Who Degrades & Devalues God's Name Je...
Pat

AOL

#1638 Nov 10, 2013
little lamb wrote:
<quoted text>
Hear the word of Jehovah
Psalm 74 [18] REMEMBER THIS, The enemy himself has reproached O Jehovah
And a SENSELESS people have treated your name with DISRESPECT'
I would say the disrespect is when someone calls God a name that is not his then makes it a salvation issue to others who call Him FATHER as Jesus instructed us to .
Not one person has disrespected God name maybe those who come in a name that is not Gods and says it is then calls people names and acts as a judge of others .Since we do not know how God pronounced His name people cannot disrespect that but they can disrespect God by not honoring the son with the same honor we show him .If you don't have Jesus LL you don't have his Father either .

“Photo of JW gathering”

Since: Nov 07

Location hidden

#1639 Nov 10, 2013
Schleptik wrote:
<quoted text>Not true. Your statements, while claiming to be true, are not. If Jesus is vocalized with a J sound in English, the the tetragrammaton can be vocalized that way, too. The rest of your post (and tao's posts) do not make sense, cry as you will about what you think or don't think. You and tao.
You all have such different opinions, I'm sure many of you think you're "saved," while one says God's name IS Jehovah or it doesn't matter how it's pronounced, you say that belief in the trinity is not essential to salvation -- others say it is essential to salvation -- you say that Jesus can heal in other religions that are not believing in Jesus --:-) and on and on with those silly beliefs of yours. So enjoy your time doing that -- because all I've learned from you and yours is a bunch of drivel. AND -- thanks to the extended discussions about your (and yours) beliefs, I have learned that you are wrong, wrong, and wrong -- and worse than that -- lie a lot.:-)
Well -- have a nice day.
Hey stupid, it's not important!

This discussion is NOT about Jesus.

This discussion is about the fake, fabricated, GOLDEN CALF worshipped by the non-Christian, satanic cult of the jehovah's witnesses.

The only reason cult defenders bring the "Jesus discussion" out, is because it is impossible to defend their Golden Calf, jehovah.

If Jesus is wrong, why didn't the evil and wicked cult of jehovah's witnesses leave "Jesus" out of their fake bible, the NWT, which was only written to prop up the false doctrines of their cult.
dee lightful

Stanley, NC

#1640 Nov 10, 2013
little lamb wrote:
It is written " your word is a light to my feet'
Gods word says and pronounces God the Fathers name as Jehovah.
God never said Pat's uncertainty is a light to our feet
Nor deelightful's so called extensive knowledge from outside sources other then the word ..is a light to our feet.
Nope all scripture is inspired of God
And scripture says Gods name is Jehovah.
Then you also agree that the Trinity is correct and inspired for this too must be correct and yet the WT has changed this and many other scriptures.
1 John 5:7 KJV
7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.
.
The only answer there can be is that the NWT is corrupt for the differences can not all be inspired and since the NWT is the johnny come lately they have corrupted the inspired words of God. and is as horrible as the biblical scholars say.
.
little lamb

Port Augusta, Australia

#1641 Nov 10, 2013
Pat wrote:
<quoted text>
Are you claiming to be the Israel of God LL ?
And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise. Gal. 3:29.
ARE YOU IN CHRIST LL ? Do you praise Him , bow down before Him , confess His name witness of Him , point others to Him , have you been born again in Christ Jesus ?
For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision availeth any thing, nor uncircumcision, but a new creature. And as many as walk according to this rule, peace be on them, and mercy, and upon the Israel of God. Gal. 6:15,16.
Difference between you and me is I preach the word as truth

Ezekiel 39:7
"'I will make known my holy name among my people Israel. I will no longer let my holy name be profaned, and the nations will know that I Jehovah am the Holy One in Israel.'

And you just preach the word to ask me questions....

Its called distracting from the word onto the messenger.
little lamb

Port Augusta, Australia

#1642 Nov 10, 2013
dee lightful wrote:
<quoted text> Then you also agree that the Trinity is correct and inspired for this too must be correct and yet the WT has changed this and many other scriptures.
1 John 5:7 KJV
7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.
.
The only answer there can be is that the NWT is corrupt for the differences can not all be inspired and since the NWT is the johnny come lately they have corrupted the inspired words of God. and is as horrible as the biblical scholars say.
.
Trinity not a word found in scripture

Jehovah's name is recorded in scripture, are you accusing the King james version as being corrupt as well?

