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What are the new heavens and the new earth?

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Irishbob

Plymouth, MA

#1 Mar 7, 2013
According to the bible Jesus talked about creating a New Heaven and New Earth. 2 Peter 3:13 Rev20:1 Why is it, the only ones i get an answer from on this subject is from the J W. No Catholic or Evangelical or any other group has an answer.The theologians of Christendom seem to avoid this most important scripture and only focus on the coming of Jesus in the rapture.
man_711

Seattle, WA

#2 Mar 7, 2013
Irishbob wrote:
According to the bible Jesus talked about creating a New Heaven and New Earth. 2 Peter 3:13 Rev20:1 Why is it, the only ones i get an answer from on this subject is from the J W. No Catholic or Evangelical or any other group has an answer.The theologians of Christendom seem to avoid this most important scripture and only focus on the coming of Jesus in the rapture.
They can't answer because there is no explanation that fits with their false teachings of everyone go to heaven or hell.

Since: Mar 12

Location hidden

#3 Mar 8, 2013
Not sure who you have been talking to Bobby, but JWs dont teach that. The JWs are just gonna clean up the old earth after Armageddon.

Be careful, one might be scoping out YOUR house right now.
Fong Gul

Monticello, NY

#4 Mar 8, 2013
Your business partner, spouse or best friend may not want to share you today and this could cause problems, as your job is taking much of your energy. Try not to fight: the real problem is that you haven't been able to talk lately, so make time for togetherness if you want the course of love to run smoothly.
bennie

San Jose, CA

#5 Mar 8, 2013
man_711 wrote:
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They can't answer because there is no explanation that fits with their false teachings of everyone go to heaven or hell.
What we will be has not yet been known. But we know that when Christ appears,....

1 John 3:
1 See what great love the Father has lavished on us, that we should be called children of God! And that is what we are! The reason the world does not know us is that it did not know him.
2 Dear friends, now we are children of God, and what we will be has not yet been made known. But we know that when Christ appears, we shall be like him, for we shall see him as he is.
3 All who have this hope in him purify themselves, just as he is pure.
bennie

San Jose, CA

#6 Mar 8, 2013
man_711 wrote:
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They can't answer because there is no explanation that fits with their false teachings of everyone go to heaven or hell.
Various people have made claims that things have been revealed to them (usually in secret) or in some weird dream.
Unknown

Oakden, Australia

#7 Mar 8, 2013
Irishbob wrote:
According to the bible Jesus talked about creating a New Heaven and New Earth. 2 Peter 3:13 Rev20:1 Why is it, the only ones i get an answer from on this subject is from the J W. No Catholic or Evangelical or any other group has an answer.The theologians of Christendom seem to avoid this most important scripture and only focus on the coming of Jesus in the rapture.
Plenty of groups have given their views on this. Just research it.
little lamb

Australia

#8 Mar 8, 2013
Seeing Jesus said ' he saw Satan falling like lightning from heaven'

it means because Jesus subjected himself to the will of the Father..he has given an answer to Satan's accusation in the court of heaven .

.and now Jesus has obtained all authority in heaven and on earth.

He is coming back to sit on his glorious throne and have all the nations gathered before him

in the mean time he has been calling out his bride...and Jesus said to the disciples when they came back to tell him that demons were even subject to them on the basis of his name..Told them their names are enrolled in the heavens...

a new heaven

When Jesus returns , he comes with all the Holy Ones ...it is called the RESTORATION

A judgment goes on, with sheep at his right hand and goats at his left...the judgment is allowed for a thousand years free of Satan's influence.

But after the thousand years Satan is allowed out to mislead the nations , and then fire comes down out of heaven and destroys them..

A new earth comes out of a cleansed earth..because the wicked are no more.
man_711

Seattle, WA

#9 Mar 11, 2013
bennie wrote:
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What we will be has not yet been known. But we know that when Christ appears,....
1 John 3:
1 See what great love the Father has lavished on us, that we should be called children of God! And that is what we are! The reason the world does not know us is that it did not know him.
2 Dear friends, now we are children of God, and what we will be has not yet been made known. But we know that when Christ appears, we shall be like him, for we shall see him as he is.
3 All who have this hope in him purify themselves, just as he is pure.
Where does that say you go to heaven or hell, LOL!
bennie

Torrance, CA

#10 Mar 11, 2013
man_711 wrote:
<quoted text>Where does that say you go to heaven or hell, LOL!
Here's one:

