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“John 4:23,24”

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#1 Apr 11, 2012
Catholic Church says child abuse cases rose in 2011
By Andrew Stern | Reuters – 14 hrs ago

CHICAGO (Reuters)- The number of credible allegations of sexual abuse of minors committed by Roman Catholic priests or deacons in the United States rose 15 percent last year, and the church spent $144 million to deal with the ongoing scandal, according to a church-sponsored audit released on Tuesday.

A total of 489 people reported credible allegations of abuse by priests or deacons in 2011, the bulk of them involving adults victimized when they were children decades ago by now-deceased clerics, the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops said in a report on its ninth annual audit of the issue.
Twenty-one of the victims were younger than 19 and victimized more recently. Attorneys for victims say there are likely tens of thousands more victims who have never come forward since the scandal erupted in Boston in 2002.

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Critics of the church's handling of the sex abuse crisis scoffed at the audit, saying it minimized the extent of the abuse and the culpability of the church hierarchy.

The yearly audit for the bishops identified credible allegations against 406 priests or deacons. In 2010, there were 428 credible allegations against 345 offenders. More than one-third of the alleged perpetrators had never been charged before.

The figures for victims and offenders were twice as high earlier in the decade, then dropped off beginning in 2008.

Twelve accused clerics remained active in ministry pending the outcome of investigations. Eleven percent of new allegations were deemed false.

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Critics such as the Survivors Network of Those Abused by Priests (SNAP) and BishopAccountability.org have said the church cannot police itself, and that the crime of church higher-ups hiding and transferring offending priests is a persistent problem.

SNAP's outreach director Barbara Dorris called the audits "nearly meaningless." BishopAccountability.org president Terence McKiernan called it a "serious disservice to the public by pretending that all is well."

A trial is under way for a member of the church hierarchy in Philadelphia, Monsignor William Lynn, who is accused of transferring offending priests to unsuspecting parishes.

Lynn, 61, is the highest-ranking member of the U.S. church to go on trial in an abuse-related case, though Kansas City, Missouri, Bishop Robert Finn is to go on trial in September on a charge he failed to report to authorities about a priest found with pornographic pictures of young girls.

>>>"Those horrific cases prove that, when it comes to kids' safety, little in church hierarchy has changed," Dorris said.<<<

McKiernan of BishopAccountability.org said the number of priests credibly accused of molesting children since 1950 has now increased to more than 6,100.

Altogether, U.S. dioceses have spent $2.1 billion on settlement-related costs for the abuse scandal between 2004 through last year, according to the report. Eight dioceses, a Jesuit province, and the Irish Christian Brotherhood, a Catholic brotherhood that runs schools and orphanages, have declared bankruptcy since 2004, claiming overwhelming debts from the costs of the scandal.

(Reporting By Andrew Stern; Editing by Cynthia Osterman)

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#2 Apr 11, 2012
Like the jehovah's witnesses, the Catholics are a cult.

The Catholic cult is about 20 times larger than the jehovah's witness cult.

The real contract between the two cults is that Catholics, when they settle with the victims of pedophiles, do not put gag orders on the victims.

Highly condemning has been the settlement of 16 child abuse cases in 2007. The total payout is estimated to have been $13 million dollars plus.

The reason the Watchtower has accepted culpability is that known child predators continued to be re-appointed into these positions of authority by the Brooklyn headquarters of jehovah's witnesses.

An out of court settlement for such a large amount of money speaks for itself. If the jehovah’s witnesses believed themselves innocent they would have welcomed the opportunity to prove in court that their policies were not responsible for hiding pedophiles within congregations.

In an indication of guilt, the jehovah’s witness legal team chose not to allow these cases to go to trial; to do so would have been devastating to their reputation.

Rather they have settled out of court with nondisclosure agreements also known as gag orders, which mean the victim’s receipt of compensation is dependent on them not speaking about the court cases.

“New one man.”

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#3 Apr 11, 2012
They are all to stupid to realize that if they showed no tolerance for the abuse and made the acts public and kicked the perps out, it would do wonders for their reputation.

“I love long division...”

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#4 Apr 11, 2012
eagleeye2 wrote:
Catholic Church says child abuse cases rose in 2011
By Andrew Stern | Reuters – 14 hrs ago
Good morning EagleEye. You know that I always ask you to post the link. Thank you.