As the name Jehovah is found in there as well

By the way the scripture you quote

" For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one."

I believe what it says ..after all God purposes to bring everything in heaven and earth back into union with Christ

So one would expect unity with all in heaven once Satan was kicked out.

By the way 'trinity' is not mentioned in the scripture and neither is the word God...trying to imply One God from that scripture takes a bit of adding on.
Pat

AOL

#1643 Nov 10, 2013
little lamb wrote:
<quoted text>
Difference between you and me is I preach the word as truth
Ezekiel 39:7
"'I will make known my holy name among my people Israel. I will no longer let my holy name be profaned, and the nations will know that I Jehovah am the Holy One in Israel.'
And you just preach the word to ask me questions....
Its called distracting from the word onto the messenger.
YAH RIGHT ..........

“Photo of JW gathering”

Since: Nov 07

Location hidden

#1644 Nov 10, 2013
little lamb wrote:
<quoted text>
Trinity not a word found in scripture
Neither is the fake, fabricated "jehovah" except the inferior versions where it was added.

And we all realize you worship the Golden Calf called "jehovah".
Pat

AOL

#1645 Nov 10, 2013
little lamb wrote:
<quoted text>
Difference between you and me is I preach the word as truth
Ezekiel 39:7
"'I will make known my holy name among my people Israel. I will no longer let my holy name be profaned, and the nations will know that I Jehovah am the Holy One in Israel.'
And you just preach the word to ask me questions....
Its called distracting from the word onto the messenger.
Well LL you don't preach you make up the meaning for scripture as you fly along solo .You mind questions , what are you attempting to hide ?
Regardless of how you protest the original pronunciation of YHWH IS LONG LOST .To argue differently places you in complete disagreement with nearly everyone including the WTO who admits it is and Yahweh would perhaps be the more correct way to pronounce the word .To say Jehovah or to not say Jehovah it really doesn't matter to me it is when it becmes an salvation issue that people have gone to far and JW HAVE taken it to that level not God .
I notice you can barely choke out Jesus name , refuse to praise Him , and confess Him yet claim you are part of the Israel of God , how is that ? I sincerely doubt you have ever ask Christ into your life or asked forgiveness of Him for your sins have you ? The very one who died for you , you cannot praise .You cannot fall down before Him and confess .Israel of God I DOUBT THAT , people that follow Jesus confess Jesus , proclaim Jesus , point others to Jesus .You say I ask you questions your darn right because you need to examine your beliefs you don't fit in at the KH and you don't fit in in any church denomination either flying solo is dangerous .I think you love God and your mixed up .
Pat

AOL

#1646 Nov 10, 2013
Mega Rude wrote:
<quoted text>
Neither is the fake, fabricated "jehovah" except the inferior versions where it was added.
And we all realize you worship the Golden Calf called "jehovah".
LL doesn't get concepts no the word Trinity is not there but 3 united is there
However, there are three persons which exist as God: the Father (1 Peter 1:2), the Son (Acts 20:28; Hebrews 1:8) and the Holy Spirit (Acts 5:3,4). These three have the same essence and are necessarily equal in their attributes.
Jesus has the nature of God (John 1:1) as do the other persons in the Godhead (John 1:2; Genesis 1:2; 1 Timothy 1:1). Yet , Jesus is not the Father (2 John 3) and the Father is not Jesus (1 John 4:14). Neither is the Holy Spirit the Father (John 15:26), or the Father the Holy Spirit (John 14:26). Jesus is not the Holy Spirit (Acts 10:38), and the Holy Spirit is not Jesus (John 16:13-15). Three distinct persons having the same essential nature.
There is unity in the Godhead. This unity applies to the essence or nature of God -- there is only one state of being God. This unity applies to the will and purpose of God -- there is perfect agreement between the three persons who are God regarding their eternal purpose and the execution of their plan. This unity applies to their diverse roles in that plan -- each one functions in order that their purpose and their will is accomplished and so that they are glorified as the one true and living God.
LL says she believes the Bible but she believes only what she wants to the rest she explains away .

