Proof the great crowd are a preistly class

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Tao itness

United States

#1 Jun 13, 2012
The greatcrowd in Revelation 7 are described as a preistly class. Its so obvious that was Johns intention. Writing to 1st cent christians who many of them had been eyewitnesses would see that. Why? 1:There attire. Long white robes were what was worn by the preisthood. 2:They sang in unison before Yahweh. This is something the preists did Lev23:24Num29:1 3:THE CLINCHER-They served God day and night in the temple! Rev7:15 In there desire to be obeyed and put in a hierarachal position over the rest of JWS the leadership has blatantly ignored this KNOWING the 1st cent Christians would see it no other way.
little lamb

Australia

#2 Jun 13, 2012
Yes the whole nation of Israel were a Priestly nation , and they were supposed to be a light to the gentiles...But only a few Jews , Jesus Christ and his Apostles actually fulfilled that commission

Today we know about Jehovah God and his righteous Laws and reminders because Jesus and these Jewish men made sure we had opportunity to learn about and be reconciled to the one true God..

But the organization has completely muddied up the difference between being anointed by spirit to minister a new covenant to others, as Jesus modeled and left his footsteps...which we are to be DOING NOW

And the winning of a crown of Kingship because of conquering the world through our FAITH.
little lamb

Australia

#3 Jun 13, 2012
Jesus is the perfect model

Because in the flesh, he got up in the synagogue and proceed to read Isaiah " that the spirit of Jehovah is upon me to preach the good news to the poor and to the release of the captive...."

He gives us the same commission to go preach the good-news of the Kingdom and heal the sick...

This is his role and this pattern he left for us

When he had fed the crowd, he went and hid from them because they wanted to make him a KING

He never allowed 'flesh' to make him King..he finished his earthly role as Priest...Then after his death he took his BLOOD of the covenant into the Holy of Holies and obtained a deliverance for us..but because he also CONQUERED , he gained access to the Ancient of Days and was given Kingdom and authority, that nations and lanquages should serve him

Thats why only after he conquered could he say " All authority has been given me, in heaven and earth"

And thats why Jesus only gave authority to the faithful slave to FEED his sheep...

They don't receive authority to rule the sheep until he arrives ...

" Happy is that slave whom on arriving his master finds him doing so."

The wicked slave on the other hand, thinks his master is DELAYING and thats when he start kicking the other slaves around...

Its all in the 'arriving' and the apparent 'delaying' that the slave class.. that feeds problems arise...and when you know this lot called themselves 'governing-to rule- body from the start ..you know they didn't walk in Jesus footsteps.
Tao itness

United States

#4 Jun 14, 2012
The mind control technique used by JW LEADERSHIP claiming to be a preistly class distributing Jesus ransom to the great crowd is moot if the great crowd is of the preistly class also.(high control groups must convinse its followers that they are in a favored position above themselves. 'combatting mind control' by Steve Hassaan)
Tao itness

United States

#5 Jun 14, 2012
This is another blatant oversight by the WTS . No JW seems to be able to refute this truth.
red blood relative

United States

#6 Jun 16, 2012
hi jehovah's witnesses........ since you are reading posts involving the word of god, and the holy spirit,....are you responding to the call in the word?....... ummmm

who have the white robes on with the blood of the lamb on them?...... the second resurrection group, or those who are kings and priests, bought from every tribe tongue people and nation, handling the priestly duties before the throne in heaven with all the angels standing around ...?

its a dragnet, god sorts it out later....1... one

Since: Mar 09

United States

#7 Jun 17, 2012
The ONLY Priestly Class, is the "Little Flock", aka the 144,000. The Great Crowd are on the earth, not in Heaven, and have no hope to be.
Tao itness wrote:
The greatcrowd in Revelation 7 are described as a preistly class. Its so obvious that was Johns intention. Writing to 1st cent christians who many of them had been eyewitnesses would see that. Why? 1:There attire. Long white robes were what was worn by the preisthood. 2:They sang in unison before Yahweh. This is something the preists did Lev23:24Num29:1 3:THE CLINCHER-They served God day and night in the temple! Rev7:15 In there desire to be obeyed and put in a hierarachal position over the rest of JWS the leadership has blatantly ignored this KNOWING the 1st cent Christians would see it no other way.
red blood relative

United States

#8 Jun 18, 2012
funny how jws like nomi can just make stuff up.
i guess rutherford knew how gullable people are... most con-artists do.

his corruption was playing right into satan's hand.
matt 24;24....he captured some sheep, and talked them all out of the blood of jesus.

i often wonder why jws go for the "reject christ's blood" spiel...... i come up with possibly two reasons....

