How long would you allow your childre...
hMMMMMM

Aurora, IL

#45 Dec 8, 2012
Apple_ wrote:
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only irresponsible no guts parents would let their children being abused.
You are describing most Jehovah's Witness parents.
Look at Lise and Hoodwinked who had the courage to put their children before the Jehovah's witness men who attacked their children.
They are mocked as parents by Jehovah's Witnesses.
Point proven.

“Tight lines”

Since: Jun 07

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#46 Dec 8, 2012
The Real Karen wrote:
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No, they were right before I left the KH in my home town. That was only a few years ago. I have no reason to lie about this, I would gain nothing from it at all. You have seen where I have said things to the person who says many things here about witnesses that are not true,so why would I lie about it. I am not saying you are calling me a liar, but many here would. These things still go on inside the KHs to this day FN, and that is very sad, for you, the children, and all members of the religion.
The statute of limitations has not run out.
It is obvious that both of the parents are also abusing these kids.
It is your duty as a Christian and as a human to call the police TODAY.

“New one man.”

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#47 Dec 8, 2012
Isn't Satan abusing all of us?

“Tight lines”

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#48 Dec 8, 2012
hMMMMM wrote:
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LOL! Calling you out on your usual "tough guy" BS!
You have already stated you love your handgun more than your children.
Remember you stated that you would allow the WBTS to tell you to deny your child a lifesaving blood transfusion, but you defy the WBTS command not to own a handgun.
Not only do you own one, you admit to concealed carry, and your belief you can murder if you and your delusional mind think you are threatened.
That includes a child "trespasser" with dark skin, when you force your own children to trespass.
Just by being a Jehovah's Witness parent you are putting your child at risk.
You allow them to be brainwashed to be willing "sheep" and never question "jehovah" who appointed the elder, who is abusing them
You fool no one but the brainwashed, and karen did the same thing to her children.
Go ahead you pussie, start calling me names.
I have your number.
You are a weak excuse for a man, you were kicked out of the Army, and you get beat up by those you think you are better than, simply by the color of your skin.
A loser with a chip on your shoulder, just like Tipsy, you will make the same kind of abusive headlines, most likely harming your son.
Pretty obvious your mommy did some major damage to you , and now you do it to your own children.
You have already bragged on this forum how you abuse your son.
You are disgusting, and you are a Jehovah's witness.
I would say "prove it" but, I think we all know the direction that would go.
Carry on with your "life"

Since: Nov 09

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#49 Dec 8, 2012
hMMMMMM wrote:
Wow karen, I think you may need a little more counseling, just going to church doesn't seem to be helping you come to terms with the evils of the Jehovah's Witness cult.
For you to deny the abusive nature of the meetings, propaganda children are force fed, and the fact they are programmed day in and day out to be "submissive sheep" to the pedophile elders lurking in Kingdumb Halls is delusional.
No, I just dont hold that hatred that you do for them. I am out to help them find Jesus, and you are out just to Hate them. You many lies about them only shows that you will go to any extent to harm them. You cant have that much hatred for your own parents unless they did something horrible to you.
hMMMMMM wrote:
Your hatred for me, a woman who dares to point it out, is really quite sad.
I dont hate you, I actually feel very sorry for you. You dont dare to point out anything, you only lie over and over. Now that is what is quite sad.
hMMMMMM wrote:
You need to learn to forgive yourself and move on, denial in a river in Egypt as they say.
No, its not me that needs to learn to forgive myself for anything, but it is you who needs to forgive whoever it was that destroyed your forgiving heart and soul. I have forgiven them for what they did to me, that is why I can see the good that is in the people, and I can sit here and help those who want to get out. Its called having love for one another which Jesus spoke of. There is no love in you.
hMMMMMM wrote:
Florida Native came on this forum and bragged about abusing his young(or mentally disabled) son as "discipline". Did you abuse your own children? Is that why you defend abuse disguised as "discipline"?
FN never bragged about abusing his son, he said he washed out his mouth with soap if I am remembering correctly. That is what a lot of parents need to do now days with these children who have no respect for how they talk in front of others. We have a world full of teenage suicides and not all of them are JWs, there are many others from all religions, why don't you mention them? Discipline shows love, even GOD did it and does it.
hMMMMMM wrote:
He also brags about carrying a gun, and defends the murder of innocent, young black children if they dare to come on his property, and says he would gladly do the same.This while forcing his own children to trespass, and sell propaganda for the WBTS.
Show me where he BRAGGED about carrying a gun. He would never say that he would kill just young black children like you are insinuating, but that he would protect his family if the time came that he needed to. I would hope that you would do the same thing if it was needed. Do you carry a gun? I don't carry, but I do have a few in my home and have had for years. If something required me to use one, I WOULD. God does not expect us to sit idly by twiddling our thumbs while we are murdered.
hMMMMMM wrote:
When have I EVER embraced murder or the concealed carry of guns??
In fact I have never lied, and Florida Native proved this when he called the WBTS and they lied to him, about my personal experience which was proven to be truthful with a news article.But you conveniently forget that, because you are blinded by the hatred of me, because I speak the truth you don't want to hear.
YOU NEVER SPEAK THE TRUTH. NEVER!I do believe I read once where you agree with abortion, that my dear is cold blooded murder. I don't respect any person with those views.You are worse than any witness here. I don't hate you, but I do hate the lies you tell. Stop being the victim.
hMMMMMM wrote:
No matter what you post here, they aren't doing that to their own children, are they?
Of course my children are not doing that, they have found Jesus. I do not agree with many things the witnesses teach, but I will not lie to make them look bad to others as you do CONSTANTLY.

