Do Jehovah's Witnesses celebrate pagan rituals?

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colin

UK

#1 Sep 7, 2008
as Gareth has made such a big issue about christmas being of pagan origin why did the watchtower celebrate it?

also this may make you think again before you cast stones Gareth

http://www.escapefromwatchtower.com/holidays....
colin

UK

#2 Sep 7, 2008
According to The Torah: A Modern Commentary, the purpose of mummification, widely practiced in Egypt, was to preserve the body as an aid to the soul as it made its journey to a new life. The body would be treated with myrrh and similar spices, washed, wrapped, and then placed within a cave in a mountain.

Does anyone know who this happened to in the New testament

Does this mean that he was participating in a pagan practice?
unlisted

Greensboro, NC

#3 Sep 7, 2008
thank you Colin for posting this.. very interesting information may open some eyes..

hope you are ok... we see that hanna the tropical storm that left the east coast could affect you in a few days.

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#4 Sep 7, 2008
colin wrote:
as Gareth has made such a big issue about christmas being of pagan origin why did the watchtower celebrate it?
I didn't make a big issue out of it. Everyone else did.

Now the difference between true Christians and false Christians is that when the true Christians realised that celebration Christmas was wrong they stopped doing it out of respect for Jehovah God and their Lord Jesus Christ.
colin

UK

#5 Sep 7, 2008
unlisted wrote:
thank you Colin for posting this.. very interesting information may open some eyes..
hope you are ok... we see that hanna the tropical storm that left the east coast could affect you in a few days.
Thank you unlisted yes I am fine thank you, we may get the tail end of hanna but only rain I see the poor folk ih haiti are in for more suffering we need to pray for them and others that are ebing affected by the storms in the atlantic and carribean and the Gulf

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#7 Sep 7, 2008
colin wrote:
According to The Torah: A Modern Commentary, the purpose of mummification, widely practiced in Egypt, was to preserve the body as an aid to the soul as it made its journey to a new life. The body would be treated with myrrh and similar spices, washed, wrapped, and then placed within a cave in a mountain.
Does anyone know who this happened to in the New testament
Does this mean that he was participating in a pagan practice?
It is not pagan practice that is wrong but pagan practice used in their celebration of false gods. We all tie our shoe laces (for example).

Since: Sep 07

Bolingbrook, IL

#8 Sep 7, 2008
colin wrote:
as Gareth has made such a big issue about christmas being of pagan origin why did the watchtower celebrate it?
also this may make you think again before you cast stones Gareth
http://www.escapefromwatchtower.com/holidays....
Great info, and link and well done!
colin

UK

#9 Sep 7, 2008
Gareth wrote:
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I didn't make a big issue out of it. Everyone else did.
Now the difference between true Christians and false Christians is that when the true Christians realised that celebration Christmas was wrong they stopped doing it out of respect for Jehovah God and their Lord Jesus Christ.
Now let me see who started the merry christmas all you PAGANS thread off gareth please remind me

so tell me also will they also stop the practices that are mentioned on this thread?

will Jehovahs witnesses stop being enbalmed at the undertakers as it is a "pagan practice" just the tip of the ice berg so really your christmas paganism argument is nothing more than a drop in the ocean, why not look at all the other pagan practices also that even the witnesses themselves participate in?
colin

UK

#10 Sep 7, 2008
Gareth wrote:
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It is not pagan practice that is wrong but pagan practice used in their celebration of false gods. We all tie our shoe laces (for example).
Jesus' body was wrapped in spices, "according to the Jewish tradition", that came from the ancient Pagan religious custom of mummification, and that was acceptable.

maybe you should see the comparisons

http://www.summum.us/mummification/philosophy...

Did Jesus forbid his followers not to embalm his body?
unlisted

Greensboro, NC

#11 Sep 7, 2008
who="colin"]
Thank you unlisted yes I am fine thank you, we may get the tail end of hanna but only rain I see the poor folk ih haiti are in for more suffering we need to pray for them and others that are ebing affected by the storms in the Atlantic and carribean and the Gulf[

yes they need help. this ike could be a 5 eventually. i pray they will be able to find shelter and be safe. we said prayers this morning for their safety and for the safety of those who may be in his path..

it is also aimed a t Jamaica have you heard from family? my prayers will be with all in the path.
unlisted

Greensboro, NC

#12 Sep 7, 2008
could someone list the pagan practices they join in with..??
colin

UK

#13 Sep 8, 2008
there are a few on the link I posted

http://www.escapefromwatchtower.com/holidays....

