Mr. Stanley Walker
manny99

Van Nuys, CA

#1 Sep 14, 2009
What's your motivation? My momma has always told me, "if you can't find something to live for, it's best you find something to die for".
Hope This Helps

AOL

#2 Sep 14, 2009
Stanley Walker has a very uplifting and scriptual message to share: Jehovah is God and Jesus is Savior and we must look to them for salvation. I have read many of Stanley's post and he is a remarkable and very concise "teacher" on this forum. He is fair, open, honest, and respectful. He offers Bible-based encouragement and gives heartfelt insight on many topics. This is my own personal opinion but I am drawn to Stanley's comments because his "mannerisms" on here run parallel to the way Jesus Christ instructed us to teach.

There are some wonderful people on this forum with many thoughts/opinions/viewpoints to share, and I am glad to communicate with them and learn from them.

“By grace you have been saved”

Since: May 09

Croydon, UK

#6 Sep 14, 2009
Hi Manny

To what do I owe this great honour for being signalled out for attention?

Your momma was very wise. I like her saying.

What your momma said reminded me of two Scriptures which I will share with you.

"I tell the truth in Christ, I am not lying, my conscience also bearing me witness in the Holy Spirit, that I have great sorrow and continual grief in my heart. For I could wish that I myself were accursed from Christ for my brethren." -- Romans 9:1-3

"For to me, to live is Christ, and to die is gain. But if I live on in the flesh, this will mean fruit from my labor; yet what I shall choose I cannot tell. For I am hard-pressed between the two, having a desire to depart and be with Christ, which is far better." -- Philippians 1:21-23

Both were written by the apostle Paul.

Paul had great sorrow and continual grief in his heart for his brothers he had left behind in the Jews. Jesus Christ turned his world upside down and inside out. Paul loved his former brothers so much he offered to exchange his own eternal salvation for his brothers to know Jesus as their Saviour. Paul also reached a point in his life where he yearned for death so that he could be with his precious Jesus. But he also realised that, if he stayed on living on earth, he might still be able to be instrumental in leading others to Jesus as their Saviour.

I understand how Paul felt.

I was a Jehovah’s Witness for 35 years from infancy. It was all I knew as regards reality. But Jesus Christ turned my world upside down and inside out.

There is a song by Soul legend Solomon Burke called The Price. The chorus goes like this:

“You cost me my mother,
The love of my father,
Sister,
My brother, too,
See now what you've cost,
And I know just what I've lost,
And I know that's the price,
I've paid for loving someone like you"

The song is a love song to a woman. But when I play it, and I sing it out loud, and break down in tears, I am singing it to Jesus.

Becoming a Christian has cost me a lot. I have lost family upwards, sideways, and downwards, not to mention lifelong friends. Jehovah’s Witnesses are a cruel and heartless religion.

Just recently my older sister died and, on 25 August, I placed her ashes to rest in our mother’s grave. We had not spoken for over two decades, her being an active Witness and me being disfellowshipped. I was allowed to attend her memorial service at Kingdom Hall and, I must confess, I was totally surprised by the way I was treated. I expected to be told not to speak to anyone, to sit at the back and leave as soon as possible. The elders must have decided to have a truce for the event because I was hit by a wave of love. Three sisters at Kingdom Hall almost wept on my shoulders as they embraced me and begged me to come back, for my dead sister’s sake, so she could see me again in the new system. I was allowed to sit with my father and I squeezed his arm all the way through. Afterwards I was invited back for refreshments and I was able to chat with JW friends from childhood. Truce for a day, with the local elders’ blessing, in my sister’s honour. I respect them for that.

But now we are back to business as usual. No communication allowed.

My motivation for being on this forum is mainly that, like Paul, I see those I have left behind at Kingdom Hall, as my kinfolk, my race, my roots. I could have them back tomorrow if only I “repented” of my crazy apostate belief that Jesus is my personal Saviour. Could I deny my Jesus? Never. So the only other thing I can do for my lost kinfolk, my race, my roots, is to try and reach out to them and share the truth of the gospel taught by Jesus Christ of salvation by grace alone, through faith alone, in Jesus Christ alone.