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#5 Apr 11, 2012
RtWoL wrote:
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Good morning EagleEye. You know that I always ask you to post the link. Thank you.
Easy to find on Reuters, which is cited at the beginning of the article:

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/04/10/us-...

Pretty shocking, eh?

“I love long division...”

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... and conjugating verbs.

#6 Apr 11, 2012
eagleeye2 wrote:
<quoted text>
Easy to find on Reuters, which is cited at the beginning of the article:
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/04/10/us-...
Pretty shocking, eh?
Can't have the yahoos thinking you're typing it up yourself. How is the weather where you are? It is nice here, although the allergies are picking up noticably.

“John 4:23,24”

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#7 Apr 11, 2012
RtWoL wrote:
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Can't have the yahoos thinking you're typing it up yourself. How is the weather where you are? It is nice here, although the allergies are picking up noticably.
I could never type anything as horrific as the truth in this case.

The weather has been absolutely glorious all winter and now into spring. It got cold last night, but nothing froze. We have tomatoes and peppers planted and all my pots full of flowers. I seem not to be as allergic to the trees currently pollinating as to the ones in February and March. I pity you if you are still suffering. Jehovah did not mean for us to be allergic to the earth, that's for sure!

“New one man.”

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#8 Apr 11, 2012
eagleeye2 wrote:
<quoted text>I could never type anything as horrific as the truth in this case.

The weather has been absolutely glorious all winter and now into spring. It got cold last night, but nothing froze. We have tomatoes and peppers planted and all my pots full of flowers. I seem not to be as allergic to the trees currently pollinating as to the ones in February and March. I pity you if you are still suffering. Jehovah did not mean for us to be allergic to the earth, that's for sure!
No but he seems to have no problem making everyone else pay for what one person did. All that and he knew ahead of time it was going to happen.

“I love long division...”

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... and conjugating verbs.

#9 Apr 11, 2012
eagleeye2 wrote:
<quoted text>
I could never type anything as horrific as the truth in this case.
The weather has been absolutely glorious all winter and now into spring. It got cold last night, but nothing froze. We have tomatoes and peppers planted and all my pots full of flowers. I seem not to be as allergic to the trees currently pollinating as to the ones in February and March. I pity you if you are still suffering. Jehovah did not mean for us to be allergic to the earth, that's for sure!
Fresh tomatoes and peppers? My mouth is watering for sure.

As for allergies: If it has chlorophyll, I am allergic to it.
dee lightful

Pelzer, SC

#10 Apr 11, 2012
eagleeye2 wrote:
<quoted text>
Easy to find on Reuters, which is cited at the beginning of the article:
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/04/10/us-...
Pretty shocking, eh?
it's always shocking no matter who is doing the abusing but more so when it comes from an org that supposedly speaks for God but is also sitting in the seat of Jesus. In case of the WTS it is Satan who speaks to them...just look how they don't have a care for the children as the prefer to gloat and puff themselves up while they ignore their own shame as their own org does the same abusing. Alway pointing fingers at others so as not to correct your own errors. You don't want to see them but God does.

“Paradise Earth”

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#11 Apr 11, 2012
JW Helfer Forever wrote:
Like the jehovah's witnesses, the Catholics are a cult.
The Catholic cult is about 20 times larger than the jehovah's witness cult.
The real contract between the two cults is that Catholics, when they settle with the victims of pedophiles, do not put gag orders on the victims.
Highly condemning has been the settlement of 16 child abuse cases in 2007. The total payout is estimated to have been $13 million dollars plus.
The reason the Watchtower has accepted culpability is that known child predators continued to be re-appointed into these positions of authority by the Brooklyn headquarters of jehovah's witnesses.
An out of court settlement for such a large amount of money speaks for itself. If the jehovah’s witnesses believed themselves innocent they would have welcomed the opportunity to prove in court that their policies were not responsible for hiding pedophiles within congregations.
In an indication of guilt, the jehovah’s witness legal team chose not to allow these cases to go to trial; to do so would have been devastating to their reputation.
Rather they have settled out of court with nondisclosure agreements also known as gag orders, which mean the victim’s receipt of compensation is dependent on them not speaking about the court cases.
This is ridiculous. The WTS have NEVER lost a case in court, and has ONLY settled a mere 16 cases out of court. That's a tiny number of incidents.

