Bill Bowen pimp slapped the WTBTS

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UNchained

Seymour, TN

#1 Jun 20, 2012
See Pages 230-240

http://apps.alameda.courts.ca.gov/domainweb/s...

Do any of you Watchtower PR reps want to sue him for libel against your idol?
Carl Danny

Louisville, KY

#2 Jun 20, 2012
Interesting.

If the shoe fits...
UNchained

Seymour, TN

#3 Jun 20, 2012
The "Organised to Accomplish Our Ministry" book and all the BOE letters are going to bite the Watchtower Society in the behind when more victims come forward and sue.

Since: Apr 12

Adelaide, Australia

#4 Jun 21, 2012
We are not in the business of suing anyone. We will defend against false charges.

Our business is doing the work of our Lord and Savior.

Since: Oct 10

Location hidden

#5 Jun 21, 2012
ben57 wrote:
We are not in the business of suing anyone. We will defend against false charges.
Our business is doing the work of our Lord and Savior.
that's not true!

http://hetq.am/eng/news/4636/
UNchained

Seymour, TN

#6 Jun 21, 2012
ben57 wrote:
We are not in the business of suing anyone. We will defend against false charges.
Our business is doing the work of our Lord and Savior.
Quit whining and pay your share of the judgement.

It's only $3 apiece for you and your other 7 million spiritually

bankrupt JW brothers and sisters.

Maybe next time jevoodoo's "clean" organisation will receive a $200 million judgement against them from the courts, will file bankruptcy, stop producing books and magazines and the deceived JW's will begin reading their Bibles instead of apostate Watchtower Society trash.
red blood relative

United States

#8 Jun 21, 2012
hi ben57, are you sure you are not in the business of silencing any one,....?

including 'molestation victims' who disagree with the jw gov body and their legal team who silence them?

can you tell me about it ben?... you know in simple words..... all about how jw leadership don't silence molestation victims, by telling them to shut up, since they are bringing reproach on jehovah's organization, so they must sacrifice just a little and shut up, while the molester keeps molesting them...... or the media might get ahold of it, and that wouldn't be good........ so just shut up about it all, and if he molests you again just inform us, after a few days, when we have time for another committee meeting.... and meantime, keep shutting up about it all, or we wil disfellowship you for causing reproach on jehovahs name.
UNchained

Seymour, TN

#9 Jun 21, 2012
ben57 wrote:
We are not in the business of suing anyone. We will defend against false charges.
Our business is doing the work of our Lord and Savior.
http://imgur.com/a/MLgkh#0

“New one man.”

Since: Jan 11

Location hidden

#10 Jun 21, 2012
UNchained wrote:
See Pages 230-240

http://apps.alameda.courts.ca.gov/domainweb/s...

Do any of you Watchtower PR reps want to sue him for libel against your idol?
Good!
JACE

Clinton, MD

#11 Jun 21, 2012
check out page 145-146 and 150-153

i feel sorry for the pooor elder

wt hangs these boys out to dry

he is answering like he is on the district convention
UNchained

Seymour, TN

#12 Jun 22, 2012
JACE wrote:
check out page 145-146 and 150-153
i feel sorry for the pooor elder
wt hangs these boys out to dry
he is answering like he is on the district convention
He just follows the script.

When the interviewer strays from the script he is lost.

The WTBTS has learned a lot from this case.

They will attempt to head off a lot of questions about their policies beforehand when they are sued.

“Bustin' Myths”

Since: Dec 09

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#13 Jun 23, 2012
UNchained wrote:
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He just follows the script.
When the interviewer strays from the script he is lost.
The WTBTS has learned a lot from this case.
They will attempt to head off a lot of questions about their policies beforehand when they are sued.
They tried to do that in this case and the judge ordered that the elders must answer. There was never an intent that the conversations with Kendrick were confidential when the elders admitted that their first course of action was to call legal.

Clergy/penitent privilege is between two (2) people. Not everyone in the judicial/investigative committee and the service department.
jace

Clinton, MD

#14 Jun 23, 2012
UNchained wrote:
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The WTBTS has learned a lot from this case.
They will attempt to head off a lot of questions about their policies beforehand when they are sued.
yes they have, they have learned that they have tons of mean who might be good at getting folks to hawk magazines on sat but are simply not qualifed to speak intellegently when called to the stands and there is very little they can do to change that, there are just so many elders like that out there who are subject to be called on

just wait till they start cases in some of the areas where the educational levels of elders are lower, it ain't going to be pretty

" we just did what the Society told us to do"
jace

Clinton, MD

#15 Jun 23, 2012
Mythbusters wrote:
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Clergy/penitent privilege is between two (2) people. Not everyone in the judicial/investigative committee and the service department.
this was the most interesting point i found in the documents, i had no idea that by an elder calling service it could make the claim of clergy=laity priviledge moot

IF THIS STANDS that means the wt INSTRUCTIONS TO CALL BETHEL FIRST AUTOMATICALLY NULLS THE CLAIM OF CONFIDENILITY

see this is why i keep telling folks the issue is not this CASE PERSAY, but what it represent



THIS COULD mean that the VERY INSTRUCTIONS the society has given to elders COULD LITERALLY MAKE IT POSSIBLE FOR ANY LAW FIRM to ask for the elder/bethel letters that deal with ADMINISTRATIVE INSTRUCTIONS, DIRECTIVE they have

it can't be good that the VERY DIRECTIVE YOU HAVE SPENT years pounding into every single elders head ESP here in the USA and now a DEATH NAIL

CAN YOU imagine this??

