Jolindberry/Aughra "death" hoax

Jolindberry/Aughra "death" hoax

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“be original :)”

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#1 Jan 16, 2010
Please read the evidense before you judge me! I will be submitting posts from either jolindberry or Aughra from the following threads that show they are very likely the same person.

http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/jehovahs-...

http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/jehovahs-...

http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/jehovahs-...

http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/jehovahs-...

I think these(among other past posts) prove Aughra/jolindberry enjoys having a lot of attention at the very least wich includes a lot of story changing.

I was unsure whether to posts my doubts but felt the negative vibe all her "Experiences" have put on the Jehovah's witnesses merit people knowing the truth and also not wanting her to do this again in the future. Maybe under new names.

I will be shortly showing you the posts that first made me suspicious then after a bit of looking with help confirmed them.

I hope Aughra is honest enough to say she is sorry.

Reniaa

“be original :)”

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#2 Jan 16, 2010
First my suspicions arose on the jolind info thread.

Why would someone posts on a forum in the moment her friend is ill and dying? who would?

here is how it started.

"Hi,
For those of you who know her or care, Jolindenberry was just taken to the hospital. She was waiting for her husband to pick him up and when he came out to the car she was unconscience. They have taken her to the hospital, my son and husband went to get her car just now. I talked to her not 2 hours ago and she said she was on here. Thought you would want to know, I will let you know what happens. "

then an hour later...

Oh guys, I cant stay on here now, I just got the call, she did not make it. Im just in shock. Imsorry to teel you this way. Ill check in tom.

this upset many but it wasn't long before something odd happenned.

JoLindenberry

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Yeah, she was good. She was giving me lessons. She was giving me painting lessons and violin lessons. Very talented person.

Aughra posted as Jolindberry she comes up with a excuse that we on the whole accept.

Then later she tells us about this friend.

Nedoba,
Her real name was Amy, She is who I have referred to on here as Beth. She was 55 and about 5'3, brown hair, brown eyes.

This is important information first we learn her friend is really called "Amy" and has in the past been refered to as "Beth" by Aughra when talking about here, she is also 55.

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“be original :)”

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#3 Jan 16, 2010
First I remembered a thread and here is the thread that Aughra reveals here own name.

Aughra

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|Report Abuse |Judge it!|#293 Thursday Dec 17
Able,

I would like to thank you and Stanley and a very few others who (whether or not I agree) always post intelligent dialog. I do not always agree with or understand your postings, but you never succumb to the name calling and hateful messages so often seen here.
Amy

She calls herself Amy.(which is supposed to be jolindberry's real name.

So we can still try and excuse this by saying both women use each other posts but there is no indication when jolindberry posts a couple of pages on that she had "accidently" posted as her friend.

It is now the we began to start looking seriously at past posts from both Ladies concerning each other.

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“be original :)”

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#4 Jan 16, 2010
oops here is the link to were Aughra reveas here name..

http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/jehovahs-...

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sick of it

Cleburne, TX

#5 Jan 16, 2010
I read the evidence. It proves nothing really, except that you, Reniaa the Pharisee, are having trouble accepting that you are guilty of MURDER on the case of Jolin. You, and Duh-Boy, and all you other self-righteous Jehovahs. You're trying to convince yourself that you're not guilty, but you are. It's hard for the self-righteous to accept guilt, I know. It's hard for you to lift up your eyes and see, after all those years of having your face buried in an Elder's butt. Now circumstances are forcing you to see, and you don't want to. It's your guilt. Face the facts. Murderer! Pharisee! Ass-kisser! Blind one! Now we can add to the list "Weasel", because you're trying to weasel out of all the hurt and pain and misery you've caused. I hope your guilt eats you alive!!!
sick of it

United States

#6 Jan 16, 2010
It's clear that your guilt is already devouring you because you are trying to weasel out of it. Good. I hope it BURNS and gives you just a taste of what's waiting for you!

“be original :)”

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#7 Jan 16, 2010
We have now a tale of TWO DF's this is a long tale and it was started by Aughra on dec 16 on this thread.

http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/jehovahs-...

