Should Christians Pray to Mary? A Je...

Should Christians Pray to Mary? A Jehovah's Witness perspective

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#1 Sep 21, 2010
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Teach Us How to Pray”
The Gospel account of Luke records that one of Jesus’ disciples requested of him:“Lord, teach us how to pray.” In response, Jesus began:“Whenever you pray, say,‘Father, let your name be sanctified.’” During his Sermon on the Mount, Jesus likewise instructed his followers to pray:“Our Father in the heavens, let your name be sanctified.”—Luke 11:1, 2; Matthew 6:9.
The first thing we learn, then, is that prayer, or worshipful address, should be directed to Jesus’ Father, who is Jehovah. Nowhere does the Bible authorize us to pray to anyone else. This is appropriate since, as Moses was told when he received the Ten Commandments, Jehovah is “a God exacting exclusive devotion.”—Exodus 20:5.

http://www.watchtower.org/e/20050908a/article...

The rest of the article can be read at the official Jehovah's Witness website where truth shines like as beacon in the darkness.

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#2 Sep 21, 2010
The rest of the article can be read at the official Jehovah's Witness website where truth shines like beacon in the darkness.
Prime

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#3 Sep 21, 2010
ROTFLMAO! Here's brainiac attacking JW forever!

brainiac wrote:
<quoted text>
And what is it that you are doing now? Imbecile!

brainiac wrote talking about JW forever:
<quoted text>
They started it up again-not me. In fact, a so-called Witness jumped right in and brought it right up into prominent position in order to get in a few SWIFT KICKs OF HER OWN. There few Christians on this forum vand very far betyween. By what I can tell from the feedback and agendaS, the vast majority are cunning demon-possessed hypocrites.

here's brainiac attacking a Catholic and telling him to F HIS MOTHER!
brainiac wrote to shaun:
<quoted text>
Chinga tu Madre!
Bible Jehova laws not GB

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#4 Sep 21, 2010
catolics pray to Mary,JW of Brooklyn pray to Jehova thru faithfull slave ?ALL THE SAME PRAYERS GOES NOWHERE.I saw in Indie people pray to cow,and worship cow manure....all is same bul
ancient indians after smoking pipe of peace inside if tipi tent saw white bull and worshiped him
Bible Jehova laws not GB

Dundalk, MD

#5 Sep 21, 2010
to know something what is going on in this crazy world of man religions nobody have to click link of JW on this Internet.JW links and informations are not full stories only mostly fakes

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#6 Sep 22, 2010
Hi there Brainiac2

Do you belive that and attack always is the best solution... in an attempt to guide the focus away from the Watchtower Society, Germaniels Body which have and still send brothers, sisters and their children into a premature death, where they continue the Catholic Chuchs murderdoctrines at their fellow humans due to their non scriptural doctrines of men...?

The cover of the May 22, 1994 Awake! magazine showing photos of 26 children, with the caption: "Youths Who Put God First." Inside the magazine glorifies Witness children who died supporting WTS policy.

Maybe it would be a wise decission, getting use of your efforts and postings at the Catholic Church thread here at Topix... the only result you gain here is that everybody make distance to all organized religion, included the Watchtower Society, Gamaliels Body...:grin:

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#7 Sep 22, 2010
Prime wrote:
ROTFLMAO! Here's brainiac attacking JW forever!
brainiac wrote:
<quoted text>
And what is it that you are doing now? Imbecile!
brainiac wrote talking about JW forever:
<quoted text>
They started it up again-not me. In fact, a so-called Witness jumped right in and brought it right up into prominent position in order to get in a few SWIFT KICKs OF HER OWN. There few Christians on this forum vand very far between. By what I can tell from the feedback and agendaS, the vast majority are cunning demon-possessed hypocrites.
here's brainiac attacking a Catholic and telling him to F HIS MOTHER!
brainiac wrote to shaun:
<quoted text>
Chinga tu Madre!
Why don't you post the barrage of indecencies that this person and others said to me first? Because if you do people here will realize the liar that you are. People don't lose their patience out of the clear blue sky. You know very well that during the time that this incident took place there were approximately ten or more persons on this website including you, dedicating most of their time to constantly insult me.
This Shaun individual was posting one indecency after another in Spanish, and in English without let up. Week after week month after month with your approval.

You and others on the sideline were hurling your insults as well in an effort to force me to leave. Do you want me to post all the dirt that you anmd others here said? I can you know. Bur I have bigger fish to fry at this moment.

