Who ,and is not a "real" JW?
Michellee1966

Antigo, WI

#126 Oct 14, 2012
jacqie wrote:
I do not believe that there are many True JW's posting here. Maybe a few
Too many players on here claiming to be, but prove other wise.
I tend to agree with you on this one jackie, The Jw's that I know would NEVER EVER speak or post like this I have seen here, much rather even come to a site such as this.

Even though I may Not agree with the falsified teachings, I still have much LOVE for SOME of the brothers and sisters I find really do love God and are scared for one reason or another to leave.

I have a few Elderly sisters and brothers whom I keep in contact with and are very very loving and kind people..

Not to ever get mixed with the evil ones claiming to be JW's on this site..

“Surprised By Love”

Since: Aug 12

Location hidden

#127 Oct 14, 2012
I agree Michelle, there are many nice (if misguided) Jehovah's Witnesses. Very few here though. Its always amazing to me when people post in defence of a religion, and in doing so go against every thing that religion teaches, even the basic fact that they should not be on a forum like this.
Defending a supposedly Christian religion, but acting in a most unchristian way, defeats the purpose and makes your words meaningless.
It appears to me that most are just venting anger and trying to make themselves feel better by calling names and putting others down. And I have seen that on both sides pro and anti JW.
When I read posts like that, I think of the Peanuts cartoons, whenever an adult speaks its wan wa, wan wa, wan wa. That is about how meaningful these hate spewing, name calling posts are.

Since: Mar 09

United States

#128 Oct 14, 2012
I want to say, I do not really care what anyone else believes when it comes to religion. Its one's own personal choice to choose as they wish. I like to share what I have learned of the Bible, but if someone agrees with what I say, thats fine. If they do not, thats okay too. Any person believes their religion is the "right" one...it just goes with the territory. However, it just seems that some seem to resent it, if we say JW's are. Thats what gets me.

“Surprised By Love”

Since: Aug 12

Location hidden

#129 Oct 14, 2012
Nomi wrote:
I want to say, I do not really care what anyone else believes when it comes to religion. Its one's own personal choice to choose as they wish. I like to share what I have learned of the Bible, but if someone agrees with what I say, thats fine. If they do not, thats okay too. Any person believes their religion is the "right" one...it just goes with the territory. However, it just seems that some seem to resent it, if we say JW's are. Thats what gets me.
Of course everyone has a right to their beliefs. But those people you talk to out in service mostly already have a religion that is important to them. And your message is that their religion is totally wrong and Jehovah is going to destroy them at Armageddon if they don't convert to the Jehovah's Witness religion. While you may tone it down out in the door to door work, that is your message, and people do know that and yes, people resent it. It's the attitude that you are somehow better than they are. It's obnoxious.

Would you want a southern Baptist knocking on your door and telling you that you will go to hell if you don't convert to them? You would be offended, and rightly so.

Since: Nov 09

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#130 Oct 15, 2012
Nomi wrote:
I want to say, I do not really care what anyone else believes when it comes to religion. Its one's own personal choice to choose as they wish. I like to share what I have learned of the Bible, but if someone agrees with what I say, thats fine. If they do not, thats okay too. Any person believes their religion is the "right" one...it just goes with the territory. However, it just seems that some seem to resent it, if we say JW's are. Thats what gets me.
Nomi, what gets most of us is that they will tell us that if we do not believe as they do, we are going to die a horrible death at Armageddon. They tell us that we MUST be a JW to be saved. All I want is for one of you to show me from the BIBLE where it says that. Can you show me where it says that?

Since: Mar 09

United States

#131 Oct 15, 2012
The thing about that Karen, is that every religion says that about all other religions. All of them say they are right, and we are not. We did not originate that idea.

“New one man.”

Since: Jan 11

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#132 Oct 15, 2012
Nomi wrote:
The thing about that Karen, is that every religion says that about all other religions. All of them say they are right, and we are not. We did not originate that idea.
Every other religion does not do that. There are actually very few that do.

“Christmas ONLY for Christians!”

Since: Sep 12

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#133 Oct 15, 2012
Nomi wrote:
Seems there are a lot of "judges" here. Lets clear the air once and for all. Are you a JW? If so, say so. If not, stop "judging" those who are.
You keep drinking the poison and I'll keep telling you that it's poison.

“Christmas ONLY for Christians!”

Since: Sep 12

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#134 Oct 15, 2012
Nomi wrote:
I want to say, I do not really care what anyone else believes when it comes to religion. Its one's own personal choice to choose as they wish. I like to share what I have learned of the Bible, but if someone agrees with what I say, thats fine. If they do not, thats okay too. Any person believes their religion is the "right" one...it just goes with the territory. However, it just seems that some seem to resent it, if we say JW's are. Thats what gets me.
Then why did you start this stupid thread?

Did you just want to whine?

Since: Nov 09

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#135 Oct 16, 2012
Nomi wrote:
The thing about that Karen, is that every religion says that about all other religions. All of them say they are right, and we are not. We did not originate that idea.
Nomi, of course they say they are correct, but they do not say they are the ONLY ones that will be saved. For example, the church I now attend says that there will be many of most religions saved, as long as they believe in Jesus, truly believe that he is their savior. What the witnesses say is you must be a witness first, then you will be saved. I know no other religion that puts itself before Jesus, except Jehovah's Witnesses. That is what it wrong, no where in the bible does it tell us that. No religion, no organization will save you, only Jesus can do that.

