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2011-2012 Circuit Assembly --"Let God's Name be Sanctified"

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#1 Sep 3, 2011
Saturday Morning

9:40 Music

9:50 Song No. 5 and Prayer'

10:00 Your Privilege to be a people for God's Name

10:20 Theocratic Ministry School

10:50 Song No. 95 and Announcements

11:00 Make God's name Known as Full-time Servants

11:25 Dedication and Baptism

11:55 Song No. 7

Afternoon

1:20 Music

1:30 Song no. 92

1:35 Experiences

1:45 Symposium: Beware of Bringing Reproach on Jehovah's Name

--Social Networking

--Pornography

--Harmful Gossip

--Bad Association

2:45 Song No. 17 and Announcements

2:55 Why God's name must be sanctified

3:25 Do Not Take Up Jehovah's Name in Vain

3:55 Song No. 112 and Prayer

Sunday Morning

9:40 Music

9:50 Song No. 10 and Prayer

10:00 Daily Thinking upon God's name

10:10 Symposium: Sanctify God's Name by...

--Your Thoughts

--Your Speeck

--Your Decisions

--Your Conduct

11:10 Song No. 67 and Announcements

11:20 Summary of The Watchtower

11:50 Giving Attention to the needs of the Circuit

12:15 Song No. 45

Afternoon

1:30 Music

1:40 Song No. 1 and Prayer

Public Address:

Jehovah Will Sanctify His Great Name at Armageddon

2:20 Song No. 30 and Announcements

2:30 Do you love Jehovah's Name?

3:00 "You will Certainly Know Jehovah"

3:30 Song No. 34 and Prayer

**** Public Address:

Jehovah Will Sanctify His Great Name at Armageddon

This won't sound crazy at all to nonJW.

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#2 Sep 3, 2011
While inclining to view the pronunciation "Yah.weh" as the more correct way, we have retained the form "Jehovah" because of people's familiarity with it since the 14th century.

Why then did the cult forfeit accuracy to use the word Jehovah, which began to be used in the 14th century?

Their answer is because of people's familiarity with it.

That is another way of saying that they have upheld the traditions of man's inventions at the expense of truth and accuracy, which they knew about.

Sounds like a cult that preaches lies.

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#3 Sep 3, 2011
Reality Dispencer wrote:
While inclining to view the pronunciation "Yah.weh" as the more correct way, we have retained the form "Jehovah" because of people's familiarity with it since the 14th century.
Why then did the cult forfeit accuracy to use the word Jehovah, which began to be used in the 14th century?
Their answer is because of people's familiarity with it.
That is another way of saying that they have upheld the traditions of man's inventions at the expense of truth and accuracy, which they knew about.
Sounds like a cult that preaches lies.
Attend the 2011-2012 Circuit Assembly to hear more lies from the JW cult.

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#4 Sep 4, 2011
Reality Dispencer wrote:
While inclining to view the pronunciation "Yah.weh" as the more correct way, we have retained the form "Jehovah" because of people's familiarity with it since the 14th century.
Why then did the cult forfeit accuracy to use the word Jehovah, which began to be used in the 14th century?
Their answer is because of people's familiarity with it.
That is another way of saying that they have upheld the traditions of man's inventions at the expense of truth and accuracy, which they knew about.
Sounds like a cult that preaches lies.
Old man Dan refuted this line of thinking last week.

http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/jehovahs-...

If its not Jehovah then its not Jesus!

http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/jehovahs-...

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#5 Sep 4, 2011
Gee now I know why my relatives are freaked out over my using fb calling it bad association ect... God does it ever stop. People are such sheeple

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#6 Sep 4, 2011
CMWYW wrote:
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Old man Dan refuted this line of thinking last week.
http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/jehovahs-...
If its not Jehovah then its not Jesus!
http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/jehovahs-...
If it's not Jehovah the it's not Jesus?

Are they the same?

