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Is the new world translation full of errors

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Pat

Rockford, IL

#1 Apr 3, 2013
Jehovah’s Witnesses claim that the New World Translation (NWT) is the “work of competent scholars.” Conversely, they contend that other Bible translations are corrupted by religious traditions that are rooted in paganism. In reality, the NWT is the work of a Bible Translation Committee with no working knowledge of biblical languages. Their bias is so blatant that Dr. Bruce Metzger, professor of New Testament at Princeton, not only characterized the NWT as a “frightful mistranslation” but as “erroneous,”“pernicious,” and “reprehensible.”

First, the NWT mistranslates the Greek Scriptures in order to expunge the deity of Jesus Christ. Against all credible scholarship, Jesus is downgraded from God to “a” god in John 1 and demoted from the Creator of all things to a mere creature who created all other things in Colossians 1. According to the translation committee of the Watchtower Society, Jesus was created by God as the archangel Michael, during his earthly sojourn was merely human, and after his crucifixion was recreated an immaterial spirit creature.

Furthermore, the Translation Committee has sought to conform the NWT to their religious traditions by replacing the cross of Christ with a torture stake. Matthew 10:38, for example, has been altered to read,“And whoever does not accept his torture stake and follow after me is not worthy of me.” In Watchtower lore, the cross is a pagan symbol adopted by an apostate Christianity when Satan took control of the early church. Jehovah’s Witnesses view wearing a cross as a blatant act of idolatry. Conversely, Christians wear crosses as a reminder of what was at once the most brutal and beautiful act in redemptive history.

Finally, the Watchtower Society claims that the Christian Scriptures have “been tampered with” in order to eliminate the name Jehovah from the text. In reality, it is the Translation Committee of the NWT that can rightly be accused of tampering. In well over two hundred cases the name Jehovah has been gratuitously inserted into the New Testament text. In passages such as Romans 10:13 this is done to obscure the unique deity of Christ. In other passages, it is done under the pretext that referring to God as Lord rather than Jehovah is patently pagan. Ironically, in The Kingdom Interlinear Translation of the Greek Scriptures, Watchtower translators themselves fall into this “pagan” practice by translating the Greek word kurios as Lord even in cases where it specifically refers to the Father.

For these and a host of other reasons, Greek scholars across the board denounce the NWT. Dr. Julius Mantey, author of A Manual Grammar of the Greek New Testament, called the NWT a “shocking mistranslation,” and Dr. William Barclay characterized the translators themselves as “intellectually dishonest.”
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Pat

Rockford, IL

#2 Apr 3, 2013
Dr. J. R. Mantey (who is quoted on pages 1158-1159) of the Witnesses own Kingdom interlinear Translation): "A shocking mistranslation." "Obsolete and incorrect." "It is neither scholarly nor reasonable to translate John 1:1 'The Word was a god.'"
Dr. Bruce M. Metzger of Princeton (Professor of New Testament Language and Literature): "A frightful mistranslation." "Erroneous" and "pernicious" "reprehensible". "If the Jehovah's Witnesses take this translation seriously, they are polytheists."
Dr. Samuel J. Mikolaski of Zurich, Switzerland: "This anarthrous (used without the article) construction does not mean what the indefinite article 'a' means in English. It is monstrous to translate the phrase 'the Word was a god.'"
Dr. Paul L. Kaufman of Portland, Oregon: "The Jehovah's Witnesses people evidence an abysmal ignorance of the basic tenets of Greek grammar in their mistranslation of John 1:1."
Dr. Charles L. Feinberg of La Mirada, California: "I can assure you that the rendering which the Jehovah's Witnesses give John 1:1 is not held by any reputable Greek scholar."
Dr. James L. Boyer of Winona Lake, Indiana: "I have never heard of, or read of any Greek Scholar who would have agreed to the interpretation of this verse insisted upon by the Jehovah's Witnesses...I have never encountered one of them who had any knowledge of the Greek language."
Dr. William Barclay of the University of Glasgow, Scotland: "The deliberate distortion of truth by this sect is seen in their New testament translations. John 1:1 is translated:'...the Word was a god,' a translation which is grammatically impossible...It is abundantly clear that a sect which can translate the New Testament like that is intellectually dishonest."
Dr. F. F. Bruce of the University of Manchester, England: "Much is made by Arian amateur grammarians of the omission of the definite article with 'God' in the phrase 'And the Word was God.' Such an omission is common with nouns in a predicative construction...'a god' would be totally indefensible." [Barclay and Bruce are generally regarded as Great Britain's leading Greek scholars. Both have New Testament translations in print!]
Dr. Ernest C. Colwell of the University of Chicago: "A definite predicate nominative has the article when it follows the verb; it does not have the article when it precedes the verb...this statement cannot be regarded as strange in the prologue of the gospel which reaches its climax in the confession of Thomas.'My Lord and my God.'- John 20:28"
Dr. Phillip B. Harner of Heidelberg College: "The verb preceding an anarthrous predicate, would probably mean that the LOGOS was 'a god' or a divine being of some kind, belonging to the general category of THEOS but as a distinct being from HO THEOS. In the form that John actually uses, the word "THEOS" is places at the beginning for emphasis."
Dr. J. Johnson of California State University, Long Beach: "No justification whatsoever for translating THEOS EN HO LOGOS as 'the Word was a god.' There is no syntactical parallel to Acts 28:6 where there is a statement in indirect discourse; John 1:1 is direct....I am neither a Christian nor a trinitarian."
Dr. Eugene A. Nida, head of Translations Department, American Bible Society: "With regard to John 1:1, there is of course a complication simply because the New World Translation was apparently done by persons who did not take seriously the syntax of the Greek." [Responsible for the Good News Bible - The committee worked under him.]
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sonny

