Can A Trinitarian Be Saved?
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the name of my dog is SAM

Philadelphia, PA

#1 Jul 1, 2012
ask a trinitarian if they believe Jesus dies for their sins and they will say YES.

Ask a Trinitarian id Jesus is God they will say YES

Ask a trinatarian if God can die they will say NO

they will say the human part of Jesus dies but the God part of Jesus did not die.

Well if jesus was partly alive that was not a death.

Main Entry: die  [dahy] Show IPA/daɪ/ Show Spelled
Part of Speech: verb
Definition: pass away; stop living
Synonyms: be no more, be taken, breathe one's last, cease to exist, conk, croak, decease, demise, depart, drop, drop off, drown, expire, finish, kick the bucket, perish, relinquish life, rest in peace, succumb, suffocate

Antonyms: be born, begin, live

Dear Trinitarians,
it time to accept Jesus death as you sacrifice for your sins and stop believinf in this silly 1/2 death 1/2 sacrifice which will never get you saved and plays right into Satans hands.
REJECT THE FALSE PAGAN TRINITY DOCTRINE
and get saved!!!
Self Righteous Topsy

Houston, TX

#2 Jul 1, 2012
I think we all underestimate GOD.....
the name of my dog is SAM

Philadelphia, PA

#4 Jul 1, 2012
Self Righteous Topsy wrote:
I think we all underestimate GOD.....
Sam>>
You have to have faith in the one true God (Deut 6:4) not in a group of Gods you know 3 Gods make 1 God.

(Isaiah 43:10). . .Before me there was no God formed, and after me there continued to be none. . .

see that no Gods but one Jehovah the trintiy just leads you into satans hands.

(Psalm 83:18) 18 That people may know that you, whose name is Jehovah, You alone are the Most High over all the earth.

see this only Jehovah is most high over all the earth the holy Spirit or Jesus is never called the most high.

REJECT THE TRINITY TO BE SAVED ACCEPT JESUS FULL DEATH AS YOUR SACRIFICE.
remember God can not die.
red blood relative

United States

#5 Jul 1, 2012
hey satan, you sound like you don't like the father and the son and the holy gohst... is it true?
the name of my dog is SAM

Philadelphia, PA

#6 Jul 1, 2012
red blood relative wrote:
hey satan, you sound like you don't like the father and the son and the holy gohst... is it true?
Sam>>
Oh to start off with an insult for telling you the truth sound like you have no class at all

I LOVE the Father with my whole
heart (Mark 12:30) the one and only true God (Exodus 6:3;
psalms 83:18;John 17:1,3;1cor 8:6;Eph 4:6;Deut 6:4)I love Jesus Christ my lord and personal savior (John 3:16;Acts 4:12) and I believe in the holy spitit (Genesis 1:2;1Peter 1:21)

But they are all not God in no way can 3 Gods make 1 God.
You must reject the 1/2 dearh 1/2 sacrifice of Christ Because God can not die.I heard it all before the God part of christ did not die.
REJECT THE LIE OF THE TRINITY AND GET SAVED, ACCEPT CHRIST`S FULL DEATH AS YOUR SACRIFICE AND GET SAVED
the name of my dog is SAM

Philadelphia, PA

#7 Jul 1, 2012
Psalm 90:2
Easy-to-Read Version (ERV)
2 You were God before the mountains were born,
before the earth and the world were made.
You have always been and will always be God!
You see God can not Die.So if Jesus was God ,God would have had to die because Jesus died and there is no way to get around it.
REJECT THE TRINITY AND THE TEACHING THAT THE GOD PART OF JESUS DID NOT DIE.LEAVING YOU WITH 1/2 OF A SACRIFICE OR IN PLAIN WORDS NO SACRIFICE ACCEPT THE FULL DEATH OF cHRIST AND REJECT THIS FALSE TRINITY TEACHING.
red blood relative