“Read God's Word”

Since: Aug 12

Location hidden

#1647 Nov 10, 2013
dee lightful wrote:
.
Jesus' name was not vowelized with a "J" in Hebrew nor Greek
Not vowelized with a "J" in Hebrew nor Greek? Clearly his mother never called him JESUS with a J sound. In any language.
dee lightful wrote:
.
and YHWH is Hebrew and no vocalization is known so there is no English translation possible.
YHWH are letters transliterated from the Hebrew letters. Vocalization IS agreed when a population decides on the pronunciation of a group of LETTERS that form words. That is why the name JEHOVAH was used for hundreds of years since the King James Version, at Psalm 83:18. "That men may know that thou, whose name alone is JEHOVAH, art the most high over all the earth."
dee lightful wrote:
.
Why don't you get your facts straight for it is Boni and the other JW's that claim the Trinity is a salvation issue not Trinitarians.
Again you say that the Trinity is not a salvation issue. Great. And you say that it's not necessary to believe that God is a trinity in order to be saved.
You say YHWH cannot be pronounced; it can be pronounced; it has been transliterated in many languages accepted by people, and spoken by millions of trinitarians including the writers and readers of the King James Bible and churchgoers through the ages.

The scriptures show that the tetragrammaton is there. And that it has been written out as JEHOVAH or more recently as YAHWEH in English by scholars for centuries. To use the word LORD there for YHWH is not a truthful translation.

The scriptures say that the most high God's name is JEHOVAH.(Psalm 83:18, King James Version) His SON'S name is JESUS. Jehovah kept the tetragrammaton there so people can see His name, vowel points were not introduced until way after the Bible was completed, and no one today knows for sure the way any word in Hebrew was pronounced back then.
dee lightful wrote:
.
We believe what Jesus taught us that he alone is our mediator and our ONLY salvation ,and that is to care for our neighbors.
If you read the BIBLE, including the King James Version, Psalm 83:18 says that the Most High God is JEHOVAH.
"That men may know that thou, whose name alone is JEHOVAH, art the most high over all the earth." Psalm 83:18, King James Version.
dee lightful wrote:
.
It is the WTS that goes overboard with their demand that you believe they are God's mouthpiece with no scripture to back them up.
"That men may know that thou, whose name alone is JEHOVAH, art the most high over all the earth." King James Version.
dee lightful wrote:
.
You should know that they are not necessary for salvation for scriptures tells us Jesus alone is the salvation of mankind.
So we shall leave it that you are not necessary to say anything, leave it to Jesus, he's higher than you are. And you also say that belief in the trinity is not necessary for salvation.
dee lightful wrote:
.
WHY DON'T YOU ADDRESS THOSE LIES instead of the differences of others after all what others believe or don't believe will not affect your salvation but believing lies of the WTS will.
Unfortunately you don't understand or admit your own lies. Until then, it is impossible to go on with clarity.

“Read God's Word”

Since: Aug 12

Location hidden

#1648 Nov 10, 2013
Pat wrote:
<quoted text>
Well LL you don't preach you make up the meaning for scripture as you fly along solo .You mind questions , what are you attempting to hide ?
Regardless of how you protest the original pronunciation of YHWH IS LONG LOST .To argue differently places you in complete disagreement with nearly everyone including the WTO who admits it is and Yahweh would perhaps be the more correct way to pronounce the word .To say Jehovah or to not say Jehovah it really doesn't matter to me it is when it becmes an salvation issue that people have gone to far and JW HAVE taken it to that level not God .
I notice you can barely choke out Jesus name , refuse to praise Him , and confess Him yet claim you are part of the Israel of God , how is that ? I sincerely doubt you have ever ask Christ into your life or asked forgiveness of Him for your sins have you ? The very one who died for you , you cannot praise .You cannot fall down before Him and confess .Israel of God I DOUBT THAT , people that follow Jesus confess Jesus , proclaim Jesus , point others to Jesus .You say I ask you questions your darn right because you need to examine your beliefs you don't fit in at the KH and you don't fit in in any church denomination either flying solo is dangerous .I think you love God and your mixed up .
Is belief in the trinity necessary for salvation? dee says it is not. She also says I shouldn't believe you or her, since she says I should only believe the Bible -- not the word of men -- and I don't see that belief in the Trinity is necessary for salvation as recorded in the BIBLE. Therefore, belief in the made up trinity is not necessary for salvation. In fact -- belief in the made up trinity might ensure that someone is NOT saved.

