“Tight lines”

Since: Jun 07

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#69 Jan 4, 2012
Old Lady Pam wrote:
<quoted text>Maybe the WYO could organize something for their peoople like that. It would be very helpful if they got with the program and tried to help people.
I am assuming you mean the WTS.
Read this months Awake.
It talks about suicide but instead of focusing on only Witnesses, it is focusing on EVERYONE.
TPMP

Bronx, NY

#70 Jan 4, 2012
florida native wrote:
<quoted text>
lets run with that.
You were raised as a Witnesses and you started going back to meetings.
You also consider yourself to be a Witness currently (forget the whole Baptism thing).
The problem is this:
According to Matthew 7:16, people will know who we are by our fruits.
In Topix land, our "fruits" are the words that we type.
Now, it is going to sound like I am picking on you and I apologies in advance for that.
I am also aware that people in glass houses should not throw rocks.
What kind of fruits are you producing on this board?
Yes, you defend the WTS but, at what cost?
 
You had some pretty harsh words for one poster even going as far as to tell her to go lick her mothers c*nt
there was some additional vulgar things added to that thread.
Here is the rub.
a few hours ago, you were called out on it by Prime. Basically, he is saying "Look how the Witnesses speak"
Instead of apologizing for a moment of weakness, you justified it by saying that she has been harassing you.
I am sorry Jose but, that is no excuse.
I am not an Elder and lord knows that I have said some pretty stupid things myself but, if you are going to profess to be a Witness, please make an attempt to show it by your fruits.
Thanks,
FN.
I certintly respect what you have to say.

You have earned it.

However, my opinion is that one will get chewed up on this board if you let them.

Thy take whatever you say and twist it up into something unrecognizable and are just plain foul and vicious.

I'm beyond the point of making nice...Nor do i have any intrest in making nice with APOSTATES.

You need to learn that if you plan on staying a witnees...These APOSTATES will suck you in eventually if you don't hold your ground.

Why are you defending Prime?..so you can be able to be peaceful with APOSTATES and opposers?

REALITY CHECK: These same people and their ilk and those with attitudes like them will be calling for your head one day when the time calls for it. It will happen, FN.

Do not delude yourself.

The people are ANIMALS.

NO. I will never aplogize to Prime or anyone else.

NEVER!..JAMAS!

What on earth for?...Does he act like a decent catholic??

"Respect is two way street"

I don't know these people and they don't know me nor have any effect whatsoever once i walk away from the computer. In the end..nobody here knows each other.

==========

I will handle it my way. You handle it your's.

I just felt i owed you that explanation and i did it and that's that.

.

Enjoy your evening.

“New one man.”

Since: Jan 11

Location hidden

#71 Jan 4, 2012
TPMP wrote:
<quoted text>I certintly respect what you have to say.

You have earned it.

However, my opinion is that one will get chewed up on this board if you let them.

Thy take whatever you say and twist it up into something unrecognizable and are just plain foul and vicious.

I'm beyond the point of making nice...Nor do i have any intrest in making nice with APOSTATES.

You need to learn that if you plan on staying a witnees...These APOSTATES will suck you in eventually if you don't hold your ground.

Why are you defending Prime?..so you can be able to be peaceful with APOSTATES and opposers?

REALITY CHECK: These same people and their ilk and those with attitudes like them will be calling for your head one day when the time calls for it. It will happen, FN.

Do not delude yourself.

The people are ANIMALS.

NO. I will never aplogize to Prime or anyone else.

NEVER!..JAMAS!

What on earth for?...Does he act like a decent catholic??

"Respect is two way street"

I don't know these people and they don't know me nor have any effect whatsoever once i walk away from the computer. In the end..nobody here knows each other.

==========

I will handle it my way. You handle it your's.

I just felt i owed you that explanation and i did it and that's that.

.

Enjoy your evening.
Maybe you haven't noticed that regardless of disagreeing
with someone FN typically judges post for post not the poster. It's just too complicated a concept for you.
Pat

Rockford, IL

#72 Jan 4, 2012
MixedMedia wrote:
<quoted text>
Maybe you haven't noticed that regardless of disagreeing
with someone FN typically judges post for post not the poster. It's just too complicated a concept for you.
I think FN is a very decent man never seen him be vulgar to others regardless of their religion views.

“Psalms 47:1-9”

