Why People Become JW's?

“Paradise Earth”

Since: Sep 11

Location hidden

#22 Sep 22, 2012
jace wrote:
FOLKS WE CAN'T MAKE THIS STUFF UP
That doesn't seem to stop you.
UNchained

Kingsport, TN

#23 Sep 22, 2012
Aneirin wrote:
READERS should examine what Jehovah's Witnesses have to say for themselves and that may give them a better understanding of why people become interested in serving Jehovah:
Jehovah's Witnesses:
http://www.jw.org/en/
Jehovah's Witnesses' publications:
http://www.jw.org/en/publications/
Jehovah's Witnesses' Bible teachings:
http://www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/
Do Jehovah's Witnesses lead people to Jesus like His disciples did as recorded in the bible or do they lead people to an organisation?

He first found his own brother Simon and told him,“We have found the Messiah!”(which means “Anointed One”), and he brought [Simon] to Jesus.
John 1:41-42

Jesus found Philip and told him,“Follow Me!”
Now Philip was from Bethsaida, the hometown of Andrew and Peter. Philip found Nathanael and told him,“We have found the One Moses wrote about in the law (and so did the prophets): Jesus the son of Joseph, from Nazareth!”
“Can anything good come out of Nazareth?” Nathanael asked him.
“Come and see,” Philip answered.
John 1:43-46

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*** Directing Students to the Organization Behind Our Name ***

Every disciple maker must realize that it is his responsibility to direct the Bible student to God’s organization.(1 Tim. 4:16) Each study session should be viewed as a stepping-stone toward the happy day when the new one will symbolize his dedication to Jehovah by water baptism.

One of the questions that he will be asked during the baptism ceremony is:

“Do you understand that your dedication and baptism identify you as one of Jehovah’s Witnesses in association with God’s spirit-directed organization?”

Hence, it is important that he realize he cannot serve God without actively associating with the true Christian congregation.
April 1997 Kingdom Ministry
Page 3
Paragraph 5
Daniel a Slave of Christ

Rockport, TX

#24 Sep 22, 2012
Sincere people have unwittingly gotten involved with many of mankind cruelest dictators of the worlds history believing in change for the human race only to find out at some point they have a crises of conscious. To understand the progression and control of the mind-set of JW's its almost impossible unless you have experienced it first hand.

WTS members believe with sincerity that all other religions are corrupt and any association with them is a compromise of their faith, which is uncleanness to them spiritually. So there is no honest conversation with a JW's using God's word the bible.

If they can find a point of agreement its not sincere it is a point to get you to accept their ideas from the GB. With this mind-set they are closed minded because everyone is trying to mislead them into compromising their faith. Subsequently, correction of biblical teachings cannot come from any outside source, it must come from their GB.

This type of thinking goes against the scriptures because God often used the very thing the Israelite hated to correct his nation. Furthermore, one must always keep in mind that WTS teaches has never changed in teachings, they are God's ark of salvation for the human race, if a person is going to be saved, they must be an active part of WTS.

So when a person opens the door to the most happy people on earth one finds out the control starts from the first study by inculcating fear into each member they better obey the GB, or lose out on eternal life. Each member of JW's knows this is true, but they believe this control and fear of judgment is better than people being in what they call false religion.

Subsequently, they live a lie each day of their life, this is why there is so much depression and such a fierce attacking of anyone disagreeing with their teachings.

See more jwsstraighttalk.com
UNchained

Kingsport, TN

#25 Sep 22, 2012
Daniel a Slave of Christ wrote:
Sincere people have unwittingly gotten involved with many of mankind cruelest dictators of the worlds history believing in change for the human race only to find out at some point they have a crises of conscious. To understand the progression and control of the mind-set of JW's its almost impossible unless you have experienced it first hand.
WTS members believe with sincerity that all other religions are corrupt and any association with them is a compromise of their faith, which is uncleanness to them spiritually. So there is no honest conversation with a JW's using God's word the bible.
If they can find a point of agreement its not sincere it is a point to get you to accept their ideas from the GB. With this mind-set they are closed minded because everyone is trying to mislead them into compromising their faith. Subsequently, correction of biblical teachings cannot come from any outside source, it must come from their GB.
This type of thinking goes against the scriptures because God often used the very thing the Israelite hated to correct his nation. Furthermore, one must always keep in mind that WTS teaches has never changed in teachings, they are God's ark of salvation for the human race, if a person is going to be saved, they must be an active part of WTS.
So when a person opens the door to the most happy people on earth one finds out the control starts from the first study by inculcating fear into each member they better obey the GB, or lose out on eternal life. Each member of JW's knows this is true, but they believe this control and fear of judgment is better than people being in what they call false religion.
Subsequently, they live a lie each day of their life, this is why there is so much depression and such a fierce attacking of anyone disagreeing with their teachings.
See more jwsstraighttalk.com
"So when a person opens the door to the most happy people on earth one finds out the control starts from the first study by inculcating fear into each member they better obey the GB, or lose out on eternal life."