Anyway Quasimodo, look! Here I still am and I haven't budged have I?

In fact, the more you pout, howl, ululate, snarl, and soil yourself the more you encourage me to stay. But hey? The CATHOLIC thrilL of the chase right? THE demonic GAUGING OF EYES. The satanic ripping of tongues!
The good old Catholic days you missed out on!

Now all you have is your Catholic expectation of aNOTHER OUTBURST FROM THE PRTOVOKED. Big difference. But it's better than nothing from your Catholic perspective-isn't it malvada?

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#8 Sep 22, 2010
Veritas 69 wrote:
Hi there Brainiac 2
Do you believe that and attack always is the best solution... in an attempt to guide the focus away from the Watchtower Society, Germaniels Body which have and still send brothers, sisters and their children into a premature death, where they continue the Catholic Churches murder doctrines at their fellow humans due to their non scriptural doctrines of men...?
The cover of the May 22, 1994 Awake! magazine showing photos of 26 children, with the caption: "Youths Who Put God First." Inside the magazine glorifies Witness children who died supporting WTS policy.
Maybe it would be a wise decision, getting use of your efforts and postings at the Catholic Church thread here at Topix... the only result you gain here is that everybody make distance to all organized religion, included the Watchtower Society, Gamaliel's Body...:grin:
\Not always but it has its utility.

Nope! I will refer to Catholics in relation to Prime because Prime is a Catholic who comes here to this JWS website to point his Catholic finger at JWS. Of course that little detail you choose to ignore and of course your advice is for me to shut up while your buddy Prime can do as he wants. Ummm, considering your obvious bias I'll follow my own judgement. Thanks for your ummm, concern?

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#9 Sep 22, 2010
Bible Jehovah laws not GB wrote:
catholics pray to Mary,JW of Brooklyn pray to Jehovah thru faithful slave ?ALL THE SAME PRAYERS GOES NOWHERE.I saw in Indie people pray to cow,and worship cow manure....all is same bul
ancient indians after smoking pipe of peace inside if tipi tent saw white bull and worshiped him
Bad association spoils useful habits. You associate with a Liar like Prime and sooner or later you become just like Prime and his Father. No JWs does what you just said. You know that. Where is your sense of fairness? Nowhere right? Tell me, were you disfellowshipped and that is the reason for you to make up such garbage. GeGet on your horse again and get a life. It doesn't have to end with disfellowshipping unless you make it so by your constant need for revenge.

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#10 Sep 22, 2010
Brainiac2 wrote:
<quoted text>
\Not always but it has its utility.
Nope! I will refer to Catholics in relation to Prime because Prime is a Catholic who comes here to this JWS website to point his Catholic finger at JWS. Of course that little detail you choose to ignore and of course your advice is for me to shut up while your buddy Prime can do as he wants. Ummm, considering your obvious bias I'll follow my own judgement. Thanks for your ummm, concern?
Hi again Brainic2

Have you ever never estimated that it could be a good ide to search for professionell help from your paranoia...:huh:

Maybe you could convince Prime to rely at the Scriptures instead of relaying at a man created orgaisation, whether it will be the Catholic Church, the Pope or the Watchtower Society, Germaniels Body... and their doctrines of men...?
Prime

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#11 Sep 22, 2010
Brainiac2 wrote:
<quoted text>
Why don't you post the barrage of indecencies that this person and others said to me first? Because if you do people here will realize the liar that you are. People don't lose their patience out of the clear blue sky. You know very well that during the time that this incident took place there were approximately ten or more persons on this website including you, dedicating most of their time to constantly insult me.
This Shaun individual was posting one indecency after another in Spanish, and in English without let up. Week after week month after month with your approval.
You and others on the sideline were hurling your insults as well in an effort to force me to leave. Do you want me to post all the dirt that you anmd others here said? I can you know. Bur I have bigger fish to fry at this moment.
Anyway Quasimodo, look! Here I still am and I haven't budged have I?
In fact, the more you pout, howl, ululate, snarl, and soil yourself the more you encourage me to stay. But hey? The CATHOLIC thrilL of the chase right? THE demonic GAUGING OF EYES. The satanic ripping of tongues!
The good old Catholic days you missed out on!
Now all you have is your Catholic expectation of aNOTHER OUTBURST FROM THE PRTOVOKED. Big difference. But it's better than nothing from your Catholic perspective-isn't it malvada?
You're lying once again Ninja! Here's one of your famous quotes!

