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#1 May 4, 2011
WATCH TOWER SOCIETY LAUNCHES RELIGIOUS ATTACK ON STEVEN UNTHANK

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by JW News on Tuesday, May 3, 2011 at 6:58pm

IMMEDIATE PRESS RELEASE:

WATCH TOWER SOCIETY LAUNCHES RELIGIOUS ATTACK ON STEVEN UNTHANK

A vicious personal attack and campaign of religious persecution has been launched by the Watch Tower Society in Australia against Mr. Steven Unthank in retaliation for his lodging of Criminal Charges against the Watch Tower Society and the Committee of Management for the Religion of Jehovah's Witnesses in the Latrobe Valley Magistrates' Court for alleged criminal offences committed against the Victorian Working with Children Act 2005, as it applies within "religious organisations".

A Watch Tower Society legal officer and senior Jehovah's Witness church Elder recently contacted a Gippsland-based construction company whom Mr. Unthank has worked for over many years, and ordered the owner, a Jehovah's Witness, that he "must not employ Steven on any jobs and if he's still working for you then this is wrong. You have to get rid of him for what he's done."

It is alleged that the Watch Tower Society legal officer then proceeded to religiously vilify and severely ridicule Mr. Unthank to the owner of the construction company.

In commenting on the launch of this attack and the alleged accompanied religious vilification and ridicule, Mr. Unthank said: "We have very strong laws in the State of Victoria that prohibit racial and religious vilification. These laws are to protect everybody, including myself and members of the religion of Jehovah's Witnesses. It saddens me that there are people in society, in respectable community positions, that feel the need to religiously vilify and persecute another. I do not believe the church of Jehovah's Witnesses would support such an attack."

Mr. Unthank refused to comment on whether he has been sacked or had his work contract terminated but did reply, "there are a number of options open to me, including a civil lawsuit or the lodging of a formal complaint with the Victorian Equal Opportunity and Human Rights Commission for investigation. However, a simple apology would suffice."

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Newberry

“Quiet Professional”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#2 May 4, 2011
it's a cult!
Anonymous said

Sydney, Australia

#3 May 6, 2011
Anonymous said...
I just posted this comment on Mr. Unthank's website. Here's the link for everyone that has remained silent.
http://stevenunthank.blogspot.com/2011/05/bre...
Consider this--you don't get attacked unless you are really a threat. I personally believe Steven Unthank might onto something legit. He's silent at the moment. But this is what someone must be after they present charges to the police or the local courts, etc. Logic people. Shame on you'all. Stop attacking the messenger. What if you had kids in Victoria? Would Mr. Unthank be standing up for your kids? I think so. Therefore we all owe him big time. Here is your chance to make a change. Don't waste it. This is what I just sent him----quote me---...
Mr. Unthank's beliefs in child protection and the application of working with children laws MUST be stamped out to prevent it's spread among other Jehovah's Witnesses. The only way to stop him is to persecute him and attack him. You don't attack the message you attack the messenger. That's what cowards do!!!
Perhaps Steven and anyone else who reads this should look up the Insight on the Scriptures book under 'persecution' on page 609.
For those who don't have a copy of these books, it says:
"PERSECUTION. Harassment or injury that is deliberately inflicted on persons because of social status, racial origin, or religious faith and beliefs, the purpose in the latter instance being to stamp out such beliefs and prevent their spread among new converts.
"Persecution takes various forms. It may be limited to verbal abuse, ridicule, and insults, or it may include economic pressure, bodily injury, imprisonment [expelling from a community], hatred, and even death. It may be promoted by religious authorities, or may be carried out by uninformed persons and ignorant ones or by unreasoning, fanatical mobs. But often these parties are only the agents of more powerful and sinister instigators-unseen wicked spirit forces.
"The principle human instigators of religious persecution, however, have been the promoters of false religion."
I applaud Mr. Unthank for standing up to protect our children and our religion. He's in for a battle.
If he hadn't hit the nail right on the head then the society would not have "launched" an attack on him.
They are scared. Many elders I personally know are terrified as they do indeed work with children and do not have child worker cards or police checks.
Everyone is claiming that because the police and the government have done nothing about Mr. Unthank's claims then this is proof that his claims are false.
Yet, we who are Jehovah's Witnesses preach and teach that "the whole world is lying in the power of the wicked one."
So those who are claiming that "the whole world" is doing nothing about Mr. Unthank's claims of criminal offences against child safety laws by the Watchtower Society better go back and practice what they preach.
Of course "the whole world" would do nothing because we all preach and teach that Satan controls them all.
There is absolutely no way that Satan and his demon cohorts would want our elders to comply with child safety and protection laws. They hate kids.
And to prevent this they would make "the whole world" do nothing.
And to stop Mr. Unthank they would commence the religious persecution of him.
Logic people!!!
Mr. Unthank is on to something for the simple reason that he is being attacked by "agents of more powerful and sinister instigators-unseen wicked spirit forces."
Sweet Home Chicago

Australia

#4 May 6, 2011
There are many of us JW's here in 'sweet home' that are following this story. Clearly we do do work with children. The Watch Tower library is resplendid with examples of how elders and other must work with our kids.

