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There are no charities listed on watchtower.org

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#1 Mar 26, 2014
Why is that? You can go to a lot of other beliefs websites and they have links to charities, but the watchtower.org site doesn't have any hyperlinks to charities, why is that?

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#2 Mar 26, 2014

aadriver

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#3 Mar 27, 2014
Quite simply because they want their members to fully support their own organisation. They are happy to receive help from other charities but they and most members do not donate to other charities.

“Paradise Earth”

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#4 Mar 27, 2014
The Watchtower Society exists only for the purpose of aiding the preaching and teaching work that Jesus commanded of us.

If you want to help starving kids in Africa please give generously to one of the charities that exist only to do that.

No one is stopping you.

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#5 Mar 27, 2014
Matt9969 wrote:
http://www.csmonitor.com/Busin ess/Guide-to-Giving/America-s- Top-50-charities-How-well-do-t hey-rate
http://www.forbes.com/top-charities/list/
Thanks for the links. It was interesting to see that the salary of the highest paid official in the United Way was $763,394. Quite unlike the WTS where all the volunteers, from top officials to bottom person, have taken a vow of poverty in order to devote resources to the worldwide Bible education work.

Besides, the WTS is a charity. It's focus is knowledge based on the distribution of Bibles and Bible based literature.

:)
Snorkler

Johannesburg, South Africa

#6 Mar 27, 2014
Matt9969 wrote:
Why is that? You can go to a lot of other beliefs websites and they have links to charities, but the watchtower.org site doesn't have any hyperlinks to charities, why is that?
Because we are God fearing .
Matthew 6:2-4

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#7 Mar 27, 2014
Aneirin wrote:
The Watchtower Society exists only for the purpose of aiding the preaching and teaching work that Jesus commanded of us.
If you want to help starving kids in Africa please give generously to one of the charities that exist only to do that.
No one is stopping you.
There are tons of scriptures that tell us to assist the poor, the sick, the destitute. Why would the WTBS ignore them?!

Proverbs 19:17 Whoever is generous to the poor lends to the Lord, and he will repay him for his deed.

Psa. 82:3 Give fair judgment to the poor man, the afflicted, the fatherless, the destitute. Psa 82:4 Rescue the poor and helpless from the grasp of evil men.

Prov. 21:13 He who shuts his ears to the cries of the poor will be ignored in his own time of need.

Prov. 28:27 If you give to the poor, your needs will be supplied! But a curse upon those who close their eyes to poverty.

Prov. 22:9 Happy is the generous man, the one who feeds the poor.

Luke 3:11 "If you have two coats," he replied, "give one to the poor. If you have extra food, give it away to those who are hungry."

Mark 10:21 And Jesus, looking at him, loved him, and said to him,“You lack one thing: go, sell all that you have and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; and come, follow me.”

Mat. 22:39 The second most important is similar:'Love your neighbor as much as you love yourself.'

James 2:8 Yes indeed, it is good when you truly obey our Lord's command, "You must love and help your neighbors just as much as you love and take care of yourself."

Luke 10:36 "Now which of these three would you say was a neighbor to the bandits' victim?" Luke 10:37 The man replied, "The one who showed him some pity." Then Jesus said, "Yes, now go and do the same."

Isa. 58:10 "Feed the hungry! Help those in trouble! Then your light will shine out from the darkness, and the darkness around you shall be as bright as day.

Acts 20:35 In all things I have shown you that by working hard in this way we must help the weak and remember the words of the Lord Jesus, how he himself said,‘It is more blessed to give than to receive.’”

Its a foregone conclusion that we should be involved with charitable causes. Just placing magazines doesn't cut it, and just helping your own doesn't either.

Don't you think the WTBS would benefit by being a very visible giver to charity. I am sure that would open up people to your message.
Snorkler

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#8 Mar 27, 2014
Arkham Bravo wrote:
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There are tons of scriptures that tell us to assist the poor, the sick, the destitute. Why would the WTBS ignore them?!
Proverbs 19:17 Whoever is generous to the poor lends to the Lord, and he will repay him for his deed.
Psa. 82:3 Give fair judgment to the poor man, the afflicted, the fatherless, the destitute. Psa 82:4 Rescue the poor and helpless from the grasp of evil men.
Prov. 21:13 He who shuts his ears to the cries of the poor will be ignored in his own time of need.
Prov. 28:27 If you give to the poor, your needs will be supplied! But a curse upon those who close their eyes to poverty.
Prov. 22:9 Happy is the generous man, the one who feeds the poor.
Luke 3:11 "If you have two coats," he replied, "give one to the poor. If you have extra food, give it away to those who are hungry."
Mark 10:21 And Jesus, looking at him, loved him, and said to him,“You lack one thing: go, sell all that you have and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; and come, follow me.”
Mat. 22:39 The second most important is similar:'Love your neighbor as much as you love yourself.'
James 2:8 Yes indeed, it is good when you truly obey our Lord's command, "You must love and help your neighbors just as much as you love and take care of yourself."
Luke 10:36 "Now which of these three would you say was a neighbor to the bandits' victim?" Luke 10:37 The man replied, "The one who showed him some pity." Then Jesus said, "Yes, now go and do the same."
Isa. 58:10 "Feed the hungry! Help those in trouble! Then your light will shine out from the darkness, and the darkness around you shall be as bright as day.
Acts 20:35 In all things I have shown you that by working hard in this way we must help the weak and remember the words of the Lord Jesus, how he himself said,‘It is more blessed to give than to receive.’”
Its a foregone conclusion that we should be involved with charitable causes. Just placing magazines doesn't cut it, and just helping your own doesn't either.
Don't you think the WTBS would benefit by being a very visible giver to charity. I am sure that would open up people to your message.
When Jesus said this ,who was he speaking to ,was ti the WT or the GB or any other Organisation ?

