My Witness Parents are Trying to Indoctrinate My Kids!

[Arkham Bravo]

My three kids come back from spending a weekend with my parents and my oldest comes back asking mommy if birthdays are bad. Then it was, mommy, is Halloween bad. Today, its mommy, is magic bad.

My wife who was not raised a Jehovah's Witness finally in an outburst asked me what the hell are my parents putting in our kid's mind! I could not blame her and will take her side.

My parents have really crossed the line and really should know better! I will have to strongly counsel them on how this is not good for our family and that they should not be filling our kid's minds with their propaganda behind our backs! It is downright disrespectful!

[MixedMedia]

Arkham Bravo wrote:

My three kids come back from spending a weekend with my parents and my oldest comes back asking mommy if birthdays are bad. Then it was, mommy, is Halloween bad. Today, its mommy, is magic bad.

My wife who was not raised a Jehovah's Witness finally in an outburst asked me what the hell are my parents putting in our kid's mind! I could not blame her and will take her side.

My parents have really crossed the line and really should know better! I will have to strongly counsel them on how this is not good for our family and that they should not be filling our kid's minds with their propaganda behind our backs! It is downright disrespectful!

You need to calmly and lovingly talk to them. Tell them You are raising your children and that you decide their spiritual up bringing. Tell them it's one thing to discuss it with you but another to confuse the kids. You have to find a way to calmly make them understand that it won't be tolerated.
If your wife's parents were trying to convert them to Catholicism or Hindu or Judaism, how would they feel about that? Show them that it's wrong not because they are JW, but because you are responsible for their spiritual upbringing, no one else.

[bystander no more]

You should just say that your parents believe these things are bad but that you don't.

For the sake of your innocent children, you should keep all your options open.

Your parents just might be able to keep your kids alive if you and your wife bite the dust at Armageddon.

Think about it.

[Stingo]

Arkham Bravo wrote:

My three kids come back from spending a weekend with my parents and my oldest comes back asking mommy if birthdays are bad. Then it was, mommy, is Halloween bad. Today, its mommy, is magic bad.
My wife who was not raised a Jehovah's Witness finally in an outburst asked me what the hell are my parents putting in our kid's mind! I could not blame her and will take her side.
My parents have really crossed the line and really should know better! I will have to strongly counsel them on how this is not good for our family and that they should not be filling our kid's minds with their propaganda behind our backs! It is downright disrespectful!

You have to remember first and foremost that it's your duty to protect them. I would strongly suggest, and this is only my opinion, and nothing more... But I would limit association until your parents figure it out. I'm very hardcore on this in my personal life, as I'm also a shunner. My family will never get to see me again. That may make me as bad as a jw, but it's what works for me. Good luck.

[MixedMedia]

bystander no more wrote:

You should just say that your parents believe these things are bad but that you don't.

For the sake of your innocent children, you should keep all your options open.

Your parents just might be able to keep your kids alive if you and your wife bite the dust at Armageddon.

Think about it.

Keep options open? You mean like the JW who teach their children that all other religions are bad? Ya know you could be wrong. Not saying you are, but you could be, it's belief not fact.

[hMMMMM]

Arkham Bravo wrote:

My three kids come back from spending a weekend with my parents and my oldest comes back asking mommy if birthdays are bad. Then it was, mommy, is Halloween bad. Today, its mommy, is magic bad.
My wife who was not raised a Jehovah's Witness finally in an outburst asked me what the hell are my parents putting in our kid's mind! I could not blame her and will take her side.
My parents have really crossed the line and really should know better! I will have to strongly counsel them on how this is not good for our family and that they should not be filling our kid's minds with their propaganda behind our backs! It is downright disrespectful!