1... they think they won't be held accountable or judged, since they are rejecting the offer of the blood covenant.
2... at the same time they think they are going to slide right through the great tribulation with a white robe on with blood on it.

confusing, isn't it?.... its like a spell on them, and they can't tell.

Since: Mar 09

United States

#9 Jun 18, 2012
confusing, isn't it?.... its like a spell on them, and they can't tell.

Not to me it isn't.

Since: Apr 12

Location hidden

#10 Jun 19, 2012
Let the jw be the priests. I'll be the one walking around without a care in the world.
red blood relative

United States

#11 Jun 19, 2012
angelsilv wrote:
Let the jw be the priests. I'll be the one walking around without a care in the world.
walking around in the abyss for a thousand years without a care in the world?.... no kidding?.... you are that confident that after you are let out, you will succeed?

Since: Apr 12

Location hidden

#12 Jun 19, 2012
red blood relative wrote:
<quoted text>
walking around in the abyss for a thousand years without a care in the world?.... no kidding?.... you are that confident that after you are let out, you will succeed?
I guess we'd be in a world of hurt If the jws are ruling in a priestly manner in the abyss, wouldn't you think? That is if I was in the abyss

Since: Apr 12

Location hidden

#13 Jun 19, 2012
little lamb wrote:
Yes the whole nation of Israel were a Priestly nation , and they were supposed to be a light to the gentiles...But only a few Jews , Jesus Christ and his Apostles actually fulfilled that commission
Today we know about Jehovah God and his righteous Laws and reminders because Jesus and these Jewish men made sure we had opportunity to learn about and be reconciled to the one true God..
But the organization has completely muddied up the difference between being anointed by spirit to minister a new covenant to others, as Jesus modeled and left his footsteps...which we are to be DOING NOW
And the winning of a crown of Kingship because of conquering the world through our FAITH.
Only the Levites were set apart to be the priests and servants of the tabernacle.

Since: Apr 12

Location hidden

#14 Jun 19, 2012
little lamb wrote:
Jesus is the perfect model
Because in the flesh, he got up in the synagogue and proceed to read Isaiah " that the spirit of Jehovah is upon me to preach the good news to the poor and to the release of the captive...."
He gives us the same commission to go preach the good-news of the Kingdom and heal the sick...
This is his role and this pattern he left for us
When he had fed the crowd, he went and hid from them because they wanted to make him a KING
He never allowed 'flesh' to make him King..he finished his earthly role as Priest...Then after his death he took his BLOOD of the covenant into the Holy of Holies and obtained a deliverance for us..but because he also CONQUERED , he gained access to the Ancient of Days and was given Kingdom and authority, that nations and lanquages should serve him
Thats why only after he conquered could he say " All authority has been given me, in heaven and earth"
And thats why Jesus only gave authority to the faithful slave to FEED his sheep...
They don't receive authority to rule the sheep until he arrives ...
" Happy is that slave whom on arriving his master finds him doing so."
The wicked slave on the other hand, thinks his master is DELAYING and thats when he start kicking the other slaves around...
Its all in the 'arriving' and the apparent 'delaying' that the slave class.. that feeds problems arise...and when you know this lot called themselves 'governing-to rule- body from the start ..you know they didn't walk in Jesus
footsteps.
How did Jesus take his BLOOD into the heavenly Holy of holies if flesh and blood cannot inhabit the heavens?

Since: Apr 12

Location hidden

#15 Jun 19, 2012
Nomi wrote:
The ONLY Priestly Class, is the "Little Flock", aka the 144,000. The Great Crowd are on the earth, not in Heaven, and have no hope to be.
<quoted text>
Is the 144,000 a literal number as in 144,000 individuals? Or is the 144,000 a figurative number indicating more than 144,000 individuals?

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