The Governing Body Does NOT Lie!

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If they believe the tripe that they speak is true, then they're not lying - are they?

Under the heading "Tracing All Things With Accuracy" the 2011 Yearbook states:

"In summary, the Writing Department insists on using only material that is accurate and truthful, even regarding seemingly insignificant details. As a result, "the faithful and discreet slave" can consistently supply spiritual food that brings honor to "the God of truth"."

More interesting statements can be found at this new addition to JW Quotes:

http://jwfacts.com/watchtower/misquotes-decep...
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They KNOW they lie. And the reason behind it is to not lose their position and power. The U.N-NGO debalkle is a prime example. They claim that they became an NGO to gain access to the library at the U.N! This is thoroughly ridiculous! Before 9/11 any org could receive library passes and the papers theysighned was clear what was required of them as an NGO. They had to essencially advertise for them so many times a year and support the UN charter and you can find exsamples online of how they did this. They claim they overlook this language which is utterly ridiculous! Espescially since each year they had to submit exsamples of how they were carrying on 'effective information canpaighns ' for the UN. The articles were cleverly worded so as to know it would appear one way to the UN and another to the flock. This in itself was deceptive and possesing a tricky tongue,one of the things Jehovah Himself HATES!

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They KNOW they lie. And the reason behind it is to not lose their position and power. The U.N-NGO debalkle is a prime example. They claim that they became an NGO to gain access to the library at the U.N! This is thoroughly ridiculous! Before 9/11 any org could receive library passes and the papers theysighned was clear what was required of them as an NGO. They had to essencially advertise for them so many times a year and support the UN charter and you can find exsamples online of how they did this. They claim they overlook this language which is utterly ridiculous! Espescially since each year they had to submit exsamples of how they were carrying on 'effective information canpaighns ' for the UN. The articles were cleverly worded so as to know it would appear one way to the UN and another to the flock. This in itself was deceptive and possesing a tricky tongue,one of the things Jehovah Himself HATES!
and they also get involved with hedge funds!

http://e-watchman.com/home/2012/9/8/the-watch...

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Sos this has all been thoroughly documentated. They recieved THOUSANDS of calls and letters over this. Many that have been faithful for years left and the UN even had to have a recording that confirmed all these things,since they were so inundated with calls. Do a google search and look at the evidence for youre self. E-watchman has some very comprehensive articles with links to the articles and documents. This is not the first time they have knowingly lied to the flock. When they instituted the donation arrangement they stated it was to distance itself from the practices of Christendom,but never mentioned this stemmed from a freind of the court breif when the government wanted to taxJimmy Swaggarts literature and he lost . Could you imagine if they told everyone they had partnered with Swaggart,let alone paying Caesers things and Jesus paying the temple tax so as not to stumble antone. These are facts and are well documented and can be easily found on the web.
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<quoted text>and they also get involved with hedge funds!
http://e-watchman.com/home/2012/9/8/the-watch...
i wonder what else they are involved in that hasnt been exposed. Could you imagine if the flock knew millions a year goes to getting victims of child sex abuse to drop their cases and buy their silence! All these things run so oppisite to biblical principles! Wicked men and imposters will advance from bad to worse.

