Raymundus Martini who is he ? Does t...

Raymundus Martini who is he ? Does the Watchtower Know who he is?

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“Jesus is Lord”

Since: Mar 08

Birmingham UK

#1 Apr 28, 2008
would love Jehovahs witnesses to check this guy out and see what he taught about "Gods Name"

see aid to Bible understanding 1971 pp 884, 885

TACAN DAN

“JWs are a satanic cult. ”

Since: Jan 08

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#2 Apr 28, 2008
Jehovah's Witnesses do not embrace the truth and would like nothing better than to ignore Raymundus Martini and the fact that he brought the word "jehovah" to the world.

The key here is that the phony word "jehovah" did not exist prior to the year 1270.

To praise JEHOVAH is a phony praise and is NO WAY brings praise to God Almighty.

Jehovah's Witnesses are right where Satan wants them...very confused.

“Jesus is Lord”

Since: Mar 08

Birmingham UK

#3 Apr 28, 2008
By combining the vowel signs of 'Adho.nay and 'Elo.him' with the four consonants of the Tetragrammaton the pronunciations Yeho.wah' and Yehowih' were formed. The first of these provided the basis for the Latinized form "Jehova(h)." The first recorded use of this form dates from the thirteenth century C.E. Raymundus Martini, a Spanish monk of the Dominican Order, used it in his book Pugeo Fidei of the year 1270. Hebrew scholars generally favor "Yahweh" as the most likely pronunciation.(6)

aid to Bible understanding 1971 pp 884, 885

The watchtower referring to a "Catholic Monk" concerning the name "Jehovah"

Mystery Babylon or what ?

TACAN DAN

“JWs are a satanic cult. ”

Since: Jan 08

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#4 Apr 28, 2008
colin cunningham wrote:
By combining the vowel signs of 'Adho.nay and 'Elo.him' with the four consonants of the Tetragrammaton the pronunciations Yeho.wah' and Yehowih' were formed. The first of these provided the basis for the Latinized form "Jehova(h)." The first recorded use of this form dates from the thirteenth century C.E. Raymundus Martini, a Spanish monk of the Dominican Order, used it in his book Pugeo Fidei of the year 1270. Hebrew scholars generally favor "Yahweh" as the most likely pronunciation.(6)
aid to Bible understanding 1971 pp 884, 885
The watchtower referring to a "Catholic Monk" concerning the name "Jehovah"
Mystery Babylon or what ?
Most of them know that "jehovah" was a translator's error.

They just refuse to admit it.

“Jesus is Lord”

Since: Mar 08

Birmingham UK

#5 Apr 28, 2008
I know but one day every knee shall bow at the name of Jesus

11 For it is written, As I live, saith the Lord, every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall confess to God.

12 So then every one of us shall give account of himself to God.

“Jesus is Lord”

Since: Mar 08

Birmingham UK

#6 Apr 28, 2008
no comments from the watchtower ?????

“Jesus is Lord”

Since: Mar 08

Birmingham UK

#7 Apr 28, 2008
why are the witnesses staying away from this thread ?

Since: Dec 06

Kittery, Maine

#8 Apr 28, 2008
Hi Colin,

I have a page on my website at www.docbob.org about Raymundus Martini (a.k.a. Ramon Marti).

I am still looking for an English translation of Martini's "Pugeo Fidei" - do you have any leads?

Bob
colin

Stone, UK

#9 Apr 28, 2008
DocBob wrote:
Hi Colin,
I have a page on my website at www.docbob.org about Raymundus Martini (a.k.a. Ramon Marti).
I am still looking for an English translation of Martini's "Pugeo Fidei" - do you have any leads?
Bob
there is link that I found interesting look at what is said in "Puegeo Fidei" on page 118

"The third part of the Pugio Fidei is divided into three sections. The first seeks to prove, as always, on the basis of rabbinic texts, the concept of the Trinity;[11]"

the watchtowe used this man to say it was ok becasue he translated the name Jehovah, but would they agree with him on the above quote?

http://content.cdlib.org/xtf/view...
colin

Stone, UK

#10 Apr 29, 2008
still no comments from the watchtower ?
unlisted

Greensboro, NC

#11 Apr 29, 2008
colin I think you hit a very large nerve. or someone may be scrambling to read all jw books to post the opposite.
colin

Milton Keynes, UK

#12 Apr 29, 2008
unlisted wrote:
colin I think you hit a very large nerve. or someone may be scrambling to read all jw books to post the opposite.
maybe but im only pointing these things out that the jws may not be aware of
colin

Milton Keynes, UK

#13 Apr 29, 2008
I just find it strange that the watchtower are always bringing the catholic church down as part of "mystery babylon" and yet who do they turn to for quotes to back up their teachings?

Yes "Mystery babylon"

I am not a catholic by the way
unlisted

Greensboro, NC

#14 Apr 29, 2008
i know and you know and many others know but the jws may not answer you

how are you feeling? how is the cough?
colin

Milton Keynes, UK

#15 Apr 29, 2008
Im ok now thanks prayer has been answered
unlisted

Greensboro, NC

#16 Apr 29, 2008
who="colin"]Im ok now thanks prayer has been answered

good! we were concerned when you mentioned the infection. but glad to hear you are ok and Colin I read your posts. they are respectful and i at times become frustrated when i am called a liar or apostate. how I can be an apostate is not understandable i have never been ajw

but hey life is life glad your ok and back
colin

Milton Keynes, UK

#17 Apr 29, 2008
the fruits of the spirit my friend remember the fruits of the spirt,

also this verse may help

1st Thessalonians 5:14-15

14 Now we exhort you, brethren, warn them that are unruly, comfort the feebleminded, support the weak, be patient toward all men. 15 See that none render evil for evil unto any man; but ever follow that which is good, both among yourselves, and to all men.
colin

Christchurch, UK

#18 Apr 29, 2008
any thoughts anyone from the watchtower Organization ?
unlisted

Greensboro, NC

#19 Apr 29, 2008
who="colin"]the fruits of the spirit my friend remember the fruits of the spirt,
also this verse may help
1st Thessalonians 5:14-15
14 Now we exhort you, brethren, warn them that are unruly, comfort the feebleminded, support the weak, be patient toward all men. 15 See that none render evil for evil unto any man; but ever follow that which is good, both among yourselves, and to all men.

thank you Colin..
colin

UK

#20 Apr 30, 2008
I will bring this back to the table for discussion any answers please

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