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#7 Sep 4, 2011
Richard the Cry Baby wrote:
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If it's not Jehovah the it's not Jesus?
Are they the same?
Read the threads!

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#8 Sep 4, 2011
CMWYW wrote:
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Read the threads!
Tell me the truth.

I'm to young to read.

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#9 Sep 4, 2011
Richard the Cry Baby wrote:
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If it's not Jehovah the it's not Jesus?
Are they the same?
No
Antonio

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#10 Sep 4, 2011
CMWYW wrote:
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No
Jesus means salvation of Jehovah

Antonio

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#11 Sep 4, 2011
Jesus is YHWH.
Even a cihld knows it.

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#12 Sep 4, 2011
Richard the Cry Baby wrote:
Jesus is YHWH.
Even a cihld knows it.
The bible does not ever state that God is part of a Trinity, the only gods that were, were pagan deities, rivals to the creator. The Israelite nation worshiped Jehovah God the creator, they were separated from the other pagan nations and their false gods.

Jesus is Gods son, the king of his kingdom and the Messiah. He could not be God and be a Messiah or a mediator, to whom and for whom would he be mediating. He is the mediator between man and God because he bore our sins so we can come to God in prayer, have a relationship with our creator even though being sinful.

Any other concept is completely out of harmony with the whole bible and who God is , the truth about mankind's fall, and the need for a ransom, the examples of the history of Gods people and the coming Kingdom of God.

All authority was given to Christ by his Father. The head of every man is the Christ but the head of Christ is the Father.(Matt 28:18)

The Encyclopedia of Religion Vol. 15 1987 admits:‘Theologians today are in agreement that the Hebrew Bible does not contain a doctrine of the Trinity.’

The New Catholic Encyclopedia:‘The doctrine of the Holy Trinity is not taught in the Old Testament.’
The Encyclopedia of Religion says:‘Theologians agree that the New Testament also does not contain an explicit doctrine of the Trinity.’

The Encyclopedia Britannica 1976 observes: Neither the word Trinity nor the explicit doctrine appears in the New Testament.’
Protestant theologian Karl Barth (as quoted in The New International Dictionary of New Testament Theology 1976) similarly states:‘The New Testament does not contain the developed doctrine of the Trinity. The Bible lacks the express declaration the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit are of equal essence.’
Antonio

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#13 Sep 4, 2011
Antonio

Bronx, NY

#14 Sep 4, 2011
noahsday wrote:
<quoted text>The bible does not ever state that God is part of a Trinity, the only gods that were, were pagan deities, rivals to the creator. The Israelite nation worshiped Jehovah God the creator, they were separated from the other pagan nations and their false gods.
Jesus is Gods son, the king of his kingdom and the Messiah. He could not be God and be a Messiah or a mediator, to whom and for whom would he be mediating. He is the mediator between man and God because he bore our sins so we can come to God in prayer, have a relationship with our creator even though being sinful.
Any other concept is completely out of harmony with the whole bible and who God is , the truth about mankind's fall, and the need for a ransom, the examples of the history of Gods people and the coming Kingdom of God.
All authority was given to Christ by his Father. The head of every man is the Christ but the head of Christ is the Father.(Matt 28:18)
The Encyclopedia of Religion Vol. 15 1987 admits:‘Theologians today are in agreement that the Hebrew Bible does not contain a doctrine of the Trinity.’
The New Catholic Encyclopedia:‘The doctrine of the Holy Trinity is not taught in the Old Testament.’
The Encyclopedia of Religion says:‘Theologians agree that the New Testament also does not contain an explicit doctrine of the Trinity.’
The Encyclopedia Britannica 1976 observes: Neither the word Trinity nor the explicit doctrine appears in the New Testament.’
Protestant theologian Karl Barth (as quoted in The New International Dictionary of New Testament Theology 1976) similarly states:‘The New Testament does not contain the developed doctrine of the Trinity. The Bible lacks the express declaration the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit are of equal essence.’
True.