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#14 Sep 8, 2008
colin wrote:
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Jesus' body was wrapped in spices, "according to the Jewish tradition", that came from the ancient Pagan religious custom of mummification, and that was acceptable.
maybe you should see the comparisons
http://www.summum.us/mummification/philosophy...
Did Jesus forbid his followers not to embalm his body?
Embalming is hardly a service to foreign gods. It is basically a mistaken belief about death and resurrection.

You don't embalm someone to your god. It is not a ritual celebration of a specific deity (or group of deities).

You just embalm them the preserve their body for their resurrection (wherever you believe that might be).

Furthermore, no one has taken the practice of embalming, and legitimised the false beliefs it embodied by putting Jesus' name on it.

Christmas, on the other hand, was a celebration of a foreign god that was 're-branded' by putting Jesus' name to it.

Different kettle of fish entirely.
colin

UK

#15 Sep 8, 2008
Gareth wrote:
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Embalming is hardly a service to foreign gods. It is basically a mistaken belief about death and resurrection.
You don't embalm someone to your god. It is not a ritual celebration of a specific deity (or group of deities).
You just embalm them the preserve their body for their resurrection (wherever you believe that might be).
Furthermore, no one has taken the practice of embalming, and legitimised the false beliefs it embodied by putting Jesus' name on it.
Christmas, on the other hand, was a celebration of a foreign god that was 're-branded' by putting Jesus' name to it.
Different kettle of fish entirely.
the question was do Jehovahs witnesses practice pagan rituals?

Do Jehovahs witnesses allow embalming of the Body yes or no?
jimi

Laredo, TX

#16 Sep 8, 2008
Gareth wrote:
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...You just embalm them the preserve their body for their resurrection (wherever you believe that might be)...
Why would a Jehovah's Witness be embalmed?

*** w98 7/1 p. 21 par. 11 “Death Is to Be Brought to Nothing”***

11 This means re-creating human souls. Impossible? No, for Psalm 104:29, 30 assures us that God can do so:“If you take away their spirit, they expire, and back to their dust they go. If you send forth your spirit, they are created.” While resurrected ones will be the same individuals they were before their death, they will not need to have the same bodies. As with those raised to heaven, God will give them a body just as it pleases him. No doubt their new bodies will be physically sound and reasonably similar to their original body so that they will be recognized by their loved ones.
colin

UK

#17 Sep 8, 2008
jimi wrote:
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Why would a Jehovah's Witness be embalmed?
*** w98 7/1 p. 21 par. 11 “Death Is to Be Brought to Nothing”***
11 This means re-creating human souls. Impossible? No, for Psalm 104:29, 30 assures us that God can do so:“If you take away their spirit, they expire, and back to their dust they go. If you send forth your spirit, they are created.” While resurrected ones will be the same individuals they were before their death, they will not need to have the same bodies. As with those raised to heaven, God will give them a body just as it pleases him. No doubt their new bodies will be physically sound and reasonably similar to their original body so that they will be recognized by their loved ones.
when the body is deceased the body would normally go to a undertaker who would preserve the body till burial with embalming fluid but this practice still goes back to pagan rituals
colin

UK

#18 Sep 8, 2008
Embalming chemicals are a variety of preservatives, sanitising and disinfectant agents and additives used in modern embalming to temporarily prevent decomposition and restore a natural appearance for viewing a body after death. A mixture of these chemicals is known as embalming fluid and is used to preserve deceased (dead) individuals, sometimes only until the funeral, other times indefinitely.

Typically embalming fluid contains a mixture of formaldehyde, methanol, ethanol and other solvents. The formaldehyde content generally ranges from 5 to 29 percent and the ethanol content may range from 9 to 56 percent.

In the United States alone, enough embalming fluid is buried every year to fill eight Olympic-size pools.[1](~20 million liters)
dee

Greenville, SC

#19 Sep 8, 2008
Gareth wrote:
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It is not pagan practice that is wrong but pagan practice used in their celebration of false gods. We all tie our shoe laces (for example).
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You said,"pagan practice in their celebration of false gods."
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Are you saying Jesus is a false god???
gods????

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#20 Sep 8, 2008
unlisted wrote:
could someone list the pagan practices they join in with..??
Yes. I tie my shoelaces every time I put my shoes on. So do the pagans.

The point is that it is not 'ritual' itself but ritual dedicated to foreign gods that is the issue.

God's people have always done things that the pagans also did.

But the Bible makes it clear that you do NOT do the things the pagans do in the worship of their gods you do NOT mix those things in with the worship of the True God.

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