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Sos this has all been thoroughly documentated. They recieved THOUSANDS of calls and letters over this. Many that have been faithful for years left and the UN even had to have a recording that confirmed all these things,since they were so inundated with calls. Do a google search and look at the evidence for youre self. E-watchman has some very comprehensive articles with links to the articles and documents. This is not the first time they have knowingly lied to the flock. When they instituted the donation arrangement they stated it was to distance itself from the practices of Christendom,but never mentioned this stemmed from a freind of the court breif when the government wanted to taxJimmy Swaggarts literature and he lost . Could you imagine if they told everyone they had partnered with Swaggart,let alone paying Caesers things and Jesus paying the temple tax so as not to stumble antone. These are facts and are well documented and can be easily found on the web.
you are speaking the truth here, as some JW I know DA after they found out about the UN, they actually wrote letters to those that they loved in the KH stating why they DA, that is was not because of immorality or because they hate JW, but could not continue being part of an organization that had dealings with the UN!
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<quoted text> i wonder what else they are involved in that hasnt been exposed. Could you imagine if the flock knew millions a year goes to getting victims of child sex abuse to drop their cases and buy their silence! All these things run so oppisite to biblical principles! Wicked men and imposters will advance from bad to worse.
that is right brother, and all will be revealed, its sickening because many JW are honest and loving people that truly believe all they are told, they love Jehovah and his Kingdom and honestly believe all the GB say, its these ones that I am so concerned about as more will be revealed, but those that truly love Jehovah will be able to understand the scriptures that show that the stupid prophets Ez 13 are the WTBTS and its GB, and the MOL is sitting in the temple of God as a god. 2thess 2

they have become corrupte just like the Isrealite nation.

They have already begun to rule.

Matt 23: 1 Then Jesus spoke to the crowds and his disciples, saying, 2 'The scribes and Pharisees have put themselves in the seat of Moses. 3 So, do whatever they tell you to do… yes, do and pay attention! But don't do what they do, because they talk but they don't [practice what they preach]. 4 They put together heavy loads to lay on men's shoulders, which they aren't willing to live a finger [to carry]. 5 Why, everything they do is just done to be seen by men. For they broaden the [scripture-carrying] cases they wear and make the fringes [on their clothes] a bit longer; 6 they like the first place at meals and [to sit in] the front seats in the synagogues; 7 and they like to be greeted in the markets and to have people call them Rabbi. 8 But not you! Don't [have people] call you rabbi, for you have but one teacher, while you are all brothers. 9 So, don't address anyone on earth as Father, because there's just One who is your Father, the Heavenly One. 10 Nor should you be called leaders, for you have but one Leader, the Anointed One. 11 However, the greatest among you must be your servant… 12 whoever promotes himself will be humbled and whoever humbles himself will be promoted.13 'Woe to you scribes and Pharisees – hypocrites – because you block out the Kingdom of the heavens before men… you don't enter it, and you don't allow others who are on their way to enter it! 14 —— 15 Woe to you scribes and Pharisees – hypocrites – because you travel land and sea to make a single convert, and when he becomes one, you make him twice as much a son of the garbage dump as yourselves.

Governing Body = rulers.

1Cor 4: 8 So, are you already satisfied? Are you already rich? Have you started ruling without us? Why, I wish that you had started ruling, so we could also be ruling along with you! 9 For, I think that God has put us (the Apostles) last on the show as men who are condemned to death… we've become a theatrical spectacle in this world to both men and angels! 10 And while we are fools because of the Anointed One, you are wise in the Anointed One… we're weak, but you're strong… we're dishonorable, but you're the glorious ones.
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Mikronboy wrote:
If they believe the tripe that they speak is true, then they're not lying - are they?
Under the heading "Tracing All Things With Accuracy" the 2011 Yearbook states:
"In summary, the Writing Department insists on using only material that is accurate and truthful, even regarding seemingly insignificant details. As a result, "the faithful and discreet slave" can consistently supply spiritual food that brings honor to "the God of truth"."
More interesting statements can be found at this new addition to JW Quotes:
http://jwfacts.com/watchtower/misquotes-decep...
As I tell people all the time the scary part about the jw and even those in high positions
Many of them believe their own writings

As the wr said when 1975 failed many of the Persons having to to with the wt Publications were disappointed

Why where they disappointed ????

