Just to set the record straight...

Just to set the record straight...

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Since: Apr 09

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#1 Feb 15, 2013
First of all, I keep trying to leave this forum, but it is addictive and there are some nice people here. What difference does it make to anyone whether I stay or go. I do not affect you away from the forum, and if I happen to post here and you don't like it, just ignore it rather than calling me names or saying that I am useless.

I was a Witness for over 40 years, auxillary pioneered, and raised my children in the organization. I left in '98, and attended a Pentecostal church for a time and about a year ago I started to attend the Catholic church and found it fit MY needs. I am just saying what it did for me. I do not condemn anyone else's choices.

In the past I have made remarks, like everyone does on this forum, but then felt bad and apologized to these individuals, I am not looking for trouble or fights, I come her because I am curious. Isn't it odd that you condemn me for what I have said to Nomi, but Nomi does not condemn me--why is that?

If I choose to change my mind and return, that is my option. I am ready for those who will call me disgusting, useless or a phony--but it is God's opinion of me that is important. AND I will post here when I feel like it and there is no one here that can tell me to get the H--- out! They don't run this forum.

Peace be with all the honest hearted ones.......forgiveness for those who are not.
Spike

Boonton, NJ

#2 Feb 15, 2013
emmaswish wrote:
First of all, I keep trying to leave this forum, but it is addictive and there are some nice people here. What difference does it make to anyone whether I stay or go. I do not affect you away from the forum, and if I happen to post here and you don't like it, just ignore it rather than calling me names or saying that I am useless.
I was a Witness for over 40 years, auxillary pioneered, and raised my children in the organization. I left in '98, and attended a Pentecostal church for a time and about a year ago I started to attend the Catholic church and found it fit MY needs. I am just saying what it did for me. I do not condemn anyone else's choices.
In the past I have made remarks, like everyone does on this forum, but then felt bad and apologized to these individuals, I am not looking for trouble or fights, I come her because I am curious. Isn't it odd that you condemn me for what I have said to Nomi, but Nomi does not condemn me--why is that?
If I choose to change my mind and return, that is my option. I am ready for those who will call me disgusting, useless or a phony--but it is God's opinion of me that is important. AND I will post here when I feel like it and there is no one here that can tell me to get the H--- out! They don't run this forum.
Peace be with all the honest hearted ones.......forgiveness for those who are not.
wordy wordy wordy yet so phony, that is you emmawish. you are a liar. you are also a major disappointment and a damn shame.

Since: Apr 09

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#3 Feb 15, 2013
Spike, why do I bother you so much? I have no fight with you or anyone else, yet you slander me every chance you get.
Peace be with you..........
Spike

Boonton, NJ

#4 Feb 15, 2013
emmaswish wrote:
Spike, why do I bother you so much? I have no fight with you or anyone else, yet you slander me every chance you get.
Peace be with you..........
first of all, you fight with everyone here, so that's lie #1 emma. regarding your question- you do not bother me one bit. i just enjoy exposing your lies and phoniness. i have never slandered you, i have only exposed you for what you are.

Since: Apr 09

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#5 Feb 15, 2013
First of all, I do not lie, secondly I do not fight with everyone here, please tell me who I fight with. I just bother you because I know what you are..
Spike

Boonton, NJ

#6 Feb 15, 2013
emmaswish wrote:
First of all, I do not lie, secondly I do not fight with everyone here, please tell me who I fight with. I just bother you because I know what you are..
you have lied multiple times here emmawish, so dont dney that you are a liar. you fight with alot of people here, you dont need me to tell you that. your knowing who i am does not bother me one bit, as i am perfectly happy with myself. your presence here is preferred by me, i dont want you to leave. i have lots of fun with you here. so please, hang out for awhile. your mother would be so ashamed of the milktoast, weak person you are.
Spike

Boonton, NJ

#7 Feb 15, 2013
emmaswish wrote:
First of all, I do not lie, secondly I do not fight with everyone here, please tell me who I fight with. I just bother you because I know what you are..
emma it seems to me you crave the attention because you were a failure as a wife and a mother. you screwed up your marriage and your kids lives and you have nothing.

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#8 Feb 15, 2013
Please provide proof that I lied, and call out the people who I fight with so it can be verified. You cannot do that, you just like to talk or prattle.
My mother is dead, so she feels nothing.
If I don't bother you why do you keep answering what I write?