United States

#8 Jul 1, 2012
hey jehovah's witness's.... it sure sounds like sammy the dog hates the holy spirit and the son and the father who are all one,, even though he claims to love them.

it seems clear to me that he is a tricky talking snake who doesn't love them, since he knows they are ONE, but denys it, because he hates them.

he says they are ONE, but then he claims its wicked to believe they are one.

only snakes do that kind of tricky talk, jehovah's witnesses.
.....satan is a sneaky snake liar, who hates the father the son and the holy spirit, who are all one.
Self Righteous Topsy

Houston, TX

#9 Jul 1, 2012
the name of my dog is SAM wrote:
<quoted text>
Sam>>
You have to have faith in the one true God (Deut 6:4) not in a group of Gods you know 3 Gods make 1 God.
(Isaiah 43:10). . .Before me there was no God formed, and after me there continued to be none. . .
see that no Gods but one Jehovah the trintiy just leads you into satans hands.
(Psalm 83:18) 18 That people may know that you, whose name is Jehovah, You alone are the Most High over all the earth.
see this only Jehovah is most high over all the earth the holy Spirit or Jesus is never called the most high.
REJECT THE TRINITY TO BE SAVED ACCEPT JESUS FULL DEATH AS YOUR SACRIFICE.
remember God can not die.
I'm not a Trinitarian, but I am also not presumptous enough to put myself in the judgement seat of Jesus and decide who will and who wont be saved.

While both sides duck behind thier wall of dogma waiting to be vindicated at "Judgement Day" GOD still works in all of our lives.
Self Righteous Topsy

Houston, TX

#10 Jul 1, 2012
While SAM and RBR try nailing Jello to a tree HIS purpose still goes on.....

Since: Dec 06

Bethlehem, NH

#11 Jul 1, 2012
the name of my dog is SAM wrote:
ask a trinitarian if they believe Jesus dies for their sins and they will say YES.
Right
the name of my dog is SAM wrote:
Ask a Trinitarian id Jesus is God they will say YES
Right. Coincidently John 1:1-3 says that Jesus is the uncreated creator God. Revelation 5 shows Jesus being worshiped, Colossians 1:16-17 teaches that everything was created by, through, and for Jesus, and it tells us everything is held together by Jesus. And we have Jehovah, in the book of Zechariah 12:10 predicting that one day the people of Jerusalem will see HIM pierced...
It sounds to me as if the Bible considers Jesus God
the name of my dog is SAM wrote:
Ask a trinatarian if God can die they will say NO
Right
the name of my dog is SAM wrote:
they will say the human part of Jesus dies but the God part of Jesus did not die.
The "human part"? Philippians 2:7 teaches that Jesus emptied himself and took on the "form of a slave taking on the likeness of men." The man that he became died on the cross.

Since: Dec 06

Bethlehem, NH

#12 Jul 1, 2012
the name of my dog is SAM wrote:
Well if jesus was partly alive that was not a death.
Main Entry: die &#8194;[dahy] Show IPA/da&#618;/ Show Spelled
Part of Speech: verb
Definition: pass away; stop living
Synonyms: be no more, be taken, breathe one's last, cease to exist, conk, croak, decease, demise, depart, drop, drop off, drown, expire, finish, kick the bucket, perish, relinquish life, rest in peace, succumb, suffocate
Antonyms: be born, begin, live
Interesting you use the definition for "die" that speaks only in the context of the earthly body...
The question I have for you is:
Are Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, alive right now? Before you answer read Matthew 22:31-32...hint God is God of the living not of the dead.
the name of my dog is SAM wrote:
Dear Trinitarians,
it time to accept Jesus death as you sacrifice for your sins and stop believinf in this silly 1/2 death 1/2 sacrifice which will never get you saved and plays right into Satans hands.
REJECT THE FALSE PAGAN TRINITY DOCTRINE
and get saved!!!
If the Biblical teaching is that when our bodies die, we are no more, then you would have a point, but remember Jesus' words on the cross..."Father, into your hands I entrust My spirit." (Luke 23:46)

