Greed and the Watchtower Society

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“the truth will set you free...”

Since: Nov 10

Houston, TX

#1 May 23, 2012
I've on occasions heard the idiot accusation that the Watchtower Society is a “greedy” organization. These accusations are rather baseless because no one uses any money that goes into the organization for personal prosperity. I have family members that have served at Bethel headquarters and have witnessed the living conditionals of the Bethel family. Not even the Governing Body is furnished with luxury items. This feature of true religion stands out in stark contrast with the Babylon the Great, the world empire of false religion.

And I heard another voice out of heaven say:“Get out of her, my people, if you do not want to share with her in her sins, and if you do not want to receive part of her plagues. For her sins have massed together clear up to heaven, and God has called her acts of injustice to mind. Render to her even as she herself rendered, and do to her twice as much, yes, twice the number of the things she did; in the cup in which she put a mixture put twice as much of the mixture for her. To the extent that she glorified herself and lived in shameless luxury, to that extent give her torment and mourning. For in her heart she keeps saying,‘I sit a queen, and I am no widow, and I shall never see mourning. Revelation 18:4-7

The “the desire of the flesh and the desire of the eyes and the showy display of one’s means of life” is nonexistent in the world headquarters of Jehovah's Witnesses.

Do not be loving either the world or the things in the world. If anyone loves the world, the love of the Father is not in him; because everything in the world—the desire of the flesh and the desire of the eyes and the showy display of one’s means of life—does not originate with the Father, but originates with the world. Furthermore, the world is passing away and so is its desire, but he that does the will of God remains forever. 1 John 2:15-17

This is not to say Jehovah's Witnesses haven't done well with their five talents as brought out in Matthew 25:14-16. They've made some investments as would be expected from those entrusted with all the the different aspects associated with advancing the interests of God's Kingdom here on earth.

I've heard accusations of the Watchtower Society investing in hedge funds based on seeing their name listed on a website in some corner of the internet. You may want to check your sources.

Instant gratification and instant wealth are generally the motivating factor for high-risk investing. If no one that administers the money that is donated to the Watchtower Society is entitled to this money for personal use, the desire for wealth can't be a motivating factor.

Not to mention, there are no cutting-edge financial engineers or analysts wired into the global economy that work for the Watchtower Society. There's absolutely no reason for the Watchtower Society to venture into high risk investing.
SOSEXPOSESCHARLA TANWTS

Yonkers, NY

#2 May 23, 2012
oh,

SO YOU DID SEE THE PROOF THAT THE WTS IS ARE INVOLVED IN HEDGE FUNDS.

GOOD

VERY GOOD.

AS LONG AS IT SINKS IN YOUR MIND.

“Bustin' Myths”

Since: Dec 09

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#3 May 23, 2012
Dream-weaver wrote:
There's absolutely no reason for the Watchtower Society to venture into high risk investing.
Exactly, especially since they are gambling with the hard earned money contributed by its members!

“Paradise Earth”

Since: Sep 11

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#4 May 23, 2012
Mythbusters wrote:
<quoted text>
Exactly, especially since they are gambling with the hard earned money contributed by its members!
They are not doing any such thing. SOS is just repeating lies and gossip from enemies of Jehovah's people who make up ridiculous stories from the slightest of evidence.

The Watchtower Society is a NON PROFIT organisation and NO ONE makes money from the Watchtower Society.

ALL those working for the Watchtower Society are VOLUNTEERS and its permanent residents have taken the legal equivalent of a vow of poverty.

The WTS does NOT invest donated money in "hedge funds". This is a made up story based in the fact that the WTS has been keeping a close eye on the economy and the world's financial institutions.

“The proof is in the pudding!”

Since: Aug 09

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#5 May 23, 2012
I certanly don't see any greed. There is no tangible evidence to indicate greed amongst those who take the lead. No mansions, expensive, cars, yachts, etc.

If the motive was greed, the evidence would be unmistakable.

“The proof is in the pudding!”

Since: Aug 09

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#6 May 23, 2012
Hedge funds? You are on the outside looking in and of course opposers think the worse, while those like me don't. If there is something fishy going on it will be revealed and corrected, I'm confident.