QUOTE..
"If someone formerly was a Jehovah's Witness, "We must hate in the truest sense,
which is to regard with extreme active aversion,
to consider as loathsome, odious, filthy, to detest."
(Watchtower 10/1/52, p.599)

"in order to hate what is bad a Christian must hate the person"
(Watchtower 7/15/1961, p. 420)

Think about someone you were friends with for years and now
must not talk to them because they are not of the same religion.
It may even be your children!
Bible Jehova laws not GB

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#12 Sep 22, 2010
Brainiac2 wrote:
<quoted text>
Bad association spoils useful habits. You associate with a Liar like Prime and sooner or later you become just like Prime and his Father. No JWs does what you just said. You know that. Where is your sense of fairness? Nowhere right? Tell me, were you disfellowshipped and that is the reason for you to make up such garbage. GeGet on your horse again and get a life. It doesn't have to end with disfellowshipping unless you make it so by your constant need for revenge.
nobody disfallowship me from nowhere I see like I see and over all I love only Bible not man made crap and plays "big shots and hollies"
disfallowship is because of bad sinfull habits.
I have none of bad habits,I was voulntarly member and voluntarly steped down because of man teachings contradicting JEHOVA WORD HOLE BIBLE
nobody on the earth have righ fallow,baptist,or disfallowship,nobody especialy all religions lies is able to claim in past possesion of me..all of those" big spirtual sharks"are nothing just dust earthly grass dependent from mercy of God,they have to worry about own approval before God,thay do,nt have to worry about people like me.....Christ called me to bve free not to slave of spiritual idiots with full mouths of meat and salad during assemblies brakes and disrespecting average man and women,in private works thiefs,alcoholics,police informants,traitors own brothers,liers,and accusers of somebody life,and causing divisions of families
Bible Jehova laws not GB

Dundalk, MD

#13 Sep 22, 2010
Brainiac2 wrote:
<quoted text>
Bad association spoils useful habits. You associate with a Liar like Prime and sooner or later you become just like Prime and his Father. No JWs does what you just said. You know that. Where is your sense of fairness? Nowhere right? Tell me, were you disfellowshipped and that is the reason for you to make up such garbage. GeGet on your horse again and get a life. It doesn't have to end with disfellowshipping unless you make it so by your constant need for revenge.
my association only is 2 Thess 2;1.......now beseech you,bretheren,by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ,and by our gathering together unto Him
if you say that this association spoil good habits?what association is yours?I do,nt see second good spiritual habits association....from riches of your heart speaking your own mouths.....what association and horse you are????
I have nobody around me who is able lead me to ALMIGHTY GOD ARMS

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#14 Sep 23, 2010
Bible Jehova laws not GB wrote:
<quoted text>
my association only is 2 Thess 2;1.......now beseech you,bretheren,by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ,and by our gathering together unto Him
if you say that this association spoil good habits?what association is yours?I do,nt see second good spiritual habits association....from riches of your heart speaking your own mouths.....what association and horse you are????
I have nobody around me who is able lead me to ALMIGHTY GOD ARMS
Ok! My friend. I am a horse. I can learn to live with that.

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#15 Sep 23, 2010
Bible Jehovah laws not GB wrote:
<quoted text>
nobody disfellowship me from nowhere I see like I see and over all I love only Bible not man made crap and plays "big shots and hollies"
disfellowship is because of bad sinful habits.
I have none of bad habits,I was voluntary member and voluntary stepped down because of man teachings contradicting JEHOVA WORD HOLE BIBLE
nobody on the earth have right fallow,baptist,or disfellowship,nobody especially all religions lies is able to claim in past possession of me..all of those" big spiritual sharks"are nothing just dust earthly grass dependent from mercy of God,they have to worry about own approval before God,thay don't have to worry about people like me.....Christ called me to be free not to slave of spiritual idiots with full mouths of meat and salad during assemblies brakes and disrespecting average man and women,in private works thieves,alcoholics,police informants,traitors own brothers,liars,and accusers of somebody life,and causing divisions of families
Those are quotes from WTBTS magazines which you ripped out of context.
First you tried to pass them off ass statements made in the magazines. Now you are trying to pass them off ass mine. What next? Paper airplanes?