They are seperatr but function as one.

Antonio

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#15 Sep 4, 2011
Reality Dispencer wrote:
While inclining to view the pronunciation "Yah.weh" as the more correct way, we have retained the form "Jehovah" because of people's familiarity with it since the 14th century.
Why then did the cult forfeit accuracy to use the word Jehovah, which began to be used in the 14th century?
Their answer is because of people's familiarity with it.
That is another way of saying that they have upheld the traditions of man's inventions at the expense of truth and accuracy, which they knew about.
Sounds like a cult that preaches lies.
According to the Bible, God himself revealed his name to humankind.(Exodus 3:15) Scriptural evidence shows that God’s ancient servants freely used that name.(Genesis 12:8; Ruth 2:4) God’s name was known by other nations as well.(Joshua 2:9) This was especially true after the Jews who had returned from exile in Babylon came into contact with peoples of many nations.(Psalm 96:2-10; Isaiah 12:4; Malachi 1:11) The Interpreter’s Dictionary of the Bible says:“There is considerable evidence that in the postexilic period many foreigners were attracted to the religion of the Jews.” However, by the first century C.E., a superstition about God’s name had developed. Eventually, not only did the Jewish nation stop using God’s name openly but some even forbade pronouncing it at all. Its correct pronunciation was thus lost—or was it?

Parents often named their children after their deities. That means that they would have pronounced their children’s names the way the deity’s name was pronounced. The Tetragrammaton was used in people’s names, and they always used the middle vowel.”

Consider a few examples of proper names found in the Bible that include a shortened form of God’s name. Jonathan, which appears as Yoh na than´ or Yehoh na than in the Hebrew Bible, means “Yaho or Yahowah has given,” says Professor Buchanan. The prophet Elijah’s name is E li yah or E li ya hu in Hebrew. According to Professor Buchanan, the name means:“My God is Yahoo or Yahoo-wah.” Similarly, the Hebrew name for Jehoshaphat is Yehoh-sha phat meaning “Yaho has judged.”

A two-syllable pronunciation of the Tetragrammaton as “Yahweh” would not allow for the o vowel sound to exist as part of God’s name. But in the dozens of Biblical names that incorporate the divine name, this middle vowel sound appears in both the original and the shortened forms, as in Jehonathan and Jonathan. Thus, Professor Buchanan says regarding the divine name:“In no case is the vowel oo or oh omitted. The word was sometimes abbreviated as Ya but never as ‘Ya-weh.’... When the Tetragrammaton was pronounced in one syllable it was Yah or Yo. When it was pronounced in three syllables it would have been Yahowah or Yahoowah If it was ever abbreviated to two syllables it would have been Yaho —Biblical Archaeology Review.(saved post, donated)
dee lightful

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#16 Sep 4, 2011
noahsday wrote:
<quoted text>The bible does not ever state that God is part of a Trinity, the only gods that were, were pagan deities, rivals to the creator. The Israelite nation worshiped Jehovah God the creator, they were separated from the other pagan nations and their false gods.
Jesus is Gods son, the king of his kingdom and the Messiah. He could not be God and be a Messiah or a mediator, to whom and for whom would he be mediating. He is the mediator between man and God because he bore our sins so we can come to God in prayer, have a relationship with our creator even though being sinful.
Any other concept is completely out of harmony with the whole bible and who God is , the truth about mankind's fall, and the need for a ransom, the examples of the history of Gods people and the coming Kingdom of God.
All authority was given to Christ by his Father. The head of every man is the Christ but the head of Christ is the Father.(Matt 28:18)
The Encyclopedia of Religion Vol. 15 1987 admits:‘Theologians today are in agreement that the Hebrew Bible does not contain a doctrine of the Trinity.’
The New Catholic Encyclopedia:‘The doctrine of the Holy Trinity is not taught in the Old Testament.’
The Encyclopedia of Religion says:‘Theologians agree that the New Testament also does not contain an explicit doctrine of the Trinity.’
The Encyclopedia Britannica 1976 observes: Neither the word Trinity nor the explicit doctrine appears in the New Testament.’
Protestant theologian Karl Barth (as quoted in The New International Dictionary of New Testament Theology 1976) similarly states:‘The New Testament does not contain the developed doctrine of the Trinity. The Bible lacks the express declaration the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit are of equal essence.’
Then why did God the Father say Jesus was God.? He called Jesus God several times. Check out these scriptures:
Matthew 1:23 -“Behold, the virgin shall be with child, and bear a Son, and they shall call His name Immanuel,” which is translated,“God with us.”