Furthermore no one knows how much money was involved. And for a fact the WTS has offered to settle cases that went to trial where the WTS was proved innocent. So the fact that they settled says NOTHING about guilt or innocence.

The anti-JW propaganda fanatics HATE the fact that Jehovah's Witnesses have proved extraordinarily immune to the HUGE problems engulfing many of the churches in Christendom.

They make up all kinds of misleading propaganda to make things seem otherwise.

The truth is that the WTS has hardly ever been taken to court and the few times that it has happened they were ALWAYS exonerated.

Now lets get something clear, some Jehovah's Witnesses HAVE been found to be paedophiles. No one is saying that Jehovah's Witnesses have not had any paedophiles.

But what has been proved in courts time and time again is that the LEADERSHIP have not tried to hide the problem nor have they exasperated the problem in any way. Their policy for dealing with the problems works very well.

Failure on all the above counts and more is what is causing the churches of Christendom to REEL from the legal actions taken against them time and time and time again.
dee lightful

Pelzer, SC

#12 Apr 11, 2012
Aneirin wrote:
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This is ridiculous. The WTS have NEVER lost a case in court, and has ONLY settled a mere 16 cases out of court. That's a tiny number of incidents.
Furthermore no one knows how much money was involved. And for a fact the WTS has offered to settle cases that went to trial where the WTS was proved innocent. So the fact that they settled says NOTHING about guilt or innocence.
The anti-JW propaganda fanatics HATE the fact that Jehovah's Witnesses have proved extraordinarily immune to the HUGE problems engulfing many of the churches in Christendom.
They make up all kinds of misleading propaganda to make things seem otherwise.
The truth is that the WTS has hardly ever been taken to court and the few times that it has happened they were ALWAYS exonerated.
Now lets get something clear, some Jehovah's Witnesses HAVE been found to be paedophiles. No one is saying that Jehovah's Witnesses have not had any paedophiles.
But what has been proved in courts time and time again is that the LEADERSHIP have not tried to hide the problem nor have they exasperated the problem in any way. Their policy for dealing with the problems works very well.
Failure on all the above counts and more is what is causing the churches of Christendom to REEL from the legal actions taken against them time and time and time again.
The numbers do not excuse an org that that says it is Gods' mouthpiece and is mankind's salvation, which by the way proves they are no different than any other org and therefore lie when they say they are gods' mouthpiece.
All cases that were settled out of court are cases that ate lost, whether you want to believe it or not. It has proven they are not immune to a problem that affect all people in all walks of life.
The WTS is no better because the numbers are smaller because the org is smaller...DUHHHH.
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Greensboro, NC

#14 Apr 11, 2012
how would you know gareth your not a jw. and hey lets all post the filth this org is guilty of but hides behind the no window walls.. and oh man what about the elder who slit his wife's neck not once not twice but several times....... see how dumb she really is opening up cans of worms the devil controls her heart... god help her ... the Devil has he in his grips i pray she is saved.

or the guy on the most wanted list for molesting children and the men in the org who are free to continue to molest because the elders and followers are so scared to turn them in so they allow gods children to be molested.

the catholic church will pay big time... more are going to prison but this org... they still prey don't they... how sick is that to harbor child molesters???

she loves to spill hate not as a jw but as a baptist i hope she is not one as i read here. she does not belong in the arms of the Lord she needs to have the devil out of her body.. first to mock a person who has passed from cancer now again to preach hate about the catholic s.. so i guess it is open day we can all now post here what is going on in this org.... murders rapes beatings child beatings men having affairs. elders murdering.. wow.. no better than the priests but at least those of us who have intelligence know how to read newspapers

“LADY WARRIOR”

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THUG HUNTER

#15 Apr 11, 2012
eagleeye2 wrote:
<quoted text>
Easy to find on Reuters, which is cited at the beginning of the article:
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/04/10/us-...
Pretty shocking, eh?
Yes, it is very shocking.

“LADY WARRIOR”

Since: Apr 11

THUG HUNTER

#16 Apr 11, 2012
Seems that the ani-JW crowd on this forum have no genuine concern for world wide child abuse and molestation.