Aughra

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|Report Abuse |Judge it!|#55 Wednesday Dec 16
Im posting this here because I did not want to start a whole new thread.
You might remember my cousin Beth who was here over the weekend. She's a JW and answered some of the questions.
Well today she is officially Df'd. Apparently a friend in another hall had a child that was being molested, the perp, was dealt with within the org. The mother was asked not to go to police that it would be dealt with.
So Beth goes to her hall and says what is up with that? And they said none of her business, things she was not meant to know or understand. She basically told them to go to hell... I can't even believe this is happening. She went home and one of the elders called her and said she was being df'd. She said you can't do that and they said yes because there were 3 of us here when you became rebelious and appear unrepentant.
I'm sitting here with my mouth hanging open cause this girl has been as far as I can tell the model JW. The poor thing is a wreck.

note first Jolindberry/beth amy is df's on dec 16 that very day! is happening while Aughra posts.

next we have a friend who has a long molestation story whose hubby did it but he gets of scotfree and the wife gets unjustly df'd.

Jolindberry tells the elders to "go to hell" and three of them df here and Aughra is sat with her mouth open in shock at this time.

Note this is DEC 16th

things are hotting up as Aughra is telling us...

Aughra

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|Report Abuse |Judge it!|#60 Wednesday Dec 16
Mega Rude wrote:
Evidently, there is a new reason for DF-ing...
Requiring the organization to be HONEST.
artificial insemination ... omg what is that about? If it is the husbands sperm and the wife's eggs. Where is that wrong.
Anyway Beth is at the hall right now talking to the elders she is going to come by here as soon as she is done and I will update ya.

Note jolindberry/beth is at the hall as we speak talking to the elders.

Aughra is awaiting updates. then on dec 17th she posts the next update.

Aughra

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|Report Abuse |Judge it!|#97 Thursday Dec 17
Real Yuni wrote:
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She's a model witness but told her elders to go to hell?
And they DF her over the phone?....
Ummm interesting.
Alrighty then!
Here we go!
Ok Yuni here we go... let me rephrase..She has always been a model witness. ALWAYS. Until an unjust and unfair AND unrighteous thing happened. She said to me "I pretty much went into shock and told them to go to hell" Yes I can see how she is a horrible person compared to you. The did not DF her over the phone, they told her she was subject to it then ask her to come to the hall last night for a meeting before the meeting. She went they disfellowshipped her for "an unrepentive rebellious spirit". which translated means she saw an injustice, was told to not worry about it, she questioned them and 'became rebellious'. Therefore up until yesterday(don't want to confuse anyone) she WAS a model witness. It is sad and unfair and WRONG. I told her to contact her GB and see what they had to say.

Note until LAST NIGHT Jolindberry was a model citizen and sister.

She did say "goto hell" and got d'd for unrepentant attitude.

Remember all these details as I will next show Jolindberry's Tale.

http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/jehovahs-...

to be honest it is best to read all of Aughra story on here as much of it is removed for jolindas tale including relations with people changed.

The Tale was so far out nobody believed her.

Reniaa
WIZARD

Johnson City, TN

#8 Jan 16, 2010
Only a person under satan's control would start a wicked thread like this one.

You shoulkd be ashamed of yourself, Reniaa.
Pat

AOL

#9 Jan 16, 2010
Reniaa wrote:
Please read the evidense before you judge me! I will be submitting posts from either jolindberry or Aughra from the following threads that show they are very likely the same person.
http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/jehovahs-...
http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/jehovahs-...
http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/jehovahs-...
http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/jehovahs-...
I think these(among other past posts) prove Aughra/jolindberry enjoys having a lot of attention at the very least wich includes a lot of story changing.
I was unsure whether to posts my doubts but felt the negative vibe all her "Experiences" have put on the Jehovah's witnesses merit people knowing the truth and also not wanting her to do this again in the future. Maybe under new names.
I will be shortly showing you the posts that first made me suspicious then after a bit of looking with help confirmed them.
I hope Aughra is honest enough to say she is sorry.
Reniaa
I surely hope that someone would never go to an extreme like that but we all reacted with compassion and love and prayers as we should have and if this was a hoax we did what God would have had us to do regardless and for that we are in a right place even if maybe someone else wasn't .Let's hope that we weren't lied to and yet it would be refreshing to know that no one died .I would presume an autopsy would have been done on a young woman of 55 who was for all accounts healthy and if the story is accurate whatever happened will not happen to one of her children or another close family member . Let's just continue to hold them up in prayer and move on .
tried and true

Buffalo, NY

#10 Jan 16, 2010
That may or may not be true about Aughra. Either way, it will be a seven day wonder and then fade away.

There is just as much proof that you are the Manchester troll... Sally Wheatley, James, ect ect
Shall we have everyone consider that?

“be original :)”

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#11 Jan 16, 2010
Now we have jolindberry's tale of her df.

http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/jehovahs-...

