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“Family comes First”

Since: May 11

Weston super Mare

#1 Nov 14, 2012
I know that Paul advocated singleness as a good thing. He said that it was good to marry but better to remain single.

The WT advises those who desire to remain single: "This involves guarding against permissive ideas diffused by means of many TV programs, movies, magazine articles, books, and song lyrics. Such ideas are flesh-oriented."

Personally I can see the point of bachelorhood - no wife but maybe lots of girlfriends!

But really how natural is it for a hetero male to totally squash his sexual thoughts as the WT advocates?

Most hetero males have an eye for a pretty girl. It's one of life's great delights IMHO. AND a very natural thing too.

But to force singleness on one self - isn't that what monks and Catholic priests strive to do? Wouldn't such an enforced life-style of repression be ultimately damaging to the psyche?

I knew a few witness fellas who were terrified of females generally who opted for the single life. But it seemed almost a cop-out that pandered to their neurosis.

I dunno. I feel much more comfortable in the presence of your average randy male. Hormones all a buzzin' seems a much more balanced way to me. And it doesn't all fade away in your sixties either..!
bystander no more

Sacramento, CA

#2 Nov 14, 2012
Singleness sure can be a gift for a woman.

"...the unmarried woman...is anxious for the things of the Lord, that she may be holy both in her body and in her spirit...constant attendance upon the Lord without distraction." (1 Cor 7:34,35)
Prime

United States

#3 Nov 14, 2012
LOL! That's what EE has been telling Yuni for years since she can't find a man!

Since: Oct 12

Location hidden

#4 Nov 14, 2012
I don't recommend anyone remain single out of any notion of it being better for them spiritually.

Some people are just more content in being single, but that's a psychological thing.

By far the majority of Christians would be foolish to attempt to impose some vow of singleness on themselves if this is not their natural inclination.
man711

United States

#5 Nov 14, 2012
acrobat wrote:
I don't recommend anyone remain single out of any notion of it being better for them spiritually.
Some people are just more content in being single, but that's a psychological thing.
By far the majority of Christians would be foolish to attempt to impose some vow of singleness on themselves if this is not their natural inclination.
Like anyone cares what you recommend!
Unknown

Adelaide, Australia

#6 Nov 14, 2012
Mikronboy wrote:
I know that Paul advocated singleness as a good thing. He said that it was good to marry but better to remain single.
The WT advises those who desire to remain single: "This involves guarding against permissive ideas diffused by means of many TV programs, movies, magazine articles, books, and song lyrics. Such ideas are flesh-oriented."
Personally I can see the point of bachelorhood - no wife but maybe lots of girlfriends!
But really how natural is it for a hetero male to totally squash his sexual thoughts as the WT advocates?
Most hetero males have an eye for a pretty girl. It's one of life's great delights IMHO. AND a very natural thing too.
But to force singleness on one self - isn't that what monks and Catholic priests strive to do? Wouldn't such an enforced life-style of repression be ultimately damaging to the psyche?
I knew a few witness fellas who were terrified of females generally who opted for the single life. But it seemed almost a cop-out that pandered to their neurosis.
I dunno. I feel much more comfortable in the presence of your average randy male. Hormones all a buzzin' seems a much more balanced way to me. And it doesn't all fade away in your sixties either..!
The context of Paul's writings on this issue had to do with the end being near, that is, the end of the Jewish age, and that is why he stated that it would be better to be single. During that time, the 1st century, the Tribulation period would happen and so it was, as Paul said, the world is passing. The point is that a married Christian would focus on their spouse and not the work of the Lord, and an unmarried person would focus on the Lord's work. It was a huge transitional period for Christianity and so focusing on the Lord's work was important, but obviously not a sin if one wanted to marry.