Since: Nov 09

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#50 Dec 8, 2012
florida native wrote:
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The statute of limitations has not run out.
It is obvious that both of the parents are also abusing these kids.
It is your duty as a Christian and as a human to call the police TODAY.
FN if a parent of an underaged child refuses to do anything, the Police wont either. Maybe in your town they will, but in this town, they will not. The Elders talked to the fathers and told them it was best not to bring charges against these men and to keep the good name of the KH intact and the religions name. I have no reason to lie about it. I did call the Police. I was not a witness to the act, so I have no pull whatsoever.
Pear

Jurong East, Singapore

#51 Dec 8, 2012
The Real Karen wrote:
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FN if a parent of an underaged child refuses to do anything, the Police wont either. Maybe in your town they will, but in this town, they will not. The Elders talked to the fathers and told them it was best not to bring charges against these men and to keep the good name of the KH intact and the religions name. I have no reason to lie about it. I did call the Police. I was not a witness to the act, so I have no pull whatsoever.
you must be a witness to what was said.

“Tight lines”

Since: Jun 07

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#52 Dec 8, 2012
The Real Karen wrote:
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FN if a parent of an underaged child refuses to do anything, the Police wont either. Maybe in your town they will, but in this town, they will not. The Elders talked to the fathers and told them it was best not to bring charges against these men and to keep the good name of the KH intact and the religions name. I have no reason to lie about it. I did call the Police. I was not a witness to the act, so I have no pull whatsoever.
No offense but,
Your state sucks.
In Florida, even the accusation by a third party is enough to warrant an investigation.
Too bad if the parents don't want to do anything about it.
Spike

Whippany, NJ

#53 Dec 8, 2012
florida native wrote:
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No offense but,
Your state sucks.
In Florida, even the accusation by a third party is enough to warrant an investigation.
Too bad if the parents don't want to do anything about it.
I find karens statement difficult to believe....no offense intended
hMMMMM

Aurora, IL

#54 Dec 8, 2012
It always breaks my heart when a woman tries to justify her lust for murder by pointing at a woman's right to choose.
Nobody is "pro-abortion" period.
Safe, legal and rare.
There are lunatics who use Jesus' name to then commit murder with this nonsense.
Jesus did not mention the healthcare choices of women, and termination certainly existed in his time, since he did not, neither should those who claim to follow him.
Just like he never mentioned homosexuality.
However, many who claim to follow him are just looking for a way to justify their own hate and prejudices, and they fool nobody but themselves.
And certainly no TRUE follower of Jesus would justify murder, period.
man_711

Seattle, WA

#55 Dec 8, 2012
Spike wrote:
<quoted text>I find karens statement difficult to believe....no offense intended
I find that difficult to believe also.
Spike

Whippany, NJ

#56 Dec 8, 2012
man_711 wrote:
<quoted text>I find that difficult to believe also.
wow we agree...on this and getting you a buick enclave lol. I believe social services is required to investigate any accusation, even an anon one
hMMMMM

Aurora, IL

#57 Dec 8, 2012
Spike wrote:
<quoted text>wow we agree...on this and getting you a buick enclave lol. I believe social services is required to investigate any accusation, even an anon one
Karen tends to rationalize her own faults.

Since: Nov 09

Location hidden

#58 Dec 9, 2012
florida native wrote:
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No offense but,
Your state sucks.
In Florida, even the accusation by a third party is enough to warrant an investigation.
Too bad if the parents don't want to do anything about it.
I agree this state does suck. Even their Child Support system is messed up. I have friends whose ex husbands are 20 grand behind and they will not do anything to him. They are suppose to put these men in jail but they don't. She took him back to court over it and the judge ordered him to pay her $20 a month for 2 kids! She should throw that $20.00 back at the judge and tell him to try and raise 2 kids on it. The kicker is this man pays for tattoos, beer, whiskey and even drugs on his money, but cant afford to help support his kids. Its just not right. So many things about the laws in this state are whacked.
And yes, it was awful that the fathers would not even allow the mothers to press charges against these men who harmed their beautiful daughters.

