Do Jehovah's Witnesses Impose Bans?

Do Jehovah's Witnesses Impose Bans?

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wilson

Birmingham, AL

#1 Dec 29, 2012
Opposers often make the claim that the GB has banned the use of certain items, particularly blood, from the congregation.
They go on to claim that some items "permitted" to be used by the publishers.
These are blatant lies.

Jehovah's Witnesses do not have the authority to ban, prohibit, forbid, permit or allow anyone to do, or refrain from doing, anything they want to do.
Doing so would encroach on the free moral agency with which all humans are endowed by their Creator.

“. . .that no one go to the point of harming and encroach upon the rights of his brother in this matter, because Jehovah is one who exacts punishment for all these things, just as we told YOU beforehand and also gave YOU a thorough witness." ( Thess. 4:6)

Trying to put JWs in a bad light by lying is actually condemning oneself.
Lannymac

United States

#2 Dec 29, 2012
wilson wrote:
Opposers often make the claim that the GB has banned the use of certain items, particularly blood, from the congregation.
They go on to claim that some items "permitted" to be used by the publishers.
These are blatant lies.
Jehovah's Witnesses do not have the authority to ban, prohibit, forbid, permit or allow anyone to do, or refrain from doing, anything they want to do.
Doing so would encroach on the free moral agency with which all humans are endowed by their Creator.
“. . .that no one go to the point of harming and encroach upon the rights of his brother in this matter, because Jehovah is one who exacts punishment for all these things, just as we told YOU beforehand and also gave YOU a thorough witness." ( Thess. 4:6)
Trying to put JWs in a bad light by lying is actually condemning oneself.
Yeah right, save it for the board of elders, and see if it flies.

“Gods love ... poured out”

Since: Dec 06

Sacramento

#3 Dec 29, 2012
wilson wrote:
Opposers often make the claim that the GB has banned the use of certain items, particularly blood, from the congregation.
They go on to claim that some items "permitted" to be used by the publishers.
These are blatant lies.
Jehovah's Witnesses do not have the authority to ban, prohibit, forbid, permit or allow anyone to do, or refrain from doing, anything they want to do.
Doing so would encroach on the free moral agency with which all humans are endowed by their Creator.
“. . .that no one go to the point of harming and encroach upon the rights of his brother in this matter, because Jehovah is one who exacts punishment for all these things, just as we told YOU beforehand and also gave YOU a thorough witness." ( Thess. 4:6)
Trying to put JWs in a bad light by lying is actually condemning oneself.
As I am sure you know, "banned" is used in the same way as one would us it in speaking of laws or other ways, such as, "speeding is banned", "robbing a bank is banned", "not paying your taxes is banned" and etc.

You are free do do any of those things, just as you are free to do any of the things Jehovah's witnesses "ban", and, you are free to take the consequences.

Since: Dec 12

United States

#4 Dec 29, 2012
Wilson, what you're doing is "untruthful."
JACE

Woodbridge, VA

#5 Dec 29, 2012
wilson wrote:
Opposers often make the claim that the GB has banned the use of certain items, particularly blood, from the congregation.
They go on to claim that some items "permitted" to be used by the publishers.
These are blatant lies.
Jehovah's Witnesses do not have the authority to ban, prohibit, forbid, permit or allow anyone to do, or refrain from doing, anything they want to do.
Doing so would encroach on the free moral agency with which all humans are endowed by their Creator.
“...that no one go to the point of harming and encroach upon the rights of his brother in this matter, because Jehovah is one who exacts punishment for all these things, just as we told YOU beforehand and also gave YOU a thorough witness." ( Thess. 4:6)
Trying to put JWs in a bad light by lying is actually condemning oneself.
A Ban!!!!!!! All the time

we have another Ignorant jw when it comes TO HIS OWN THEOLOGY
THIS IS SAD

now come on man you know exactly what folks say when they use the term JW impose Bans

in fact any real student of religion knows what the phrase means

for example for many year the POPE imposed the BAN of eating meat

now did that mean that a Catholic couldn't eat meat ON fRIDAY?