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#9 Mar 27, 2014
Its astonishing that an organization that operates off of voluntary donations and volunteer labor, does not donate to charity. They give nothing back to the community except magazines!

And if they are worried about the money being misappropriated they should just start their own charity. They certainly have the resources!

“Paradise Earth”

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#10 Mar 27, 2014
Arkham Bravo wrote:
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There are tons of scriptures that tell us to assist the poor, the sick, the destitute. Why would the WTBS ignore them?!
Those scriptures are for the Christian congregation NOT the WTBS.

Therefore Jehovah's Witnesses as Christians strive to obey all those scriptures.

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#11 Mar 27, 2014
Snorkler wrote:
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When Jesus said this ,who was he speaking to ,was ti the WT or the GB or any other Organisation ?
You really want to go there? Your leaders think the New Testament is for the 144000 only and that Jesus is the mediator between them and God only. In fact nobody can fully understand the bible without help from the FDS.

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#12 Mar 27, 2014
Aneirin wrote:
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Those scriptures are for the Christian congregation NOT the WTBS.
Therefore Jehovah's Witnesses as Christians strive to obey all those scriptures.
Oh here we go with the word games again! Who is the christian congregation and who provides doctrinal and organizational leadership for them?

“Paradise Earth”

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#13 Mar 27, 2014
Arkham Bravo wrote:
Its astonishing that an organization that operates off of voluntary donations and volunteer labor, does not donate to charity. They give nothing back to the community except magazines!
And if they are worried about the money being misappropriated they should just start their own charity. They certainly have the resources!
This is crazy talk.

The Watchtower organization is a charitable organization. It was created to print Bibles and Bible based literature to help the preaching work commanded by Jesus.

Therefore if people want to contribute to help the preaching work commanded by Jesus they should donate to the Watchtower organization.

If, on the other hand, they want to donate so some other charitable cause then they are more than welcome to do so.

I don't see why you have a problem with that.

I mean do you harass the Gideon Bible Society because they don't fund homeless shelters, build hospitals, run food kitchens, feed kids in Africa, dispense medication to third world countries and boil eggs for the lost grandmother's association?

The truth is that spreading the good news is the most important work in the world and nothing helps people nearly as much. God promised to feed and look after those who put the good news of the Kingdom first in their life. So spreading the good news gives everyone a chance to benefit in Jehovah's blessings.

“New one man.”

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#14 Mar 27, 2014
If you want to donate to a worthy charity, use the Salvation Army. The people who run this org make considerably less money than a lot of them. Some of these people are making upwards of 500000.
Doctors without boarders is another excellent choice. They have peripheral groups that supply aid in emergencies. Check the salary of the head guy/gal, if they are making over 100k move on. If you are into cancer research, be very careful and check everything before you give you money to people like Susan G Komen. Any charity that says 'awareness' is more about pomp and advertising than research for cures and treatments. Find out how much of your money is going directly to the aid you want to give.

The org will point to these abusers, however, as they can never really give a good answer why they don't care about the immediate needs of people in earthquakes, hurricanes, tsunamis, etc. Their standard press release is that they help them with eternal life, which is more important.

When tragedy strikes they make some pomp about how they are there to help, but they fail to tell you they are there TO HELP OTHER JWS. and no one else. The only time you will see them distribute aid to ones other than JWs is if there is media around to embarrass them. Great effort has been made to make sure that publicity is present right off, so that more people can be helped, not just 'card carrying' jws.

“Paradise Earth”

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#15 Mar 27, 2014
Arkham Bravo wrote:
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There are tons of scriptures that tell us to assist the poor, the sick, the destitute. Why would the WTBS ignore them?!
And it is ABSURD you accuse the Watchtower Society of ignoring those scriptures. They do no such thing.