2 Corinthians 5:
1 For we know that if the earthly tent we live in is destroyed, we have a building from God, an eternal house in heaven, not built by human hands.
2 Meanwhile we groan, longing to be clothed instead with our heavenly dwelling,
3 because when we are clothed, we will not be found naked.
4 For while we are in this tent, we groan and are burdened, because we do not wish to be unclothed but to be clothed instead with our heavenly dwelling, so that what is mortal may be swallowed up by life.
5 Now the one who has fashioned us for this very purpose is God, who has given us the Spirit as a deposit, guaranteeing what is to come.
6 Therefore we are always confident and know that as long as we are at home in the body we are away from the Lord.
7 For we live by faith, not by sight.
8 We are confident, I say, and would prefer to be away from the body and at home with the Lord.
9 So we make it our goal to please him, whether we are at home in the body or away from it.
10 For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ, so that each of us may receive what is due us for the things done while in the body, whether good or bad.
man_711

Seattle, WA

#11 Mar 12, 2013
bennie wrote:
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Here's one:
2 Corinthians 5:
1 For we know that if the earthly tent we live in is destroyed, we have a building from God, an eternal house in heaven, not built by human hands.
2 Meanwhile we groan, longing to be clothed instead with our heavenly dwelling,
3 because when we are clothed, we will not be found naked.
4 For while we are in this tent, we groan and are burdened, because we do not wish to be unclothed but to be clothed instead with our heavenly dwelling, so that what is mortal may be swallowed up by life.
5 Now the one who has fashioned us for this very purpose is God, who has given us the Spirit as a deposit, guaranteeing what is to come.
6 Therefore we are always confident and know that as long as we are at home in the body we are away from the Lord.
7 For we live by faith, not by sight.
8 We are confident, I say, and would prefer to be away from the body and at home with the Lord.
9 So we make it our goal to please him, whether we are at home in the body or away from it.
10 For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ, so that each of us may receive what is due us for the things done while in the body, whether good or bad.
Using your scripture which FYI you fail to understand who it applies to ALL go to heaven no hell! Why do good then?
bennie

Torrance, CA

#12 Mar 12, 2013
man_711 wrote:
<quoted text>Using your scripture which FYI you fail to understand who it applies to ALL go to heaven no hell! Why do good then?
Who does it apply to?
man_711

Bothell, WA

#13 Mar 14, 2013
bennie wrote:
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Who does it apply to?
Answer my question first!
bennie

San Jose, CA

#14 Mar 14, 2013
man_711 wrote:
<quoted text>Answer my question first!
What exactly is your question?

Since: Nov 07

Location hidden

#15 Mar 14, 2013
"What are the New Heavens and the New Earth?"

Answer: Many people have a misconception of what heaven is truly like. Revelation chapters 21-22 gives us a detailed picture of the new heavens and the new earth. After the events of the end times, the current heavens and earth will be done away with and replaced by the new heavens and new earth. The eternal dwelling place of believers will be the new earth. The new earth is the “heaven” on which we will spend eternity. It is the new earth where the New Jerusalem, the heavenly city, will be located. It is on the new earth that the pearly gates and streets of gold will be.

Heaven—the new earth—is a physical place where we will dwell with glorified physical bodies (1 Corinthians 15:35-58). The concept that heaven is “in the clouds” is unbiblical. The concept that we will be “spirits floating around in heaven” is also unbiblical. The heaven that believers will experience will be a new and perfect planet on which we will dwell. The new earth will be free from sin, evil, sickness, suffering, and death. It will likely be similar to our current earth, or perhaps even a re-creation of our current earth, but without the curse of sin.

What about the new heavens? It is important to remember that in the ancient mind,“heavens” referred to the skies and outer space, as well as the realm in which God dwells. So, when Revelation 21:1 refers to the new heavens, it is likely indicating that the entire universe will be created—a new earth, new skies, a new outer space. It seems as if God's heaven will be recreated as well, to give everything in the universe a “fresh start,” whether physical or spiritual. Will we have access to the new heavens in eternity? Possibly, but we will have to wait to find out. May we all allow God’s Word to shape our understanding of heaven.

http://www.gotquestions.org/new-heavens-earth...
man_711

Bothell, WA

#16 Mar 15, 2013
bennie wrote:
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What exactly is your question?
Using your scripture which FYI you fail to understand who it applies to ALL go to heaven no hell! Why do good then?
jackie

Southampton, PA

#17 Apr 7, 2013
Irishbob wrote:
According to the bible Jesus talked about creating a New Heaven and New Earth. 2 Peter 3:13 Rev20:1 Why is it, the only ones i get an answer from on this subject is from the J W. No Catholic or Evangelical or any other group has an answer.The theologians of Christendom seem to avoid this most important scripture and only focus on the coming of Jesus in the rapture.
I believe it is the unrighteous that are raised to judgment and will be on earth being judged while Satan and his demons are in chains for 1,000 years, and it is when Satan is set loose and those who follow him will have the same judgment as Satan gets.

