the truth about Leo Greenlees

the truth about Leo Greenlees

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Spike

Boonton, NJ

#1 Mar 12, 2012
Leo Greenlees was forced out of Bethel in 1984 for practicing pedophilia. Seems he was fooling around with a ten year old boy, got caught, and the parents complained to the Society. After a Governing Body session, Greenlees was told to get out. He ended up in some congregation and died a few years later, sometime in the late 1980s.

Ironically, the molested boy applied for Bethel service in the early 1990s, but was turned down because certain officials thought that he'd be too much of a source of information about Greenlees' perversion.

“Tight lines”

Since: Jun 07

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#3 Mar 12, 2012
Spike wrote:
Leo Greenlees was forced out of Bethel in 1984 for practicing pedophilia. Seems he was fooling around with a ten year old boy, got caught, and the parents complained to the Society. After a Governing Body session, Greenlees was told to get out. He ended up in some congregation and died a few years later, sometime in the late 1980s.

Ironically, the molested boy applied for Bethel service in the early 1990s, but was turned down because certain officials thought that he'd be too much of a source of information about Greenlees' perversion.
Proof please.
Spike

Boonton, NJ

#4 Mar 12, 2012
florida native wrote:
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Proof please.
It happened, Florida Native, deal with it. The WT's admission came in a WT in the 80's where they said "Shocking as it is, even some who have been prominent in Jehovah's organization have succumbed to immoral practices, including homosexuality, wife swapping, and child molesting"
This was sometime after Greenlees dismissal. Only 3 GB members have ever been dismissed, Raymond Franz of whom I think we will both agree was due to disagreement with WT policy. Ewart Chitty and Leo Greenlees. It is a position you retain till you die. Even the 100 year old senile Carey Barber was retained. If you read Crisis of Conscience you will see about the old and senile GB member who used to fall asleep during GB deliberations.

“Tight lines”

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#5 Mar 12, 2012
Spike wrote:
<quoted text>It happened, Florida Native, deal with it. The WT's admission came in a WT in the 80's where they said "Shocking as it is, even some who have been prominent in Jehovah's organization have succumbed to immoral practices, including homosexuality, wife swapping, and child molesting"
This was sometime after Greenlees dismissal. Only 3 GB members have ever been dismissed, Raymond Franz of whom I think we will both agree was due to disagreement with WT policy. Ewart Chitty and Leo Greenlees. It is a position you retain till you die. Even the 100 year old senile Carey Barber was retained. If you read Crisis of Conscience you will see about the old and senile GB member who used to fall asleep during GB deliberations.
So....
None at all....
Have a wonderful day.

“Truth is where you find it”

Since: Jun 11

Watsontown, PA

#6 Mar 12, 2012
florida native wrote:
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So....
None at all....
Have a wonderful day.
I guess there's about as much evidence forr that, as there si for the WTBTS being God's channel of communication.

sidgi

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#7 Mar 12, 2012
sidgi wrote:
<quoted text>I guess there's about as much evidence forr that, as there si for the WTBTS being God's channel of communication.

sidgi
While that may or may not be true, that has less then zero to do with the subject at hand.
hMMMMM

Farmington, UT

#8 Mar 12, 2012
Spike wrote:
Leo Greenlees was forced out of Bethel in 1984 for practicing pedophilia. Seems he was fooling around with a ten year old boy, got caught, and the parents complained to the Society. After a Governing Body session, Greenlees was told to get out. He ended up in some congregation and died a few years later, sometime in the late 1980s.
Ironically, the molested boy applied for Bethel service in the early 1990s, but was turned down because certain officials thought that he'd be too much of a source of information about Greenlees' perversion.
Disgusting.
Just proves what a perverted cult the WBTS is running.
No child is safe in a Kingdumb Halll

“Truth is where you find it”

Since: Jun 11

Watsontown, PA

#9 Mar 12, 2012
florida native wrote:
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While that may or may not be true, that has less then zero to do with the subject at hand.
It had as much to do with the subject at hand, as the basis for your objection to it did.

sidgi
hMMMMM

Farmington, UT

#10 Mar 12, 2012
Spike wrote:
<quoted text>It happened, Florida Native, deal with it. The WT's admission came in a WT in the 80's where they said "Shocking as it is, even some who have been prominent in Jehovah's organization have succumbed to immoral practices, including homosexuality, wife swapping, and child molesting"
This was sometime after Greenlees dismissal. Only 3 GB members have ever been dismissed, Raymond Franz of whom I think we will both agree was due to disagreement with WT policy. Ewart Chitty and Leo Greenlees. It is a position you retain till you die. Even the 100 year old senile Carey Barber was retained. If you read Crisis of Conscience you will see about the old and senile GB member who used to fall asleep during GB deliberations.
Well Florida Native is so hell bent on getting "proof" from "reliable" sources.
He seems unable to use the internet for research, instead relies on "the society" even though they prove him a fool, every time they flat out lie to him, and he just lets them.