I suppose I also long for my grown estranged children to find my name on the internet through Google and discover what their apostate dad has to say for himself.

“By grace you have been saved”

Since: May 09

Croydon, UK

#7 Sep 14, 2009
Hi Manny

To what do I owe this great honour for being signalled out for attention?

Your momma was very wise. I like her saying.

What your momma said reminded me of two Scriptures which I will share with you.

"I tell the truth in Christ, I am not lying, my conscience also bearing me witness in the Holy Spirit, that I have great sorrow and continual grief in my heart. For I could wish that I myself were accursed from Christ for my brethren." -- Romans 9:1-3

"For to me, to live is Christ, and to die is gain. But if I live on in the flesh, this will mean fruit from my labor; yet what I shall choose I cannot tell. For I am hard-pressed between the two, having a desire to depart and be with Christ, which is far better." -- Philippians 1:21-23

Both were written by the apostle Paul.

Paul had great sorrow and continual grief in his heart for his brothers he had left behind in the Jews. Jesus Christ turned his world upside down and inside out. Paul loved his former brothers so much he offered to exchange his own eternal salvation for his brothers to know Jesus as their Saviour. Paul also reached a point in his life where he yearned for death so that he could be with his precious Jesus. But he also realised that, if he stayed on living on earth, he might still be able to be instrumental in leading others to Jesus as their Saviour.

I understand how Paul felt.

I was a Jehovah’s Witness for 35 years from infancy. It was all I knew as regards reality. But Jesus Christ turned my world upside down and inside out.

There is a song by Soul legend Solomon Burke called The Price. The chorus goes like this:

“You cost me my mother,
The love of my father,
Sister,
My brother, too,
See now what you've cost,
And I know just what I've lost,
And I know that's the price,
I've paid for loving someone like you"

The song is a love song to a woman. But when I play it, and I sing it out loud, and break down in tears, I am singing it to Jesus.

Becoming a Christian has cost me a lot. I have lost family upwards, sideways, and downwards, not to mention lifelong friends. Jehovah’s Witnesses are a cruel and heartless religion.

Just recently my older sister died and, on 25 August, I placed her ashes to rest in our mother’s grave. We had not spoken for over two decades, her being an active Witness and me being disfellowshipped. I was allowed to attend her memorial service at Kingdom Hall and, I must confess, I was totally surprised by the way I was treated. I expected to be told not to speak to anyone, to sit at the back and leave as soon as possible. The elders must have decided to have a truce for the event because I was hit by “love bombing”. Three sisters at Kingdom Hall almost wept on my shoulders as they embraced me and begged me to come back, for my dead sister’s sake, so she could see me again in the new system. I was allowed to sit with my father and I squeezed his arm all the way through. Afterwards I was invited back for refreshments and I was able to chat with JW friends from childhood. Truce for a day, with the local elders’ blessing, in my sister’s honour. I respect them for that.

But now we are back to business as usual. No communication allowed.

My motivation for being on this forum is mainly that, like Paul, I see those I have left behind at Kingdom Hall, as my kinfolk, my race, my roots. I could have them back tomorrow if only I “repented” of my crazy apostate belief that Jesus is my personal Saviour. Could I deny my Jesus? Never. So the only other thing I can do for my lost kinfolk, my race, my roots, is to try and reach out to them and share the truth of the gospel taught by Jesus Christ of salvation by grace alone, through faith alone, in Jesus Christ alone.

I suppose I also long for my grown estranged children to find my name on the internet through Google and discover what their apostate dad has to say for himself.
red blood relative

United States

#8 Sep 14, 2009
stanley walker....... i love you.
take it all with a grain of salt.
you are kicking the jw govererning bodys but right now, so the jw top leadership is coming to get you.

it's their job...... they are just trying to keep their positions as their followers worship them.
Hope This Helps

AOL

#9 Sep 14, 2009
Stanley Walker, your brutal honesty is admirable. I see such heart, such integrity in your posts. You have shown what it truly means to pick up your torture stake and follow Christ. Your experiences will lend strength to others who are struggling.