Suva, Fiji

#3 Apr 4, 2013
Ask JWs if they have heard of Westcott, Hort and Johannes Greber.
jackie

Southampton, PA

#4 Apr 4, 2013
"Very Interestting indeed" Pat.

“Truth is where you find it”

Since: Jun 11

Milton, PA

#5 Apr 4, 2013
The NWT is not "full" of errors. No more so than any other bible. Ask King James bible lovers if they've heard of Wescott and Hort. Greber had nothing to do with the NWT bible, that I am aware of.

The world is full of haters, and opinions ...... truth???....not so much. You folks are full of opinion, and so are those being quoted. The problem is, they are just as corrupt as the Watchtower Society. How about you? are you corrupt?

sidgi
little lamb

Maribyrnong, Australia

#6 Apr 4, 2013
All scripture is inspired of God...

use what ever translation you feel comfortable with..

because if you have exercised faith in Jesus Christ , the helper the Holy Spirit leads us into all truth..

This thread is just an exercise in trying to throw doubt on Holy Scripture...
Capitan Mierda

Monticello, NY

#7 Apr 4, 2013
From the New World translation committee:

You may need to stand up for yourself or your rights in some way today. The good news is that you'll find just the right words and manner in which to do it, so that you are heard loud and clear without offending anyone. Even with your natural ability with words, it's not always easy to tell someone about a mistake they've made or an issue they are overlooking without causing ruffled feathers. Today you have that diplomatic knack. The issue at stake could be something of an official or financial nature.
UNchained

Louisville, TN

#8 Apr 4, 2013
little lamb wrote:
All scripture is inspired of God...
use what ever translation you feel comfortable with..
because if you have exercised faith in Jesus Christ , the helper the Holy Spirit leads us into all truth..
This thread is just an exercise in trying to throw doubt on Holy Scripture...
The New World Translation was produced by the leaders of an apostate church.

Therefore, it is the product of apostasy.
UNchained

Louisville, TN

#9 Apr 4, 2013
little lamb wrote:
All scripture is inspired of God...
use what ever translation you feel comfortable with..
because if you have exercised faith in Jesus Christ , the helper the Holy Spirit leads us into all truth..
This thread is just an exercise in trying to throw doubt on Holy Scripture...
This thread is exposing spiritual darkness that the New World Translation is wrapped in.

There are many good bible translations available.

The New World Translation is not one of them.

It is an apostate work of errors and mistranslation.

You can believe in your demented mind that anyone who exposes it

for the apostasy it promotes is trying to throw doubt on Holy

Scripture but that is just another one of your many demonic lies.