Isaiah 9:6 - For unto us a Child is born, Unto us a Son is given; And the government will be upon His shoulder. And His name will be called Wonderful, Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.

Isaiah 43:10,11 -“You are My witnesses,” says the Lord,“And My servant whom I have chosen, That you may know and believe Me, and understand that I am He. Before Me there was no God formed, Nor shall there be after Me. I, even I, am the Lord, and besides Me there is no Savior.”

There are dozens of scripture that disprovE what the WTS/GB has said or anyone else. The scriptures speak the truth
To be continued.

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#17 Sep 4, 2011
noahsday wrote:
The New Catholic Encyclopedia:‘The doctrine of the Holy Trinity is not taught in the Old Testament.’
The Encyclopedia of Religion says:‘Theologians agree that the New Testament also does not contain an explicit doctrine of the Trinity.’
The Encyclopedia Britannica 1976 observes: Neither the word Trinity nor the explicit doctrine appears in the New Testament.’
Protestant theologian Karl Barth (as quoted in The New International Dictionary of New Testament Theology 1976) similarly states:‘The New Testament does not contain the developed doctrine of the Trinity. The Bible lacks the express declaration the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit are of equal essence.’
Please tell me why you misquoted these sources? Did you actually read the sources yourself or take someone elses word?

The New Catholic Encyclopedia says: "The word [tri'as](of which the Latin trinitas is a translation) is first found in Theophilus of Antioch about A. D. 180. He speaks of "the Trinity of God [the Father], His Word and His Wisdom" ("Ad. Autol.", 11, 15, P. G., VI, 1078). The term may, of course, have been in use before his time. Shortly afterwards it appears in its Latin form of trinitas in Tertullian."

The Encyclopedia of Religion says: "At first the Christian faith was not Trinitarian in the strictly ontological reference."

The Encyclopedia Britannica says: Trinity, The Trinity represented by Christ as a man, the Holy Spirit as a dove, and God as a hand; Armenian …[Credit: Ara Guler, Istanbul]in Christian doctrine, the unity of Father, Son, and Holy Spirit as three persons in one Godhead. Neither the word Trinity nor the explicit doctrine appears in the New Testament, nor did Jesus and his followers intend to contradict the Shema in the Hebrew Scriptures:“Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God is one Lord”(Deuteronomy 6:4). The earliest Christians, however, had to cope with the implications of the coming of Jesus Christ and of the presumed presence and power of God among them.

Karl Barth said the following regarding the trinity:It is obvious that no difference can be or is made here by the distinction which is made in Holy Scripture itself between Yahweh dwelling on Sinai and Yahweh dwelling in Jerusalem, or in the New Testament the distinction between the Father and the Son, or the distinction manifested in the contrasts between Good Friday, Easter and Pentecost. The man who prays to the Father, who believes in the Son and who is moved by the Holy Ghost is a man whom the one Lord meets and unites to Himself.

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#18 Sep 4, 2011
Jesus represented God, he is in his likeness.

