell.
Well this explains alot!

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#493
Nov 14, 2012
 
It was the opposite for me with my first husband. Some of them believed him, over me...altho he was lying about practically everything. He was a very convencing, liar, and charming. BUT in due time, they learned that his "charm" was merely on the surface. BUT it did some collateral damage with me...it took me some time to ever get my Spirital balance again. I have no ill feelings toward the Elders that were involved, altho I have learned they suffered some Spirital damage as well. One I have been told left the Truth...the other had to step down from being an Elder. That does not make me happy. I would never want to see another lose their hope for eternal life. He and I had been Baptized at the same time...but he was always wishy washy, and was very abusive to me.
man711 wrote:
<quoted text>Funny, when I was married to a JW wife I saw the elders listen to her and ignore headship. I lived in the hell. They would never say such ridiculous things where I lived. Funny how elders are totally different depending where you live, huh?
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Nov 14, 2012
 
Simply Intrigued wrote:
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I read where she was not a JW. I didn't take sides against her. If I was here when all that happened with what we all now know, I would have wondered why she thought the need to contact all of you. She hadn't posted on the board so why bring you all into her's and Topsy's life.
Actually she is a signed up member ofthis board. and yes, she did post on here many times and we all posted to her back as well.
She wasn't a stranger.
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Nov 14, 2012
 
Florida Sunshine wrote:
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Why would I Not post here?
I have EVERY right as much as your wife and Child abuseing dumb azz does.
I have NO "dire"situation,LMAO .LMAO.LMAO.
Just More Voices and made Up Stories and LIES coming from your Pea sized abusive mind.
How is the abusive situation at home with you abuseing your wife and children? Has she filed for divorce? Oh thats right JW's would stay in the abusive situation, putting their children at even more risk
Your POOR INNOCENT Children..
Keep ranting and Phishing.
Your only making more of a fool out of yourself.
I am getting a good laugh however.
lmao/lmao/lmao/lmao/
Neither he nor his wife are baptised JW's. It was their parents, not them.
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#496
Nov 14, 2012
 
Simply Intrigued wrote:
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Now you are disrespecting your father after his death.
No one is made to stay in a marriage if that person is not safe.
Techniquly correct. On the surface.As long as you want to remain a JW. But I personally knew a woman that was a devoted JW who had to sneak out of the house to catch meetings when she could and endure beatings and verbal abuse when she got home. Her husband got cancer and was abusive to her until the day he died.
The advise of the elders was for her to remain married and with him. I heard it said by the elder that studied with us.
He said that she didn;t have grounds for a divorce. She could leave him but they would frown on it and when she had left him once she was told she should go back. That is a fact.
It happened in the 70's and 80's to this poor woman. And she did suffer greatly.
He knew exactly how to crush her with words and actions.
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#497
Nov 14, 2012
 
I can't hardly believe this is still all you guys want to talk about.
It reminds me of Mad M's trinity discussions.

“Mystical Atheism for everyone!”

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#498
Nov 15, 2012
 
Isn't calling someone an apostate, a liar, in league with the devil, and worthy of death along with the rest of humanity as judged by the Jehovah's Witnesses, a very malicious form of slander?

and don't forget the catchy phrase, "The great Harlot of Babylon" !

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#499
Nov 15, 2012
 
Simply Intrigued wrote:
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Now you are disrespecting your father after his death.
No one is made to stay in a marriage if that person is not safe.
No I am not disrespecting my father, he disrespected himself and my mother. The Elders told my mother to be a good little witness wife and stop making him do those things. Many of those here have even said that JEHOVAH don't like divorce, they have even said they are glad Topsy and his wife got back together, not once thinking about her safety if what he was charged with is true. My mother came very close to death a couple of times because of the beatings she received from my father, but as long as she stayed and was the good little witness, the Elders said "good girl". Please tell me where Jehovah tells any woman to remain in a relationship like that.