JoLindenberry

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Duh-boy wrote:
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I'm not judging anyone, all I have is the bible. You say you got disfellowshipped for asking about someone else, did this scripture ever occur to you:(1 Timothy 5:13) At the same time they also learn to be unoccupied, gadding about to the houses; yes, not only unoccupied, but also gossipers and meddlers in other people’s affairs, talking of things they ought not.
No matter who that person was, it was not your business to meddle in the affairs as to why the were disfellowshipped. YOu just have to be humble enough to accept this. The truth hurts the haughty, let the truth from the bible humiliate you!
You seem pretty judgemental. First of all I did not get it for asking about someone else. I very humbly went and ask, without asking for an answer then, that they reconsider their decision. I didn't even say I think you are wrong. The person is a relative of mine, who by the way was reinstated. I was not gossiping. I wasn't meddling into why, I knew why. That is how I know it was UNSCRIPTURAL. The truth will hurt the haughty, yourself included. These two elders are the haughty ones. Did it ever occur to you for one second that you might be wrong??? I doubt it. BTW Good and humble one, what are you doing here? You are not a Jehovah's Witness in good standing, and that is a fact.

No "go to hell" and humbly asked for her friend to be reinstted.

I epersonally asked when all this happened. Here is Jolinds time frame.

JoLindenberry

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|Report Abuse |Judge it!|#37 Yesterday
My relative was Dfd in July. I was in Nov. She was reinstated mid dec. yes they had meetings, but she had not been r instated yet. we have not had subsequent meetings since my df. Another CO who knows me well, wrote a letter on my behalf. It was my understanding that there would be a second comm organized different than the one that df me. This was to 'hear' my appeal. This did not happen and the appeal was rejected. now I sit here with my jaw hanging open.

friend df'd in july, jolind df'd in NOVEMBER not dec the 16th so Aughra frantically waiting for her fried to call on DEc the 16th was at least a lie.

but also apparently the friend was reinsted in mid dec before dec 16th even happened.

and this is the day jolind herself has finally had her appeal denied note what she says next

This was to 'hear' my appeal. This did not happen and the appeal was rejected. now I sit here with my jaw hanging open.

apprently both her and Aughra have life changin experiences happen on topix that cause them to have Jaws hanging open.

So who is telling the truth? and why do they both use the same phrases, accounts and ages appently they both admit to being 55.

Only the df tales are vastly different. In fact all that was disbelieved in Aughras initial tale was written out and a gentler more simpathetic and much changed timeframe version was written for Jolindberry/beth/amy.

Reiaa

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#12 Jan 16, 2010
here is some more of Aughras tale if you want remember this is a post done on dec 17th

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|Report Abuse |Judge it!|#103 Thursday Dec 17
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eagleeye2 wrote:
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It sounds like there were four people involved in this situation (if it really happened). Yet, on the basis of what one says, you call this "an unjust and unfair AND unrighteous thing."
How can you say that without having any of the facts?
Here is the story, I have the facts. A man who is a Witness, molested his daughter. He does not dispute this. He has 'repented' and is going to the hall. The wife was told (atleast she told me) that she should let the elders deal with it. The wife also reported it to the police. She was Df'd Monday evening. The reason she said they gave was that she was not obeying God's Spirit directed organization, by not doing as they asked. He was also df'd but since he has repented, she and the daughter should forgive him and go on. The reason Beth knows about this is because it is her sister(the mother). The reason I know what is going on is because the mother is also my cousin as well as Beth. Beth went to her elders and said, I don't understand? What does it matter if she went to the police. He could be doing this to other children outside or inside the congregation. They told her she should mind her own business, that it wasn't for her to worry about. She asked them why it was none of her business when they are part of her family. They told her she should humble herself and take the counsel they are giving her. She told them that it made no sense. What would it matter to them if the mom reported to the police. They could deal with it within the cong as they chose, but he should still be reported. They told her that she was 'displaying a rebellious attitude and they she should 'think hard, about going against Jehovah's wishes'. She said that she told them that she did not believe it was ok with Jehovah for him to be possibly doing this to other children and have no investigation take place and that if he was truely repentant that he would have no objection to the report. She did all of this over the phone. They called her back about 3 hours later and ask if she could come in ahead of time before the meeting to 'talk'. She did and there were 3 elders there and she was told she was df'd and no longer one of Jehovah's Witnesses. She was also told that if she repents of her 'wicked' attitude that she could come back. That's when she lost it and told them to go to hell.
Mind you the fact that the man abused his daughter has no relationship to the fact that he is a JW, in my opinion. The problem is how it is being handled and the lives that are being distroyed in the process. "

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not the first df was on MONDAY EVEENING now the df'd lady is Jolindberries "sister" now. not just friend. Aughra also reveals she is jolindberry's cousin.

unlike jolind berries tale were these are all just friends and it happened in july according to Aughra it hanned the monday before dec 16th.