Since: Jul 10

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#7 May 23, 2012
Aneirin wrote:
<quoted text>
They are not doing any such thing. SOS is just repeating lies and gossip from enemies of Jehovah's people who make up ridiculous stories from the slightest of evidence.
The Watchtower Society is a NON PROFIT organisation and NO ONE makes money from the Watchtower Society.
ALL those working for the Watchtower Society are VOLUNTEERS and its permanent residents have taken the legal equivalent of a vow of poverty.
The WTS does NOT invest donated money in "hedge funds". This is a made up story based in the fact that the WTS has been keeping a close eye on the economy and the world's financial institutions.
Garth.. you are the blind..leading the blind..
SOSTHEWHISTLEBLO WER

Yonkers, NY

#9 May 23, 2012
Aneirin wrote:
<quoted text>
They are not doing any such thing. SOS is just repeating lies and gossip from enemies of Jehovah's people who make up ridiculous stories from the slightest of evidence.
The Watchtower Society is a NON PROFIT organisation and NO ONE makes money from the Watchtower Society.
ALL those working for the Watchtower Society are VOLUNTEERS and its permanent residents have taken the legal equivalent of a vow of poverty.
The WTS does NOT invest donated money in "hedge funds". This is a made up story based in the fact that the WTS has been keeping a close eye on the economy and the world's financial institutions.
So YOU AGREE THAT HEDGE FUNDS ARE WRONG,

VERY GOOD GARETH,

NOW IM SURE THE READERS THAT VISITED THAT LINK THINK DIFFERENTLY THAN YOU,

THERE NAME IS RIGHT THERE FOR ALL TO SEE,
AND ALSO OTHER BIGTIME CORPORATIONS ARE THERE FOR ALL TO SEE.

I JUST WANTED YOU TO ADMITT HEDGE FUNDS ARE WRONG,

THANKS GARETH,

YOUR SERVICES ARE NO LONGER NEEDED.
SOSTHEWHISTLEBLO WER

Yonkers, NY

#10 May 23, 2012
Duh-boy wrote:
Hedge funds? You are on the outside looking in and of course opposers think the worse, while those like me don't. If there is something fishy going on it will be revealed and corrected, I'm confident.
Go to the link i PROVIDED DUH BOY,

THERE IS NO DENYING IT,

GO TAKE A LOOK.

GARETH ALREADY TOOK A LOOK AND IS NOW SUFFERING SEVERE COGNITIVE DISSONANCE.

“Paradise Earth”

Since: Sep 11

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#11 May 23, 2012
Prime wrote:
<quoted text>Exactly! They're a business with no charitable acts and should be taxed to SMITHERINES!
So you are reduced to editing the words of my post. I suppose being a Catholic they never taught you that lying and cheating are wrong.

Christians know better.

“Paradise Earth”

Since: Sep 11

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#12 May 23, 2012
SOSTHEWHISTLEBLOWER wrote:
<quoted text>So YOU AGREE THAT HEDGE FUNDS ARE WRONG,
VERY GOOD GARETH,
NOW IM SURE THE READERS THAT VISITED THAT LINK THINK DIFFERENTLY THAN YOU,
THERE NAME IS RIGHT THERE FOR ALL TO SEE,
AND ALSO OTHER BIGTIME CORPORATIONS ARE THERE FOR ALL TO SEE.
I JUST WANTED YOU TO ADMITT HEDGE FUNDS ARE WRONG,
THANKS GARETH,
YOUR SERVICES ARE NO LONGER NEEDED.
SOS did not provide a link.

However anyone searching will only find that the WTS attended a conference targeted at the investment industry (not just hedge funds).

This proves absolutely nothing.

It is certainly no reason to go making up stories that the WTS are investing donated funds in hedge funds.

These people like SOS will make up any lie from the FLIMSIEST of excuses.
Prime

United States

#13 May 23, 2012
Aneirin wrote:
<quoted text>
So you are reduced to editing the words of my post. I suppose being a Catholic they never taught you that lying and cheating are wrong.
Christians know better.
Are you talking about this?

Aneirin wrote:
<quoted text>The Watchtower Society is a NON PROPHET for PROFIT organisation and NO ONE Takes money from the Watchtower Society.

