the truth about Leo Greenlees

“Truth is where you find it”

Since: Jun 11

Watsontown, PA

#87 Mar 13, 2012
Aneirin wrote:
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Well you said this:
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http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/jehovahs-...
Classic "guilty unless proved innocent" argument that the anti-JW propagandists always use.
It is okay to promote any story about someone even if you don't know it is true and if you can keep the story going long enough them people should just assume it is true without proof.
beauty is in the eyes of the beholder.

sidgi

“Truth is where you find it”

Since: Jun 11

Watsontown, PA

#88 Mar 13, 2012
Jace wrote:
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When he was kicked out of bethel he was not dfed
Yes, I momentarily forgot that child abuse doesn't rise to the level of resisting the teaching of the faithful and discrete slave, when it comes to discipline.

sidgi
diogenes

Dallas, TX

#89 Mar 13, 2012
Jace wrote:
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Critical thinking skills???
It is interesting that this poster speaks of. CT
Now what has the entire world learned about pedophiles on the last 15 years ??
You cannot just look at someone , be around someone, work with someone, even live with someone and know they are a pedophile
This jw highlights a flawed reasoning in this area
In his desire to defend the wt he is using one of the worse methods to try And Id a pervert
The priest didn't look like a pedophile and was in our parish 30 yrs
What is your point? That it is impossible to vouch for someone’s character? What a dim-witted ridiculous argument. Who do you trust your kids with? A stranger or someone you have known and observed for 9 years.

Do some people lead double lives? Yes, of course. This still does not take away the fact that the best way to learn of a persons character is to be around them for a long time.
Jace wrote:
<quoted text>Professionals know this is not the best way to Id a pedophile. Only an uninformed person would still think its the old guy in the rain coat and boots standing near the school
Please tell us more about this sure fire method of testing for pedophiles. And why doesn't the school system use this test to essentially eliminate all teachers that may molest children?
Jace

Woodbridge, VA

#90 Mar 13, 2012
diogenes wrote:
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What is your point? That it is impossible to vouch for someone’s character? What a dim-witted ridiculous argument. Who do you trust your kids with? A stranger or someone you have known and observed for 9 years.
Do some people lead double lives? Yes, of course. This still does not take away the fact that the best way to learn of a persons character is to be around them for a long time.
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Please tell us more about this sure fire method of testing for pedophiles. And why doesn't the school system use this test to essentially eliminate all teachers that may molest children?
Once again you have attempted avoid answering the question

I am going to hold your feet to the fire that you started

So lets go back to what YOU said and I ask

Ate you asserting that you can Id a pedophile by working with a person?

Is that what you are saying?

I am asking you a simple question. Why are you avoiding the question ?

You are unable to comprehend simple concepts

I stated that one of the most important things people have learned about pedophiles is you Cannot Id them by just looking at someone
Working with someone. Or even living with someone. We have learned the are not the dirty old man with the raincoat and boots on

Can't you read man!!!

so I ask you again are you putting it out on the table that folks can id a pedophile by working with them???

Is that what you are asserting???
Jace

Woodbridge, VA

#91 Mar 13, 2012
sidgi wrote:
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Yes, I momentarily forgot that child abuse doesn't rise to the level of resisting the teaching of the faithful and discrete slave, when it comes to discipline.
sidgi
DFing is determined by a judical committee of 3

How his case was handled is not known

If I was a betting man I. Would put money on an emergency session of the whole GB in conjunction with Legal
Jace

Woodbridge, VA

#92 Mar 13, 2012
diogenes wrote:
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Please tell us more about this sure fire method of testing for pedophiles. And why doesn't the school system use this test to essentially eliminate all teachers that may molest children?
There is none and working with someone on the job is. Not how pedophiles are id
This. Behavior takes place in secret.

And generally molestation is not done in public view

Why do we gave to educate jw in such basic and well known facts about this issue in the year 2012

"I worked with billy Bob at the mill for 30 years on the line and he don't look like no pedophile to. Me". Is what our poster would say I guess

Dude come into the 21st century
diogenes

United States

#93 Mar 13, 2012
Jace wrote:
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Once again you have attempted avoid answering the question
I am going to hold your feet to the fire that you started
So lets go back to what YOU said and I ask
Ate you asserting that you can Id a pedophile by working with a person?
Is that what you are saying?
I am asking you a simple question. Why are you avoiding the question ?
You are unable to comprehend simple concepts
I stated that one of the most important things people have learned about pedophiles is you Cannot Id them by just looking at someone
Working with someone. Or even living with someone. We have learned the are not the dirty old man with the raincoat and boots on
Can't you read man!!!
so I ask you again are you putting it out on the table that folks can id a pedophile by working with them???
Is that what you are asserting???
I have answered your question several times now. The best way to judge a persons character is to work with and observe them for several years. If you know of a better way, please do tell.
diogenes

United States

#94 Mar 13, 2012
Jace wrote:
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There is none and working with someone on the job is. Not how pedophiles are id
Still waiting for you to tell us how you or the experts test for pedophiles
Jace wrote:
<quoted text>This. Behavior takes place in secret.
And generally molestation is not done in public view
Why do we gave to educate jw in such basic and well known facts about this issue in the year 2012
"I worked with billy Bob at the mill for 30 years on the line and he don't look like no pedophile to. Me". Is what our poster would say I guess
Dude come into the 21st century
The mill should have administered that test before hiring him. Moreover the state should not let anyone who fails that test to get married or have children. In fact castration should await any who fail. And the should definitely get put in the offender registry.