The Watchtower is a publishing house and is CONSTANTLY publishing magazines TEACHING people about those scriptures and about their scriptural responsibility to apply Christ's teachings in their lives and to try to be more like him.

“Paradise Earth”

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#16 Mar 27, 2014
Arkham Bravo wrote:
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Oh here we go with the word games again! Who is the christian congregation and who provides doctrinal and organizational leadership for them?
Jehovah's Witnesses are the Christian congregation and the Governing Body provide doctrinal and organizational leadership.

And, to that end, they are always teaching people to be more Christ like and to apply his teachings in their daily lives and they use the Watchtower publishing facilities to distribute this information.

“New one man.”

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#17 Mar 27, 2014
Aneirin; The truth is that spreading the good news is the most important work in the world and nothing helps people nearly as much. God promised to feed and look after those who put the good news of the Kingdom first in their life. So spreading the good news gives everyone a chance to benefit in Jehovah's blessings.

Told you.
If they don't live long enough to hear your great news, it doesn't do them any good.
There is no concern for starving children, or children who just want a blanket after some devastation. The jws refuse this help if you are not one of them or studying with them.

Wait on Jehovah, little child whose parents are under 20000lbs of concrete,
Wait on Jehovah, little child whose home has been washed away and she cannot find milk for her little sister.
Wait on Jehovah, little child who hasn't had clean water since the tsunami 6 days ago.
Wait on Jehovah, if you suffer more and die Jehovah is going to resurrect you, if your parents were deserving, otherwise you suffer and die for nothing.

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#18 Mar 27, 2014
360 Furman Street, sold in 2004 for $205 million;[90]

67 Livingston Street,(nicknamed the Sliver)[91] sold in 2006 for $18.6 million.[90]

89 Hicks Street, sold in 2006 for $14 million.[90]

Standish Arms Hotel, 169 Columbia Heights, sold in 2007 for $50 million.[92]

183 Columbia Heights, bought in 1986, offered for sale in 2007 and sold in April 2012 for $6.6 million.[89][93][94]

161 Columbia Heights, bought in 1988, offered for sale in 2007 and sold in March 2012 for $3 million.[89][93]

165 Columbia Heights, offered for sale in 2007 and sold in January 2012 for $4.1 million.[89][95]

105 Willow Street, offered for sale in 2007 and sold in April 2012 for $3.3 million.[89][96]

34 Orange Street, offered for sale in 2007 and sold in November 2012 for $2,825,000.[89][97]

Bossert Hotel, 98 Montague Street, bought in 1983,[69] offered for sale in 2008.[76] sold in 2012 to a hotel developer, Rosewood Realty Group, for $81 million.[98][99]

50 Orange Street, bought in 1988, renovated to sell 2006, and sold in December 2011 for $7.1 million.[100]

67 Remsen Street, offered for sale in July 2012,[101] and sold the same year for $3.25 million.[102]

Three adjoining properties (173 Front Street, 177 Front Street and 200 Water Street) sold together for 30.6 million in April 2013 to Urban Realty Partners.[103][104]

55 Furman Street, 400,000 sq. ft., is for sale as of June 2013.[105]

Five adjoining properties (175 Pearl Street, 55 Prospect Street, 81
Prospect Street, 117 Adams Street, and 77 Sands Street totaling 700,000 sq. ft.), offered for sale in September 2011,[106][107] under contract as of July 2013 to a three company buy-out. A sixth building (90 Sands Street, about 500,000 sq. ft., a 505 room, 30 story building) in this sale will be released in 2017, after the scheduled completion of the Jehovah's Witnesses' new headquarters in Warwick, NY.Two private parking lots are for sale as of June 2013.[105]

The WTBS will make $375 million of the sale of these 5 properties alone!

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#19 Mar 27, 2014
In other words Aneirin, they should fill their bellies with pages of magazines, and make a bed out of the magazines, and cover their bodies with the pages of the magazines and build a home with magazines?
Charities help people when they are down, when they have lost everything. Giving them food, clothing, a warm bed to sleep in is what Jesus would expect us to do first. Then tell them about Jesus and what he did for you and so many others, they are more likely to listen when they are full and warm. Witnessing to others is a very important thing to do, but we have to care about their other needs as well. A man who is hungry, wet and cold is not going to be very receptive about a magazine.

“New one man.”

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#20 Mar 27, 2014
Aneirin: If, on the other hand, they want to donate so some other charitable cause then they are more than welcome to do so.

This is misleading, yes they are free to do so and will likely do it in private so the org does not know, if they do it at all.

The reason for this is they have been discouraged from doing so.
The org wants the donations. They don't really want to share.

Nearly every time the org talks about secular charities, it is followed up with a warning about evil and how charities cannot solve the worlds problems.

There is nothing wrong with spreading your 'good news', just give them a blanket and bottle of water while the authorities try to locate their loved ones under rubble from an earthquake, or in makeshift hospitals following a tsunami.

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