I am sorry for the loss of your sister. Not just for her passing, but for the many years the two of you never spoke. I am sorry for your children, too. You have let your light shine before men. That light is a beacon so very capable of drawing people in, drawing people to Jehovah and Jesus. Longing for your children to see the man you are is only natural. They should be delighted to have a father who exercises such heartflet love, hope, and devotion in our Savior.

Of course none of this my business, but seeing that you did share some of your story, I felt compelled to respond because your story is one of encouragement, one that can help build up others in the Lord.

God Bless you Stanley Walker. You certainly lift my spirits when I read your posts!

“By grace you have been saved”

Since: May 09

Croydon, UK

#10 Sep 14, 2009
red blood relative wrote:
the jw top leadership is coming to get you.
I await the knock on the door LOL

"Just because you're not paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get you." -- Mel Gibson
Pat

AOL

#11 Sep 15, 2009
Stanley Walker wrote:
Hi Manny
To what do I owe this great honour for being signalled out for attention?
Your momma was very wise. I like her saying.
What your momma said reminded me of two Scriptures which I will share with you.
"I tell the truth in Christ, I am not lying, my conscience also bearing me witness in the Holy Spirit, that I have great sorrow and continual grief in my heart. For I could wish that I myself were accursed from Christ for my brethren." -- Romans 9:1-3
"For to me, to live is Christ, and to die is gain. But if I live on in the flesh, this will mean fruit from my labor; yet what I shall choose I cannot tell. For I am hard-pressed between the two, having a desire to depart and be with Christ, which is far better." -- Philippians 1:21-23
Both were written by the apostle Paul.
Paul had great sorrow and continual grief in his heart for his brothers he had left behind in the Jews. Jesus Christ turned his world upside down and inside out. Paul loved his former brothers so much he offered to exchange his own eternal salvation for his brothers to know Jesus as their Saviour. Paul also reached a point in his life where he yearned for death so that he could be with his precious Jesus. But he also realised that, if he stayed on living on earth, he might still be able to be instrumental in leading others to Jesus as their Saviour.
I understand how Paul felt.
I was a Jehovah’s Witness for 35 years from infancy. It was all I knew as regards reality. But Jesus Christ turned my world upside down and inside out.
There is a song by Soul legend Solomon Burke called The Price. The chorus goes like this:
“You cost me my mother,
The love of my father,
Sister,
My brother, too,
See now what you've cost,
And I know just what I've lost,
And I know that's the price,
I've paid for loving someone like you"
The song is a love song to a woman. But when I play it, and I sing it out loud, and break down in tears, I am singing it to Jesus.
Becoming a Christian has cost me a lot. I have lost family upwards, sideways, and downwards, not to mention lifelong friends. Jehovah’s Witnesses are a cruel and heartless religion.
You have experienced a huge loss but you have gained so much more and God uses you to touch others I somehow think when our loss is as great as yours the reward God gives is going to be FANTASTIC . God bless.
red blood relative

United States

#12 Sep 15, 2009
stanly, you are way more mature than me...... i would never have given them the satisfaction of pretending they have christian love and compassion as they greet me...... i would have told them all to go to hell, and shove it up their @&$$.

creeps.

i just can't see going along with the scharade just to see my family who is also in on it.
dee

Williamston, SC

#14 Sep 16, 2009
Hope This Helps wrote:
Stanley Walker, your brutal honesty is admirable. I see such heart, such integrity in your posts. You have shown what it truly means to pick up your torture stake and follow Christ. Your experiences will lend strength to others who are struggling.
I am sorry for the loss of your sister. Not just for her passing, but for the many years the two of you never spoke. I am sorry for your children, too. You have let your light shine before men. That light is a beacon so very capable of drawing people in, drawing people to Jehovah and Jesus. Longing for your children to see the man you are is only natural. They should be delighted to have a father who exercises such heartflet love, hope, and devotion in our Savior.
Of course none of this my business, but seeing that you did share some of your story, I felt compelled to respond because your story is one of encouragement, one that can help build up others in the Lord.
God Bless you Stanley Walker. You certainly lift my spirits when I read your posts!
Beautifully said,HTH.
I agree that Stanley Walker is a wonderful example of the true Christian. One day his children will know what an admirable father they have,
May God bless you Stanley, and may His light shine upon you.

