JW Officially BANNED from Dialogging ...
snorkler

Alberton, South Africa

#143 Aug 13, 2011
Poor Apostates ,after all this time, still trying to get rid of us ...lol

“Mark 7:7; John 4-6”

Since: Oct 07

Fort Lauderdale, FL

#144 Aug 13, 2011
florida native wrote:
I suppose my problem is that you are judging me and my religion while at the same time saying that the path YOU are on is the correct one.
Anyone can judge any religion they want at any time without any fear. Religions ARE NOT people. God does not EVER develop relationships with religions and no religion is ever going to be saved.

If you personally identify that strongly with your religion, such that judging your religion is felt by you as personal judgement, maybe you ought to take stock of how much you have personally invested in RELIGION versus RELATIONSHIP WITH GOD.
florida native wrote:
Why should I listen to YOU and not someone else?
Why should you listen to the Governing Body and not someone else?

Because you have become convinced that what they say is what the Bible teaches, yes?

Now you have evidence before you that not everything they say is what the Bible teaches, the reconciliation is for the WORLD, according to Paul, not for 144,000. Jesus' mediation is available for the reconciliation of the WORLD (all mankind), not for 144,000. Jesus commands you,“Come to me ...” and Jesus told you that only HE can reveal the Father to anyone (Jesus, personally, not a religion, not ANY religion). If you read and considered those Scriptures I cited I believe you sense that the Governing Body has given you a trite explanation for these spiritual matters that is out of harmony with the good news Paul taught as truth, that is out of harmony with the ministry of the reconciliation that Paul was given by Jesus, the ministry Paul said we have.

I don't recommend that you listen to me versus other people, Florida Native, I recommend listening to ANYONE who is teaching sound doctrine that is in harmony with the Scriptures, and I recommend faithfully rejecting anything anyone teaches that is found by you to be otherwise.

If you believe that the Bible is the word of God, then I recommend listening carefully to and being moved by the word of God.

I am trusting that you DO NOT believe that the words of the Governing Body are any part of the word of God. Maybe I am wrong to trust that?
Budgie

UK

#145 Aug 13, 2011
snorkler wrote:
Poor Apostates ,after all this time, still trying to get rid of us ...lol
Not at all ,, just showing the hypocrisy and inconsistancy of you Guys... It is YOUR leaders the G/B, Jehovahs mouthpiece,, who want you off this site not us... Now Snorkler if you must "obey the Watchtower as you would the voice of God",, what does that make you?? yes that's right.. disobedient to God... Keep up with the "Independent thinking" my friend and show us all what a sham your loyalty is to the false prophet cult is...By the way it's great having you here..stick around.

Since: Jun 11

Location hidden

#146 Aug 13, 2011
snorkler wrote:
Poor Apostates ,after all this time, still trying to get rid of us ...lol
We want you here.

You don't have to obey the slave.

Keep proving they are full of BS.

Since: Nov 09

Location hidden

#147 Aug 13, 2011
kjw47 wrote:
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If the mentally diseased could read-- it is them who do not belong on this sight, not the JW,s--it says--(Forums for JW,s.)
Read the list again...

We do not receive
them:

1. into our homes or

2. greet them.

3. We also refuse to read their literature,

4. watch TV programs that feature
them,

5. examine their Web sites,

6 or add our comments to their blogs.

Blogs are where people post their feelings about things, Topix of of that sort of thing. Everyone and anyone can visit any forum listed on the topix site. Now if you go to one of those sites and you see that there are people there who your religion tells you to stay away from, and its not an offical Watchtower approved site, to remain faithful and loyal to the F&DS who writes your literature, wouldnt you leave? Everytime you post back to one of us that you call an apostate, you are inviting us into your home via the internet. Everytime you post back to one of us that you call an apostate, you are greeting us. Everytime you post back to one of us that you call an apostate you are reading our literature. But please, keep doing it and maybe one day you will realize that the bible is where you get the truth, not from men.

Since: Jun 11

Location hidden

#148 Aug 13, 2011
kjw47 wrote:
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If the mentally diseased could read-- it is them who do not belong on this sight, not the JW,s--it says--(Forums for JW,s.)
The slave regards JW's who post on websites like this to be unfaithful and prove satan was right when he said man wouldn't be faithful to God.

Don't believe it?

Ask your elders, they will tell you like it is.
red blood relative

United States

#149 Aug 13, 2011
snorkler wrote:
Poor Apostates ,after all this time, still trying to get rid of us ...lol
amazing!!!.... your gov body writes an article forbidding you to speak to us, or visit non official jw sites, and you call it "we are still trying to get rid of you".

the mind set of a jw is truly amazing.
the funny thing is, they can't tell they are just liars.

they will stand right in front of you, as you show them their own literature, and then proceed to tell you it means the opposite of what it says...... and then claim they are not lying.