REniaa
tried and true

Buffalo, NY

#13 Jan 16, 2010
Reniaa wrote:
Now we have jolindberry's tale of her df.
http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/jehovahs-...
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Duh-boy wrote:
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I'm not judging anyone, all I have is the bible. You say you got disfellowshipped for asking about someone else, did this scripture ever occur to you:(1 Timothy 5:13) At the same time they also learn to be unoccupied, gadding about to the houses; yes, not only unoccupied, but also gossipers and meddlers in other people’s affairs, talking of things they ought not.
No matter who that person was, it was not your business to meddle in the affairs as to why the were disfellowshipped. YOu just have to be humble enough to accept this. The truth hurts the haughty, let the truth from the bible humiliate you!
You seem pretty judgemental. First of all I did not get it for asking about someone else. I very humbly went and ask, without asking for an answer then, that they reconsider their decision. I didn't even say I think you are wrong. The person is a relative of mine, who by the way was reinstated. I was not gossiping. I wasn't meddling into why, I knew why. That is how I know it was UNSCRIPTURAL. The truth will hurt the haughty, yourself included. These two elders are the haughty ones. Did it ever occur to you for one second that you might be wrong??? I doubt it. BTW Good and humble one, what are you doing here? You are not a Jehovah's Witness in good standing, and that is a fact.
No "go to hell" and humbly asked for her friend to be reinstted.
I epersonally asked when all this happened. Here is Jolinds time frame.
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|Report Abuse |Judge it!|#37 Yesterday
My relative was Dfd in July. I was in Nov. She was reinstated mid dec. yes they had meetings, but she had not been r instated yet. we have not had subsequent meetings since my df. Another CO who knows me well, wrote a letter on my behalf. It was my understanding that there would be a second comm organized different than the one that df me. This was to 'hear' my appeal. This did not happen and the appeal was rejected. now I sit here with my jaw hanging open.
friend df'd in july, jolind df'd in NOVEMBER not dec the 16th so Aughra frantically waiting for her fried to call on DEc the 16th was at least a lie.
but also apparently the friend was reinsted in mid dec before dec 16th even happened.
and this is the day jolind herself has finally had her appeal denied note what she says next
This was to 'hear' my appeal. This did not happen and the appeal was rejected. now I sit here with my jaw hanging open.
apprently both her and Aughra have life changin experiences happen on topix that cause them to have Jaws hanging open.
So who is telling the truth? and why do they both use the same phrases, accounts and ages appently they both admit to being 55.
Only the df tales are vastly different. In fact all that was disbelieved in Aughras initial tale was written out and a gentler more simpathetic and much changed timeframe version was written for Jolindberry/beth/amy.
Reiaa
They live in the same area and share common phrases.
So what?
Even if your charges are true, so what??
It will all go away in a few days in any case.

It is hilarious that you of all people are crying about someone else making up stories. You've told a few porkies in your time.
Pat

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#14 Jan 16, 2010
WIZARD wrote:
Only a person under satan's control would start a wicked thread like this one.
You shoulkd be ashamed of yourself, Reniaa.
I think since we cannot prove anything we should just continue to hold these people up in our prayers and if for some reason the story is not true we have done what we should do by praying and showing compassion .This is the internet we REALLY never know what is really truth or not and so we should act like Christians when we hear of a death or something else that would cause pain to others .I cannot say that being suspicious of a story and voicing it is Satan but if we simply act like Christians and pray then true or false we have obeyed God in being compassionate and showing Christian love .If someone has died we need to pray and if someone would make up a hoax such as saying someone has died when they have not that person needs prayer as well , either way Christians offered love , compassion and prayers in good faith .One thing we all know the truth will come out sooner or later it always does . Let's continue to hold the family up in prayer and let God deal with it that is my thoughts anyway.

“be original :)”

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#15 Jan 16, 2010
dec 18th

http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/jehovahs-...

Aughra is with beth at that moment and....