August 1, 2004 Watchtower
Page 11
Paragraph 12

Similarly, we will be blessed if we recognize and obey the prophet greater than Moses, Jesus, as well as “the faithful and discreet slave” appointed by him.

September 1, 2004 Watchtower
Page 17
Paragraph 18

*** Beware of “the Voice of Strangers”***

What does Jesus, the Fine Shepherd, tell us to do? He teaches us to make disciples and to trust “the faithful and discreet slave.”

“Surprised By Love”

Since: Aug 12

Location hidden

#26 Sep 22, 2012
I became a JW at 13. The teaching of living forever on a paradise earth was appealing to me because I loved nature. Also I never believed In the Trinity and I liked the fact that they taught that people would not burn in hell. I never could get my head around God torturing people for eternity, still can't.

Unfortunately these positive teachings were soon overshadowed by the realities of living in a high control religion. I wanted to please God, but being told what to think, do and say was not easy. I kept on trying to live by these very restrictive rules, but found it increasingly difficult. I felt like I was putting so much into it but getting nothing back. The requirements of constant, endless meetings was burdensome to me. I was told I was weak, not a good Christian. I accepted these judgements and stupidly kept trying to live a life that didn't fit

When I converted, we were sure that this system of things would end in 1975. When that didn't happen we were told we all "read too much into it ". It didn't bother me, I wanted to do the right thing. I was trapped in an unhappy marriage, but couldn't get divorced per the Watchtower rules. I stayed and suffered.

Finally I reached a breaking point. I just could not believe my staying in a sad, empty marriage was what God would want. I left the marriage and the religion and never looked back. I have never regretted my decision. I am happier than I ever believed possible. I think my staying in this religion was the bad decision of a lifetime. I enjoy a rich spiritual life that doesn't needs a stamp of approval from the boys in Brooklyn.

The Watchtower defenders on this site will attack any who disagree with the WTBTS. Its strange because Jehovah's Witnesses are not allowed on sites like these, so they are defending an organization to which they wont actually commit. Their defence is hollow. They do not scare me. I listened to Watchtower zombies for 34 years, it didn't work for me then, I sure won't fall for it now.
Jace

Woodbridge, VA

#27 Sep 22, 2012
Aneirin wrote:
<quoted text>
That doesn't seem to stop you.
Let me help you out since you are a little slow , the phrase is in ref to some dumb statement that you or another jw has made
The point being there is no need to make up stuff on jw

Recently you stated that the bible teaches god has a symbolic prophet problem is the wt doesn't teach that

You merely made it up

So like I said we can't make up stuff as good as jw and wt can actually come up with

As they say truth is wilder than fiction

“Paradise Earth”

Since: Sep 11

Location hidden

#28 Sep 22, 2012
Jace wrote:
The point being there is no need to make up stuff on jw
Yet still you do.
Jace

Woodbridge, VA

#29 Sep 22, 2012
Aneirin wrote:
<quoted text>
That doesn't seem to stop you.
Your personal challenge from me to you is still waiting
Don't hide behind fifty cent post like this GARETH

I will stop posting if you will publicly show where I took the wt article out of context

You can't hide

Lol
Jace

Woodbridge, VA

#30 Sep 22, 2012
Aneirin wrote:
<quoted text>
Yet still you do.
I'm sorry GARETH that the guys in writing put some of the goofiest stuff In Print

That ain't my fault. Se this is why o
I enjoy posting with jw like yourself. Some of the stuff the guys have in print you just can't defend it

You are left making a fool out of yourself trying

One of my professors. Made a good point about groups like jw

They have. No problem making their most loyal sincere and devoted supporters like yourself look like fools

I literally need you here with me posting - you like most jw don't understand the real reason the society does not want jw involved in public debates

See they know that upon close examination a lot of the stuff they teach is just man made

With the unknowing help of posters like you and others you provide the confirmation

An online jw is in trouble the moment they keep posting. And the best part. Jw like you never learn that

Lol

So head on over to the time counting post I setup just for you

Since: Mar 09

United States

#31 Sep 22, 2012
JW's teach the ungarnished Bible Truth, no matter whose toes it may step on....or who likes it or not.