Especially the high abuse from the clergy of the Catholic church.

They are on a mission to attack and discredit and point a finger to one religion only. The only religion with the least of these crimes.

They prove that they have no genuine interest in the crimes of this nature.

How sad is that?

Soon, Jehovah will take action when he removes all evil from this world.

“John 4:23,24”

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#17 Apr 11, 2012
Crystal Chanda Cassadine wrote:
Seems that the ani-JW crowd on this forum have no genuine concern for world wide child abuse and molestation.
Especially the high abuse from the clergy of the Catholic church.
They are on a mission to attack and discredit and point a finger to one religion only. The only religion with the least of these crimes.
They prove that they have no genuine interest in the crimes of this nature.
How sad is that?
Soon, Jehovah will take action when he removes all evil from this world.
Nope. No outcry, nothing. Catholics can abuse and torture children as much as they want. The anti-Witnesses are not concerned about those hundreds of thousands of innocent little souls.

“LADY WARRIOR”

Since: Apr 11

THUG HUNTER

#18 Apr 11, 2012
eagleeye2 wrote:
<quoted text>
Easy to find on Reuters, which is cited at the beginning of the article:
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/04/10/us-...
Pretty shocking, eh?
Under Catholic church abuse, it is the top news articles, again.

“LADY WARRIOR”

Since: Apr 11

THUG HUNTER

#19 Apr 11, 2012
eagleeye2 wrote:
<quoted text>
Nope. No outcry, nothing. Catholics can abuse and torture children as much as they want. The anti-Witnesses are not concerned about those hundreds of thousands of innocent little souls.
There's also an article like the one you posted, except it's for 2010.

So 2010 was not much better.
Tao itnes

United States

#20 Apr 11, 2012
No one here excused the Catholic church. You guys have a persecution complex planted in youe minds by lieing diviners Ezekiel 13you have not earnestly remembered me....Did you not commit this lewdness inaddition to your other abominations...You are your spiritual mothers daughter you loathed your husbsnd and your children...,but you were more corrupt inyour ways then their sin,AS THOSE TAUGHT BY GOD ,is far blacker than theirs....pride..neither did she strengthen the hand of the poor and needy..and they were haughty & commited abominable offences before me. Eze 16 BTecause They speak in the name of Jehovah and are those taught by God they ARE more guilty-Gods way of looking at it-if you care.
Tao itnes

United States

#21 Apr 12, 2012
Aneirin wrote:
<quoted text>
This is ridiculous. The WTS have NEVER lost a case in court, and has ONLY settled a mere 16 cases out of court. That's a tiny number of incidents.
Furthermore no one knows how much money was involved. And for a fact the WTS has offered to settle cases that went to trial where the WTS was proved innocent. So the fact that they settled says NOTHING about guilt or innocence.
The anti-JW propaganda fanatics HATE the fact that Jehovah's Witnesses have proved extraordinarily immune to the HUGE problems engulfing many of the churches in Christendom.
They make up all kinds of misleading propaganda to make things seem otherwise.
The truth is that the WTS has hardly ever been taken to court and the few times that it has happened they were ALWAYS exonerated.
Now lets get something clear, some Jehovah's Witnesses HAVE been found to be paedophiles. No one is saying that Jehovah's Witnesses have not had any paedophiles.
But what has been proved in courts time and time again is that the LEADERSHIP have not tried to hide the problem nor have they exasperated the problem in any way. Their policy for dealing with the problems works very well.
Failure on all the above counts and more is what is causing the churches of Christendom to REEL from the legal actions taken against them time and time and time again.
Do you realise that JWS claim to be in spiritual paradise? The Bible also calls it the Highway Of Holiness.(Isa 35:8] This is the condition of Gods people when Christ returns.It says NO ONE unclean will pass over it . As for predatory men it says NONE Will be found there. So you claim only 16 are there. You KNOW there are more. We knew of 4 child molesters that were active baptised JWs when I was a kid. Another elder would sneak into people houses break stuff then call on the people to do handy man work.I knew of six men that physically abused their children . Two were elders ,one was an ms. Two sister owned a duplex and got caught stealing from JWs that lived there. This was just the

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