“Photo of JW gathering”

Since: Nov 07

Location hidden

#1649 Nov 10, 2013
Schleptik wrote:
<quoted text>
Is belief in the trinity necessary for salvation? dee says it is not. She also says I shouldn't believe you or her, since she says I should only believe the Bible -- not the word of men -- and I don't see that belief in the Trinity is necessary for salvation as recorded in the BIBLE. Therefore, belief in the made up trinity is not necessary for salvation. In fact -- belief in the made up trinity might ensure that someone is NOT saved.
The word organization never appears in the Bible, yet organization appears 16,789 times on the 2006 Watchtower Library CD. This is because belonging to an organization is not a Scriptural requirement, but rather a common concept amongst religious cults like the jehovah's witnesses.

jehovah's witnesses claim that belonging to an organization is essential for salvation.

"To receive everlasting life in the earthly Paradise we must identify that organization and serve God as part of it." Watchtower 1983 Feb 15 p.12

Yet the word "organization" never appears in the Bible, nor is it ever stated in either the Old or New Testaments that membership of an organization is a requirement of salvation. The Scriptures repeatedly state that it is faith in Jesus that results in everlasting life.

The Watchtower 1975 Sep 1 p.531 asks "Where could we turn if we would leave God's organization today? There is nowhere else!(John 6:66-69)". This quote refers to John 6:66-69 for support that there is nowhere other than the Organization. However, John makes a very different point:

"Simon Peter answered him: "Lord, whom shall we go away to? You have sayings of everlasting life."" John 6:68

One cannot help but wonder how Jesus feels having the Watchtower Society applying this Scripture to themselves, rather than to Jesus the only source of salvation.
Pat

AOL

#1650 Nov 10, 2013
Schleptik wrote:
<quoted text>
Is belief in the trinity necessary for salvation? dee says it is not. She also says I shouldn't believe you or her, since she says I should only believe the Bible -- not the word of men -- and I don't see that belief in the Trinity is necessary for salvation as recorded in the BIBLE. Therefore, belief in the made up trinity is not necessary for salvation. In fact -- belief in the made up trinity might ensure that someone is NOT saved.
However, there are three persons which exist as God: the Father (1 Peter 1:2), the Son (Acts 20:28; Hebrews 1:8) and the Holy Spirit (Acts 5:3,4).
Jesus is called God in several passages in the Bible. These include John 1:1; 20:28; Hebrews 1:8; Titus 2:13; 2 Peter 1:1; and 1John 5:26. Other passages, such as Romans 9:5; Philippians 2:6; and Colossians 2:9, ascribe deity to Jesus, thereby showing Him to be God.

Both JESUS AND THE FATHER are confessed as Lord (Isa 45:23; Phil 2:11) and worshipped by angels (Ps 148:2; Heb 1:6) as well as by people (the Psalms; John 4:21-24; Matt 28:17). Both are called Savior (Isa 43:11; 45:22; John 4:42), Judge (Joel 3:12; John 5:27), and Redeemer (Hos 13:14; Rev 5:9; 21:2).

The Holy Spirit is called God (Acts 5:3,4; 2Cor 3:17,18

So while you say the Trinity is man made we have scriptures we use that convinces us that the Bible does reveal a tri unity

AND NO I do not believe that belief in it is a salvation issue .
Pat

AOL

#1651 Nov 10, 2013
Consider the following personal characteristics of the Spirit. How can a non-personal force possess these qualities?

John 16:13 - The Spirit hears.
1 Corinthians 12:8 - The Spirit gives gifts.
Acts 15:28 - He decides or determines whether or not an act is good.
1 Corinthians 6:11 - He justifies.
Romans 15:30 - He loves
Acts 5:9 - He can be tried or tested.
1 Corinthians 12:11 - He wills (power to choose).
Romans 8:27 - He has a mind.
1 Corinthians 2:11 - He knows.
Acts 5:3 - He can be lied to.
Ephesians 4:30; Isaiah 63:10 - He can be grieved.

“Read God's Word”

Since: Aug 12

Location hidden

#1652 Nov 10, 2013
Pat wrote:
<quoted text>
However, there are three persons which exist as God: the Father (1 Peter 1:2), the Son (Acts 20:28; Hebrews 1:8) and the Holy Spirit (Acts 5:3,4).
Jesus is called God in several passages in the Bible. These include John 1:1; 20:28; Hebrews 1:8; Titus 2:13; 2 Peter 1:1; and 1John 5:26. Other passages, such as Romans 9:5; Philippians 2:6; and Colossians 2:9, ascribe deity to Jesus, thereby showing Him to be God.
Both JESUS AND THE FATHER are confessed as Lord (Isa 45:23; Phil 2:11) and worshipped by angels (Ps 148:2; Heb 1:6) as well as by people (the Psalms; John 4:21-24; Matt 28:17). Both are called Savior (Isa 43:11; 45:22; John 4:42), Judge (Joel 3:12; John 5:27), and Redeemer (Hos 13:14; Rev 5:9; 21:2).
The Holy Spirit is called God (Acts 5:3,4; 2Cor 3:17,18
So while you say the Trinity is man made we have scriptures we use that convinces us that the Bible does reveal a tri unity
AND NO I do not believe that belief in it is a salvation issue .
There are many things here to discuss.