No- what it meant was if the Catholic wanted to be considered by other catholics as a Good Catholic and to have a Good standing before God such a person would NOT BE EATING MEAT ON FRIDAY

IN many religions such as the Holiness down south were i am from women don;t wear pants cause they are Banned-

for years BLACK MALES were banned from position in the Morman church

so when someone says that JW ban XYZ they are speaking in terms of the community of jw and that such matters are condemned as a Sin in the eyes of God

case in point for many years VARIOUS BLOOD FRACTIONS WERE BANNED

IF YOU got sick during the Wrong year as a jw IF YOU WANTED to be considered a good jw YOU HAD TO DIE THAT YEAR

problem of course is 2 yrs later IT WOULD HAVE BEEN CLASSIFIED as a conscience matter and NOT A DIVINE SIN

SO YES jw do impose man made bans that are subjected to be lifted the next year

take this poster her for example -
the poster was BANNED FOR YEARS from remarrying if his or her spouse slept with the Family Dog cause according to this dear poster religion Beastitlity was not grounds for divorce and remarriaged

so yes JW DO BAN STUFF

WHY DO JW LIE???????

or SOME ARE just so Ignorant they just don't know what they are talking about

take your pick
JACE

Woodbridge, VA

#6 Dec 29, 2012
Lannymac wrote:
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Yeah right, save it for the board of elders, and see if it flies.
THERE IS nothing like watching an ignorant jw who talks talking about jw theology and is clueless
JACE

Woodbridge, VA

#7 Dec 29, 2012
borgfree wrote:
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As I am sure you know, "banned" is used in the same way as one would us it in speaking of laws or other ways, such as, "speeding is banned", "robbing a bank is banned", "not paying your taxes is banned" and etc.
You are free do do any of those things, just as you are free to do any of the things Jehovah's witnesses "ban", and, you are free to take the consequences.
excellent post

glad you called this Liar out publicly

jw love to play with word semetics so much, but they are trained by the WT to do it so i guess many can't help it after years of doing it to each other
JACE

Woodbridge, VA

#8 Dec 29, 2012
Kushtika wrote:
Wilson, what you're doing is "untruthful."
is it not sad to watch a jw literally start a thread that is based ENTIRELY ON A LIE

jw in my veiew due to years of indoctrination become so dull in their reasoning skills they will say thing and actally believe they made and intelligent statement

this is why i love the Net Thang, nonjw get to see this live and in color

we can't make this stuff up like this guy posted

giving a jw internet service and a keyboard does no Favor for the Writing dept
JACE

Woodbridge, VA

#9 Dec 29, 2012
Our Resident Liar Mr Wilson

"Jehovah's Witnesses do not have the authority to ban, prohibit, forbid, permit or allow anyone to do, or refrain from doing, anything they want to do."

"Doing so would encroach on the free moral agency with which all humans are endowed by their Creator."

“. . .that no one go to the point of harming and encroach upon the rights of his brother in this matter, because Jehovah is one who exacts punishment for all these things, just as we told YOU beforehand and also gave YOU a thorough witness." ( Thess. 4:6)

"Trying to put JWs in a bad light by lying is actually condemning oneself."

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Does one really need to try to put jw in a bad light?

read what they wrote and hawked to billions of homes as THE TRUTH

my 2 questions are

1. Who was the Jack Arse that had the assignement in the WRiting dept that came up with this BAN???

2.

Which members of the GB approved this BAN for such foolishness????????

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Questions from Readers of w72 1/1 p 31:

*** Watchtower 1972 January 1 pp.31-2 Questions from Readers ***

Questions from Readers

Do homosexual acts on the part of a married person constitute a Scriptural ground for divorce, freeing the innocent mate to remarry?-U.S.A.

Homosexuality is definitely condemned in the Bible as something that will prevent individuals from gaining God's approval.(1 Cor. 6:9, 10) However, whether an innocent mate would Scripturally be able to remarry after procuring a legal divorce from a mate guilty of homosexual acts must be determined on the basis of what the Bible says respecting divorce and remarriage...

...While both homosexuality and bestiality are disgusting perversions, in the case of neither one is the marriage tie broken. It is broken only by acts that make an individual "one flesh" with a person of the opposite sex other than his or her legal marriage mate.

http://quotes.jehovahswitnesses.com/homo.htm

wHAT TYPE OF PERVERT reads the bible and actually thinks that God would forbide and innocent mate from remarrying if their spouse slept with an Animal??