Sorry, but I refused to ever let my father be alone with my children for that reason.
Your poor wife, I am sure she is clueless about the depth of the brainwashing of cults.
I am sure you love your parents, but they will always put the wishes of the WBTS first, above the safety of your children.
I am not saying your children are in danger, but honestly don't you think the best place for them to be with your children is when you or your wife are present?
They are programmed to not only badmouth what your values are, but you and your wife as people.
Did you grow up in the JW cult??
Just wondering.

[UNchained]

bystander no more wrote:

You should just say that your parents believe these things are bad but that you don't.
For the sake of your innocent children, you should keep all your options open.
Your parents just might be able to keep your kids alive if you and your wife bite the dust at Armageddon.
Think about it.

It could be that the parents have faith in Jesus and are teaching their faith to the children.

The grandparents have been brainwashed into believeing that faith in Jesus is not enough just like every other JW has been brainwashed to believe.

[hMMMMM]

Stingo wrote:

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You have to remember first and foremost that it's your duty to protect them. I would strongly suggest, and this is only my opinion, and nothing more... But I would limit association until your parents figure it out. I'm very hardcore on this in my personal life, as I'm also a shunner. My family will never get to see me again. That may make me as bad as a jw, but it's what works for me. Good luck.

I agree Stingo.
Jw's are brainwashed to ONLY see black and white, they are right and the rest of the world is not only wrong but willingly following Satan.
Their grandchildren must accept "jehovah" or the teachings of the WBTS, otherwise they will surely die a violent death any day now.

I think only those of us who were children of the JW cult, know how terrifying JW propaganda is to children, and that this is done on purpose.

You cannot reason with Jehovah's Witnesses, that is the sad truth.

If the grandparents are allowed unsupervised visits, they will do whatever they please, because they have "jehovah" which is only the WBTS but they are programmed to believe is "God", supporting them and their abuse.
Sorry, but the way JWs terrify children into submission is abusive.

[eagleeye2]

Arkham Bravo wrote:

My three kids come back from spending a weekend with my parents and my oldest comes back asking mommy if birthdays are bad. Then it was, mommy, is Halloween bad. Today, its mommy, is magic bad.
My wife who was not raised a Jehovah's Witness finally in an outburst asked me what the hell are my parents putting in our kid's mind! I could not blame her and will take her side.
My parents have really crossed the line and really should know better! I will have to strongly counsel them on how this is not good for our family and that they should not be filling our kid's minds with their propaganda behind our backs! It is downright disrespectful!

So your parents are not allowed to explain to their grandchildren the reason they give gifts on other days but not on their birthdays? Your parents cannot give their grandchildren the reason they give them candy on other days but not on Halloween?

What are you so afraid of? Let your parents explain themselves. Teach your children what you want them to believe. Teach your children to explain and defend your beliefs like Witness children do at school, with relatives, and at the doors they call on.

If you are really convinced that what you believe is more correct than what your parents believe, teach your children your reasons for what you believe. Your children will be hearing all kinds of things from all kinds of people. Fortify your children to stand up for what they believe (or what you want them to believe).

My Baptist parents talked to my children about their Baptist beliefs. My children told them what they had learned from the Bible at the Kingdom Hall. My mother taught my children to sing "Jesus Loves Me, This I Know." I taught them to sing "We Are Jehovah's Witnesses" real loud for my parents. My mother was in complete awe when she came to the Kingdom Hall for the first time to hear her grandson give his first public talk on a Sunday.

My children all grew up to be dedicated baptized Jehovah's Witnesses while being exposed to all sorts of attacks on their faith and hearing all kinds of arguments against what they believed and having to defend their beliefs and make them their own.

There is nothing to fear if you have the truth.