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|Report Abuse |Judge it!|#128 Friday Dec 18
Sally Wheatley wrote:
<quoted text>I read on another thread that BY LAW religious leaders MUST contact the police immediately accusations reach them.I would find out if that happened in this case.What an awful thing to happen.
Sally, I don't know if the original intention was to just delay making a report or not to make one at all. You bring up a good point, I will ask her about that. And yeah, it's sad she is a wreck. I've got her here, so she is not alone. "

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In defence Aughra tells us a tale about herself and her own dealings with witnesses.

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|Report Abuse |Judge it!|#133 Friday Dec 18
Gareth wrote:
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If this "story" is true then the elders have broken the clear policies for Jehovah's Witnesses in several important ways.
This is why I am extremely doubtful this is a true story. It contains elements from common false claims that get made about JWs all the time. Often from people pretending to be JWs.
1) JWs are not allowed to call the police.(false)
2) JW elders can disfellowship people on the spot or for any reason.(false).
The society states that calling the police is the responsibility of those involved. It even advises people to do so. It makes it very clear that it is wrong to shelter people from the police in the congregation.
These elders would be having to break nearly every rule in the book to be behaving as described.
So I personally do not buy into this. I'll chalk it up to yet another wild claim looking to spread discontent about Jehovah's Witnesses.
Gareth, It is a true story, I know it for fact. It is in my family. However, this is just one situation. I was not intending to imply that this is business as usual. It's just that it was happening that day and I wrote about it.
But I have to tell you, and I'm gonna pay for this one. That many years ago, I was an unbaptized publisher, and was disassociated, because two sisters went to the elders and claimed they knew that I was prostituting myself at night. It was untrue, but because 2 people said it, it became fact. You need to know, that I believe that the witnesses clean house when they find out that something is going on. I had written to the GB about this, they assured me that they would look into it. There must have been other things going on because the congregation has been disbanded and none of the ones who were elders are elders now. You can check for yourself, it was the Hobe Sound cong. in Stuart Fla.
I hold NO ill will toward the Society. I do not know if they have the truth or not. I am not a witness hater, by a long shot. I posted a story that I have first hand knowledge about and all the ones that I know claim to be witnesses are calling me a liar. So be it.

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unbaptised publisher accused by two sister of being a prostitute and apparently the whole congragtion got disbanddd.

Reniaa

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#16 Jan 16, 2010
reniaa it seems like you are starting to be obsessive. Is it okay for you to be this way yet pick with ones whose lives have been destroyed by the WTS and call them obsessive?

BTW I hope this is not true either way I paid my respects

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#17 Jan 16, 2010
Aughra herself apparently got dissasociated by the elders (according to her this is what they do to unbaptised publishers) and then we have this.

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|Report Abuse |Judge it!|#137 Friday Dec 18
Gareth wrote:
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If two people are prepared to bare faced lie then there is little that you can do. But the benefit of the Bible based two witness rule is that it is very, very rare to get TWO people who are BOTH prepared to slander and lie. Particularly not two Jehovah's Witnesses. But it is not impossible.
However it also not possible to be "disassociated" if you are not baptised. So again, this story does not have the ring of *the whole* truth to it.
What did this "disassociating" actually involve?
The witnesses would not turn anyone away simply because they believed they were a prostitute. Only if there was someone who was a prostitute and refused to stop working would they possibly stop studying with them.
And even then there would be no requirement on the congregation to shun such a person. Likely they would still deliver the magazines in the hope of future repentance.
Gareth, you are incorrect. If you are an unbaptized publisher you are dissasociated. If you are baptized, you are disfellowshipped. If not one who is not baptized, then how does one get 'disasociated'? My brother in law, who is an elder in his cong. said that disasociation just means you can no longer go out on service until reapproved. I was not shunned, I was never turned away. Gareth, you have just put words in my mouth and it surprises me that you would do that. You added information that did not happen, yet you are accusing me of not being truthful. I never said those things.
And I was not doing what they said. So... there was no repenting or ceasing to do. After about 3 weeks the two women confessed, were remorseful and made a formal apology to me, which I accepted. I was reinstated, if you will as an unbaptized publisher.

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Hurray the two Jw ladies get remorseful and admit their lies and Aughra gets reinstated herself.