1Co 7:29 This is what I mean, brothers: the appointed time has grown very short. From now on, let those who have wives live as though they had none,
1Co 7:30 and those who mourn as though they were not mourning, and those who rejoice as though they were not rejoicing, and those who buy as though they had no goods,
1Co 7:31 and those who deal with the world as though they had no dealings with it. For the present form of this world is passing away.

Since: Oct 12

Location hidden

#7 Nov 14, 2012
man711 wrote:
<quoted text>Like anyone cares what you recommend!
Pahahaha, you clearly must, for you've taken to following me around from thread to thread to read my every word!

Still smarting, huh? Would you like another paddling?

“Family comes First”

Since: May 11

Weston super Mare

#8 Nov 14, 2012
Unknown wrote:
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The context of Paul's writings on this issue had to do with the end being near, that is, the end of the Jewish age, and that is why he stated that it would be better to be single. During that time, the 1st century, the Tribulation period would happen and so it was, as Paul said, the world is passing. The point is that a married Christian would focus on their spouse and not the work of the Lord, and an unmarried person would focus on the Lord's work. It was a huge transitional period for Christianity and so focusing on the Lord's work was important, but obviously not a sin if one wanted to marry.
1Co 7:29 This is what I mean, brothers: the appointed time has grown very short. From now on, let those who have wives live as though they had none,
1Co 7:30 and those who mourn as though they were not mourning, and those who rejoice as though they were not rejoicing, and those who buy as though they had no goods,
1Co 7:31 and those who deal with the world as though they had no dealings with it. For the present form of this world is passing away.
Well you certainly taught me something there! It makes sense. But of course the WT picks up on it and applies it to themselves.

Talk about egocentric!
Mardana

Loomis, CA

#9 Nov 14, 2012
Mikronboy wrote:
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Well you certainly taught me something there! It makes sense.

But of course the WT picks up on it and applies it to themselves.

Talk about egocentric!
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Yes, it is amazing how many Scriptures that the WTS applies to themselves.

Humble, huh?
:-)

For example, in their "Revelation Climax" book, they implied that almost all of book of Revelation was about, or fulfilled by the WTS.

And, yes, that is extremely egocentric and self-centered.
Mardana

Loomis, CA

#10 Nov 14, 2012
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Sorry for the double post. I don't know how that happened.
little lamb

Melbourne, Australia

#11 Nov 14, 2012
Singleness is a gift to the one who wants to serve God whole souled

But singleness is not a gift to a double minded person at all..

Paul says its better for some to marry, rather then become inflamed, because not all have the 'gift'

Thats why its a 'gift' because its something many don't have,..and in todays climate with 'sex' screaming at a person on advertisings , television , books and such..it probably be very hard for any one to have the 'gift' but then nothing is impossible for God..and few may still have it.

Since: Jul 10

Location hidden

#12 Nov 14, 2012
acrobat wrote:
I don't recommend anyone remain single out of any notion of it being better for them spiritually.
Some people are just more content in being single, but that's a psychological thing.
By far the majority of Christians would be foolish to attempt to impose some vow of singleness on themselves if this is not their natural inclination.
.
. I think Paul had a bunch of things that made him tic.. And i also think that he spoke of his own accord in more the some of what he wrote.. Inspired only by his own preferences.. Having no spiritual backing..
sick of the cult

Marlinton, WV

#13 Nov 14, 2012
I can still remember in the run up to 1975 how the WT encourraged singlenes and pioneering. We teenagers responded to Paul's words by affirming his writing, " He who give his virginity in marriage does well... He who DOESN'T does better." We tried to find a way to talk the fairer sex into our "New light" and tell them we would help them fulfill that scripture.:)
man711

United States

#14 Nov 15, 2012
acrobat wrote:
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Pahahaha, you clearly must, for you've taken to following me around from thread to thread to read my every word!
Still smarting, huh? Would you like another paddling?
Seriously delusional dreamer!