Since: Oct 10

Location hidden

#136 Oct 16, 2012
Nomi wrote:
The thing about that Karen, is that every religion says that about all other religions. All of them say they are right, and we are not. We did not originate that idea.
but this is the only true religion, the one that slams all others but will accuse those that find fault with their stupid unscriptual mistakes as apostate opposers. While they slam all other religions And never ever taking Any responsiblity for their own false predictions, stupid rules which have caused the stumbling and suffering or JW.
Truth of Christ

Mesquite, NV

#137 Oct 16, 2012
Mythbusters wrote:
<quoted text>
What about this:
Ezekiel 18:20
The one who sins is the one who will die. The child will not share the guilt of the parent, nor will the parent share the guilt of the child. The righteousness of the righteous will be credited to them, and the wickedness of the wicked will be charged against them.
That is not a contradiction. The follower of God is not held to the guilt of what a parent or child does.

Now some will claim the bible contradicts because we are held responsible for the sin of Adam. That is not so.

When Adam and Eve were perfect they would have had the opportunity to bear perfect children. When they sin and lose their perfection they lost the ability to bear perfect children. As a result, we today do not have perfection, not because of God but because Adam and Eve decided to give up their ability to bear perfect children.

In such a way, we are not responsible for the sin of Adam and Eve. They bear that on their own.

We are responsible for our own sin. Yes, we are more apt to sin due to having been born from imperfect parents rather than perfect parents. And that is why God sent his son to cover for our sins as God understands in his love that we are not able to completely avoid sin any longer. So he gave us a way to avoid condemnation for our own sins, not Adam and Eve's sins which are not ours to bear.

We bear imperfection because our parents do not have the capability to bear perfection. But we do not bear the sin that caused them to lose the ability to bear perfection and we do not even have to be forced to bear the condemnation of our own sin!

“Bustin' Myths”

Since: Dec 09

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#138 Oct 16, 2012
Truth of Christ wrote:
<quoted text>
That is not a contradiction. The follower of God is not held to the guilt of what a parent or child does.
Now some will claim the bible contradicts because we are held responsible for the sin of Adam. That is not so.
When Adam and Eve were perfect they would have had the opportunity to bear perfect children. When they sin and lose their perfection they lost the ability to bear perfect children. As a result, we today do not have perfection, not because of God but because Adam and Eve decided to give up their ability to bear perfect children.
In such a way, we are not responsible for the sin of Adam and Eve. They bear that on their own.
We are responsible for our own sin. Yes, we are more apt to sin due to having been born from imperfect parents rather than perfect parents. And that is why God sent his son to cover for our sins as God understands in his love that we are not able to completely avoid sin any longer. So he gave us a way to avoid condemnation for our own sins, not Adam and Eve's sins which are not ours to bear.
We bear imperfection because our parents do not have the capability to bear perfection. But we do not bear the sin that caused them to lose the ability to bear perfection and we do not even have to be forced to bear the condemnation of our own sin!
Yeah it is. If the son doesn't pay for the father's sin then explain adamic sin.
Truth of Christ

Mesquite, NV

#139 Oct 16, 2012
Mythbusters wrote:
<quoted text>
Yeah it is. If the son doesn't pay for the father's sin then explain adamic sin.
There is no contradiction. It has already been explained.

What do you not understand? It is simple.

Perfect people can make perfect babies. Imperfect people can only make imperfect babies. We are imperfect because our parents willingly gave up the right to make perfect babies. So we are more prone to commit sin but since God understands this he gave us a way to not have our sins count against us.

God will not punish you for a sin your father made. You can be punished for a sin you made. But Christ covers yours personal sins, so punishment is not necessary.

Since: Mar 09

United States

#140 Oct 17, 2012
I started this thread merely to show who is and who does not claim to bew a JW...thats all.

“Bustin' Myths”

Since: Dec 09

Location hidden

#141 Oct 17, 2012
Nomi wrote:
I started this thread merely to show who is and who does not claim to bew a JW...thats all.
Sure you did.

So, what are the results?

No jws on here, right?

Since: Oct 10

Location hidden

#142 Oct 17, 2012
Nomi wrote:
I started this thread merely to show who is and who does not claim to bew a JW...thats all.
and I see all your pals running to put their hands up! not

Since: Mar 09

United States

#143 Oct 18, 2012
Some of you(Myth, array, etc.)sure prove who you are...but do as you choose, and reap whatever you sow. Your problem, not mine.
Prime

United States

#144 Oct 18, 2012
Nomi wrote:
Some of you(Myth, array, etc.)sure prove who you are...but do as you choose, and reap whatever you sow. Your problem, not mine.
You're as real a JW as Nevada rose, same ignorance too!

Since: Mar 09

United States

#145 Oct 18, 2012
You are really are as real as a JW hater, as Spike, and his buddies are.

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