“Tight lines”

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#95 Mar 13, 2012
wausau shel wrote:
<quoted text>that's not a very fair statement ,many many jws,Especially on here Pretending ,NEVER BACK Up ANYTHING about TRUTH ,because they Constantly lie..
if they are pretending, then they are not really a Witness, right?
And besides, I said "I" not "everyone".

“Paradise Earth”

Since: Sep 11

Location hidden

#97 Mar 13, 2012
sidgi wrote:
beauty is in the eyes of the beholder.
Beauty is truth.
Jace

Woodbridge, VA

#99 Mar 13, 2012
diogenes wrote:
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Still waiting for you to tell us how you or the experts test for pedophiles
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The mill should have administered that test before hiring him. Moreover the state should not let anyone who fails that test to get married or have children. In fact castration should await any who fail. And the should definitely get put in the offender registry.
I said inmy post above that you didnt read and comprehend That there is no test and your ignorant behind is still asking. How do you test for pedophile. You are slow for real I see
Jace

Woodbridge, VA

#100 Mar 13, 2012
diogenes wrote:
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Still waiting for you to tell us how you or the experts test for pedophiles
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The mill should have administered that test before hiring him. Moreover the state should not let anyone who fails that test to get married or have children. In fact castration should await any who fail. And the should definitely get put in the offender registry.
Duhhhh. There is
No test

Man you need to start reading more publications than just ones produced by wt

You poor thing
Jace

Woodbridge, VA

#101 Mar 13, 2012
diogenes wrote:
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I have answered your question several times now. The best way to judge a persons character is to work with and observe them for several years. If you know of a better way, please do tell.
All you can do folks is just feel pity for this guy
For he sincerely believes with all his little heart that if you just work beside someone on the job you can spot that pedophile

Folks this is what happens when you have been so conditioned to defend the org at all cost to the point that you even know facts mean nothing to you

I will repeat what I have said for the sake of this poor soul
One of the things that we all have learned except this dear man is the image of the raincoat man standing near the school yard is not the face of pedophilia

For working with someone. Living next to someone Or even many times living on the same house will not be the way to id a pedophile or not

We are. Not talking about character issues that such relationships would produce as to whether a person is nice. Rude. Easy going quick tempered. Quiet. Loud etc.

We are talking about private behavior conduct that one would not see. An therefore cause you work with a dude means nothing I terms of what they do in their private lives

All one can do is speak to what they have seen in the persons public life

Unfortunately our dear poster believes if he can work with. Person long enough. He can spot that pedophile. Poor man

“Truth is where you find it”

Since: Jun 11

Watsontown, PA

#102 Mar 13, 2012
Aneirin wrote:
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Beauty is truth.
That is what is known as a vacuous platitude.

sidgi
diogenes

United States

#103 Mar 13, 2012
Jace wrote:
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All you can do folks is just feel pity for this guy
For he sincerely believes with all his little heart that if you just work beside someone on the job you can spot that pedophile
Folks this is what happens when you have been so conditioned to defend the org at all cost to the point that you even know facts mean nothing to you
I will repeat what I have said for the sake of this poor soul
One of the things that we all have learned except this dear man is the image of the raincoat man standing near the school yard is not the face of pedophilia
For working with someone. Living next to someone Or even many times living on the same house will not be the way to id a pedophile or not
We are. Not talking about character issues that such relationships would produce as to whether a person is nice. Rude. Easy going quick tempered. Quiet. Loud etc.
We are talking about private behavior conduct that one would not see. An therefore cause you work with a dude means nothing I terms of what they do in their private lives
All one can do is speak to what they have seen in the persons public life
Unfortunately our dear poster believes if he can work with. Person long enough. He can spot that pedophile. Poor man
According to your logic, becoming acquainted with someone is not a good way to judge someone's character because they secretly may be a pedophile. Therefore we should assume everyone is a pedophile. Again, I ask how do you vette babysitters before leaving them alone with you children? You've already stated that knowing them for a long time is meaningless. I am very anxious to hear about how you go about trusting someone.

“Paradise Earth”

Since: Sep 11

Location hidden

#104 Mar 14, 2012
sidgi wrote:
That is what is known as a vacuous platitude.
Actually, it was Keats.

Since: Jul 10

Location hidden

#105 Mar 14, 2012
Gaz, he was describing an urn. Also, the last part of the poem was meant to be the urn speaking.

Taking advise from talking pottery?

lol.

“the Word was God”

Since: Jul 11

Ashland, OH

#106 Mar 14, 2012
florida native wrote:
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whenever I am asked for proof if a comment I make, I supply it.
That is the difference between me and the apostates.
Interesting, as you have never even proved anyone here to be an apostate that I've seen, so you're already behind in the count.

When have you ever demanded proof of any of the Watchtower Society's specious claims? You know, the claims wherein they always cite themselves as evidence of their own claims.

“Tight lines”

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#107 Mar 14, 2012
Not-A-Goat wrote:
<quoted text>Interesting, as you have never even proved anyone here to be an apostate that I've seen, so you're already behind in the count.

When have you ever demanded proof of any of the Watchtower Society's specious claims? You know, the claims wherein they always cite themselves as evidence of their own claims.
Goat,
You are attempting to change the subject.
You are also not completely reading my comments.
I was very clear when I said, "when asked"
Nobody has asked me for proof when I accuse them of being an apostate.
You are calling me out on something that has never happened.
As far as proof of the Watchtowers claims, that is not what this thread is about.

aadriver

Since: Aug 09

Bedfordshire, England

#108 Mar 14, 2012
florida native wrote:
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whenever I am asked for proof if a comment I make, I supply it.
That is the difference between me and the apostates.
Come on that is not fair is it? Some ex witnesses and JWs are good at providing facts, others are not. Certainly I try to never say anything important without proving it with facts and links.

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