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#16 Sep 23, 2010
Those are quotes from WTBTS magazines which you ripped out of context.
First you tried to pass them off as statements made in the magazines. Now you are trying to pass them off as mine. What next? Paper airplanes?

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#17 Sep 24, 2010
Veritas 69 wrote:
<quoted text>
Hi again Brainic2
Have you ever never estimated that it could be a good idea to search for professional help from your paranoia...:huh:
Maybe you could convince Prime to rely at the Scriptures instead of relaying at a man created organisation, whether it will be the Catholic Church, the Pope or the Watchtower Society, Germaniels Body... and their doctrines of men...?
This is the second time you call me paranoid. Sir or mam. IF this is to be your modus operandi, calling me names and exalting those who are hounding me from thread to thread for months on end then I would prefer you ignore me. Please. Surely you know that you are encouraging this fellow by acting as if he's doing nothing wrong. So I would prefer that you not communicate with me again. OK?

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#18 Sep 24, 2010
Brainiac2 wrote:
<quoted text>
This is the second time you call me paranoid. Sir or mam. IF this is to be your modus operandi, calling me names and exalting those who are hounding me from thread to thread for months on end then I would prefer you ignore me. Please. Surely you know that you are encouraging this fellow by acting as if he's doing nothing wrong. So I would prefer that you not communicate with me again. OK?
Hi again Brainiac2

Pls. use your effort to show the evilness which is going on inside the Watchtower Society, Germaniels Body, instead of using your capasity at ghosts... as recommended of Paul in Ephesians 5:6-13... instead of supporting Germaniel Bodys and their lakeys, men which performs secret trails and send brothers, sisters and their children into a premature deat due to their evil and weird murderdoctrines and have maked themselves, their man made organisation and the blood to Idols, more sacerd than Jehovah, Jesus Christ and the life itself...:huh:

6 Let no man deceive you with vain words: for because of these things cometh the wrath of God upon the children of disobedience.

7 Be not ye therefore partakers with them.

8 For ye were sometimes darkness, but now [are ye] light in the Lord: walk as children of light:

9 (For the fruit of the Spirit [is] in all goodness and righteousness and truth;)

10 Proving what is acceptable unto the Lord.

11 And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove [them].

12 For it is a shame even to speak of those things which are done of them in secret.

13 But all things that are reproved are made manifest by the light: for whatsoever doth make manifest is light.

Do you prefere the light Brainiac2... or the obscure light with threats and sanctions, like Pharisees with Jesus Christ...?

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#19 Sep 24, 2010
Veritas 69 wrote:
<quoted text>
Hi again Brainiac 2
Pls. use your effort to show the evilness which is going on inside the Watchtower Society, Germaniels Body, instead of using your capacity at ghosts... as recommended of Paul in Ephesians 5:6-13... instead of supporting Germaniel Bodies and their lakey's, men which performs secret trails and send brothers, sisters and their children into a premature death due to their evil and weird murder doctrines and have made themselves, their man made organisation and the blood to Idols, more sacred than Jehovah, Jesus Christ and the life itself...:huh:
6 Let no man deceive you with vain words: for because of these things cometh the wrath of God upon the children of disobedience.
7 Be not ye therefore partakers with them.
8 For ye were sometimes darkness, but now [are ye] light in the Lord: walk as children of light:
9 (For the fruit of the Spirit [is] in all goodness and righteousness and truth;)
10 Proving what is acceptable unto the Lord.
11 And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove [them].
12 For it is a shame even to speak of those things which are done of them in secret.
13 But all things that are reproved are made manifest by the light: for whatsoever doth make manifest is light.
Do you prefer the light Brainiac 2... or the obscure light with threats and sanctions, like Pharisees with Jesus Christ...?
That's your view and I respect your right to have it. Please be so kind as to respect my right to differ.

BTW

Why do you feel you have the right to hijack threads and deviate them into the same monotonous subject?

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#20 Sep 25, 2010
Brainiac2 wrote:
<quoted text>
That's your view and I respect your right to have it. Please be so kind as to respect my right to differ.
BTW
Why do you feel you have the right to hijack threads and deviate them into the same monotonous subject?
Hi Brainiac2 acting like a maniac...

You moron, since you can't understand that there are brothers, sisters and their children which die unnecessarely nearly evey day due to the Watchtower Society, Germaniel Bodys evil, weird and non Scriptural murderdoctrines...:huh:

Get focued at important questions and a perspective at life...if will be possible for you...?

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