I was trying to compare Psalm 148:2 with Hebrews 1:6 in reference to worship of Jehovah and Jesus. But I see the verses are not translated the same way.

Psalm 148:2, American Standard Version says at Psalm 148:1-3: "Praise ye Jehovah. Praise ye Jehovah from the heavens: Praise him in the heights.
Praise ye him, all his angels: Praise ye him, all his host.
Praise ye him, sun and moon: Praise him, all ye stars of light."

We assume the sun and moon, stars, literally do not talk, therefore they praise him by their existence. However, The American Standard Version of the Bible does translate the tetragrammaton as Jehovah here. Since the original scrolls they took this from evidently used the tetragrammaton there, I will rather see Jehovah there than the word LORD, which so many Bibles put. It is refreshing.

But now as I was comparing translations there, I see that it does not say "worship" Jehovah. In fact, I looked at many translations of Ps. 148:2 ( biblehub.com ) and do not see the word worship there at verse 2 in any of them, do you? I see praise, not worship.

Hebrews 1:6 does use the word worship there. "And again, when God brings his firstborn into the world, he says, "Let all God's angels worship him."

Before we get into any discussion of worship vs. obeisance there (Young's Literal Translation does say 'And let them bow before him -- all messengers of God;' but I agree that every other translation at that website says 'worship.'(not obeisance as the NWT does. We can discuss this perhaps later.) However, so as not to get sidetracked, I would like to peacefully discuss this difference between Hebrews 1:6 and Psalm 148:2, the point being that I do not see the word worship used at any translation for Psalm 148:2.

Well, perhaps we can pick this up tomorrow.

“All the best to you, in life!”

Since: Oct 07

Fort Lauderdale, FL

#1653 Nov 11, 2013
Schleptik wrote:
Before we get into any discussion of worship vs. obeisance there (Young's Literal Translation does say 'And let them bow before him -- all messengers of God;' but I agree that every other translation at that website says 'worship.'(not obeisance as the NWT does. We can discuss this perhaps later.) However, so as not to get sidetracked, I would like to peacefully discuss this difference between Hebrews 1:6 and Psalm 148:2, the point being that I do not see the word worship used at any translation for Psalm 148:2.
So then, why do Jehovah's Witnesses decline to praise Jesus, directly, or even to speak to him, directly?

They certainly do not do obeisance to Jesus directly.

Instead, they claim that they do obeisance "in effect" to Jesus.

Psalm 148:2 certainly does not indicate that all messenger of God would bow to him "in effect."

In fact, however, Jehovah's Witnesses do not bow to Jesus, even "in effect."

They explain away what Jesus said as meaning something besides what he said.

"You will be witnesses of me ... to the most distant part of the earth."—Acts 1:8

Here, Jesus tells his disciples pointedly who it is they will be witnesses of.

Jehovah's Witnesses have chosen instead to draw their name from Isaiah 43:10, a prophecy that was to be fulfilled by Israel, not by Christians.

"And do not become fearful of those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul ..."—Matthew 10:28

Jesus plainly comforts his disciples by revealing to them that there are those who can kill the body but who CANNOT kill the soul. Jehovah's Witnesses flatly deny that the body can possibly be killed without killing the soul.

Who degrades and devalues God's name?

Anyone who claims to teach in God's name doctrines that are contrary to what Jesus taught.

There are many teachers who do.

For instance, in just one religion, there are more than 7,000,000 people who publicly join their faithless and indiscreet Governor class in degrading and devaluing the name of God by rejecting the plain words and simple commands of God's Son.

"Eat."

"Drink."

"Come to me."

Simple, direct, straightforward commands from Jesus.

These commands of Jesus are denied as "not applying to me" by almost all every single one of Jehovah's Witnesses.

Whereas Jesus said, "Go therefore ... teaching them all the things I commanded you."

