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“Family comes First”

Since: May 11

Weston super Mare

#1 Sep 5, 2013
I was 7 years old when my parents first got involved with JW's, so when momma told me in my 40's when I protested against disfellowshipping, "You knew the score when you left" I retorted "Yes, but it wasn't my decision to join, I was a child, I had no choice".

“Paradise Earth”

Since: Sep 11

Location hidden

#2 Sep 5, 2013
To be honest it doesn't matter because it /is/ the truth that you left. The fact that you don't believe that makes no difference.

One day soon you may well come to know that for a fact and you will be please for your family that stayed true to the Bible.

“Life is short, enjoy life.:-).”

Since: Aug 13

Iraq

#3 Sep 5, 2013
Aneirin wrote:
To be honest it doesn't matter because it /is/ the truth that you left. The fact that you don't believe that makes no difference.
One day soon you may well come to know that for a fact and you will be please for your family that stayed true to the Bible.
To be honest it doesn't matter because it /is/ the lie that you live in. The fact that you don't believe that makes no difference.
One day soon you come to know that for a fact and you will be please for your family that they left the deceiving organization of JW.
Stan

Colorado Springs, CO

#4 Sep 5, 2013
I always found it interesting that since the watchtower worshippers can't just come out and say they follow the watchtower, they have to come up with a catchword/catch phrase... The Truth.

Catchword- "a memorable or effective word or phrase that is repeated so often that it becomes a slogan, as in a political campaign or in advertising a product."

Funny that no matter how many lies they end up teaching over the years, and changes in doctrines they have made, they always think of it as "the truth."

It also is a primary factor in identifying one of the major techniques used by cults for Thought Control. Over time it becomes little more than a cliche' since it has no foundation in fact.

But don't try to convince a cultist of that.

“Family comes First”

Since: May 11

Weston super Mare

#5 Sep 5, 2013
Stan wrote:
I always found it interesting that since the watchtower worshippers can't just come out and say they follow the watchtower, they have to come up with a catchword/catch phrase... The Truth.
Catchword- "a memorable or effective word or phrase that is repeated so often that it becomes a slogan, as in a political campaign or in advertising a product."
Funny that no matter how many lies they end up teaching over the years, and changes in doctrines they have made, they always think of it as "the truth."
It also is a primary factor in identifying one of the major techniques used by cults for Thought Control. Over time it becomes little more than a cliche' since it has no foundation in fact.
But don't try to convince a cultist of that.
That's right, they deal in slogans and catchphrases.

Best one was "Do you think you will ever turn back to Jehovah?"

Standard reply went along the lines that I had no problem with Jehovah, it was just his fan club in Brooklyn that i had issues with.

Cue mouths dropping open, aghast exclamations, you know the sort of thing.

“God Saves, Watchtower Lies”

Since: Nov 12

Ashland, OH

#6 Sep 5, 2013
Mikronboy wrote:
I was 7 years old when my parents first got involved with JW's, so when momma told me in my 40's when I protested against disfellowshipping, "You knew the score when you left" I retorted "Yes, but it wasn't my decision to join, I was a child, I had no choice".
The Watchtower Society runs a cult. All cult leaders want power over their subjects.

To them, it doesn't matter that you were forced into the cult, all that matters is that you freed yourself from their evil grip so you are to be hated.

“God Saves, Watchtower Lies”

Since: Nov 12

Ashland, OH

#7 Sep 5, 2013
Aneirin wrote:
To be honest it doesn't matter because it /is/ the truth that you left.
More typical dub blasphemy, equating themselves with Jesus Christ.
little lamb

Collingwood, Australia

#8 Sep 5, 2013
Jesus says ' He is the TRUTH.'

So the problem with a person who promotes a sect..is they tend to think the 'sect' is the TRUTH..and not the person of Christ.
art

London, UK

#9 Sep 5, 2013
Most politicians tell lies and probably would not survive or even get elected if they did not
Who is going to vote for someone who says Well now not much i can do to help you really

JW have to promise all kinds of rewards or why would anyone go out door knocking
So they are fed paradise and everlasting life, all nonsense of course, but what a great scam if you can get people to believe it and work for free, and its for Jehovah not the watchtower,they are told

Why people are stupid enough to allow themselves to be exploited in this way is a mystery

all I can say is their are certainly some Dumb Mothers about
gonzo

New Glasgow, Canada

#10 Sep 5, 2013
Baptized as a minor, I was DF’D as an adult. Yes, I knew the “consequences” but that does not mean I agreed with them. I left a man-originated, man-led, man-made organization, no different from any Corp, like Amway, Kellogg’s or Heinz, all with something to sell.

The decision to leave my family (over 30 years ago) was made for me, imposed, by someone else, a third party. Little men enforcing their rules, playing God, buying into dreams of Utopia, who can’t think or reason for themselves (forbidden), while clinging to an ancient text, whose authors believed the world was flat.

While they play with dogma, interpretations, predictions, rules, judgments, penalties, bigotry, and discrimination…many, many families spend this short life apart, because someone said so.

Such sad, wasteful, enraging nonsense.

Since: Jan 09

Location hidden

#11 Sep 5, 2013
Aneirin wrote:
To be honest it doesn't matter because it /is/ the truth that you left. The fact that you don't believe that makes no difference.
One day soon you may well come to know that for a fact and you will be please for your family that stayed true to the Bible.
You're always promoting JWism, Gareth, but you never fellowship with JWs or got baptized into the faith. Seems that you are like the cigarette salesperson who promotes smoking, but being aware of the dangers of tobacco smoke, doesn't smoke himself.
jace

Upper Marlboro, MD

#12 Sep 5, 2013
Stan wrote:
I always found it interesting that since the watchtower worshippers can't just come out and say they follow the watchtower, they have to come up with a catchword/catch phrase... The Truth.