Christ is the only way to God and only through his sacrifice can we possibly have a chance of a relationship with the Father, the Holy spirit God uses for many purposes and as a comforter,(John 14:16,17) Holy spirit helps us to preach and teach, God is generous in giving us his spirit for help in many aspects of our life.(John 14:26; 15:26; 16:13)

And yes when we see the Father we see the Son the LIKENESS as you rightly put, and he is the IMAGE of his heavenly Father Jehovah God, so it is true, a likeness and an image is just that. We are made in God's image does that make me three people, or two.

Something to consider is Revelations 4:9 to 5:13. says that the Lord God ALMIGHTY seated on the throne is just one Person, not three, it states that God Almighty has in his hand a scroll sealed with seven seals. Then the LION (Jesus) that is of the tribe of Judah, the root of David, STEPS FORWARD AND TAKES THE SCROLL OUT OF THE HAND OF THE LORD GOD ALMIGHTY. After that they sing a new song, praising this Lamb, saying " You were slaughtered and with YOUR BLOOD you bought persons for God out of every tribe nation and people, made them to be kings and priests TO OUR GOD, and they will rule as kings over the earth."

So there here to there is a clear distinction made between God Almighty and Jesus the Lamb. And think about it there is no mention of the holy spirit and no praises sung to the holy spirit.

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#19 Sep 4, 2011
Micah 5:2) And as from you O BethLehem, of the house of EphRatha… the few among the thousands of Judah; from out of you will come forth, the one who is Israel’s ruler. His [roots] are from most ancient times, and from the days of the ages.’
John 1:15) John witnessed about him. He’s the one who said it; he yelled it out loud, The one coming behind me has come before me, because he was first, before I was.’
John 5:36-38) I am doing the work that my Father assigned me to finish. These are the things that testify about me [and prove] that the Father sent me. Why, even the Father who sent me has testified about me. You’ve never heard His voice or seen His shape and His words don’t stick with you, because you don’t believe the one who He sent.’
John 6:57) The living Father sent me and I live because of the Father.’
John 8:26) The One who sent me is truthful, and I’m telling the world the things that I heard from Him.’
John 8:29) The One who sent me is with me. He didn’t send me off alone, because I always do things to please Him.’
John 16:27, 28) The Father cares for you, because you cared for me and you believed that I came out [from my position] beside the Father (gr. ego para tou patros exelthon, or, I next/to the Father came out). I am from the Father and I came into the world. I am also leaving the world and returning to the Father.
Rev 3:14) And write this to the messenger of the congregation in Laodicea,‘This is what the Amen says, the faithful and true witness, the earliest creation of God (gr. he arche tes ktisios tou Theou – the beginning of/the creation of/the God).
dee lightful

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#20 Sep 4, 2011
Rev 1:17,18 (King James Version)
17 And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as dead. And he laid his right hand upon me, saying unto me, Fear not; I am the first and the last: 18 I am he that liveth , and was dead; and, behold , I am alive for evermore , Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death.

Revelation 2:8 (King James Version)
8 And unto the angel of the church in Smyrna write ; These things saith the first and the last, which was dead, and is alive

jOHN 1:3(KJV)
3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made .

Colossians 1:16 (KJV)
16 For by him were all things created , that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:

jOHN 1:1 (kjv)
1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

John 5:17,18 (KJV)
17 But Jesus answered them, My Father worketh hitherto , and I work . 18 Therefore the Jews sought the more to kill him, because he not only had broken the sabbath, but said also that God was his Father, making himself equal with God.

john 5:23 (KJV)
23 That all men should honour the Son, even as they honour the Father. He that honoureth not the Son honoureth not the Father which hath sent him.

John 8:24 (KJV)
24 I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins.

John 8:58 (KJV)
58 JESUS SAID UNTO THEM, VERILY, VERILY, I SAY UNTO YOU, BEFORE ABRAHAM WAS, I AM .( emphases mine)

Here is another very clear statement:
Revelation 1:8
English Standard Version (©2001)
“I am the Alpha and the Omega,” says the Lord God,“who is and who was and who is to come, the Almighty.”
Who is it that is coming?

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