[Bite My Jehovah]

eagleeye2 wrote:

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So your parents are not allowed to explain to their grandchildren the reason they give gifts on other days but not on their birthdays? Your parents cannot give their grandchildren the reason they give them candy on other days but not on Halloween?
What are you so afraid of? Let your parents explain themselves. Teach your children what you want them to believe. Teach your children to explain and defend your beliefs like Witness children do at school, with relatives, and at the doors they call on.
If you are really convinced that what you believe is more correct than what your parents believe, teach your children your reasons for what you believe. Your children will be hearing all kinds of things from all kinds of people. Fortify your children to stand up for what they believe (or what you want them to believe).
My Baptist parents talked to my children about their Baptist beliefs. My children told them what they had learned from the Bible at the Kingdom Hall. My mother taught my children to sing "Jesus Loves Me, This I Know." I taught them to sing "We Are Jehovah's Witnesses" real loud for my parents. My mother was in complete awe when she came to the Kingdom Hall for the first time to hear her grandson give his first public talk on a Sunday.
My children all grew up to be dedicated baptized Jehovah's Witnesses while being exposed to all sorts of attacks on their faith and hearing all kinds of arguments against what they believed and having to defend their beliefs and make them their own.
There is nothing to fear if you have the truth.

Well, we already know that all of your children, like you, are a mess.

Tell the grandchildren that sometimes Satan comes into people's lives and that if people claim to be jehovah's witnesses, Satan already has control of them.

Tell them that these people love Satan more than anyone else and they base their lives on lies.

Do not allow the lies of Satan to enter the hearts of these children and ruin their lives.

[hMMMM]

Bite My Jehovah wrote:

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Well, we already know that all of your children, like you, are a mess.
Tell the grandchildren that sometimes Satan comes into people's lives and that if people claim to be jehovah's witnesses, Satan already has control of them.
Tell them that these people love Satan more than anyone else and they base their lives on lies.
Do not allow the lies of Satan to enter the hearts of these children and ruin their lives.

Evileye is actually defending disrespecting a parents wishes, and that is what Jehovah's witnesses do.

She terrified her son right into suicide, which is not uncommon in JW children, they are shown graphic, terrifying depictions of violent acts from birth on.

No parent should ever leave their child alone with any Jehovah'switness.
Evileye's son is the sad reason of why.

[Bite My Jehovah]

hMMMM wrote:

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Evileye is actually defending disrespecting a parents wishes, and that is what Jehovah's witnesses do.
She terrified her son right into suicide, which is not uncommon in JW children, they are shown graphic, terrifying depictions of violent acts from birth on.
No parent should ever leave their child alone with any Jehovah'switness.
Evileye's son is the sad reason of why.

You are absolutely correct!

[UNchained]

eagleeye2 wrote:

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So your parents are not allowed to explain to their grandchildren the reason they give gifts on other days but not on their birthdays? Your parents cannot give their grandchildren the reason they give them candy on other days but not on Halloween?
What are you so afraid of? Let your parents explain themselves. Teach your children what you want them to believe. Teach your children to explain and defend your beliefs like Witness children do at school, with relatives, and at the doors they call on.
If you are really convinced that what you believe is more correct than what your parents believe, teach your children your reasons for what you believe. Your children will be hearing all kinds of things from all kinds of people. Fortify your children to stand up for what they believe (or what you want them to believe).
My Baptist parents talked to my children about their Baptist beliefs. My children told them what they had learned from the Bible at the Kingdom Hall. My mother taught my children to sing "Jesus Loves Me, This I Know." I taught them to sing "We Are Jehovah's Witnesses" real loud for my parents. My mother was in complete awe when she came to the Kingdom Hall for the first time to hear her grandson give his first public talk on a Sunday.
My children all grew up to be dedicated baptized Jehovah's Witnesses while being exposed to all sorts of attacks on their faith and hearing all kinds of arguments against what they believed and having to defend their beliefs and make them their own.
There is nothing to fear if you have the truth.

You left the real truth when you believed satan's ministers and 'dedicated' yourself to serving some wicked men up in NYC.

Your children are DEAD.

One of them committed suicide because he couldn't handle the guilt of being a Jehovah's Witness, knowing full well that he would be shunned by you if he left the cult.
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"My mother taught my children to sing "Jesus Loves Me, This I Know." I taught them to sing "We Are Jehovah's Witnesses" real loud for my parents."