Since: Dec 06

Bethlehem, NH

#13 Jul 1, 2012
the name of my dog is SAM wrote:
<quoted text>
Sam>>
You have to have faith in the one true God (Deut 6:4) not in a group of Gods you know 3 Gods make 1 God.
3 Gods make 1 God is a contradiction...Christianity teaches that there are 3 persons making up the ONE God, which makes sense of God saying things like "let us go down and make man in our image." We are not made in the image of angels, we are made in the image of God.
A similar formula to the Trinity; One God,(one what), three persons (three who) is the idea of the Bride of Christ. Christ has one Bride (one what) made up of many persons (many who)
the name of my dog is SAM wrote:
(Isaiah 43:10)...Before me there was no God formed, and after me there continued to be none...
see that no Gods but one Jehovah the trintiy just leads you into satans hands.
Yet, the Jehovah's Witnesses teach that Jesus is "a god" so that comes to more than one God. So we have to ask ourselves is Jesus a true God?
the name of my dog is SAM wrote:
(Psalm 83:18) 18 That people may know that you, whose name is Jehovah, You alone are the Most High over all the earth.
see this only Jehovah is most high over all the earth the holy Spirit or Jesus is never called the most high.
Remember the Colossians 1:16-17 passage where everything (not every other thing) was created by Jesus, through Jesus, and for Jesus. And John 1:1-3 tells us that Jesus is not a created being...Jesus is God which makes him the most high over all the Earth
the name of my dog is SAM

Philadelphia, PA

#14 Jul 1, 2012
red blood relative wrote:
hey jehovah's witness's.... it sure sounds like sammy the dog hates the holy spirit and the son and the father who are all one,, even though he claims to love them.
it seems clear to me that he is a tricky talking snake who doesn't love them, since he knows they are ONE, but denys it, because he hates them.
he says they are ONE, but then he claims its wicked to believe they are one.
only snakes do that kind of tricky talk, jehovah's witnesses.
.....satan is a sneaky snake liar, who hates the father the son and the holy spirit, who are all one.
Sam>>
Looks like I get ya you can~ reply to you half dead Jesus so you put the fucus on me. sorry you one one who hasto REJECT THE TRINITY TO GET SAVED
a half a sacrifice is as Good as no sacrifice REJECT THE PAGAN TRINITY AND ACCEPT JESUS FULL DEATH AS YOUR SACRIFICE BECAUSE GOD CAN NOT DIE.

NOW IT TIME TO GO BACK TO WORSHIP YOUR GOD (2Corinthians 4:4) and father (John 8:44)
Self Righteous Topsy

Houston, TX

#15 Jul 1, 2012
My GOD can beat up your GOD....

Do you people really think you are going to convince the other side your right, and they are wrong?
the name of my dog is SAM

Philadelphia, PA

#16 Jul 1, 2012
Self Righteous Topsy wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm not a Trinitarian, but I am also not presumptous enough to put myself in the judgement seat of Jesus and decide who will and who wont be saved.
While both sides duck behind thier wall of dogma waiting to be vindicated at "Judgement Day" GOD still works in all of our lives.
Sam>>
That is not a Judjement that is a fact who ever does not believe in the full death sacrifice of Christ notget saved.a half death half alive sacrifice for sins is no sacrifice for sins,the sins are retained because of lack of faith. REJECT THE fALSE GODtRINITY AND GET SAVED REMEMBER GOD CAN NOT DIE.AND YOU CLAIM JESUS IS GOD.THEREFORE NO SACRIFICE THEREFORE NO JUDGEMENT.
the name of my dog is SAM

Philadelphia, PA

#17 Jul 1, 2012
Self Righteous Topsy wrote:
My GOD can beat up your GOD....
Do you people really think you are going to convince the other side your right, and they are wrong?
Sam>>
Oh I see your God resorts to beating up God,what king of God is he?
when we go door to door we do a pretty good job of convincing people. funny think no one has the courage to debates at the door because they can`t hide behind a computed.
the name of my dog is SAM