“Truth is where you find it”

Since: Jun 11

Milton, PA

#10 Apr 4, 2013
UNchained wrote:
<quoted text>
The New World Translation was produced by the leaders of an apostate church.
Therefore, it is the product of apostasy.
I guess that you consider all bibles the product of apostasy, then.

sidgi
little lamb

Maribyrnong, Australia

#11 Apr 4, 2013
UNchained wrote:
<quoted text>
The New World Translation was produced by the leaders of an apostate church.
Therefore, it is the product of apostasy.
All scripture is INSPIRED of God.

You calling Gods word a lie..???

It does not say as you are erroneously saying "all scripture is not inspired of God , only those "unchained" picks for you are..."
UNchained

Louisville, TN

#12 Apr 4, 2013
A few years ago when I was out in Field service, a nonJW very accurately described the New World Translation to me as spiritual pornography.

I was very disturbed about the remark until I found out the truth about the Watchtower's apostate bible.

“Truth is where you find it”

Since: Jun 11

Milton, PA

#13 Apr 4, 2013
UNchained wrote:
A few years ago when I was out in Field service, a nonJW very accurately described the New World Translation to me as spiritual pornography.
I was very disturbed about the remark until I found out the truth about the Watchtower's apostate bible.
Then don't look into the history of other bibles too deeply, I wouldn't want you to lose sleep.

sidgi
little lamb

Maribyrnong, Australia

#14 Apr 4, 2013
UNchained wrote:
A few years ago when I was out in Field service, a nonJW very accurately described the New World Translation to me as spiritual pornography.
I was very disturbed about the remark until I found out the truth about the Watchtower's apostate bible.
That explains a lot ...seeing as you allowed an outside influence to convince you scripture of God is pornography..sick unchained...
UNchained

Louisville, TN

#15 Apr 4, 2013
little lamb wrote:
<quoted text>
All scripture is INSPIRED of God.
You calling Gods word a lie..???
It does not say as you are erroneously saying "all scripture is not inspired of God , only those "unchained" picks for you are..."
Pay attention:

1. There are many good bible translations available.

2. There are many good bible translations available.

3. There are many good bible translations available.

4. There are many good bible translations available.

5. There are many good bible translations available.

6. There are many good bible translations available.

7. There are many good bible translations available.

The New World Translation is not one of them.

It is an apostate work of errors and mistranslation.

You can believe in your demented mind that anyone who exposes it

for the apostasy it promotes is trying to throw doubt on Holy

Scripture but that is just another one of your many demonic lies.
little lamb

Brunswick West, Australia

#16 Apr 4, 2013
UNchained wrote:
<quoted text>
Pay attention:
1. There are many good bible translations available.
2. There are many good bible translations available.
3. There are many good bible translations available.
4. There are many good bible translations available.
5. There are many good bible translations available.
6. There are many good bible translations available.
7. There are many good bible translations available.
The New World Translation is not one of them.
It is an apostate work of errors and mistranslation.
You can believe in your demented mind that anyone who exposes it
for the apostasy it promotes is trying to throw doubt on Holy
Scripture but that is just another one of your many demonic lies.
1 All scripture is inspired of God
2 all SCRIPTURE is inspired of God
3 All scripture IS inspired of God
4 All scripture is INSPIRED of God
5 ALL scripture is inspired OF God
6 All scripture is inspired of GOD
7 ALL SCRIPTURE IS INSPIRED OF GOD

The NEW WORLD TRANSLATION is scripture...and is included in the ALL..not like you are trying to say by supplanting Gods word "ALL" with ' SOME"..

Supplanting the word of God with your own demonic lie.
UNchained

Louisville, TN

#17 Apr 4, 2013
A few years ago when I was out in Field service, a nonJW very accurately described the New World Translation to me as spiritual pornography.

I was very disturbed about the remark until I found out the truth about the Watchtower's apostate bible.
little lamb wrote:
<quoted text>
That explains a lot ...seeing as you allowed an outside influence to convince you scripture of God is pornography..sick unchained...
I was disturbed because I believed that the New World Translation was the best bible translation available to mankind because it had been inspired by Jehovah.

It was at least 20 years after I heard the remark that I found out the truth about the Watchtower's apostate bible.

I found out the truth about the Watchtower's apostate New World Translation when I carefully compared it with the 1985 Edition of the Kingdom Interlinear Translation of the Greek Scriptures rendered from the original Greek language by the New World Bible Translation Committee.