“Bustin' Myths”

Since: Dec 09

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#16 Jun 23, 2012
jace wrote:
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this was the most interesting point i found in the documents, i had no idea that by an elder calling service it could make the claim of clergy=laity priviledge moot
IF THIS STANDS that means the wt INSTRUCTIONS TO CALL BETHEL FIRST AUTOMATICALLY NULLS THE CLAIM OF CONFIDENILITY
see this is why i keep telling folks the issue is not this CASE PERSAY, but what it represent
THIS COULD mean that the VERY INSTRUCTIONS the society has given to elders COULD LITERALLY MAKE IT POSSIBLE FOR ANY LAW FIRM to ask for the elder/bethel letters that deal with ADMINISTRATIVE INSTRUCTIONS, DIRECTIVE they have
it can't be good that the VERY DIRECTIVE YOU HAVE SPENT years pounding into every single elders head ESP here in the USA and now a DEATH NAIL
CAN YOU imagine this??
Yes, simply by having two elders on an investigative committee and three elders on a judicial committee nulls the clergy/penitent privilege.

Gotta love it. For an organization that claims they have no clergy/laity distinction to claim they have it to get out of answering questions then to find out they don't have a clue how it works is priceless.
red blood relative

United States

#17 Jun 24, 2012
this is getting better and better!!!
conspiracy to slilence victims is a serious thing.

i'll bet the jw legal team is pulling their hair out right now..... i notice they are trying out all of their red-herring stratagies for defence on all the exjw sites.

once this precedent is upheld, they are dog meat, bird-food..... the floodgates of the victims will be unleashed for the collection of their billions.

then the next step in court is to make them give up their billions that they have legally hidden under various other corperation names.
the catholic church tried that trick too, to avoid paying out the damages, but it didn't work.
jace

Clinton, MD

#18 Jun 24, 2012
Mythbusters wrote:
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Yes, simply by having two elders on an investigative committee and three elders on a judicial committee nulls the clergy/penitent privilege.
Gotta love it. For an organization that claims they have no clergy/laity distinction to claim they have it to get out of answering questions then to find out they don't have a clue how it works is priceless.
you got to love it-

IN MY VIEW this is the direct result of the wt trying to CREATED THEIR OWN DEFINITIONS and meanings of words

while generally speaking everyone knows what it means when ones says:

i am pastor, clergy parking spot at the hospital, clergy/penitent privilege.

and generally speaking MOST FOLKS UNDESTAND WHO THAT APPLIES TO
yet the jw want to CLAIM THESE RIGHTS GRANTED BUT DENY THEY REALLY ARE

THEN they turn around and say we have no Hierarchical system
the minute they have issues on various matters they will call the CO or bethel for instructions on what they can and can't do

they need to make up their mind- once they get into trouble they invoke these rights

it reminds one of their claim to be a PROPHET, they want the respect and honor given a prophet, without the responsiblity of having TO GET RIGHT WHAT THEY SAY AND BE TESTED with the divine prophet test

we see just another example of how they play the game
jace

Clinton, MD

#19 Jun 24, 2012
red blood relative wrote:
this is getting better and better!!!

once this precedent is upheld, they are dog meat, bird-food..... the floodgates of the victims will be unleashed for the collection of their billions.

then the next step in court is to make them give up their billions that they have legally hidden under various other corperation names.
the catholic church tried that trick too, to avoid paying out the damages, but it didn't work.
excellent point

this is why i have been repeatedly saying that this case PERSAY is not what concerns the society as much as WHAT IT REPRESENT

ONLY TIME WILL TELL what the final ruling by the court is an the wt KNOWS THESE ARE THE STAKES ON THE TABLE
jace

Clinton, MD

#20 Jun 24, 2012
The reason this case is different is because the society has paid out money before BUT IT WAS SEALED WITH GAG ORDERS, ETC

so cutting a million dollar check - this monkey don't stop no show for the wt - IF IT WAS SEALED

but this one ain't, it is wide open for all the public to see and read for themselves

in the other cases no one saw elders letter, service dept letters etc on public display
UNchained

Seymour, TN

#22 Jun 24, 2012
jace wrote:
The reason this case is different is because the society has paid out money before BUT IT WAS SEALED WITH GAG ORDERS, ETC
so cutting a million dollar check - this monkey don't stop no show for the wt - IF IT WAS SEALED
but this one ain't, it is wide open for all the public to see and read for themselves
in the other cases no one saw elders letter, service dept letters etc on public display
Leroy can go online and see everything about this case so when the 2 JW's show up next Saturday with the 'Bible Teach' book to study with him he is going to have some very interesting questions to ask them.

Depending on their answers he will either continue studying out of that book with them or, if they start blaiming 'apostates'(Leroy scratches his head and thinks, "who is this Mr. Apostates") and say the victim (too late, Leroy has read the testimony)is lying he will not answer the door next Saturday and when they call his phone they get voice mail.

I heard that the WTS tried to get Ms. Condi to accept an out-of-court settlement but she said no.

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