Philadelphia, PA

#18 Jul 1, 2012
stark wrote:
<quoted text>
3 Gods make 1 God is a contradiction...Christianity teaches that there are 3 persons making up the ONE God, which makes sense of God saying things like "let us go down and make man in our image." We are not made in the image of angels, we are made in the image of God.
A similar formula to the Trinity; One God,(one what), three persons (three who) is the idea of the Bride of Christ. Christ has one Bride (one what) made up of many persons (many who)
<quoted text>
Yet, the Jehovah's Witnesses teach that Jesus is "a god" so that comes to more than one God. So we have to ask ourselves is Jesus a true God?
<quoted text>
Remember the Colossians 1:16-17 passage where everything (not every other thing) was created by Jesus, through Jesus, and for Jesus. And John 1:1-3 tells us that Jesus is not a created being...Jesus is God which makes him the most high over all the Earth
Sam>>
looks like you don`t want to give up on the 1/2 death of Christ. do you still believe Christ is God? do you believe God can`t die?
do you claim a half a sacrifice for your sins or can I say for 1/2 or your Sins LOL ROFL

by the way just to answer that age old question over and over and over again, Christ is a true mighty (Isaiah 9:6) God just like satan is a God (2corinthians 4:4) now how does that prove the 1/2 death and sacrifice of Christ?
Self Righteous Topsy

Houston, TX

#19 Jul 1, 2012
the name of my dog is SAM wrote:
<quoted text>
Sam>>
Oh I see your God resorts to beating up God,what king of God is he?
when we go door to door we do a pretty good job of convincing people. funny think no one has the courage to debates at the door because they can`t hide behind a computed.
I dont know if you have realized this yet.....But I agree with you on GOD not being a Trinity.

What I dont agree with you about is your judgemental checklist that exists nowhere in the Bible.

When I was going door to door I found it counterproductive to argue with people about something as subjective, and as unprovable as the Nature of GOD.

You need to re-examine what you think is "fact".

You have an opinion based on your beliefs. Cant you just leave it at that?

Or are you just re-affirming what you believe?
little lamb

Australia

#20 Jul 1, 2012
The trinity doctrine is a false doctrine...but there are people caught up in the lie, that love Jesus....

So we are always to encourage FAITH in Jesus , while pointing out words that are spurious like TRINITY..they are not from scripture.

All scripture is inspired of God, beneficial for reproving and setting things straight ...That the man of God is fully competent and completely equipped for every good work."

So Christians have to start asking ourselves questions ...like...how come that fellow added that word 'trinity'?

Did he think the scriptures needed a hand up with a non scriptural word?

And does adding 'spurious' words able to make me MORE competent more equipped then the scripture alone?

Which would make the scriptures a lie...

Since: Dec 06

Bethlehem, NH

#21 Jul 1, 2012
the name of my dog is SAM wrote:
<quoted text>
Sam>>
looks like you don`t want to give up on the 1/2 death of Christ. do you still believe Christ is God? do you believe God can`t die?
do you claim a half a sacrifice for your sins or can I say for 1/2 or your Sins LOL ROFL
by the way just to answer that age old question over and over and over again, Christ is a true mighty (Isaiah 9:6) God just like satan is a God (2corinthians 4:4) now how does that prove the 1/2 death and sacrifice of Christ?
You didn't touch on any of the scripture I used, you just reiterated your earlier point
Christ is a true mighty God just like Satan is a God? Are you saying that Satan is a true mighty God or are you saying Jesus isn't a true mighty God...I ask be cause Biblically Satan is only a God in the sense that he has a certain amount of power, but he is still only a created finite being with no ability himself to create. But Jesus is uncreated, the creater of all that has been created, it was created for him, and he himself holds all things together.

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