Why do you pick on the elderly or those who are fighting addictions, there are many others here, but you don't go after them.
Spike

Boonton, NJ

#9 Feb 15, 2013
emmaswish wrote:
Please provide proof that I lied, and call out the people who I fight with so it can be verified. You cannot do that, you just like to talk or prattle.
My mother is dead, so she feels nothing.
If I don't bother you why do you keep answering what I write?
Why do you pick on the elderly or those who are fighting addictions, there are many others here, but you don't go after them.
its all out in the open and if you need to ask where you have lied and fought with people you have truly lost touch with reality. could you be in the beginning statges of dementia? you dead mother (who you yourself are guilty of elder abuse on) would roll in her grave at the phony you are.
I answer you when you write because i answer anyone. i do not ignore. i find you quite entertaining to answer as well. you are quite sad though. you failed in life as a daughter, wife and mother.

Since: Apr 09

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#10 Feb 15, 2013
Spike you are very sick person. My mother lived thousands of miles from me, how could I abuse her. The rest of what you say is lies. You don't know me or anything about me, you are just babbling.
You have failed to provide the proof I have asked for--you can't, and I am done with you.

Say what you please, enjoy your entertainment, I will not willingly provide you with anymore. You must really hate yourself a lot, because you have to put others down to make yourself feel good.

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#11 Feb 15, 2013
I wonder who could be putting up the good icons for Spike and the bad icons for Emma?????

Since: Oct 10

Homebush, Australia

#12 Feb 15, 2013
emmaswish wrote:
Spike you are very sick person. My mother lived thousands of miles from me, how could I abuse her. The rest of what you say is lies. You don't know me or anything about me, you are just babbling.
You have failed to provide the proof I have asked for--you can't, and I am done with you.
Say what you please, enjoy your entertainment, I will not willingly provide you with anymore. You must really hate yourself a lot, because you have to put others down to make yourself feel good.
they want attention and when they don't get it they become more vile to get a reaction, try not to feed the trolls.
Spike

Boonton, NJ

#13 Feb 15, 2013
emmaswish wrote:
Spike you are very sick person. My mother lived thousands of miles from me, how could I abuse her. The rest of what you say is lies. You don't know me or anything about me, you are just babbling.
You have failed to provide the proof I have asked for--you can't, and I am done with you.
Say what you please, enjoy your entertainment, I will not willingly provide you with anymore. You must really hate yourself a lot, because you have to put others down to make yourself feel good.
i dont need to put you down emmawish. you put yourself down. is it guilt over your neglect of your mother? were you seeking revenge on your mother for her abusing you emotionally as a child?

Since: Oct 10

Homebush, Australia

#14 Feb 15, 2013
emmaswish wrote:
I wonder who could be putting up the good icons for Spike and the bad icons for Emma?????
tpmp/sos/spike the icon king troll.
Spike

Boonton, NJ

#15 Feb 15, 2013
emmaswish wrote:
I wonder who could be putting up the good icons for Spike and the bad icons for Emma?????
i dont know stupid, why dont you enlighten us? its not me. i didnt rate you comments at all, and i cant rate my own if i wanted to. if others who are doing it.
TPMP

Bronx, NY

#16 Feb 15, 2013
Spike wrote:
<quoted text>i dont know stupid, why dont you enlighten us? its not me. i didnt rate you comments at all, and i cant rate my own if i wanted to. if others who are doing it.
These people are in their 60's and they are still worrying about silly judging icons.

Just shows how insecure they really are.

Sad.
jace

Bethesda, MD

#17 Feb 15, 2013
emmaswish wrote:
First of all, I keep trying to leave this forum, but it is addictive and there are some nice people here. What difference does it make to anyone whether I stay or go. I do not affect you away from the forum, and if I happen to post here and you don't like it, just ignore it rather than calling me names or saying that I am useless.
just my two cents

i think you are taking ONLINE HANDLES of persons you don't know too seriously

there is no need to get bent out of shape of a few comments folks make on an online forum in which no one here will pay your house note or rent, light bill, gas bill, water bill

this is why i have always encouraged persons to steer away from personal handles that one knows nothing about

instead focus on what the WT HAS IN PRINT
this way you will be talking about something that anyone can read for themselves

many jw do not like when you share personal life exp, as a result they will call you a liar

for example, I like you have been around the org for decades, served in all kinds of roles and been involved in all kinds of organizational matters.

so when i relate a conversation i had with a CO or DO or someone at bethel that is negative about the organization.
I can always count on a jw who due to a lack of actual life exp in this area is clueless, start to shout Liar Liar

i could careless- and the reason is simple
when i came on the Net there were actual Elder, CO, Bethelites, Pioneers and MS IN THESE CHAT FORUMS

SO the quality of discussion over on H20 site was amazing cause nonjw and those who may have not had experiences in dealing with the org beyond the Hall, could literally sit back and watch

4 or 5 elders some in , some out , some on their way out discuss Judical matters, discuss Elders meetings, discuss CO meetings, Elders school

I am talking about persons who actually were there in the flesh

once the society started to crack down on jw for engaging in such forums a VERY CLEAR LINE OF Demarcation was draw.