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I did you a favor, please point out the lie in that post which I agreed with Gareth!
SOSTHEWHISTLEBLO WER

Yonkers, NY

#14 May 23, 2012
Aneirin wrote:
<quoted text>
SOS did not provide a link.
However anyone searching will only find that the WTS attended a conference targeted at the investment industry (not just hedge funds).
This proves absolutely nothing.
It is certainly no reason to go making up stories that the WTS are investing donated funds in hedge funds.
These people like SOS will make up any lie from the FLIMSIEST of excuses.
Liar Gareth,

IT'S IN THE OTHER THREAD I MADE,

I THINK YOU ALREADY SAW IT THOUGH AND ARE STILL IN SHOCK,

IT'S OKAY GARETH IT'S PART OF THE DEPROGRAMMING.
Prime

United States

#15 May 23, 2012
Aneirin wrote:
<quoted text>
SOS did not provide a link.
However anyone searching will only find that the WTS attended a conference targeted at the investment industry (not just hedge funds).
This proves absolutely nothing.
It is certainly no reason to go making up stories that the WTS are investing donated funds in hedge funds.
These people like SOS will make up any lie from the FLIMSIEST of excuses.
Do you know if they bought any stock in Facebook?

“The proof is in the pudding!”

Since: Aug 09

Location hidden

#16 May 23, 2012
Here is the link: http://www.hedgefundintelligence.com/Product/...
The WT is listed under investors, not hedge funds. What does this mean?
SOSTHEWHISTLEBLO WER

Yonkers, NY

#17 May 23, 2012
See,

GARETH HAD TO BRING THE ISSUE UP SOONER OR LATER BECAUSE IT IS A CRIPPLING ISSUE TO THE WATCHTOWER SOCIETY.

GARETH IS AFRAID BECAUSE HE DENIES LOOKING MY LINK THAT I HAVE UP RIGHT AT THIS MOMENT ON MY OTHER THREAD PROVING THAT THE WATCHTOWER SOCIETY IS INVESTING IN HEDGE FUNDS ALONG WITH:

YALE UNIVERSITY
UNITED NATIONS-BACKED PRINCAPLES FOR RESPONSIBLE INVESTMENT
And the list goes on..........
SOSTHEWHISTLEBLO WER

Yonkers, NY

#18 May 23, 2012
Duh-boy wrote:
Here is the link: http://www.hedgefundintelligence.com/Product/...
The WT is listed under investors, not hedge funds. What does this mean?
InvestHedge forum 2011:

Investors:

Watchtower Society-CULT
POSEIDON-MANUFACTURES MILITARY MISSLES AND OTHER WEAPONRY
UNITED NATIONSBACKED PRINCIPLES FOR RESPONSIBLE INVESTMENT-??????

THANKYOU FOR POSTING THE LINK DUHBOY.

“Paradise Earth”

Since: Sep 11

Location hidden

#19 May 23, 2012
READERS take note of and remember the names of who the liars are on this forum.

After I said this here:
Aneirin wrote:
The Watchtower Society is a NON PROFIT organisation and NO ONE makes money from the Watchtower Society.
http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/jehovahs-...

Prime then quoted my post but changed the words to make it look like I said this:

"The Watchtower Society is a NON PROPHET for PROFIT organisation "
http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/jehovahs-...

These people are FANATICS and will stoop to any lying trick to further their religious agenda. In this case Prime is a Catholic and he thinks he can lie as much as he likes as long as he confesses it on Sunday. Apparently the Catholic God doesn't mind that.

True Christians know better:

Real Faith--Your Key to a Happy Life
http://download.jw.org/files/media_books/rk_E...

Mankind’s Search for God
http://www.jw-media.org/rus/publications/sh_e...

“Paradise Earth”

Since: Sep 11

Location hidden

#20 May 23, 2012
SOSTHEWHISTLEBLOWER wrote:
See,
GARETH HAD TO BRING THE ISSUE UP SOONER OR LATER BECAUSE IT IS A CRIPPLING ISSUE TO THE WATCHTOWER SOCIETY.
GARETH IS AFRAID BECAUSE HE DENIES LOOKING MY LINK THAT I HAVE UP RIGHT AT THIS MOMENT ON MY OTHER THREAD PROVING THAT THE WATCHTOWER SOCIETY IS INVESTING IN HEDGE FUNDS ALONG WITH:
YALE UNIVERSITY
UNITED NATIONS-BACKED PRINCAPLES FOR RESPONSIBLE INVESTMENT
And the list goes on..........
If SOS had a link proving his false claims then he would have posted it here because it would have been easier than waffling on about supposedly have proof "elsewhere" that if only we could find it we would know....

The only "links" anyone will find are for the WTS attending an investment conference. Big deal, it proves nothing other than they attended an investment conference.

“Paradise Earth”

Since: Sep 11

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#21 May 23, 2012
The end time prophecies speak of a time when money becomes worthless.

Jesus told us to "keep on the watch" and I only see evidence that Jehovah's Witnesses are "keeping on the watch" regarding the financial institutions of the world.

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