Since: Nov 09

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#59 Dec 9, 2012
hMMMMM wrote:
It always breaks my heart when a woman tries to justify her lust for murder by pointing at a woman's right to choose.
It is not your right to murder an unborn child.
hMMMMM wrote:
There are lunatics who use Jesus' name to then commit murder with this nonsense.
Jesus did not mention the healthcare choices of women, and termination certainly existed in his time, since he did not, neither should those who claim to follow him.
Just like he never mentioned homosexuality.
You are playing the JW game of saying that Jesus never mentioned these things by WORDS, he most certainly mentioned them in the scriptures I have posted below. Be sure to read them carefully.
hMMMMM wrote:
However, many who claim to follow him are just looking for a way to justify their own hate and prejudices, and they fool nobody but themselves.And certainly no TRUE follower of Jesus would justify murder, period.
If you agree with abortion, you are justifying murder. If you agree with homosexuality, you are justifying it. You are doing the things that God told us was detestable in his eyes. I do not agree with abortion, nor do I agree with homosexuality. There is no hate or prejudice there, only follow the WORDS OF THE BIBLE. I don't hate the sinner, I hate the sin.

"If men strive, and hurt a woman with child, so that her fruit depart from her, and yet no mischief follow: he shall surely be punished, according as the woman's husband will lay upon him; and he shall pay as the judges determine. And if any mischief follow, then thou shalt give life for life..." -
-Exodus 21:22-25, King James Version.

"..do not shed innocent blood..." --Jeremiah 7:6

"Thou shalt not kill." (Exodus 20:13)

Leviticus 18:22

Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.

Romans 1:27
In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion.

Leviticus 20:13

"If a man as one lies with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They must be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads.


You cant close your eyes to the fact that God hates anyone who murders the innocent, and we know an unborn child is innocent. And he hates homosexuality. We cannot approve of what God hates and expect him to approve.

Since: Nov 09

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#60 Dec 9, 2012
man_711 wrote:
<quoted text>I find that difficult to believe also.
I have no reason to lie about it. It happened in the KH I once attended not once, but twice. I also found out that the one Elder had been molesting my cousins best friend for years. She only told this to her mother after the Elder passed away. She was so afraid he would hurt her family (he must have told her he would hurt them, but I don't know for sure about that) and she also knew that it was happening to other kids. The young lady is now in her 40's and still suffers mentally from his abuse.

man_711 you have seen how I will tell someone when they are lying about things that happen inside the KH, and about how Jehovah's witnesses believe and teach, why would I myself lie about something like this? I think lying about something like this is horrible and I would never do it. But telling the truth about them will help others to protect their own children or grandchildren inside the walls of a KH.

Since: Nov 09

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#61 Dec 9, 2012
hMMMMM wrote:
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Karen tends to rationalize her own faults.
And you lie.

Since: Nov 09

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#62 Dec 9, 2012
Spike wrote:
<quoted text>wow we agree...on this and getting you a buick enclave lol. I believe social services is required to investigate any accusation, even an anon one
Not unless the story can be backed up, and the parents did not do that because of what the Elders told them NOT to do. I talked to everyone and nothing could be done on my story. NOTHING.

Since: Dec 12

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#63 Dec 9, 2012
The Real Karen wrote:
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It is not your right to murder an unborn child.
<quoted text>
You are playing the JW game of saying that Jesus never mentioned these things by WORDS, he most certainly mentioned them in the scriptures I have posted below. Be sure to read them carefully.
<quoted text>
If you agree with abortion, you are justifying murder. If you agree with homosexuality, you are justifying it. You are doing the things that God told us was detestable in his eyes. I do not agree with abortion, nor do I agree with homosexuality. There is no hate or prejudice there, only follow the WORDS OF THE BIBLE. I don't hate the sinner, I hate the sin.
"If men strive, and hurt a woman with child, so that her fruit depart from her, and yet no mischief follow: he shall surely be punished, according as the woman's husband will lay upon him; and he shall pay as the judges determine. And if any mischief follow, then thou shalt give life for life..." -
-Exodus 21:22-25, King James Version.
"..do not shed innocent blood..." --Jeremiah 7:6
"Thou shalt not kill." (Exodus 20:13)
Leviticus 18:22
Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.
Romans 1:27
In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion.
Leviticus 20:13
"If a man as one lies with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They must be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads.
You cant close your eyes to the fact that God hates anyone who murders the innocent, and we know an unborn child is innocent. And he hates homosexuality. We cannot approve of what God hates and expect him to approve.
Great post, Karen.

Jesus also made a reference to homosexuality when he mentioned Sodom and Gommorah's destruction, in reference to a Jewish city and it's being obstinate to the work he was performing.

Anything he states in the scriptures was for a purpose.
Jorge

Puerto Rico

#64 Dec 9, 2012
El cacique wrote:
<quoted text>Great post, Karen.
Jesus also made a reference to homosexuality when he mentioned Sodom and Gommorah's destruction, in reference to a Jewish city and it's being obstinate to the work he was performing.
Anything he states in the scriptures was for a purpose.
Are you implying "Death for homosexuals"????

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