Reniaa
tried and true

Buffalo, NY

#18 Jan 16, 2010
Pat wrote:
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I think since we cannot prove anything we should just continue to hold these people up in our prayers and if for some reason the story is not true we have done what we should do by praying and showing compassion .This is the internet we REALLY never know what is really truth or not and so we should act like Christians when we hear of a death or something else that would cause pain to others .I cannot say that being suspicious of a story and voicing it is Satan but if we simply act like Christians and pray then true or false we have obeyed God in being compassionate and showing Christian love .If someone has died we need to pray and if someone would make up a hoax such as saying someone has died when they have not that person needs prayer as well , either way Christians offered love , compassion and prayers in good faith .One thing we all know the truth will come out sooner or later it always does . Let's continue to hold the family up in prayer and let God deal with it that is my thoughts anyway.
I agree with you entirely.
If this is a fabrication, then the person who made it needs some prayers too. Love is the important thing.
tried and true

Buffalo, NY

#19 Jan 16, 2010
Reniaa wrote:
dec 18th
http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/jehovahs-...
Aughra is with beth at that moment and....
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|Report Abuse |Judge it!|#128 Friday Dec 18
Sally Wheatley wrote:
<quoted text>I read on another thread that BY LAW religious leaders MUST contact the police immediately accusations reach them.I would find out if that happened in this case.What an awful thing to happen.
Sally, I don't know if the original intention was to just delay making a report or not to make one at all. You bring up a good point, I will ask her about that. And yeah, it's sad she is a wreck. I've got her here, so she is not alone. "
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In defence Aughra tells us a tale about herself and her own dealings with witnesses.
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|Report Abuse |Judge it!|#133 Friday Dec 18
Gareth wrote:
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If this "story" is true then the elders have broken the clear policies for Jehovah's Witnesses in several important ways.
This is why I am extremely doubtful this is a true story. It contains elements from common false claims that get made about JWs all the time. Often from people pretending to be JWs.
1) JWs are not allowed to call the police.(false)
2) JW elders can disfellowship people on the spot or for any reason.(false).
The society states that calling the police is the responsibility of those involved. It even advises people to do so. It makes it very clear that it is wrong to shelter people from the police in the congregation.
These elders would be having to break nearly every rule in the book to be behaving as described.
So I personally do not buy into this. I'll chalk it up to yet another wild claim looking to spread discontent about Jehovah's Witnesses.
Gareth, It is a true story, I know it for fact. It is in my family. However, this is just one situation. I was not intending to imply that this is business as usual. It's just that it was happening that day and I wrote about it.
But I have to tell you, and I'm gonna pay for this one. That many years ago, I was an unbaptized publisher, and was disassociated, because two sisters went to the elders and claimed they knew that I was prostituting myself at night. It was untrue, but because 2 people said it, it became fact. You need to know, that I believe that the witnesses clean house when they find out that something is going on. I had written to the GB about this, they assured me that they would look into it. There must have been other things going on because the congregation has been disbanded and none of the ones who were elders are elders now. You can check for yourself, it was the Hobe Sound cong. in Stuart Fla.
I hold NO ill will toward the Society. I do not know if they have the truth or not. I am not a witness hater, by a long shot. I posted a story that I have first hand knowledge about and all the ones that I know claim to be witnesses are calling me a liar. So be it.
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unbaptised publisher accused by two sister of being a prostitute and apparently the whole congragtion got disbanddd.
Reniaa
Yeeaaah, Aughra was Beth and you were Sally Wheatley... we've got it, Reniaa.Can you let it go now? Take a deep breath and back away from your keyboard. Thank you.

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#20 Jan 16, 2010
apparently the police are also still investigating Jolind's friends molestation case from a few "weeks" ago.

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|Report Abuse |Judge it!|#164 Friday Dec 18
Sally Wheatley wrote:
<quoted text>Thankyou for reply,So the responsibility on jw elders is to comply with the law of the land as regards reporting such matters to the police.The responsibility also rests with the individual/parent/guardian to report to the police as well.And of course theres nothing to stop anyone with knowledge of the crime to pick up the phone as well.Seems fair enough,better than the R/C 's .As regards the case under discussion I find it difficult to understand why such personal matters are posted anyway.What can be gained by it? If it was a recent happening still under investigation ,as seems to be the case,lets with hold critisicm till the local jws and more importantly the police have finished their inquiry and can report the unbiased facts.
Sally,
I was the one that posted it, as Beth, my cousin was here in my home on the phone with the elders. She ask me to post it and ask if anyone had any advice. It is no longer under investigation by the Hall as they have made their judgements. The police are still investigating the incident and to find out whether or not other children were involved. And the only advice we were given was to stop lying.

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to be honest this whole thread makes for interesting reading.

http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/jehovahs-...

Reniaa

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