“Live, Laugh, Love”

Since: Sep 09

Field of Flowers

#15 Sep 16, 2009
dee wrote:
<quoted text> Beautifully said,HTH.
I agree that Stanley Walker is a wonderful example of the true Christian. One day his children will know what an admirable father they have,
May God bless you Stanley, and may His light shine upon you.
Hello, Dee.

I signed up. I wasn't aware this Topix thing kept track of comments on non-registered posters. Guess I've been busier on here than I thought...(LOL) If I keep this up, I might have 20,000 comments by the end of the year.(Just kidding.)

There are some posters on here who make great, non-judgmental teachers. I'm used to all the judging, being told don't do this, don't do that, told how to act, who to be, what to wear (right down to my shoes), how to look, what to read, what not to read, what to celebrate, what not to celebrate, how many hours to worship God, where to worship God, when I should worship God, etc... All the rules and regulations were enough to suffocate a person. I'm glad every "spiritual" person in the world isn't like that.

I've stepped outside of the WTBTS bubble and I'm learning that those of other faiths (especially those strictly relying on Jesus Christ) have a lot to offer by way of scriptures and truth.

I've always had someone screeching "False religion!" at me. I'm seeing that there is nothing false about reliance on Jesus Christ.
red blood relative

United States

#16 Sep 16, 2009
LAFF wrote:
<quoted text>
RBR, while I have never been a JW, nor has anyone in my family, THANK GOD!
I can see your point, but don't you think that on some occasions, it's not just all about me and what I believe?
Frankly, there are many "religions" with which I disagree, but I've attended a funeral or two, and at those funerals, I felt no need to point out the error of their ways.
To every thing there is a season.
PICK YOUR BATTLES CAREFULLY.
Firing for effect has limited use.
We all know that Jehovah's Witnesses are Satan's organization.
But is that what you want to pursue at a funeral?
thanks for your concern, i appreciate it because i respect you, but it wouldn't be about me, or arguing scriptures with those creeps, it would be about their fake temporary two faced concern for me as they pretend to have love.

i can't stand creepy fakes any more, i have had enough of them .... i have to be real around them, and am not interested in a creepy fake love bomb designed to make a fool out of me.

if any of them would have reached out to shake my hand i would have told them to just go ahead and keep your fake bs and drop dead and go to hell.

they are a bunch of snakes...... i know i sound harsh, but i have been through this with my own family in a different way.... and i hope they all drop dead....... i'll see them in the next life.
i wouldn't even go to the funeral, for that reason....... i didn't go to my fathers funeral, and i am not going to my mothers funeral when it occurs... they made their bed.... i'll see them in the next life.
Pat

AOL

#17 Sep 16, 2009
Hope Ember wrote:
<quoted text>Hello, Dee.
I signed up. I wasn't aware this Topix thing kept track of comments on non-registered posters. Guess I've been busier on here than I thought...(LOL) If I keep this up, I might have 20,000 comments by the end of the year.(Just kidding.)
There are some posters on here who make great, non-judgmental teachers. I'm used to all the judging, being told don't do this, don't do that, told how to act, who to be, what to wear (right down to my shoes), how to look, what to read, what not to read, what to celebrate, what not to celebrate, how many hours to worship God, where to worship God, when I should worship God, etc... All the rules and regulations were enough to suffocate a person. I'm glad every "spiritual" person in the world isn't like that.
I've stepped outside of the WTBTS bubble and I'm learning that those of other faiths (especially those strictly relying on Jesus Christ) have a lot to offer by way of scriptures and truth.
I've always had someone screeching "False religion!" at me. I'm seeing that there is nothing false about reliance on Jesus Christ.
Really nice butterfly you have there ,So true nothing false about reliance on Jesus .God bless .

“By grace you have been saved”

Since: May 09

Blairgowrie, UK

#18 Jul 4, 2012
With the death of my father, a Jehovah’s Witness, it seems appropriate to resurrect [pun intended] this thread, particularly post #6 on how I was treated at my sister’s funeral in 2009

Since: Jul 11

Portadown

#19 Jul 14, 2012
Stanley Walker wrote:
With the death of my father, a Jehovah’s Witness, it seems appropriate to resurrect [pun intended] this thread, particularly post #6 on how I was treated at my sister’s funeral in 2009
What a trial that must have been for your faith Stanley,until now I never realised the full implications of Matthew 10v37.