“Bustin' Myths”

Since: Dec 09

Location hidden

#32 Sep 22, 2012
UNchained wrote:
<quoted text>
Why did you become a Jehovah's Witness?
Oooh, I know, I know!

I can post his story here if he won't answer.
apple

Singapore, Singapore

#34 Sep 23, 2012
cos they love to be jws. simple as that.

it's good to teach but teach it right.

“Surprised By Love”

Since: Aug 12

Location hidden

#35 Sep 23, 2012
Nomi wrote:
JW's teach the ungarnished Bible Truth, no matter whose toes it may step on....or who likes it or not.
Second time you've posted this same comment Noni. What do you do, save them and just cut and paste?
And again I have to ask, UNGARNISHED? Did they forget the parsley?
Definition: Ungarnished: not garnished or furnished ; not adorned or equipped ; not properly provided or equipped.
I think you meant to say UNVARNISHED. I agree the Watchtower is not properly equipped, but I don't think that is what you meant to say. Since you aren't going to bother to create new posts, but just regugitate old ones, at least make sure they correct.
Daniel a Slave of Christ

Rockport, TX

#36 Sep 23, 2012
WTS member do not believe they can be corrected by the world, who are the world for JW's? Anyone that not a part of their organization. In other words, if the correction is not coming from a brother in the organization its not truth, it is persecution from the devil!

So a JW's can be a hypocrite to the whole world publicly exposed as a hypocrite, and that judgment does not matter if brothers in the organization don't correct the person, hence, everybody else is wrong.

So when a witnesses comes on this forum there is no correcting the person they are blinded to any correction, unless they have an honest heart which of course is impossible at some point, when living a lie.

When WTS members are so foolish to believe God judgments are overlooked because they make themselves a part of the so called ark of salvation of God, WTS, they live a lie. God standards of judgment are the same for all people.

Another factor that plays into the mindset of JW's is their being superior, being chosen by God this pride of being right filters down into their whole life affecting their families, which is why so many children of WTS members don't say with the group.

Being right, having the truth, and fear makes them preach, but in preaching they are not listening what you have to say its not important, but rather where they can make a point. They must be in control of the conversation so they don't compromise letting you think they agree with your teachings of the bible that is a know sin.

See more: jwsstraighttalk.com
Daniel a Slave of Christ

Rockport, TX

#37 Sep 23, 2012
Continued:

All this is beyond WTS members understanding their salvation comes through works of law, they simply can't comprehend that they are earning salvation by being always being right and preaching. Without this they are found compromising which loses them salvation, so every word matters, how it said, and making sure the person says it or they are consider weak and/or a traitor too the truth.

This pressure is fear of judgment which they deny, love of nieghbor does not enter into the picture accept verbally to deceive their own hearts or that of brothers and sisters. This conduct after a very short time of inculcation through meetings and personal contact with other mentor witness create a running tape in their minds that played constantly creating much mental torment just going to a store can be a challenge where they don't do, or say something wrong to other people.

The world is dirty and touching it too much causes one contamination, protection from the world forces members deeper and deeper into only associating with the WTS members. Where they can let their guard down. This is promoted as good and being a strong member. Subsequently, after a number of years of this type of association one can see why they ex-members do so bad readjusting themselves into any type of relationship outside the WTS membership.

The idea of being the only ones in the world that understand the bible, which makes them superior and powerful as God's chosen people does not mean anything to other religions or the world, in fact, it is very odd to think in such away.

Moreover, being cut off from any material or being able to listen to anyone else opinions makes one a dummy ones mind down so much that when something comes out in the Watchtower or Awake they literal believe its clean and their organization is the only ones that could have written the article so well. So when you tell an uneducated JW's that information has been around thousand's of years it not “new light”, well your just lying, it not truth, until the GB regurgitates it for its members.

In other words, if its touch by the GB it holy, and if its not touched the their GB its unclean. Now thinking honestly about this mindset!
Fear is all members know and they call it love.

See more; jwsstraighttalk.com

“Christmas ONLY for Christians!”

Since: Sep 12

Location hidden

#38 Sep 23, 2012
Check out jwreform.org

Another good one is jwreform.com

clearly, jehovah's witnesses are a false, demonic religion.

When you arrive at jwreform.com listen carefully to a video of a jw judicial hearing.

This is clearly ignorance in motion.

