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Obama calls for Peace and Security at the UN

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Since: Feb 09

Zebulon, NC

#1 Sep 25, 2009
This week President Obama addressed the world leaders from other countries at the United Nations building.

Noteworthy were the 3 words that always send a shock wave through every Jehovah's Witness:

"Upon taking office, I appointed a special envoy for Middle East peace. And America has worked steadily and aggressively to advance the cause of two states, Israel and Palestine, in which PEACE and SECURITY take root and the rights of both Israelis and Palestinians are respected."

You can bet that once they all learn that the president mentioned 'Peace and Security' in his speech to the General Assembly, they will all be excitedly telling each other:'This could be it! This could be the fulfillment of 1 Thess. 5:3!'

Incidentally, that scripture says:

 Whenever it is that they are saying:“Peace and security!” then sudden destruction is to be instantly upon them just as the pang of distress upon a pregnant woman; and they will by no means escape.(1 Thess. 5:3)

Anyone familiar with the teachings of Jehovah's Witnesses can verify that they actually LIVE for that moment.

They expect that at some point that there will be a global call for peace and security and then Armageddon soon after.

Look forward to another worldwide campaign push by the Witnesses to try and boost their membership through fear of impending world calamity. It will have some limited success. They didn't reach 7 million members resting on their laurels.

(Even the Sears organization has learned a thing or two from the Witnesses marketing and sales strategy. They are now sending their own 'ministers' out on twos and going from door to door. I had a visit by a couple of them the other day. They were well-dressed and neat and so polite. They even passed out some of the literature and agreed to come back later to see what I think of what I read. They WILL have some success too.)

Since: Jan 07

Location hidden

#2 Sep 25, 2009
CIA Free wrote:
This week President Obama addressed the world leaders from other countries at the United Nations building.
Noteworthy were the 3 words that always send a shock wave through every Jehovah's Witness:
"Upon taking office, I appointed a special envoy for Middle East peace. And America has worked steadily and aggressively to advance the cause of two states, Israel and Palestine, in which PEACE and SECURITY take root and the rights of both Israelis and Palestinians are respected."
You can bet that once they all learn that the president mentioned 'Peace and Security' in his speech to the General Assembly, they will all be excitedly telling each other:'This could be it! This could be the fulfillment of 1 Thess. 5:3!'
Incidentally, that scripture says:
 Whenever it is that they are saying:“Peace and security!” then sudden destruction is to be instantly upon them just as the pang of distress upon a pregnant woman; and they will by no means escape.(1 Thess. 5:3)
Anyone familiar with the teachings of Jehovah's Witnesses can verify that they actually LIVE for that moment.
They expect that at some point that there will be a global call for peace and security and then Armageddon soon after.
Look forward to another worldwide campaign push by the Witnesses to try and boost their membership through fear of impending world calamity. It will have some limited success. They didn't reach 7 million members resting on their laurels.
(Even the Sears organization has learned a thing or two from the Witnesses marketing and sales strategy. They are now sending their own 'ministers' out on twos and going from door to door. I had a visit by a couple of them the other day. They were well-dressed and neat and so polite. They even passed out some of the literature and agreed to come back later to see what I think of what I read. They WILL have some success too.)
*** 1 The 5:3 For when they are saying,“Peace and safety,” then sudden destruction will come on them, like birth pains on a pregnant woman; and they will in no way escape.

One tends to wonder if CIA Free believes that 1 Th 5:3 will ever be fulfilled.

Or is it only JWs who believe what the Bible teaches?

Since: Aug 09

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#3 Sep 25, 2009
Poor Obama the guy means well.

No GodNeeded

“Get out of the cult!”

Since: Sep 09

New England USA

#4 Sep 25, 2009
CIA Free wrote:
This week President Obama addressed the world leaders from other countries at the United Nations building.
Noteworthy were the 3 words that always send a shock wave through every Jehovah's Witness:
"Upon taking office, I appointed a special envoy for Middle East peace. And America has worked steadily and aggressively to advance the cause of two states, Israel and Palestine, in which PEACE and SECURITY take root and the rights of both Israelis and Palestinians are respected."
You can bet that once they all learn that the president mentioned 'Peace and Security' in his speech to the General Assembly, they will all be excitedly telling each other:'This could be it! This could be the fulfillment of 1 Thess. 5:3!'
Incidentally, that scripture says:
Whenever it is that they are saying:“Peace and security!” then sudden destruction is to be instantly upon them just as the pang of distress upon a pregnant woman; and they will by no means escape.(1 Thess. 5:3)
Anyone familiar with the teachings of Jehovah's Witnesses can verify that they actually LIVE for that moment.
They expect that at some point that there will be a global call for peace and security and then Armageddon soon after.
Look forward to another worldwide campaign push by the Witnesses to try and boost their membership through fear of impending world calamity. It will have some limited success. They didn't reach 7 million members resting on their laurels.
(Even the Sears organization has learned a thing or two from the Witnesses marketing and sales strategy. They are now sending their own 'ministers' out on twos and going from door to door. I had a visit by a couple of them the other day. They were well-dressed and neat and so polite. They even passed out some of the literature and agreed to come back later to see what I think of what I read. They WILL have some success too.)
Yeah, and Jws jump up and down every time there is a political change. I remember then the USSR was no more, Peace and security, the end is near,, blah blah blah.