If anyone can get a message down-under then please reasure everyone, that Brooklyn is really following this story. They are really concerned as they kow they got it wrong and that those crazy down-under laws do apply.

But rest assure, the good old US of A will not allow any DA from down-under to threaten an American organization.

Still, my own bro., who know a certain WT lawyer named JR Br... tells me they did indeed get it wrong. The laws do indeed apply but as he was told "the earth will come to the woman's rescue yet again. We must protect the work."

Maybe that's why JR Br... drove off into the sunset through the streets of Dumbo in his sports Lexus.

No doubt, yet again, the WTS will put their trust in the courts to fight it. Why noy trust in Jah?

Anywho's just following and letting everyone have my pennies worth and my inside scoop de doop.

Since: Nov 09

Location hidden

#5 May 6, 2011
Is it true that the WTS sent this letter to this company?

“Tight lines”

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#6 May 6, 2011
News Worthy wrote:
WATCH TOWER SOCIETY LAUNCHES RELIGIOUS ATTACK ON STEVEN UNTHANK
http://www.facebook.com/notes/jw-news/watch-t...
by JW News on Tuesday, May 3, 2011 at 6:58pm
IMMEDIATE PRESS RELEASE:
WATCH TOWER SOCIETY LAUNCHES RELIGIOUS ATTACK ON STEVEN UNTHANK
A vicious personal attack and campaign of religious persecution has been launched by the Watch Tower Society in Australia against Mr. Steven Unthank in retaliation for his lodging of Criminal Charges against the Watch Tower Society and the Committee of Management for the Religion of Jehovah's Witnesses in the Latrobe Valley Magistrates' Court for alleged criminal offences committed against the Victorian Working with Children Act 2005, as it applies within "religious organisations".
A Watch Tower Society legal officer and senior Jehovah's Witness church Elder recently contacted a Gippsland-based construction company whom Mr. Unthank has worked for over many years, and ordered the owner, a Jehovah's Witness, that he "must not employ Steven on any jobs and if he's still working for you then this is wrong. You have to get rid of him for what he's done."
It is alleged that the Watch Tower Society legal officer then proceeded to religiously vilify and severely ridicule Mr. Unthank to the owner of the construction company.
In commenting on the launch of this attack and the alleged accompanied religious vilification and ridicule, Mr. Unthank said: "We have very strong laws in the State of Victoria that prohibit racial and religious vilification. These laws are to protect everybody, including myself and members of the religion of Jehovah's Witnesses. It saddens me that there are people in society, in respectable community positions, that feel the need to religiously vilify and persecute another. I do not believe the church of Jehovah's Witnesses would support such an attack."
Mr. Unthank refused to comment on whether he has been sacked or had his work contract terminated but did reply, "there are a number of options open to me, including a civil lawsuit or the lodging of a formal complaint with the Victorian Equal Opportunity and Human Rights Commission for investigation. However, a simple apology would suffice."
END OF PRESS RELEASE
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OK.. I am going to teach everyone on this board how to spot a lie:

1: "A Watch Tower Society legal officer and senior Jehovah's Witness church Elder..."
Notice how there is not a name given. That way, nobody can be contacted to verify these claims.

2: "a Gippsland-based construction company whom Mr. Unthank has worked for over many years, and ordered the owner, a Jehovah's Witness..."
Again, no company name and no owner name. Makes it impossible to verify the claim.

3:(supposedly from Steve Unthank) "I do not believe the church of Jehovah's Witnesses would support such an attack.""
A current or Ex-Witness would not use the word "Church" when describing Witnesses. This actually proves, more then anything else, that the writer is a liar.

Think with you wish....

Since: Nov 09

Location hidden

#7 May 6, 2011
Yes I do agree with you FN, if they do not give you a place to verify their resources, it should not be believed.

“NO, YOU MOVE.”

Since: Dec 06

Republic of Elbonia

#8 May 6, 2011
News Worthy wrote:
A Watch Tower Society legal officer and senior Jehovah's Witness church Elder recently contacted a Gippsland-based construction company whom Mr. Unthank has worked for over many years, and ordered the owner, a Jehovah's Witness, that he "must not employ Steven on any jobs and if he's still working for you then this is wrong. You have to get rid of him for what he's done." Watch Tower Society legal officer then proceeded to religiously vilify and severely ridicule Mr. Unthank to the owner of the construction company.
Proof?