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#500
Nov 15, 2012
 
Hoodwinked wrote:
<quoted text>Sure is Karen.My mother went through the same hell for years before she finally left.
Reading these posts are really bringing back all the mess that has gone on in this forum!! We really are a dysfunctional bunch aren't we?? LOL!
Watching it through others reading it for the first time makes me laugh...they are probably wondering why the heck we stick around?
Believe it or not, this place has really helped a lot of us through some really difficult times and I know for myself I feel really connected to many posters here :) I take breaks here and there but I'm always drawn back to see how things are going with all of you.
I agree we are a dysfunctional bunch for sure. All of us have skeletons in our closets,some we share, some we do not. When I think back on my life as a child, I can only remember the bad times, maybe because there were more bad than good. Did it have to do with my mother becoming a witness, I have no idea, but I do know that once mom became a witness, it seemed my dad was left out because he was not a witness. I don't like to think back about my childhood because there was a lot of bad things in it. We never went hungry, or without clothes to wear, but living in a home where the father beat the mother was a scary thing. I often wondered by mom never left him, but now I know that it was frowned upon by the witnesses. So she remained in that abusive marriage until he died, and then remarried years later to a good man who never lifted a finger to harm her.
Maybe "simply" was right, I am disrespecting my father, but how can a person respect someone who beats the living daylights out of their mother. I loved him yes, but respect him, no.

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Nov 15, 2012
 
man711 wrote:
<quoted text>Funny, when I was married to a JW wife I saw the elders listen to her and ignore headship. I lived in the hell. They would never say such ridiculous things where I lived. Funny how elders are totally different depending where you live, huh?
Yes it is amazing how Elders differ from KH to KH. I was allowed to wear pants to the KH and so was another sister. Never once did one of them ever say anything to us about it,yet here many of you say pants are not allowed. Also I know that the Elders said these things to my mother for a fact because once I was present (she could not do it alone anymore, it was to hard on her) and once she told me, she had no reason to lie about it. So say, or insinuate I am lying, Jehovah knows the truth and so do I. This false unity they claim they have, truly does not exist. I am not saying that your situation is not true, so please do not insinuate that mine isn't true.

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#502
Nov 15, 2012
 
Pam wrote:
<quoted text>Techniquly correct. On the surface.As long as you want to remain a JW. But I personally knew a woman that was a devoted JW who had to sneak out of the house to catch meetings when she could and endure beatings and verbal abuse when she got home. Her husband got cancer and was abusive to her until the day he died.
The advise of the elders was for her to remain married and with him. I heard it said by the elder that studied with us.
He said that she didn;t have grounds for a divorce. She could leave him but they would frown on it and when she had left him once she was told she should go back. That is a fact.
It happened in the 70's and 80's to this poor woman. And she did suffer greatly.
He knew exactly how to crush her with words and actions.
This is not an uncommon story at all. My heart always goes out to the brother or sister who endures the abuse of an unbelieving mate. Or vice versa, but it's tough to try to get to meetings and whatnot if you are being actively opposed at every turn. Some are more fortunate in that regard, ie their mate doesn't "actively oppose" or might even support, them.

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Nov 15, 2012
 
The Real Karen wrote:
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Yes it is amazing how Elders differ from KH to KH. I was allowed to wear pants to the KH and so was another sister. Never once did one of them ever say anything to us about it,yet here many of you say pants are not allowed. Also I know that the Elders said these things to my mother for a fact because once I was present (she could not do it alone anymore, it was to hard on her) and once she told me, she had no reason to lie about it. So say, or insinuate I am lying, Jehovah knows the truth and so do I. This false unity they claim they have, truly does not exist. I am not saying that your situation is not true, so please do not insinuate that mine isn't true.
it is usually who the b/s is, most of the time they take the brothers side on just about everything.

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#504
Nov 15, 2012
 
I fail to understand how relating the circumstances of one's upbringing qualifies as "disrespecting" one's parent.
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Nov 15, 2012
 
acrobat wrote:
I fail to understand how relating the circumstances of one's upbringing qualifies as "disrespecting" one's parent.
IT DOESN'T but it makes for good provoking of that other person who is simply telling a life experience .God would everyone had nothing but good parents and experiences but they don't and many have came out of situations that were less than perfect yet survived and were better for it and have learned to become better not bitter .God bless .

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