“Bustin' Myths”

Since: Dec 09

Location hidden

#15 Nov 15, 2012
man711 wrote:
<quoted text>Seriously delusional dreamer!
There's that deep philosophical discussion manny has been looking for!

Phew, so glad you're on this board to step up the theological discussion.

“the truth will set you free...”

Since: Nov 10

Conroe, TX

#16 Nov 15, 2012
acrobat wrote:
I don't recommend anyone remain single out of any notion of it being better for them spiritually.

Some people are just more content in being single, but that's a psychological thing.

By far the majority of Christians would be foolish to attempt to impose some vow of singleness on themselves if this is not their natural inclination.
It's not the natural inclination of Mythbusters and hMMMM to remain single. They simply can't get any.

It's not any better for them spiritually to masturbate, but they're between a rock and a hardon. That's why they're not JWs anymore. Self-abuse has ruined their spirituality.
Mardana

Rio Linda, CA

#17 Nov 15, 2012
Dream-weaver wrote:
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It's not the natural inclination of Mythbusters and hMMMM to remain single. They simply can't get any.

It's not any better for them spiritually to masturbate, but they're between a rock and a hardon.

That's why they're not JWs anymore.

Self-abuse has ruined their spirituality.
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You wrote :
"It's not any better for them spiritually to masturbate, but they're between a rock and a hardon."

"That's why they're not JWs anymore."

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So, are you a JW?

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Since: Oct 12

Location hidden

#18 Nov 15, 2012
Dream-weaver wrote:
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It's not any better for them spiritually to masturbate, but they're between a rock and a hardon.
Out of the abundance of Dreamweaver's murder-inciting suicide-encouraging heart, the mouth speaks:
Dream-weaver wrote:
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"acrobat" is one of Jehovah's Witnesses.
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Someone needs to kill this troll stinking up the forum.
http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/jehovahs -...
Dream-weaver wrote:
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you and others start jerking off to your computer
http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/jehovahs -...
Dream-weaver wrote:
<quoted text>
Why don't you kneel down and kiss my white ass?

I guess you're deeply ashamed of a sad excuse for a shlong, so instead of purchasing pills for penis enlargement
http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/jehovahs -...
Dream-weaver wrote:
For all we know, you were arrested for paying human traffickers for their services.
http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/jehovahs -...
Dream-weaver wrote:
<quoted text>
I don't know who you are jerk-off,
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you're some sick-o stalker who feels he needs to recklessly invade the lives of others.

Since: Oct 12

Location hidden

#19 Nov 15, 2012
Mardana wrote:
<quoted text>
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You wrote :
"It's not any better for them spiritually to masturbate, but they're between a rock and a hardon."
"That's why they're not JWs anymore."
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So, are you a JW?
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What do you think?

Out of the abundance of Dreamweaver's murder-inciting suicide-encouraging heart, the mouth speaks:
Dream-weaver wrote:
<quoted text>
"acrobat" is one of Jehovah's Witnesses.
.
.
Someone needs to kill this troll stinking up the forum.
http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/jehovahs-...
Dream-weaver wrote:
<quoted text>
you and others start jerking off to your computer
http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/jehovahs-...
Dream-weaver wrote:
<quoted text>
Why don't you kneel down and kiss my white ass?

I guess you're deeply ashamed of a sad excuse for a shlong, so instead of purchasing pills for penis enlargement
http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/jehovahs-...
Dream-weaver wrote:
For all we know, you were arrested for paying human traffickers for their services.
http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/jehovahs-...
Dream-weaver wrote:
<quoted text>
I don't know who you are jerk-off,
.
you're some sick-o stalker who feels he needs to recklessly invade the lives of others.
Dream-weaver wrote:
<quoted text>
I can call you dickhead with a clean conscience. That's what you are.

Since: Oct 12

Location hidden

#20 Nov 15, 2012
man711 wrote:
<quoted text>Seriously delusional dreamer!
Ok, prove me wrong then!(slight riddle, might tease the brain)

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