"Mature JW" literally disappeared froms such forums- elders, ms, co do bethelite, real MOVERS AND SHAKER WITHIN the org forks who actually AT LEAST KNEW WHAT THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT

as a result it left the forums only with JW wannabe, 20yr bible studies and those who would be classified as "spiritual Weak" even by the WT standards

these are the cast of characters who we see posting in behalf of the WT

as a result they lack any real life exp,in judical matters, organizational matters.

So as a Former Society Man as i say, I don't need some Failed JW Bible study trying to explain to me what its like to have grown up in this religion, supported this religion at the its highest levels and instructed others on how to be good little jw

so please don't take these posters to serious in light of many of them lacking any real weight in the pants

enjoy posting and just laugh at folks who attack

as the wt says when one can't argue an issuea they have NO CHOICE BUT TO ATTACK THE POSTER

yes a poster they don;t know anything about

why not ask any poster you deal with to tell you what their LIFE EXP IS AS ONE OF JW

ARE you an Elder, Pioneer, Served where the need is great- when was the last time we seen a jw on any forum say they had Served where the Need is Great-lll
see no exp poster is what we are seeing folks

so there is literaly no need for any former jw in my view to be posting "pity party" threads like the one above

you are free
as i tell my father in law

"you can lay up in your Drawers on Sat morning and not have to hawk worthless books in the Detroit cold weather"

enjoy your life my dear free YOU ARE FREE

THEY ARE THE ONES WHO HAWK WORTHLESS BOOK
Lol

United States

#18 Feb 15, 2013
TPMP wrote:
<quoted text>These people are in their 60's and they are still worrying about silly judging icons.
Just shows how insecure they really are.
Sad.
That's too funny, because you have accused so many people on this forum of judging their own posts and yours, you are obviously worried about it.
Spike

West Orange, NJ

#19 Feb 15, 2013
jace wrote:
<quoted text>
just my two cents
i think you are taking ONLINE HANDLES of persons you don't know too seriously
there is no need to get bent out of shape of a few comments folks make on an online forum in which no one here will pay your house note or rent, light bill, gas bill, water bill
this is why i have always encouraged persons to steer away from personal handles that one knows nothing about
instead focus on what the WT HAS IN PRINT
this way you will be talking about something that anyone can read for themselves
many jw do not like when you share personal life exp, as a result they will call you a liar
for example, I like you have been around the org for decades, served in all kinds of roles and been involved in all kinds of organizational matters.
so when i relate a conversation i had with a CO or DO or someone at bethel that is negative about the organization.
I can always count on a jw who due to a lack of actual life exp in this area is clueless, start to shout Liar Liar
i could careless- and the reason is simple
when i came on the Net there were actual Elder, CO, Bethelites, Pioneers and MS IN THESE CHAT FORUMS
SO the quality of discussion over on H20 site was amazing cause nonjw and those who may have not had experiences in dealing with the org beyond the Hall, could literally sit back and watch
4 or 5 elders some in , some out , some on their way out discuss Judical matters, discuss Elders meetings, discuss CO meetings, Elders school
I am talking about persons who actually were there in the flesh
once the society started to crack down on jw for engaging in such forums a VERY CLEAR LINE OF Demarcation was draw.
"Mature JW" literally disappeared froms such forums- elders, ms, co do bethelite, real MOVERS AND SHAKER WITHIN the org forks who actually AT LEAST KNEW WHAT THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT
as a result it left the forums only with JW wannabe, 20yr bible studies and those who would be classified as "spiritual Weak" even by the WT standards
these are the cast of characters who we see posting in behalf of the WT
as a result they lack any real life exp,in judical matters, organizational matters.
So as a Former Society Man as i say, I don't need some Failed JW Bible study trying to explain to me what its like to have grown up in this religion, supported this religion at the its highest levels and instructed others on how to be good little jw
so please don't take these posters to serious in light of many of them lacking any real weight in the pants
enjoy posting and just laugh at folks who attack
as the wt says when one can't argue an issuea they have NO CHOICE BUT TO ATTACK THE POSTER
yes a poster they don;t know anything about
why not ask any poster you deal with to tell you what their LIFE EXP IS AS ONE OF JW
ARE you an Elder, Pioneer, Served where the need is great- when was the last time we seen a jw on any forum say they had Served where the Need is Great-lll
see no exp poster is what we are seeing folks
so there is literaly no need for any former jw in my view to be posting "pity party" threads like the one above
you are free
as i tell my father in law
"you can lay up in your Drawers on Sat morning and not have to hawk worthless books in the Detroit cold weather"
enjoy your life my dear free YOU ARE FREE
THEY ARE THE ONES WHO HAWK WORTHLESS BOOK
well said jace
Enny Mah

Monticello, NY

#20 Feb 15, 2013
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