Since: Aug 07

Location hidden

#9 May 6, 2011
The Real Karen wrote:
Yes I do agree with you FN, if they do not give you a place to verify their resources, it should not be believed.
I think most of if not all is fabricated.
Anonymous

Seattle, WA

#10 May 6, 2011
Please Just the wording does not sound like the religion itself. It is totally fabricated, all of it.

For # one we don't have Senior JW. He he he he
For two it isn't none of our business who our people employ.
Three we do not gossip about any body i am not saying it doesn't happen, but we don't on a regular basis talk about any one. it is something God does not support. Thus we do not do it..

So if any one who wants to believe this, that is OK. It is just Satan trying anything because his time is very short here on earth, and his fire abyss is awaiting him.
I believe they are just about finished with it.
Prime

United States

#11 May 6, 2011
Storyteller wrote:
Please Just the wording does not sound like the religion itself. It is totally fabricated, all of it.
For # one we don't have Senior JW. He he he he
For two it isn't none of our business who our people employ.
Three we do not gossip about any body i am not saying it doesn't happen, but we don't on a regular basis talk about any one. it is something God does not support. Thus we do not do it..
So if any one who wants to believe this, that is OK. It is just Satan trying anything because his time is very short here on earth, and his fire abyss is awaiting him.
I believe they are just about finished with it.
ROTFLMAO! Nothing like a contradictory post to start off your day! Storyteller says we don't do that but sometimes we do but God doesn't back that so we don't! You're an idiot!
unlisted

Greensboro, NC

#12 May 6, 2011
fn and the others did you ever hear the word sealed?

is it just possible that the courts have sealed the papers not to identify each side? the elders and the persons kon name???

my how fast those of you who claim to be real jws. jump and say oh this is bulls=== if any of you who are real jws ---you would not be on this forum would you..

there was a civil case recently on a court show. at the beginning on national TV the judge read the complaint and said you do not want your companies name mentioned ? yes your honor.so the plaintiff was not permitted to mention the name of the company.. and the outcome was the plaintiff lost.

i see two problems with this thread

1- Fn and another person states this is bull because someone mentioned something about the jw seniors// do you know for a fact the terminology used in Australia?

probably not why? we watch house hunters international and have learned how other countries use words such as pants ext differently than we do.

2 this person whomever he is must have a nerve big time.. real big time..but for the organization if I read it correctly said to force him out of hos job??? that is illegal. who the hell is the big men in NY or Australia or the jw lawyers to tell someone to fire a person because of this??

and from being here and reading all about the organization and how they treat women and children and teach sex to little children in explicit ways? the parents should be charged how does that sound??? don't like it do you?

i sense some panic and some worry that this man may have something and this may hit America if it continues... and remember the papers may have mad ea mistake.

if and lets say a big if this turns out to be real true and the courts hear it?? then how will you feel about this org that attempts to hide under the guise of being a religion??? did you think of it this way???

every person who or was a jw and left who told why they did EE JWF we wont count yuni.// madJW (although he has not said much about this) immediately come in and call people liars. to me sometimes this is almost as if the men in NY have spies on these boards and when someone posts what happened, they come in and try ot do damage control./ as an outsider looking in the ones here who immediately come in and say this is bull..... i have to ask you..

what happens and how will you feel if this turns out to be true and something big? just suppose and what if it turns out the org is brought out to the public's eyes and people who do not know about the org.. will begin to learn what goes on behind the secret walls??

just a few questions... Fn i thought and correct me if i am wrong that you are a disfellowshipped jw??

you badgered another poster here about the burning of the kh and you kept badgering her until i contacted someone i knew up there and they told me where to find the articles and it was true..

is there a possibility this man may be the person who breaks the camels back and splits open the secrecy of this organization???

and i am not looking for those who will trash me. i am looking for answers or thoughts from honest people here who will explain to me honestly why they believe this man is not to be believed?

Since: Jan 07

Location hidden

#13 May 6, 2011
The whole UNTHANK business sounds strongly of "hype". By claiming there is a problem, loud enough, then maybe you will create a problem. And of you don't then enough people will THINK that there is a problem to have some impact.

It seems that this is just the same old silent-lambs (aka noisy-goats) storm in a tea-cup manoeuvre.