ONLY IN THE WORLD OF JW

Since: Jul 10

Location hidden

#10 Dec 29, 2012
wilson wrote:
Opposers often make the claim that the GB has banned the use of certain items, particularly blood, from the congregation.
They go on to claim that some items "permitted" to be used by the publishers.
These are blatant lies.
Jehovah's Witnesses do not have the authority to ban, prohibit, forbid, permit or allow anyone to do, or refrain from doing, anything they want to do.
Doing so would encroach on the free moral agency with which all humans are endowed by their Creator.
“. . .that no one go to the point of harming and encroach upon the rights of his brother in this matter, because Jehovah is one who exacts punishment for all these things, just as we told YOU beforehand and also gave YOU a thorough witness." ( Thess. 4:6)
Trying to put JWs in a bad light by lying is actually condemning oneself.
.
.To impose their thoughts on others...under the cronic words ..of one must listen to them as the are GOD's voice... Do they ban??? hmm! you tell me.. How long have you been associating?? As you obviously haven't observed much..
JACE

Woodbridge, VA

#11 Dec 29, 2012
Maravilla wrote:
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.To impose their thoughts on others...under the cronic words ..of one must listen to them as the are GOD's voice... Do they ban??? hmm! you tell me.. How long have you been associating?? As you obviously haven't observed much..
his ignorance on display is truly sad

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“Respond to the directions of the organization as you would the voice of God.“( Watchtower 6/15/1957, p. 370)

1928 "The writer does not give his opinion. No human interpretation of scripture is advanced." (Reconciliation, 1928, p. 6)

1931 The Watchtower is not the instrument of any man or set of any of men, nor is it published according to the whims of men. No man's opinion is expressed in the Watchtower.(Watchtower, Nov. 1 1931 p. 327)




"Those who are convinced that The Watchtower is publishing the opinion or expression of a man should not waste time in
looking at it at all...

Those who believe that God uses The Watchtower as a means of communicating to his people, or of calling
attention to his prophecies, should study The Watchtower..." The Watchtower, January 1, 1942 p.5

“Mystical Atheism for everyone!”

Since: Nov 08

El Cerrito California

#12 Dec 29, 2012
wilson wrote:
Opposers often make the claim that the GB has banned the use of certain items, particularly blood, from the congregation.
They go on to claim that some items "permitted" to be used by the publishers.
These are blatant lies.
Jehovah's Witnesses do not have the authority to ban, prohibit, forbid, permit or allow anyone to do, or refrain from doing, anything they want to do.
Doing so would encroach on the free moral agency with which all humans are endowed by their Creator.
“. . .that no one go to the point of harming and encroach upon the rights of his brother in this matter, because Jehovah is one who exacts punishment for all these things, just as we told YOU beforehand and also gave YOU a thorough witness." ( Thess. 4:6)
Trying to put JWs in a bad light by lying is actually condemning oneself.
And... of course ... for a Jehovah's Witness to lie to protect the image of the organization would also be condemning themselves.

You are absolutely right! The Jehovah's Witnesses don't ban anything! They don't have to!

As an example, all they have to do is to announce at a meeting something like "Having cats is unchristian like behavior because cats were worshiped in Egypt. A good Christian will not pet a cat nor allow a cat into his house."

Than when a witness who loves cats fills his house up with a whole bunch of cats he is disfellowshipped. He is not disfellowshiped for violating a ban on cats, but rather, for not being a good Christian.

The determination of his unchristian like behavior was made by a committee making note of the great number of cats in his house.

“Mystical Atheism for everyone!”