Jesus already told us no man knows the day or hour

So they thought they could figure out the Year duhhhhhhhhh

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<quoted text> i wonder what else they are involved in that hasnt been exposed. Could you imagine if the flock knew millions a year goes to getting victims of child sex abuse to drop their cases and buy their silence! All these things run so oppisite to biblical principles! Wicked men and imposters will advance from bad to worse.
as some WTBT apolgists have said on here in there desperate attempt of trying to keep their corrupt leaders on this fictitional pedisal, they paid those gag orders out because they didn't want vitims to go through any more hearthache testifying.

strange that the average JW would believe it, and this is what the pr WTBTS reps on here want all to believe.
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As I tell people all the time the scary part about the jw and even those in high positions
Many of them believe their own writings
As the wr said when 1975 failed many of the Persons having to to with the wt Publications were disappointed
Why where they disappointed ????
Jesus already told us no man knows the day or hour
So they thought they could figure out the Year duhhhhhhhhh
Jw see themselves as modern day prophets taken out of Jerusalem that suddenly popped up again out of pyramidology. Most don't know this before their baptism and are falsely enslaved to this sect.

You may find this interesting along with the JWs risen out of pyramidology.

The Watchtower Society then goes on to proclaim that they actually share ideals with Hitler's German state. Continuing on in the 1934 Year Book on page 137, 138, we read,

''A careful examination of our books and literature will disclose the fact that the very high ideals held and promulgated by the present national government are set forth in and endorsed and strongly emphasized in our publications and show that Jehovah God will see to it that these high ideals in due time will be attained by all persons...we are the strongest supporters of such high ideals....Now, because it appears that Ger-many may soon be free from oppression and that the people may be lifted up, Satan, the great enemy puts forth his endeavors to destroy that benevolent work in this land."

Our Comment Can you beat this one!?? Rutherford goes so far as to claim the ideals of Hitler and those of the Society are one and the same!! No matter how many statements the Watchtower makes as to its neutrality to governments and politics, the record is clear. The WT Society, at least once in its history endorsed at least one political regime, Hitler's!!

http://www.mmoutreachinc.com/jehovahs_witness ...

Spititism and pyramidology base.....

http://www.sixscreensofthewatchtower.com/3pyr...
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<quoted text>It was False expectations.
Translation in watchtowerese-We are NOTresponsible.
The individual is.
It's called doublespeak and blame shifting.
True.

The Watchtower once said that alternative service was wrong and young JW males went to prison for believing them.

Years later the Watchtower said that "some" brothers' consciences would not allow them to perform alternative service.

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JW's teach, preach, and live the Truth. Are they perfect? No? Do they make mistakes? Yes...like any other human.

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Jesus already told us no man knows the day or hour
So they thought they could figure out the Year duhhhhhhhhh
Aha! Memory jog. I remember that being said on many occasions. It was OK to proclaim the year of armageddon, just not the day or hour.

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Aha! Memory jog. I remember that being said on many occasions. It was OK to proclaim the year of armageddon, just not the day or hour.
well at least they can keep awake for the whole.

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whole year!
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<quoted text>as some WTBT apolgists have said on here in there desperate attempt of trying to keep their corrupt leaders on this fictitional pedisal, they paid those gag orders out because they didn't want vitims to go through any more hearthache testifying.
strange that the average JW would believe it, and this is what the pr WTBTS reps on here want all to believe.
This just shows the gullibIlity of some humans. When has the Watchtower EVER paid out money motivated on sympathy? NEVER! Everything they do is out of self preservation or promotion! The blindness is self inflicted and sad!
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<quoted text>as some WTBT apolgists have said on here in there desperate attempt of trying to keep their corrupt leaders on this fictitional pedisal, they paid those gag orders out because they didn't want vitims to go through any more hearthache testifying.
strange that the average JW would believe it, and this is what the pr WTBTS reps on here want all to believe.
It must be some people like to be fooled! When has the Watchtower EVER came off money except for self preservation or self promotion?! Some people choose to be blind

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Mikronboy wrote:
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Aha! Memory jog. I remember that being said on many occasions. It was OK to proclaim the year of armageddon, just not the day or hour.
Hey! With all the predictions... And the end is around the corner.. Somebody is going to be "right" and say I told you so...

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