Since: May 08

Sacramento, CA

#5 Sep 25, 2009
If it says "sudden destruction will come on them...", wouldn't it all be over by now if his words were the catalyst?

Since: Aug 09

Location hidden

#6 Sep 25, 2009
Keep laughin.

Since: May 08

Sacramento, CA

#7 Sep 25, 2009
How is it decided about who will be the one to say those words and have it mean the end is here? I mean, those words have been said before by lots of people.

Since: Jan 07

Location hidden

#8 Sep 25, 2009
No GodNeeded wrote:
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Yeah, and Jws jump up and down every time there is a political change. I remember then the USSR was no more, Peace and security, the end is near,, blah blah blah.
The only people I see jumping up and down here because of Obama's words is you and CIA Free.

Since: Jan 07

Location hidden

#9 Sep 25, 2009
scourge wrote:
How is it decided about who will be the one to say those words and have it mean the end is here? I mean, those words have been said before by lots of people.
Prophecy is often not fully understood until during or after its fulfilment.

JWs believe that the call for "peace and security" will be an unmistakable world wide announcement. Not simply the words of one politician.

It is notable that the term "peace and security" has become a regular "buzz word" in recent times. It is also the core mandate of the United Nations.

The fact that "peace and security" is being mentioned so much nowadays does perk JWs up because it indicates that the prophetic call may well be getting close.

But like I said, when the actual prophetic call comes, it should be unmistakable.

I believe that there are a number of things that are expected to happen BEFORE this prophetic call occurs.

So JWs are not expecting the world to end every time a politician says "peace and security". It is just an indication of the times we live in.

Since: Aug 09

Location hidden

#10 Sep 25, 2009
Didn't another president call for the samething before?

Since: Aug 09

Location hidden

#11 Sep 25, 2009
Also, it doesn't have to be one isolated event when they call for peace and security it could be a number of events of a period of many years.
the voice of common sense

Ely, UK

#12 Sep 25, 2009
Wow yeh fellow apostates lets mobilize ourselves to lull everyone off to spiritual sleep.Lets make sure no-one keeps on the alert!Lets oppose anything and everything the witnesses say even if it means making ourselves into a laughing stock !
wonder

Warrensburg, NY

#13 Sep 25, 2009
Duh-boy wrote:
Didn't another president call for the samething before?
AS a a matter of fact. They have heared the witnesses use that comment . so many times that by the time armageddon comes.. it will be worn out..
I suspect that that call will be more universal in scope and not just about a couple warring nations kissing and making up. There is a lot more hanging on those words then just saying them..

Since: Feb 07

RI

#14 Sep 25, 2009
scourge wrote:
How is it decided about who will be the one to say those words and have it mean the end is here? I mean, those words have been said before by lots of people.
Absolutely correct. And every time those words are uttered, there are a sizeable number of JWs who get all excited about it.

Since: May 08

Sacramento, CA

#15 Sep 25, 2009
Gareth wrote:
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Prophecy is often not fully understood until during or after its fulfilment.
JWs believe that the call for "peace and security" will be an unmistakable world wide announcement. Not simply the words of one politician.
It is notable that the term "peace and security" has become a regular "buzz word" in recent times. It is also the core mandate of the United Nations.
The fact that "peace and security" is being mentioned so much nowadays does perk JWs up because it indicates that the prophetic call may well be getting close.
But like I said, when the actual prophetic call comes, it should be unmistakable.
I believe that there are a number of things that are expected to happen BEFORE this prophetic call occurs.
So JWs are not expecting the world to end every time a politician says "peace and security". It is just an indication of the times we live in.
Oh, okay. I was wondering because, like you say, it's not like that's an uncommon phrase.

What other things do you believe will happen that lead up to the end?

Since: May 08

Sacramento, CA

#16 Sep 25, 2009
RedhorseWoman wrote:
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Absolutely correct. And every time those words are uttered, there are a sizeable number of JWs who get all excited about it.
That would be exhausting. Hopefully most people are a little more level headed than that. I mean, if a person gets all excited every time there is a crisis or someone says certian words, lately they'd be in overdrive all the time.

As far as that goes, I don't know how I could maintain a certianty that the end of the world was coming my whole life. That is a very gloomy forecast.

I know JW's don't look at it that way. They look forward to it because of their beliefs, but it still has to be stressful on some level.
red blood relative

United States

#17 Sep 25, 2009
obamah doesn't know nothing about muslims..... i am dissapointed in him...... he thinks he can mediate peace between them and the jews and everyone else..

that is a totally stupid quest....... they are bent on taking over the world, no matter what.
even if they agree to peace deals it's just theocratic warfare as they plot the explosives.

obama may think its just alkiada, but the whole muslim community is all about taking over the world in secret no matter what lies they have to tell, or how wicked they have to get to accomplish it.......... they all secretly support taking over the world with all of their monetary means and even their children.

obama is not wise to it..... he is duped, and america is in trouble.
twotoned

United States

#18 Sep 25, 2009
THe establishment of a New World Order is what is supposed to bring "peace and security" worldwide. I don't think this pertains specifically to Israel and Palestine.

Since: May 08

Sacramento, CA

#19 Sep 25, 2009
red blood relative wrote:
...obama is not wise to it..... he is duped, and america is in trouble.
I totally agree with you there. He's cluelss and we're in a heap of touble unless something changes.

Since: May 08

Sacramento, CA

#20 Sep 25, 2009
*trouble

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