That's right little lamb, the Watchtower Society's OWN Kingdom Interlinear Translation of the Greek Scriptures provides all the proof anyone needs to find out the truth about the Watchtower's apostate New World Translation.

The Watchtower society's own publications provide all the proof one needs to expose their sataic doctrines and their demon inspired apostate bible.
UNchained

Louisville, TN

#18 Apr 4, 2013
little lamb wrote:
<quoted text>
1 All scripture is inspired of God
2 all SCRIPTURE is inspired of God
3 All scripture IS inspired of God
4 All scripture is INSPIRED of God
5 ALL scripture is inspired OF God
6 All scripture is inspired of GOD
7 ALL SCRIPTURE IS INSPIRED OF GOD
The NEW WORLD TRANSLATION is scripture...and is included in the ALL..not like you are trying to say by supplanting Gods word "ALL" with ' SOME"..
Supplanting the word of God with your own demonic lie.
I certainly agree that all Scripture is inspired of God.

The New World Translation is not Scripture.

It is spiritual pornography that is designed to mislead gullible people like you.

The Watchtower Society's OWN Kingdom Interlinear Translation of the Greek Scriptures provides all the proof anyone needs to find out the truth about the Watchtower's apostate New World Translation.
Pat

Rockford, IL

#19 Apr 4, 2013
Before you make the decision to become one of Jehovah's Witnesses REALIZE To support their doctrines, the Society will even give you their own version of the Bible, called the New World Translation. You will be told that it is the most accurate bible in the world, but please realize that many scriptures in their bible have been altered to fit their doctrine. For example, compare these verses in their bible with any other bible: John 1:1; John 17:3; Philippians 1:23; Colossians 1: 16; Hebrews 1:8, and many more. Instead of making their doctrines fit the bible, they simply altered the scriptures

http://www.spiritwatch.org/whajwwon.htm

by Gary and Lisa Ferguson (former Jehovah's Witnesses)

Since: Jun 12

Location hidden

#20 Apr 4, 2013
Pat wrote:
Jehovah’s Witnesses claim that the New World Translation (NWT) is the “work of competent scholars.” Conversely, they contend that other Bible translations are corrupted by religious traditions that are rooted in paganism. In reality, the NWT is the work of a Bible Translation Committee with no working knowledge of biblical languages. Their bias is so blatant that Dr. Bruce Metzger, professor of New Testament at Princeton, not only characterized the NWT as a “frightful mistranslation” but as “erroneous,”“pernicious,” and “reprehensible.”
First, the NWT mistranslates the Greek Scriptures in order to expunge the deity of Jesus Christ.
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Hi Pat

Just thought that this view(partial quote) from a person who is not a JW would interest you. The web site: http://www.jesus-is-lord.com/nivdelet.htm

"Which Bible verses did the NIV delete?

Several readers have asked me this question so I thought it worthwhile to include my response here. Please note that these are only WHOLE verses that the NIV deletes. This list does not include the many words and phrases that were completely deleted from the NIV--it deletes over 64,000 words including words like mercyseat, Jehovah, and Godhead. It removes meaningful, well-known Bible words like Calvary, Lucifer, new testament, regeneration, etc. Most of the modern Bibles line up very closely with the NIV--and so does the New World Translation--the Bible of the Jehovah's Witnesses which predates the NIV!

……….

Another update! I just opened the JW "Bible", the New World Translation (1961 ed.), and looked up all the verses that the NIV completely deletes. THE JEHOVAH'S WITNESS BIBLE DELETES THE EXACT SAME ONES!!!! I mean ALL of them! The only difference between the NIV and the New World Translation deletions is that the JW Bible does not include any footnotes! Isn't that what I said above, that the NIV would eventually delete the footnotes? To learn more about the Jehovah's Witnesses and their damnable doctrines go to our article on cults."

I appears to me that this person believes that other Bibles besides the NWT are full of errors. Indeed, the writer states that the NWT came out first -- is he implying that the other Bibles were following the NWT?

I see that you did an extensive CNP -- careful with these as there is generally more to the quotes. If you want a few examples I would be happy to oblige.

Any comments

All the Best

Dave

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