Since: Apr 11

Location hidden

#73 Jan 4, 2012
TPMP wrote:
<quoted text> Off topic.
I just want to say FN.
I apologize for getting a liitle annoyed with you when you said i wasn't a brother.
I can only speak for myself..... I am not SOS.
The truth is you are right.
I was raised JW. My family is and i have been making an efoort to attnd the mmetings as of late, whn i get a chnce to.
According to GB directives which they base firmly on the bible. One is not a brother until they are baptized, so you were right in a sense.
Please try to understand my "mindset" on this point.....When i was growing up in the hall. I was called brother. They sometimes still do when i run into some of the folks wh0o i have known for quite a while.
However, i am not a baptized witness.
I consider the witnness my brother's and sister's in spirit. although i am not baptized as of yet..... They are my people, for i wholeheartedly believe in their teachings, and it is who i am.
The insight to the scriptures book.(page 369)
Says "rh whole association of brothers who have the wrok of witneesing to Jesus" (Ipeter 2:17,5:9,RE 19:10)..such an association of spirtitual brothers shows "brotherly love" in it's fullest measure- Ro 12: 10, Heb 13:1)
I have been on the receipint of brotherly loved from those in the congo. Even when i had long stopped attending.
Their kind comportment toward me helped futher prove to me Jehovah's witnesses teach the truth.....Certaintly a lot better than anything out there.
I just wanted to explain to you. Because you are one of the few here who i trully respect.(only those who happen to be witneeses) You are a voice of sanity on this forum.
Thank you taking the time to read this.
Sincerly, TP
If you "wholeheartedly believe in the teachings and the spirit then there is nothing to keep you from becoming a JW right? Oh, except cursing, boxing, smoking and attending all the meetings and going out in service.

“Psalms 47:1-9”

Since: Apr 11

Location hidden

#74 Jan 4, 2012
TPMP wrote:
<quoted text> I certintly respect what you have to say.
You have earned it.
However, my opinion is that one will get chewed up on this board if you let them.
Thy take whatever you say and twist it up into something unrecognizable and are just plain foul and vicious.
I'm beyond the point of making nice...Nor do i have any intrest in making nice with APOSTATES.
You need to learn that if you plan on staying a witnees...These APOSTATES will suck you in eventually if you don't hold your ground.
Why are you defending Prime?..so you can be able to be peaceful with APOSTATES and opposers?
REALITY CHECK: These same people and their ilk and those with attitudes like them will be calling for your head one day when the time calls for it. It will happen, FN.
Do not delude yourself.
The people are ANIMALS.
NO. I will never aplogize to Prime or anyone else.
NEVER!..JAMAS!
What on earth for?...Does he act like a decent catholic??
"Respect is two way street"
I don't know these people and they don't know me nor have any effect whatsoever once i walk away from the computer. In the end..nobody here knows each other.
==========
I will handle it my way. You handle it your's.
I just felt i owed you that explanation and i did it and that's that.
.
Enjoy your evening.
Just another case of Jose trying to teach his grandma to suck eggs.
I bet you run with scissors and eat paste too.

“Psalms 47:1-9”

Since: Apr 11

Location hidden

#75 Jan 4, 2012
florida native wrote:
<quoted text>I am assuming you mean the WTS.
Read this months Awake.
It talks about suicide but instead of focusing on only Witnesses, it is focusing on EVERYONE.
While that is nice, it isn;'t addressing the problem amongst the JW's and has no program set up to help people.
The elders are ill equiped to handle it alone.

“Tight lines”

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#76 Jan 5, 2012
Old Lady Pam wrote:
<quoted text>While that is nice, it isn;'t addressing the problem amongst the JW's and has no program set up to help people.
The elders are ill equiped to handle it alone.
And that is exactly why the WTS suggests seeking a professional.
Shepparding Call

Wausau, WI

#77 Jan 5, 2012
florida native wrote:
<quoted text>
And that is exactly why the WTS suggests seeking a professional.
I think you're the 1st witness that showed some humbleness ,with the advice you gave JOSE ,even though hes not man enough to take your well given advice ,he will NEVER make a jws with that rebellious attitudes ...

I just wanted to tell you what a great job you did by your posting ..
Shepparding Call

Wausau, WI

#78 Jan 5, 2012
Old Lady Pam wrote:
<quoted text>While that is nice, it isn;'t addressing the problem amongst the JW's and has no program set up to help people.
The elders are ill equiped to handle it alone.
Jose will never make it as a witness ,with his perverted attitudes .

“Family comes First”

Since: May 11

Weston super Mare

#79 Jan 5, 2012
Our general sense of well being is dependent on how we view ourselves, how we view the world around us and how we view our future.

I suffered with depression in my teens. So I did as admonished and spent more time studying and knocking on doors as well as being prescribed Sanatogen nerve tonic.
Shepparding Call

Wausau, WI

#80 Jan 5, 2012
TPMP wrote:
<quoted text> I certintly respect what you have to say.
You have earned it.
However, my opinion is that one will get chewed up on this board if you let them.
Thy take whatever you say and twist it up into something unrecognizable and are just plain foul and vicious.
I'm beyond the point of making nice...Nor do i have any intrest in making nice with APOSTATES.
You need to learn that if you plan on staying a witnees...These APOSTATES will suck you in eventually if you don't hold your ground.
Why are you defending Prime?..so you can be able to be peaceful with APOSTATES and opposers?
REALITY CHECK: These same people and their ilk and those with attitudes like them will be calling for your head one day when the time calls for it. It will happen, FN.
Do not delude yourself.
The people are ANIMALS.
NO. I will never aplogize to Prime or anyone else.
NEVER!..JAMAS!
What on earth for?...Does he act like a decent catholic??
"Respect is two way street"
I don't know these people and they don't know me nor have any effect whatsoever once i walk away from the computer. In the end..nobody here knows each other.
==========
I will handle it my way. You handle it your's.
I just felt i owed you that explanation and i did it and that's that.
.
Enjoy your evening.
you will NEVER MAKE A JWs..never ...