He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me.

You are an inspiration to all God fearing people, and God promises,They that honour me I will honour.

Since: Jan 11

Location hidden

#21 Dec 17, 2012
In Hebrews 1:8-12 "But with reference to the Son [he says].....'You at the beginning, O Lord, laid the foundations of the earth itself, and the heavens are the works of your hands'" –
I believe this scripture is referring to the 'new heaven's and new earth;( the new creation ) Jesus is said to be 'the builder of the house and we are the household of God." (Hebrews 3:3)

“By grace you have been saved”

Since: May 09

Chorley, UK

#22 Dec 18, 2012
freeInChrist wrote:
In Hebrews 1:8-12 "But with reference to the Son [he says].....'You at the beginning, O Lord, laid the foundations of the earth itself, and the heavens are the works of your hands'" –
I believe this scripture is referring to the 'new heaven's and new earth;( the new creation ) Jesus is said to be 'the builder of the house and we are the household of God." (Hebrews 3:3)
I'm not sure why you resurrected this thread again freeInChrist but, no matter, I would say that Hebrews 1:8-12 appears to be a quotation from Psalm 102

The New World Translation introduces Psalm 102 with these words:

“A prayer of the afflicted in case he grows feeble and pours out his concern before Jehovah himself.”

So, according to the Watchtower Society, what follows is in a prayer to Jehovah:

“At the beginning it was you, O Lord, who founded the earth,
and the heavens are works of your hands.
They will perish, but you will endure,
and they will all become old like a garment.
Like clothing you will change them, and they will be changed.
But you are the same, and your years will not fail.”
-- Psalm 102:25-27 Septuagint

I believe the phrase "at the beginning" refers us to the original creation and not to the 'new heaven's and new earth' of the new creation.

Now turn to Hebrews chapter 1 where Paul quotes Psalm 102:25-27 from the Septuagint and applies the Psalm to Jesus Christ, the Son of God:

With reference to the Son he says (see verse 8):

“You at the beginning, O Lord, laid the foundations of the earth itself,
and the heavens are the works of your hands.
They themselves will perish, but you yourself are to remain continually;
and just like an outer garment they will all grow old,
and you will wrap them up just as a cloak, as an outer garment;
and they will be changed,
but you are the same, and your years will never run out.”
Hebrews 1:10-12

So, according to Paul at Hebrews 1:8-12, the Son of God, Jesus Christ, can be identified with Jehovah the creator of Psalm 102:25

Surely not you say. But read it again and again. There is no escaping it.

Paul says Jesus is Jehovah

Since: Jul 11

Portadown

#23 Dec 19, 2012
freeInChrist wrote:
In Hebrews 1:8-12 "But with reference to the Son [he says].....'You at the beginning, O Lord, laid the foundations of the earth itself, and the heavens are the works of your hands'" –
I believe this scripture is referring to the 'new heaven's and new earth;( the new creation ) Jesus is said to be 'the builder of the house and we are the household of God." (Hebrews 3:3)
This scripture is very clearly not referring to any future new heaven or new earth.

Look at it from the very first verse.

Hebrews 1
1. God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets,

"SPAKE IN TIMES PAST " past tense.

2.Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;

"HATH" past tense.
"MADE" past tense.

3. Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high:

"BEING" past tense.
"WHEN HE HAD" past tense.

4 Being made so much better than the angels, as he hath by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they.

"MADE" past tense. "HATH" past tense.
BY INHERITANCE" past tense.
"OBTAINED" past tense.

9.Thou hast loved righteousness, and hated iniquity; therefore God, even thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows.

"LOVED" past tense.
"HATED" past tense.
"HATH" past tense.

10. And, Thou, Lord, in the beginning hast laid the foundation of the earth; and the heavens are the works of thine hands:

Tell us how the Lord in the beginning LAID the foundation of the earth,means he actually did not but he will in the future?
and how the heavens are not yet the work of his hands?

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