“Paradise Earth”

Since: Sep 11

Location hidden

#39 Sep 23, 2012
Daniel a Slave of Christ wrote:
WTS member do not believe they can be corrected by the world, who are the world for JW's? Anyone that not a part of their organization. In other words, if the correction is not coming from a brother in the organization its not truth, it is persecution from the devil!
So a JW's can be a hypocrite to the whole world publicly exposed as a hypocrite, and that judgment does not matter if brothers in the organization don't correct the person, hence, everybody else is wrong.
So when a witnesses comes on this forum there is no correcting the person they are blinded to any correction, unless they have an honest heart which of course is impossible at some point, when living a lie.
When WTS members are so foolish to believe God judgments are overlooked because they make themselves a part of the so called ark of salvation of God, WTS, they live a lie. God standards of judgment are the same for all people.
Another factor that plays into the mindset of JW's is their being superior, being chosen by God this pride of being right filters down into their whole life affecting their families, which is why so many children of WTS members don't say with the group.
Being right, having the truth, and fear makes them preach, but in preaching they are not listening what you have to say its not important, but rather where they can make a point. They must be in control of the conversation so they don't compromise letting you think they agree with your teachings of the bible that is a know sin.
See more: jwsstraighttalk.com
As we can see the claims made by those with a religious agenda against Jehovah's Witness are ridiculous.

You can discover how Jehovah's Witnesses really feel by talking to them in person.

Find a Kingdom Hall near you!
http://www.jw.org/apps/index.html...

Turn up to one of their meetings:
http://www.jw.org/en/jehovahs-witnesses/meeti...

Request a free Bible study!
https://www.jw.org/en/free-bible-study/

Jehovah's Witnesses are NOTHING LIKE these people from RIVAL religious denominations try to make them out to be:

*** Matt 10:25 It is enough for the disciple that he be like his teacher, and the servant like his lord. If they have called the master of the house Beelzebul, how much more those of his household!
little lamb

Australia

#40 Sep 23, 2012
And Another wrote:
Ok, Slave of Christ,
What if I'm an Aboriginee living in Australia. I have no phone, internet, books, and I have been raised to believe in the spiritual teaching of my forefathers, no Jehovah's Witnesses know I exist and no Christians know where I am either. I'm in a remote section of land. If I live my whole life in happiness complacent with my surroundings and I die happy.
I'm just thinking of how silly it is to proclaim a middle eastern deity 2000 years old or more to a civilization that will never probably hear of it.
I have to put myself in the shoes of all those in the world who view the middle eastern message of Jesus as one that simply cannot make geographical sense in many climates.
Knowing some of the things I know about Aboriginal beliefs..you would be like any other religion held in superstition and fear of ghoul-i's and ghost i's like a lot of superstitious people, and controlled by the Elders of the tribe..he he

You don't even have the freedom to choose your own mate..you have young girls given to old men.

Do you ever think men get away from superstition and live happily ever after..not on your life

Jesus is the one that tells us the truth..and the truth shall set you free.

Since: Sep 11

Brantford, Canada

#41 Sep 23, 2012
Jace wrote:
<quoted text>
Your personal challenge from me to you is still waiting
Don't hide behind fifty cent post like this GARETH
I will stop posting if you will publicly show where I took the wt article out of context
You can't hide
Lol
I find it odd that he will engage you on this and other threads, but will go nowhere near the thread you posted for him. You would think that as a jw, with the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth, he would engage you to get rid of you once and for all. It would be gret for the borg, and he would surely attain status for slaying you.
Jace

Woodbridge, VA

#42 Sep 23, 2012
Stingo wrote:
<quoted text>
I find it odd that he will engage you on this and other threads, but will go nowhere near the thread you posted for him. You would think that as a jw, with the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth, he would engage you to get rid of you once and for all. It would be gret for the borg, and he would surely attain status for slaying you.
Bingo. See jw sad to say due to years of indoctrination just are not very bright after having all reasoning skill dulled down

You would think that he would realize thinking persons would ask

Why does a guy who disagrees so strongly with jace on point after point comment to high heaven on all thes other post with jace

all of a sudden when asked a point blank question in regards to his own accusation towards jace go silent

See readers can see I have offered to provide the publication if he does not have access
And will stop posting if he can show where I took it out of context.

He knows I have shown him to be a liar and his pride prevents from admitting it

I do glad this is a Public forum. Any honest reader can see it

See his 50000 post have come back to haunt him
An. Advid poster as he is fails to address a direct thread to him????????

Yea right

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