NMB

Since: Dec 06

Location hidden

#81 Jan 5, 2012
Shepparding Call wrote:
<quoted text>
you will NEVER MAKE A JWs..never ...
Fortunately, for you, that's not your call.

Yes he can be abrasive. Yes his choice of words is troubling.

But then again several local brothers were just as abrasive, using the same sort of words.

However they applied God's word in their lives and MADE changes. So it can not be said "you will NEVER MAKE A JWs..never .." because WE never know!

“Tight lines”

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#82 Jan 5, 2012
NMB wrote:
<quoted text>
Fortunately, for you, that's not your call.
Yes he can be abrasive. Yes his choice of words is troubling.
But then again several local brothers were just as abrasive, using the same sort of words.
However they applied God's word in their lives and MADE changes. So it can not be said "you will NEVER MAKE A JWs..never .." because WE never know!
You beat me to the punch so... Ditto.

“BIBLE TRUTHS *NEVER* CHANGE”

Since: Aug 09

LET GO AND LET GOD

#83 Jan 5, 2012
NMB wrote:
<quoted text>
Fortunately, for you, that's not your call.
Yes he can be abrasive. Yes his choice of words is troubling.
But then again several local brothers were just as abrasive, using the same sort of words.
However they applied God's word in their lives and MADE changes. So it can not be said "you will NEVER MAKE A JWs..never .." because WE never know!
Concerning these brothers you referred to....are they really applying God's word in their lives when they are behaving in an arrogant, abrasive and/or condescending manner while presenting themselves as one who is a member of the ONLY true religion on the earth?

ARE they applying the Golden Rule, treating others as they would like to be treated?

Are they answering others in a peaceable way or using a soft answer to turn away wrath?

Are JWs bound to be under these same bible admonitions as any other bible believers are....or do you feel they are they exempt from these things?

Since: Aug 10

Location hidden

#84 Jan 5, 2012
A normal sex life? Please explain...hadn't heard of/been aware of that?
hMMMMM wrote:
hose that dare speak against the organization (such as myself, Christian Peper) are harassed and denigrated by the cult.
The question must be asked: Why do Jehovah Witness members commit suicide at a rate far exceeding the general population? There are many contributing factors to Watchtower society suicide.
Jehovah Witness society members must devote a large portion of their life to serving the organization. Many members feel that if the society is wrong then they would prefer death to life. The massive investment must not have been in vain. After spending a long time in the organization many feel they have missed out on the things that make life interesting and special. Long time Witnesses have given up friends, family, holidays, education and a normal sex life. Facing what they have done with their lives is hard, suicide is easy. A quick pain then paradise in the cleansed world. Why not do it?
What can the reader do? Never discount or ignore cries for help. It is absolutely vital that you warn your friends and neighbors about this cult. The life you save may be your own.
http://www.culthelp.info/index.php...
Very insightful
c

NMB

Since: Dec 06

Location hidden

#85 Jan 5, 2012
Nedoba wrote:
<quoted text>
Concerning these brothers you referred to....are they really applying God's word in their lives when they are behaving in an arrogant, abrasive and/or condescending manner while presenting themselves as one who is a member of the ONLY true religion on the earth?
ARE they applying the Golden Rule, treating others as they would like to be treated?
Are they answering others in a peaceable way or using a soft answer to turn away wrath?
Are JWs bound to be under these same bible admonitions as any other bible believers are....or do you feel they are they exempt from these things?
I guess I should have said BEFORE they became witnesses. I thought that was IMPLIED in what I wrote.

“New one man.”

Since: Jan 11

Location hidden

#86 Jan 5, 2012
Pat wrote:
<quoted text>I think FN is a very decent man never seen him be vulgar to others regardless of their religion views.
I agree. Even I. A heated discussion he make get a bit sarcastic, normal, but I have never seen him do such things. Also, and I think this is very important, if someone (me) says something wrong against him, he is the first to accept an apology. If one is going by the bible doesn't it link the two: getting forgiveness from God and having forgiven others?'forgive us our sins 'as' or 'for' we have forgiven...?

“BIBLE TRUTHS *NEVER* CHANGE”

Since: Aug 09

LET GO AND LET GOD

#87 Jan 5, 2012
NMB wrote:
<quoted text>
I guess I should have said BEFORE they became witnesses. I thought that was IMPLIED in what I wrote.
I apologize then....apparently I seem to have misunderstood what you wrote.

“New one man.”

Since: Jan 11

Location hidden

#88 Jan 5, 2012
Nedoba wrote:
<quoted text>
I apologize then....apparently I seem to have misunderstood what you wrote.
Yeah I think he meant before they became witnesses.
I think the difference is that most people who 'find the truth', usually make a significant change in their behavior. It is quite obvious. They don't typically say they have the truth and are changing their lives and then do the things we see certain people doing.

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