“Tight lines”

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#14 May 6, 2011
I am going to shorten your quotes up a bit simply to save some space.
unlisted wrote:
fn and the others did you ever hear the word sealed?
Why yes, I have heard of that word and, if this were in fact "sealed" then none of us would be reading this at all.
unlisted wrote:
is it just possible that the courts have sealed the papers not to identify each side? the elders and the persons kon name???
Highly doubtful since they had no problem releasing the Steven Unthank.
unlisted wrote:
my how fast those of you who claim to be real jws. jump and say oh this is bulls=== if any of you who are real jws ---you would not be on this forum would you..
Red Herring and absolutly zero to do with the issue at all.
unlisted wrote:
there was a civil case recently on a court show. at the beginning on national TV the judge read the complaint and said you do not want your companies name mentioned ? yes your honor.so the plaintiff was not permitted to mention the name of the company.. and the outcome was the plaintiff lost.
While that is interesting, the "story" presented is just that.. a story. It is not a lawsuit, it is not a legal case. Heck, it is not even a complaint by Steven Unthank. In fact, there is no mention at all of the story teller.
unlisted wrote:
i see two problems with this thread
1- Fn and another person states this is bull because someone mentioned something about the jw seniors// do you know for a fact the terminology used in Australia?
Actually, I never said that. In fact, I gave three very compelling reasons for this story to be false and not one of them was about a "Senior Elder".
unlisted wrote:
2 this person whomever he is must have a nerve big time.. real big time..but for the organization if I read it correctly said to force him out of hos job??? that is illegal. who the hell is the big men in NY or Australia or the jw lawyers to tell someone to fire a person because of this??
Well, you are right which simply goes to show how unbelieveable this "story" really is. Do you really think that the WTS would so something so blatently stupid?
unlisted wrote:
Fn i thought and correct me if i am wrong that you are a disfellowshipped jw??
You are mistaken. Spike and his alter ego likes to make that claim but, he is a liar.
I am not nor have I ever been disfellowshipped.
meToo

New Baltimore, MI

#15 May 6, 2011
florida native wrote:
I am going to shorten your quotes up a bit simply to save some space.
<quoted text>
Why yes, I have heard of that word and, if this were in fact "sealed" then none of us would be reading this at all.
<quoted text>
Highly doubtful since they had no problem releasing the Steven Unthank.
<quoted text>
Red Herring and absolutly zero to do with the issue at all.
<quoted text>
While that is interesting, the "story" presented is just that.. a story. It is not a lawsuit, it is not a legal case. Heck, it is not even a complaint by Steven Unthank. In fact, there is no mention at all of the story teller.
<quoted text>
Actually, I never said that. In fact, I gave three very compelling reasons for this story to be false and not one of them was about a "Senior Elder".
<quoted text>
Well, you are right which simply goes to show how unbelieveable this "story" really is. Do you really think that the WTS would so something so blatently stupid?
<quoted text>
You are mistaken. Spike and his alter ego likes to make that claim but, he is a liar.
I am not nor have I ever been disfellowshipped.
Hey FN,
Don't bother trying to defend the WTS.
Many of those making charges have already expressed their approval of acts condemned at 1 Cor 6:9,10. Just look back over their posts.
Some of the women use the foulest language so you know they aren't Christians.
I'd like to meet a "senior elder" though ;) Maybe that is one who is over 65 yrs old ?
Some of the comments would be laughable if they weren't so pathetic but I guess that is what they learn in Christendom.
My best to you.
Alex

Brantford, Canada

#16 May 6, 2011
Well, I thank Mr Umthank for what he is doing. He's putting himself and his family on the front line in a war against the cult. All I can tell him is that I hope he's prepared for a long fight. He has supporters now, they will grow as the gb agression intensifies. I hope he has planned this out and has a very good counter attack if and when things get worse from the society.

If he is employed by a jw, even the jw's here can admit that his employer will be forced to can him or be df'd. I'd actually like to talk to this guy and give any advice I may have, worthwhile or not. It's taken me 6 years to get to the point where I'm ready to go head to head with them. Watching how they have tried to discredit any critics just made me build an arsenal waiting to be let loose. I'm prepared for a fight, I dare them to escalate things
WT GB

San Antonio, TX

#17 May 6, 2011
Alex wrote:
Watching how they have tried to discredit any critics just made me build an arsenal waiting to be let loose. I'm prepared for a fight, I dare them to escalate things
We beseech you, please keep your silence. We meet at least twice a week to discuss the Alex situation. We are aware that you have the amunition to bring the mighty WT down to it's knees. Please reconsider. If it is agreeable to you we are willing to donate millions of dollars into you account.

WT Governing Body

Since: Mar 09

United States

#18 May 6, 2011
What lies will the haters think of next? Un believable.
unlisted

Greensboro, NC

#19 May 6, 2011
yes nomi all liars we are still here 1975 did not happen.. will may 21 happen? will you post here on May 22 and make some dumb excuse why they were wrong again>

Since: Mar 09

United States

#20 May 6, 2011
Whats youtr problem, Unlisted? Do you have to tear apart everything I say? I don't recall doing that to you. How about you post what you like, and I'll do the same.

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