Your mother taught them that Jesus loves them while you taught them pride in themselves and in their religion.

You are a sick, demented servant of satan.

[Duh-boy]

Arkham Bravo wrote:

My three kids come back from spending a weekend with my parents and my oldest comes back asking mommy if birthdays are bad. Then it was, mommy, is Halloween bad. Today, its mommy, is magic bad.
My wife who was not raised a Jehovah's Witness finally in an outburst asked me what the hell are my parents putting in our kid's mind! I could not blame her and will take her side.
My parents have really crossed the line and really should know better! I will have to strongly counsel them on how this is not good for our family and that they should not be filling our kid's minds with their propaganda behind our backs! It is downright disrespectful!

Your parents are raising your children better than you.

[stup]

Duh-boy wrote:

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Your parents are raising your children better than you.

Oh brother!

[acrobat]

It's pretty hard not to expect one of JWs, especially grandparents who have grandchildren that might be expecting a Xmas gift or Halloween candy, to explain that they do not celebrate those things. Not only will they be trying to basically explain what likely appears to the grandkids like odd behavior, ultimately it is every JWs duty to bear witness to our faith at all times in case a loved one might be saved.

Where it crosses the line is if Grandma or Grandpa attempts to indoctrinate or convince the kids that the traditions the kids are accustomed to are necessarily "wrong" or are going to cause them to "die at Armageddon". This is confusing for a child and not really necessary imo. It can be a simple "no dear we don't celebrate this or that we believe differently than your mom and dad".

This is all assuming that the parents have an objection to the kids being witnessed to all the time. I know many grandparents leave books that might appeal to the kids laying around and the kids get naturally curious. If the kid wants to read, why not let them. But it should ultimately be up to the parents, especially with small children. Once they are teenagers, they're going to read whatever they want, anyways.

Grandparents should be aware though that if there has been a bitter divide because of religion and they enjoy the company of their grandkids, getting into it with them might come at a higher cost than they end up feeling is worth it. At the end of the day, if the parents were dealt with roughly along the way, they are fully within their right to inform the kids of how they see it and what happened to them, because obviously they love their kids and don't want to see them go through emotional turmoil themselves. This causes even more confusion in children's minds. If keeping the family peaceful is desired, it might be better to leave the parenting to the parents and just work on being the kindly grandparents that kids need.

[Dream-weaver]

Your parents know their son is a loser. They're simply trying to make sure you don't pass the legacy of stupidity on to your kids. The fact that you're posting this here shows you're too stupid to guide and direct your own step, let alone that of your children.

[FH Chandler]

Stingo wrote:

I would strongly suggest, and this is only my opinion, and nothing more... But I would limit association until your parents figure it out. I'm very hardcore on this in my personal life, as I'm also a shunner. My family will never get to see me again. That may make me as bad as a jw, but it's what works for me. Good luck.

So, just so we're clear, shunning, in and of itself, is not a bad thing.

Shunning is okay when it's you making the decision to shun someone else, or people who are part of a particular group.

BUT when it's JWs who are doing the shunning, it's somehow wrong.

Shunning people for [allegedly] leaving a certain group is bad, but shunning people for being a part of that same group is good.

Am I in any way misrepresenting your position, Mr. Riker, sir, if you don't mind?

[MixedMedia]

Duh-boy wrote:

<quoted text>Your parents are raising your children better than you.

That is totally an opinion. That is also a hateful remark. Do you say that to strangers at the door?'You better let us in so we can save your children from you'. Talk about self righteous. Dang!

[Duh-boy]

MixedMedia wrote:

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That is totally an opinion. That is also a hateful remark. Do you say that to strangers at the door?'You better let us in so we can save your children from you'. Talk about self righteous. Dang!

It is my opinion. It is not hateful. His parents are teaching his children things that Jehovah disapproves of while he is not.