They do not bow even "in effect."

“Read God's Word”

Since: Aug 12

Location hidden

#1654 Nov 11, 2013
AuldSoul1 wrote:
<quoted text>
So then, why do Jehovah's Witnesses decline to praise Jesus, directly, or even to speak to him, directly?
They certainly do not do obeisance to Jesus directly.
...Jehovah's Witnesses have chosen instead to draw their name from Isaiah 43:10, a prophecy that was to be fulfilled by Israel, not by Christians.
"And do not become fearful of those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul ..."—Matthew 10:28
Jesus plainly comforts his disciples by revealing to them that there are those who can kill the body but who CANNOT kill the soul. Jehovah's Witnesses flatly deny that the body can possibly be killed without killing the soul.
Who degrades and devalues God's name?
Anyone who claims to teach in God's name doctrines that are contrary to what Jesus taught.
...They do not bow even "in effect."
I think you misunderstand many things, but in this case I would like to stick to the point that Pat raised in order to have an orderly discussion and not jump subjects.

I did not find that the word worship is used in Psalm 148:2 - so I hope Pat can say why those scriptures show that both Jesus and the Father are "worshipped by angels."

“Read God's Word”

Since: Aug 12

Location hidden

#1655 Nov 11, 2013
Before I go into other subjects, I hope to have an orderly discussion about one question regarding Psalm 146:8 and Hebrews 1:6 and the "worship" of Father and Son.

Psalm 146:8 uses the word praise. Hebrews 1:6 in most translations uses the word worship. How do these two texts show that both Father and Son are to be worshipped, since Psalm 146 says praise and Hebrews 1:6 says worship.
Pat

AOL

#1656 Nov 11, 2013
PRAISE AND WORSHIP often used to mean the same thing so I would suppose for someone looking to nit pick the use of the two words can be an arguing point .
The point should be BOTH Father and Son receive worship and we are told the same honor should be given the son as is given that FaTHER .
Pat

AOL

#1657 Nov 11, 2013
John 5:23 - All men should honor the Son "just as" they honor the Father. To fail to give this honor to the Son is to fail to properly honor the Father.

Matthew 2:2 “Where is He who has been born King of the Jews? For we have seen His star in the East and have come to worship Him.”

Matthew 2:11 “And when they had come into the house, they saw the young child with Mary His mother, and fell down and worshiped Him.”

Matthew 14:33 “Then those who were in the boat came and worshiped Him, saying, Truly you are the Son of God.”

Matthew 28:9 “And as they went to tell His disciples, behold, Jesus met them, saying, Rejoice! And they came and held Him by the feet and worshiped Him.”

Matthew 28:17 “And when they saw Him, they worshiped Him; but some doubted.”

John 9:38 “Then he said,‘Lord, I believe!’ And he worshiped Him.”

Hebrews 1:6 “But when He again brings the firstborn into the world, He says,“Let all the angels of God worship Him.”

Testimony of the New Testament is clear: Jesus accepted worship. Luke 24:52

So we can pick on whether praise equals worship all day scriptures tell us Jesus received worship .Praise is a form of worship in the minds of many people others maybe not , however that aside scripture does show Jesus was worshipped .
YOU GRILL PEOPLE THAT IS YOUR PURPOSE HERE , so there is your answer some see praise as a form of worship others may not the question should be did and does Jesus receive worship and HE DOES .Auldsoul 1 MADE SOME GOOD POINTS .

Tell me when this thread is updated:

Subscribe Now Add to my Tracker

Add your comments below

Characters left: 4000

Please note by submitting this form you acknowledge that you have read the Terms of Service and the comment you are posting is in compliance with such terms. Be polite. Inappropriate posts may be removed by the moderator. Send us your feedback.

Jehovah's Witness Discussions

Title Updated Last By Comments
Muslim radicals strike again 3 min Omega 19
Jesus- the Hippy Godman who Pretended to Die? 4 min ihveit 89
Does Jehovah Know Everything? 5 min DR SOS 3
Jesus has a God 8 min Omega 85
The BIG JW Lie! 43 min rsss1 341
WTBRT Chapter 3 Paragraph 16 47 min Omega 10
Many churches now openly defy Federal law in th... 56 min pcloadletter 8
Is there a distinction.... 2 hr rsss1 106
The "Express Image" or "Exact Representation" 5 hr Tony Price 77 350
More from around the web