Since: Nov 08

El Cerrito California

#13 Dec 29, 2012
To properly understand the above post you have to watch this video:

JACE

Woodbridge, VA

#14 Dec 29, 2012
Grandpasmurf952 wrote:
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And... of course ... for a Jehovah's Witness to lie to protect the image of the organization would also be condemning themselves.
You are absolutely right! The Jehovah's Witnesses don't ban anything! They don't have to!
As an example, all they have to do is to announce at a meeting something like "Having cats is unchristian like behavior because cats were worshiped in Egypt. A good Christian will not pet a cat nor allow a cat into his house."
Than when a witness who loves cats fills his house up with a whole bunch of cats he is disfellowshipped. He is not disfellowshiped for violating a ban on cats, but rather, for not being a good Christian.
The determination of his unchristian like behavior was made by a committee making note of the great number of cats in his house.
i love it

excellent example of how jw like this silly poster play Sementics games with words

its like today there is NO BAN ON BLOOD TRANSFUSION
YOU will not even be pullled into a Judical meeting with Mo Larry and Curly

but in 7 days you will feel like a DFed person when you meet some jw in the store or you need a ride while walking !!!!!!!!!!
wilson

Birmingham, AL

#15 Dec 29, 2012
borgfree wrote:
<quoted text>
As I am sure you know, "banned" is used in the same way as one would us it in speaking of laws or other ways, such as, "speeding is banned", "robbing a bank is banned", "not paying your taxes is banned" and etc.
You are free do do any of those things, just as you are free to do any of the things Jehovah's witnesses "ban", and, you are free to take the consequences.
Don't be ridiculous!
Nobody says: "Speeding or robbing a bank is banned!" Those things are unlawful but are never spoken of as "banned." It is, in most cases, the persons DOING those things that are usually banned. YOU ARE NOT FREE TO DO ANY OF THOSE THINGS because there are laws against them!
Take a look at this search and you might see what I mean:
http://search.yahoo.com/search;_ylt=A0oG7kFfl...

Jehovah's Witnesses make no laws against anything.
If you disagree, show me the laws they made.
We get all of our instructions in writing.
Since you insist at JWs have banned some things, show me where those instructions are written.

If you cannot produce the evidence, then it becomes clear who the slanderer is.
wilson

Birmingham, AL

#16 Dec 29, 2012
Kushtika wrote:
Wilson, what you're doing is "untruthful."
You must have a reason for putting the word "untruthful" in quotation marks.
Where's the falsehood?

Please.
Elucidate.
wilson

Birmingham, AL

#17 Dec 29, 2012
Grandpasmurf952 wrote:
<quoted text>
And... of course ... for a Jehovah's Witness to lie to protect the image of the organization would also be condemning themselves.
You are absolutely right! The Jehovah's Witnesses don't ban anything! They don't have to!
As an example, all they have to do is to announce at a meeting something like "Having cats is unchristian like behavior because cats were worshiped in Egypt. A good Christian will not pet a cat nor allow a cat into his house."
Than when a witness who loves cats fills his house up with a whole bunch of cats he is disfellowshipped. He is not disfellowshiped for violating a ban on cats, but rather, for not being a good Christian.
The determination of his unchristian like behavior was made by a committee making note of the great number of cats in his house.
Can you name the scriptural reasons for which a JW can be disfellowshipped?
wilson

Birmingham, AL

#18 Dec 29, 2012
Maravilla wrote:
<quoted text>
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.To impose their thoughts on others...under the cronic words ..of one must listen to them as the are GOD's voice... Do they ban??? hmm! you tell me.. How long have you been associating?? As you obviously haven't observed much..
I am not asking - I am telling you: They don't ban anything.
They do not have the authority.

Will you just show me the words IN WRITING?

BTW:
What are "cronic words?"
wilson

Birmingham, AL

#19 Dec 29, 2012
JACE wrote:
<quoted text>
i love it
excellent example of how jw like this silly poster play Sementics games with words
its like today there is NO BAN ON BLOOD TRANSFUSION
YOU will not even be pullled into a Judical meeting with Mo Larry and Curly
but in 7 days you will feel like a DFed person when you meet some jw in the store or you need a ride while walking !!!!!!!!!!
You are still irrelevant..........

SHOW ME THE BAN!

Since: Jul 10

Location hidden

#20 Dec 29, 2012
wilson wrote:
<quoted text>
I am not asking - I am telling you: They don't ban anything.
They do not have the authority.
Will you just show me the words IN WRITING?
BTW:
What are "cronic words?"
.
Cronic words... You don't know??? They are words that are said over and over.. Example... Must listen to the FDS as they are God's voice... GOD's Organization... Only ones that teach the truth.. Hello!! the truth ..does not change.. and it does vacillate.. Yet! that..is exactly what the WTS..has done over the years.

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