Since: Nov 09

Location hidden

#150 Aug 13, 2011
florida native wrote:
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Really?
Find JUST ONE comment that I made that is anywhere CLOSE to what the Baptists thinh.
Please provide the link.
If you are saying that most Baptist believe what Westboro Baptist Church does is right, you are wrong. IT is an independant Baptist Church and is labeled as a hate church, and this is not what Baptist teach. IT has no affliation with any Baptist associations or conventions.

Since: Jun 11

Location hidden

#151 Aug 13, 2011
red blood relative wrote:
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amazing!!!.... your gov body writes an article forbidding you to speak to us, or visit non official jw sites, and you call it "we are still trying to get rid of you".
the mind set of a jw is truly amazing.
the funny thing is, they can't tell they are just liars.
they will stand right in front of you, as you show them their own literature, and then proceed to tell you it means the opposite of what it says...... and then claim they are not lying.
The slave regards JW's who post on websites like this to be unfaithful and prove satan was right when he said man wouldn't be faithful to God.
JACE

Clinton, MD

#152 Aug 13, 2011
RedhorseWoman wrote:
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NR set up a forum on Yahoo called "Jehovah's Garden" which was supposed to be the safe haven for the JWs, where they could go and have upbuilding association and interact with each without the horrible "apostates" being around.
That forum is basically dead, with a grand total of less than 10 posts per month for the last several months. They really can't STAND to be alone together for any length of time.
great reference site
yep we see it happen all the time

what did you s:

"a grand total of less than 10 posts per month for the last several months"

Since: Feb 07

RI

#153 Aug 13, 2011
RedhorseWoman wrote:
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Not sure what forum YOU were looking at when you looked up Barack Obama, but here is what *I* found (I couldn't check it earlier, so I just got the chance now.)
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And here is the link to the forum that is "for" Barack Obama:
http://www.topix.com/forum/who/barack-obama
Now, what was your argument? Oh, yes, that saying that a forum that is "for" Barack Obama means that it is "about" Barack Obama, but that a forum that says it is "for" Jehovah's Witnesses is "for" Jehovah's Witnesses exclusively.
Interesting take on a two meanings for the same word, but I guess that, as a JW, you are used to engaging in doublespeak, right, FN?
FN, we're still waiting to hear your explanation of why "for" on the Barack Obama forum actually means "about" but the "for" on the Jehovah's Witness forum means that it is exclusively "for" JWs.

I'm really interested in seeing how you explain this and why you consider anyone participating on the "For Barack Obama" forum to be legitimately there, but ex- and non-JWs who participate on the "For Jehovah's Witness" forum are likened to "wolves" and are considered to to "unwanted intruders."

Do you, perhaps, have a written policy from Topix that states that all forums are open to anyone who wants to discuss issues EXCEPT the Jehovah's Witness forum, which has been set up exclusively for them? If so, would you post that, please? Thanks.

Where did you go?
JACE

Clinton, MD

#154 Aug 13, 2011
RedhorseWoman wrote:
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According to FN's bizarre methods of defining words, I guess that anyone who posts on the forum set up "for" Barack Obama, other than Mr. Obama himself, is an "unwanted intruder" there as well.
there is nothing funnier than watching jw create means and applications to words that THEY MAKE UP
JACE

Clinton, MD

#155 Aug 13, 2011
wasdeceivedonce wrote:
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The slave regards JW's who post on websites like this to be unfaithful and prove satan was right when he said man wouldn't be faithful to God.
YEP THIS is exactly what the FDS is saying and if you ask any Society Man, CO, DO, Elder or "mature christian" this is what they will say
yet we get to see online jw made out to be hypocrites by their own denomnations theology
JACE

Clinton, MD

#156 Aug 13, 2011
RedhorseWoman wrote:
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FN, we're still waiting to hear your explanation of why "for" on the Barack Obama forum actually means "about" but the "for" on the Jehovah's Witness forum means that it is exclusively "for" JWs.
I'm really interested in seeing how you explain this and why you consider anyone participating on the "For Barack Obama" forum to be legitimately there, but ex- and non-JWs who participate on the "For Jehovah's Witness" forum are likened to "wolves" and are considered to to "unwanted intruders."
Do you, perhaps, have a written policy from Topix that states that all forums are open to anyone who wants to discuss issues EXCEPT the Jehovah's Witness forum, which has been set up exclusively for them? If so, would you post that, please? Thanks.
Where did you go?
hold his feet to the fire

