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“Play up Pompey”

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Feb 5, 2013
 
It's very close to becoming law in the UK. Married gays will have identical rights to their hetero counterparts.

I'm not sure how I feel about it.

On the one hand I'm all for people being able to make choices over their sexuality. On the other, I sense a primal instinct wanting to preserve marriage exclusively for the man and woman arrangement.

I shall muse on this.

Maybe even receive some enlightenment?

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Mikronboy wrote:
It's very close to becoming law in the UK. Married gays will have identical rights to their hetero counterparts.
I'm not sure how I feel about it.
On the one hand I'm all for people being able to make choices over their sexuality. On the other, I sense a primal instinct wanting to preserve marriage exclusively for the man and woman arrangement.
I shall muse on this.
Maybe even receive some enlightenment?
The way I look at it is, as soon as you had to purchase a license from the government in order to get married, then marriage became more subject to the laws of the land then to the law of the Bible.
However; since I am not gay, I really could care less if they are given the same marriage rights under mans law.
I am thinking that, at least under Gods law, it is still null and void.
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Gods Law on homosexuality is known and is written..

God is our Law giver , not any man.

Psalm 119 [126]
It is time for Jehovah to act they have broken your Law.
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little lamb wrote:
Gods Law on homosexuality is known and is written..
God is our Law giver , not any man.
Psalm 119 [126]
It is time for Jehovah to act they have broken your Law.
Do you believe that the breaking of this particular law is what is going to get Jehovah's attention and cause him to act?
Do you think jehovah will act in our lifetime?
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florida native wrote:
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The way I look at it is, as soon as you had to purchase a license from the government in order to get married, then marriage became more subject to the laws of the land then to the law of the Bible.
However; since I am not gay, I really could care less if they are given the same marriage rights under mans law.
I am thinking that, at least under Gods law, it is still null and void.
Everyone should have same civil rights in this country.(Jehovah will eventually sort everything out)

But, not marriage.

Man has thorougly muddied the waters with this. This sacred insitituion is being made into a mockery.

Lines are seriously getting blurred. This is all part of Satan and the demons plan to further disintegrate our society as we get closer to the end. The whole "im going to do my thing" spirit of the world.

Jehovah did NOT have this in mind. Not evan in the slightest.
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little lamb wrote:
Gods Law on homosexuality is known and is written..
God is our Law giver , not any man.
Psalm 119 [126]
It is time for Jehovah to act they have broken your Law.
I agree.
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florida native wrote:
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The way I look at it is, as soon as you had to purchase a license from the government in order to get married, then marriage became more subject to the laws of the land then to the law of the Bible.
However; since I am not gay, I really could care less if they are given the same marriage rights under mans law.
I am thinking that, at least under Gods law, it is still null and void.
Obama will be on this one.

He gave a not so subtle hint in his inaugural address.

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Surprisingly.. Gun control is shaping up to be a "dead in the water" issue.(At least for this president). That was fast.

But, some kind of immigration reform and the gays right to marry looks like it's a go.

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Mikronboy wrote:
It's very close to becoming law in the UK. Married gays will have identical rights to their hetero counterparts.
I'm not sure how I feel about it.
On the one hand I'm all for people being able to make choices over their sexuality. On the other, I sense a primal instinct wanting to preserve marriage exclusively for the man and woman arrangement.
I shall muse on this.
Maybe even receive some enlightenment?
Here is the thing for me. If what someone is doing is not hurting other people, then if we here and you over the pond, are truly a free country with equal rights then it's not anyone else's business to dictate what others can and cannot do.
If you are religious then God will sort it our right?
Yet one should not force others to believe as they do. There is already too much of that going on.
All should be able to enjoy their own freedoms outside of harming others.
I personally feel it's a bit unnatural since you can't reproduce with the reproductive organs..... well you get it.
But it's not up to me to decide how someone else lives their life.
I should not and no one else should be forcing their beliefs or moral code on anyone else. That is left to religion. The government should be no part of that.

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Here is the thing for me. If what someone is doing is not hurting other people, then if we here and you over the pond, are truly a free country with equal rights then it's not anyone else's business to dictate what others can and cannot do.
If you are religious then God will sort it our right?
Yet one should not force others to believe as they do. There is already too much of that going on.
All should be able to enjoy their own freedoms outside of harming others.
I personally feel it's a bit unnatural since you can't reproduce with the reproductive organs..... well you get it.
But it's not up to me to decide how someone else lives their life.
I should not and no one else should be forcing their beliefs or moral code on anyone else. That is left to religion. The government should be no part of that.
As I say, I feel strange - almost ambivalent - about this. UK has a monarch. The monarch is head of the Church of England. For the goverment (who govern in the name of the monarch) to rescind the original marriage contract implies that the COE is also in favour.