“Paradise Earth”

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#11 Mar 12, 2012
Spike wrote:
Leo Greenlees was forced out of Bethel in 1984 for practicing pedophilia. Seems he was fooling around with a ten year old boy, got caught, and the parents complained to the Society. After a Governing Body session, Greenlees was told to get out. He ended up in some congregation and died a few years later, sometime in the late 1980s.
Ironically, the molested boy applied for Bethel service in the early 1990s, but was turned down because certain officials thought that he'd be too much of a source of information about Greenlees' perversion.
This isn't the "truth", this is the rumours and speculation from anti-JW propagandists.

“Tight lines”

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#12 Mar 12, 2012
sidgi wrote:
<quoted text>It had as much to do with the subject at hand, as the basis for your objection to it did.

sidgi
Really?
I questioned the subject at hand so you counter with a totally unrelated subject?
Ok....

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Since: May 11

... and conjugating verbs.

#13 Mar 12, 2012
Spike wrote:
blah blah blah ... Carey Barber ... blah blah blah
I had the privilege of meeting Bro. Barber. Very nice man, very down to earth.

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#14 Mar 12, 2012
Aneirin wrote:
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This isn't the "truth", this is the rumours and speculation from anti-JW propagandists.
If you have only been studying for 5 years, how would you know what happened a few decades ago?

Can you identify who these were?: ""Shocking as it is, even some who have been prominent in Jehovah's organization have succumbed to immoral practices, including homosexuality, wife swapping, and child molesting"

Or would you just say anyone named is a "lie" when you don't actually know anything yourself?

“Tight lines”

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#15 Mar 12, 2012
-Beowulf wrote:
<quoted text>If you have only been studying for 5 years, how would you know what happened a few decades ago?

Can you identify who these were?: ""Shocking as it is, even some who have been prominent in Jehovah's organization have succumbed to immoral practices, including homosexuality, wife swapping, and child molesting"

Or would you just say anyone named is a "lie" when you don't actually know anything yourself?
Notice how he also knows the "10 year old boy"?
Yeah..... Ok....

“Truth is where you find it”

Since: Jun 11

Watsontown, PA

#16 Mar 12, 2012
florida native wrote:
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Really?
I questioned the subject at hand so you counter with a totally unrelated subject?
Ok....
Yes, really. You questioned the validity of the information, without any information to the contrary. That kind of attack is baseless. The Leo Greenlees incident is well known. It has been attested to by eye witnesses to his behavior. If there were any evidence to the contrary, it would have been produced by now. The very fact that it continues, shows there is fire, where the smoke is coming from. And you, liar that you are, just can't resist sticking your nose into it.

sidgi

Since: Jun 11

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#17 Mar 12, 2012
florida native wrote:
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Notice how he also knows the "10 year old boy"?
Yeah..... Ok....
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Jace

Jersey City, NJ

#18 Mar 12, 2012
Spike wrote:
Leo Greenlees was forced out of Bethel in 1984 for practicing pedophilia. Seems he was fooling around with a ten year old boy, got caught, and the parents complained to the Society. After a Governing Body session, Greenlees was told to get out. He ended up in some congregation and died a few years later, sometime in the late 1980s.
Ironically, the molested boy applied for Bethel service in the early 1990s, but was turned down because certain officials thought that he'd be too much of a source of information about Greenlees' perversion.
I was in lower diner when. German gb potizger read the announcement. It was the worst day for the bethel family in Brooklyn and the farm

Nobody' said anything after breakfast 3000 bethelites headed to work in the office home and factory not saying much to anyone

Everyone was calling home to tell a gB got the boot

Noone knew why at that time

That came later

This is one of the most embarrassing things for jw

The emotional range is from flat out denial by some to he is an imperfectr man who must face god and everything in between
Jace

Jersey City, NJ

#19 Mar 12, 2012
Aneirin wrote:
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This isn't the "truth", this is the rumours and speculation from anti-JW propagandists.
Gareth I was at bethel when this happen

As I have told you many times before there are some topics that are out of your bible study range

Sorry dude live with it

I know this is embarrassing it was to the bethel family as we'll. It was announcement to the bethel family that morning I was about 3 or 4 tables over fro the gb head table in lower diner on 123 coulmbia hts

Any bethelite who served on 84 was there

They call it the bethel family and like any family something this Harvey involving a gb becomes known

I known its embarrassing but it's life. Some folks has issues in this area
diogenes

Dallas, TX

#20 Mar 12, 2012
Spike wrote:
<quoted text>Only 3 GB members have ever been dismissed, Raymond Franz of whom I think we will both agree was due to disagreement with WT policy. Ewart Chitty and Leo Greenlees. It is a position you retain till you die. Even the 100 year old senile Carey Barber was retained. If you read Crisis of Conscience you will see about the old and senile GB member who used to fall asleep during GB deliberations.
Ray Franz (who personally worked with Leo Greenlees for 9 years) disagrees.

Ray Franz wrote:
"As I have stated, during my 40 years of Witness membership any cases of child molestation never came to my attention. During my 9 years on the Governing Body and my years on the Service Committee of the Governing Body, the issue was not presented, though matters of sexual immorality of many kinds did surface. "

Ray Franz also wrote:
"Regrettably, the willingness of some former Witnesses to accept sensational claims made if made with a pretension of insider knowledge betrays a lack of critical thinking, the same lack of critical thinking endemic in the Witness membership."

Question, is Ray Franz lying?
Jace

Woodbridge, VA

#21 Mar 12, 2012
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