And the righteous are the Anointed 144,000 raised to be in Heaven.

Since: Mar 09

United States

#18 Apr 8, 2013
It actually refers to a "cleansing" of wickedness, and all that makes up a corrupt world. Thats what was done in Noah's time. The earth and heavens were not destroyed, just cleaned up. That is what will be done with/following the Destruction of Armageddon.

“BIBLE TRUTHS *NEVER* CHANGE”

Since: Aug 09

LET GO AND LET GOD

#19 Apr 8, 2013
Nomi wrote:
It actually refers to a "cleansing" of wickedness, and all that makes up a corrupt world. Thats what was done in Noah's time. The earth and heavens were not destroyed, just cleaned up. That is what will be done with/following the Destruction of Armageddon.
I tend to agree. The Creator formed this planet as a perfect place that sustained all life....and He will restore and purify it again in His due time. We don't know how He will execute this, but both the bible and Native American teachings agree that the planet cannot go on very much longer what with all the ruination of our resources and loss of wildlife and sea creatures just to name a few.

Man's way, man's "too late"solutions and man's schemes are obviously not working to improve the earth...so the sensible thing to do is to put our complete trust towards those in the heavenly realm...to take care of things in their own way.
joe

Kingston, Jamaica

#20 Apr 8, 2013
Nomi wrote:
It actually refers to a "cleansing" of wickedness, and all that makes up a corrupt world. Thats what was done in Noah's time. The earth and heavens were not destroyed, just cleaned up. That is what will be done with/following the Destruction of Armageddon.
Nomi You rejected all the following scriptures just to promote you own idea.

(1) How is earth define in genesis?
(2) How is heaven defined in Genesis?
(3) where in bible it say heaven and earth mean to cleaned up?
(4) did not the bible says the earth was ruined my Noah flood.

The EARTH was made to last for a very long time , but things went wrong.

During Noam flood the earth was ruined NWT Genesis 6:13 . Vs 13 And God said unto Noah, The end of all flesh is come before me; for the earth is filled with violence through them; and, behold, I will destroy them with the earth.

NWT Psalm 104: 6-10 5 You fixed the earth on its foundations,
never to be moved.

6 You covered it with the deep like a garment;
the waters stood above the mountains.
7 At your rebuke they fled;

at the sound of your thunder they rushed away,
8 flowing over hills, pouring into valleys,
down to the place you had fixed for them.

9 You determined a boundary they could not cross;
they were never to cover the earth again.

Isaiah 51 :6 “Raise YOUR eyes to the heavens themselves, and look at the EARTH beneath. For the very heavens must be dispersed in fragments just like smoke, and like a garment the earth itself will wear out, and its inhabitants themselves will die like a mere gnat. But as for my salvation, it will prove to be even to time indefinite, and my own righteousness will not be shattered.

Psalms 102:25,26. Long ago you laid the foundations of the EARTH itself,
And the heavens are the work of your hands.

26 They themselves will perish, but you yourself will keep standing;
And just like a garment they will all of them wear out.
Just like clothing you will replace them, and they will finish their turn.

Zeph: 1:18 Neither their silver nor their gold will be able to deliver them in the day of Jehovah’s fury; but by the fire of his zeal the whole EARTHwill be devoured, because he will make an extermination, indeed a terrible one, of all the inhabitants of the earth.”

2 Peter 3”10 Yet Jehovah’s day will come as a thief, in which the heavens will pass away with a hissing noise, but the elements being intensely hot will be dissolved, and EARTH and the works in it will be discovered.

Rev 20: 11 And I saw a great white throne and the one seated on it. From before him the EARTH and the heaven fled away, and no place was found for them.
Announcing the territory part of God’s Kingdom,“a new heaven, and a new earth”, the only place where God promise, all faithful mankind, where righteousness is to dwell, and this is the territory part of God’s kingdom, in relation to this earth creation. 2 Peter 3:13.. Rev.21:1-4 (Matt: 6:10 the old earth will be no more, Isaiah 51: 6. Hebrews 1:10. See LINK www.jehovahtruekingdom.org

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