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Mikronboy wrote:
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As I say, I feel strange - almost ambivalent - about this. UK has a monarch. The monarch is head of the Church of England. For the goverment (who govern in the name of the monarch) to rescind the original marriage contract implies that the COE is also in favour.
You have a lot of things going on. It will be interesting to see what happens.
We don't have the COE, so not the interest this will bring.
Wondering will the Monarch say no no?
Unfortunately I am not up on GB goings on, but are there other things that the government has approved or disapproved of that the Queen disagreed with? Has the govt. in essence ever gone against the monarchy without ruffling feathers?
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They are still people, they just think different about sex. I'd never roll a fat girl so should I also think fat girls shouldn't get some loving or get married? Us hetro's have made a joke out of marriage anyway.

I never understood people that try to take away the freedoms of people they don't even know. How will letting gays get married effect anyone? Let them go gay it up, doesn't bother me, thats just more women for the rest of us.
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Scripturally it's wrong and morally its wrong, no one cares though and the bill will pass through and life will go on. Gays will have the same rights even though it's disgusting. Where has the world gone to?
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Feb 5, 2013
 
Mikronboy wrote:
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As I say, I feel strange - almost ambivalent - about this. UK has a monarch. The monarch is head of the Church of England. For the goverment (who govern in the name of the monarch) to rescind the original marriage contract implies that the COE is also in favour.
You made some interesting points here.

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Scripturally it's wrong and morally its wrong, no one cares though and the bill will pass through and life will go on. Gays will have the same rights even though it's disgusting. Where has the world gone to?
It may be wrong scripturally, but you can't really impose your morals on someone else, as that is a more personal thing. Religion is as well. I only have a substantial conflict when someone says they practice the bible and are practicing gays as well. It seems a huge conflict.
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MixedMedia wrote:
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It may be wrong scripturally, but you can't really impose your morals on someone else, as that is a more personal thing. Religion is as well. I only have a substantial conflict when someone says they practice the bible and are practicing gays as well. It seems a huge conflict.
The government impose there's on ours and we have to go along with it. I expressed my opinion which I'm entitled to do. People nowadays don't want to offend but without morals we are nothing.
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Well, the house of Commons passed it.

Prime Minister Cameron really bucked his own party on this one.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/06/world/europ...

This doesn't bode well for this country.

This world is really going to pot. And fast.
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People...This is why it is going to be easy when the world powers turn against Babylon.

Just like that. Simple and quick as a blink of the eye.

Satan is the ruler of this world and he has a stranglehold on most everything.

Ever see how easy it is to stir and whip up a crowd at a big event like a game, concert, parade and the like???

That is how easy it will be when the the athiest govts turn against Babylon.

Even the Muslim nations that APPEAR to be religious.

It will be stunning time in world history.
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To clarify. Jehovah will be behind the govts turning Babylon.

However, the world will simply show their true athiest leanings when that time happens.

Jehovah who judges her is srtong.(Revelation 18:8)

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Feb 5, 2013
 
TPMP wrote:
Well, the house of Commons passed it.
Prime Minister Cameron really bucked his own party on this one.
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/06/world/europ...
This doesn't bode well for this country.
This world is really going to pot. And fast.
Bad move IMHO. I wonder if Cameron isn't being prodded along in this. Maybe he sees himself as a sort of John the Baptist figure clearing the way for America to follow?
None of this rings true. His party made no mention of this in their pre-election manifesto.
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Do you believe that the breaking of this particular law is what is going to get Jehovah's attention and cause him to act?
Do you think jehovah will act in our lifetime?
He already is...Nahum 1 [3] Jehovah is slow to anger and great in power , and by no means will Jehovah hold back from punishing .

In destructive wind and in storm is his way , and the cloud mass is the powder of his feet ...

[5] mountains have rocked because of him and the very hills found themselves melting

And the earth will be upheaved because of his face , the productive land also and those dwelling in it."

[6] in the face of his denunciation who can stand ? and who can raise up against his anger.?

His own rage will certainly be poured out like fire, and the rocks will be pulled down because of him."

Just this summer in Australia we have hundreds not one or two like previous years , hundreds...of bush fires destroying the homes of many many people..and all their lives work gone up in smoke..and now Queensland and parts of NSW are having residents lose their possessions in floods...

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