in fact i suggest that you start a thread so that there will be an Archive Record of a JW unwilling to address a simple critical thinking questions

but your comments were on the money
JACE

Clinton, MD

#157 Aug 13, 2011
red blood relative wrote:
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amazing!!!.... your gov body writes an article forbidding you to speak to us, or visit non official jw sites, and you call it "we are still trying to get rid of you".
the mind set of a jw is truly amazing.
the funny thing is, they can't tell they are just liars.
they will stand right in front of you, as you show them their own literature, and then proceed to tell you it means the opposite of what it says...... and then claim they are not lying.
hey it is like i say

to be one of jw requires using Mental Gymnastics and you have provided another perfect example of jw demostrating this

this is why i love the web, the posters comments become part of the "archive" of the internet and in 2 yrs, the posters clear PROTECT THE ORG AT ALL COST comment will be here for readers to examine

Since: Feb 07

RI

#158 Aug 13, 2011
JACE wrote:
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hold his feet to the fire
in fact i suggest that you start a thread so that there will be an Archive Record of a JW unwilling to address a simple critical thinking questions
but your comments were on the money
Good idea. Set up a thread...just in case FN has forgotten about this thread, or, perhaps, has gotten lost somewhere in the Everglades and is unable to post.

Perhaps one of the JWs will explain this neat trick in defining words just in case FN has gone missing.
JACE

Clinton, MD

#159 Aug 13, 2011
RedhorseWoman wrote:
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Good idea. Set up a thread...just in case FN has forgotten about this thread, or, perhaps, has gotten lost somewhere in the Everglades and is unable to post.
Perhaps one of the JWs will explain this neat trick in defining words just in case FN has gone missing.
excellent what it will do is provide a Clear record of what FN said and was he able to defend his reasoning or not

it also sets it apart so that the topic LITERALLY CALLS HIM OUT

I HAVE 2 THAT I AM SAVING FOR GARETH AS WELL

“Mystical Atheism for everyone!”

Since: Nov 08

El Cerrito California

#160 Aug 13, 2011
Since the organization of Jehovah's Witnesses officially rejects the OMNIPRESENT GOD of Israel that is at the root of historical Christianity based on the Hebrew Scriptures, that makes all Jehovah's Witnesses apostates by definition. So does this new ruling mean they have to stop listening to each other and stop reading the apostate works of the governing body?

We all need to get informed and get involved in restoring true Christianity to humanity that is even now being found to be in accord with the latest findings concerning the OMNIPRESENT GOD of Israel that is at the core of the teachings of the historical Jesus!

GOD is LOVE. WE are ALL ONE WITH GOD, even the unloving!
JACE

Clinton, MD

#161 Aug 13, 2011
Grandpasmurf952 wrote:
Since the organization of Jehovah's Witnesses officially rejects the OMNIPRESENT GOD of Israel that is at the root of historical Christianity based on the Hebrew Scriptures, that makes all Jehovah's Witnesses apostates by definition. So does this new ruling mean they have to stop listening to each other and stop reading the apostate works of the governing body?
We all need to get informed and get involved in restoring true Christianity to humanity that is even now being found to be in accord with the latest findings concerning the OMNIPRESENT GOD of Israel that is at the core of the teachings of the historical Jesus!
GOD is LOVE. WE are ALL ONE WITH GOD, even the unloving!
I love this dude- lol

i think that there is one in every Circuit, always a good bro, sincere person, but just can't quite keep up with what is going on

during comments the question will be on topic A and you can always count on them to give that "Same" comment REGARDLESS of whether it has anything to do with what is being discussed

and i guess just like in the Hall if you were the one conducting the meeting all you could say is

"thank you for your comment bro jones-- Ok now-- what is the key point we are looking for friends"

“Mystical Atheism for everyone!”

Since: Nov 08

El Cerrito California

#162 Aug 13, 2011
JACE wrote:
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I love this dude- lol
i think that there is one in every Circuit, always a good bro, sincere person, but just can't quite keep up with what is going on
during comments the question will be on topic A and you can always count on them to give that "Same" comment REGARDLESS of whether it has anything to do with what is being discussed
and i guess just like in the Hall if you were the one conducting the meeting all you could say is
"thank you for your comment bro jones-- Ok now-- what is the key point we are looking for friends"
brushing your sarcasm aside the key topic is JW Officially BANNED from Dialogging with "apostates" online. In an attempt at levity that apparently went over your head I simply pointed out by definition the organization and those involved are apostate due to the false claim of being Christian, making it a policy that would have to logically include not to have dialog with each other either. Since most publishing empires interact online nowadays, that would include the governing body and their apostate literature that conflicts with the teachings of the historical Jesus.

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