Catchword- "a memorable or effective word or phrase that is repeated so often that it becomes a slogan, as in a political campaign or in advertising a product."

Funny that no matter how many lies they end up teaching over the years, and changes in doctrines they have made, they always think of it as "the truth."

It also is a primary factor in identifying one of the major techniques used by cults for Thought Control. Over time it becomes little more than a cliche' since it has no foundation in fact.

But don't try to convince a cultist of that.
Bingo

Call every goofy dogma the truth and its all good now
Is the mindset
jace

Upper Marlboro, MD

#13 Sep 5, 2013
Admiral Kolchak wrote:
<quoted text>You're always promoting JWism, Gareth, but you never fellowship with JWs or got baptized into the faith. Seems that you are like the cigarette salesperson who promotes smoking, but being aware of the dangers of tobacco smoke, doesn't smoke himself.
Ultimate hypocrite I saw

Since: Jan 12

Location hidden

#14 Sep 6, 2013
does aneirin really believe its the truth, or is he just doing his job?

i know that after talking to mr third for a while i've realized that he is just making up lies to try to fool everyone cause he has a vested interest.

imagine having that much bible knowledge, but using it to fool people for your own selfish interest... yuk!!!

i guess thats why jesus called the pharisees snakes, vipers, white washed graves, murderers killers of the prophets of old

Since: Aug 09

Bedfordshire, England

#15 Sep 6, 2013
Aneirin wrote:
To be honest it doesn't matter because it /is/ the truth that you left. The fact that you don't believe that makes no difference.
One day soon you may well come to know that for a fact and you will be please for your family that stayed true to the Bible.
Firstly if he was a child when he joined he most certainly cannot be held responsible for not staying with the religion. Also if he was dipped before 1985 there was no agreement to follow the organisation. They changed the baptism questions in that year then so as to help get rid of witnesses who disagree with them over doctrine.

“Paradise Earth”

Since: Sep 11

Location hidden

#16 Sep 6, 2013
aadriver wrote:
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Firstly if he was a child when he joined he most certainly cannot be held responsible for not staying with the religion. Also if he was dipped before 1985 there was no agreement to follow the organisation. They changed the baptism questions in that year then so as to help get rid of witnesses who disagree with them over doctrine.
None of that changes what is or what is not true.

Either poor Micronboy was hard done by OR he has really screwed up badly and his family did everything they could to protect him.

Either way, no point crying about it now. We'll all find out which is which soon enough.

Since: Aug 09

Bedfordshire, England

#17 Sep 6, 2013
Aneirin wrote:
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None of that changes what is or what is not true.
Either poor Micronboy was hard done by OR he has really screwed up badly and his family did everything they could to protect him.
Either way, no point crying about it now. We'll all find out which is which soon enough.
Anyone who gets pressured into getting baptised early is likely to have problems as they grow up. Micronboy is not crying over anything he is simply stating what happened to him.

Why do you think they changed that baptism question about agreeing to work with the spirit directed organisation?

“Family comes First”

Since: May 11

Weston super Mare

#18 Sep 6, 2013
Aneirin wrote:
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None of that changes what is or what is not true.
Either poor Micronboy was hard done by OR he has really screwed up badly and his family did everything they could to protect him.
Either way, no point crying about it now. We'll all find out which is which soon enough.
Tsk. Erm, no. No squinnying from me Sunshine, just telling what happened. Sort of one of many life experiences I'm happy to relate.

What we are today is the sum of our life experiences IMHO. Plus how we deal with them. I just made up for lost time, married a beautiful woman, had 3 fine sons, learned to play several sports and made lots of friends who don't sit in judgement on everything and everyone.

The loss of family was eventually minimised when the WT flip-flopped re DF'd people. When they flip-flopped back again, my parents didn't flip-flop.

Cool!

Since: Aug 09

Bedfordshire, England

#19 Sep 6, 2013
Mikronboy wrote:
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Tsk. Erm, no. No squinnying from me Sunshine, just telling what happened. Sort of one of many life experiences I'm happy to relate.
What we are today is the sum of our life experiences IMHO. Plus how we deal with them. I just made up for lost time, married a beautiful woman, had 3 fine sons, learned to play several sports and made lots of friends who don't sit in judgement on everything and everyone.
The loss of family was eventually minimised when the WT flip-flopped re DF'd people. When they flip-flopped back again, my parents didn't flip-flop.
Cool!
To a JW anyone who tells their expierence as a witness is crying and bitter. I was just listening to a radio programme that is available on JWN and an ex witness simply told his expierence of being a witness and witnesses phoned in saying he was just bitter and telling lies. lol
unsurejwdude

UK

#20 Sep 6, 2013
aadriver wrote:
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To a JW anyone who tells their expierence as a witness is crying and bitter. I was just listening to a radio programme that is available on JWN and an ex witness simply told his expierence of being a witness and witnesses phoned in saying he was just bitter and telling lies. lol
From what I've read and watched etc I've seen people who are really bitter when they've left the org. I'd say there more bitter than alit of other people who leave other religions. Maybe its all the pressure and people snap plus the constant judgements from others. And jws who stay don't want others to know what its really like. Just my opinion

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