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Since: Feb 13

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#1 Feb 20, 2013
Jehovah made the biggest flip-flop in history, when He allowed Gentiles into the spiritual family....Before, only Jews were selected......at Pentecost 33 CE, Gentiles were admitted into the Christian fold, beginning with Cornilious, a Gentile, a Roman soldier, leader..........Jehovah's Witnesses also have made new directions at certain times, as we gleen understanding from Jehovah's word..........As imperfect people, we try to understand the scriptures at Jehovah's direction.........Did you know that we once thought the earth was flat?...That the TWIN TOWERS would never fall as they did??.....New understanding comes to us imperfect people at certain times..........Jehovah's Witnesses seek the truth, regardless where it might take us..........We serve Jehovah, His way, His selected way, ONE WAY.....We don't compromise.....We are not like other religions who bend and bend some more and more again.

Since: Mar 09

United States

#2 Feb 20, 2013
I call it progress. We are not a static religion, nor passive. We make change as needed, and continue to progress, and be active, and will do so, right on until the end of this system that exists.
TellTheTruth

Homewood, IL

#3 Feb 20, 2013
Will the men of Sodom be resurrected? The Society has answered 'yes'(Wt. July 1879, p. 8),'no'(Wt. June 1, 1952, p. 338),'yes'(Wt. Aug. 1, 1965, p. 479),'no'(Wt. June 1, 1988, p. 31),'yes'(1988 book Insight on the Scriptures, p. 985),'no'(1988 book Revelation: Its Grand Climax At Hand!, p. 273). In fact, as pointed out in Our Kingdom Ministry (December, 1989, p. 7) early printings of the book You Can Live Forever in Paradise on Earth say 'yes' but later printings of the same book say 'no.'(pp. 178-179)
TellTheTruth

Homewood, IL

#4 Feb 20, 2013
Aware of the devastating effect such information can have on its followers' faith in the organization, the Watchtower Society either tries to cover up the facts or to deny that the changes constitute a return to a previous point of view:

At times explanations given by Jehovah's visible organization have shown adjustments, seemingly to previous points of view. But this has not actually been the case. This might be compared to what is known in navigational circles as "tacking." By maneuvering the sails the sailors can cause a ship to go from right to left, back and forth, but all the time making progress toward their destination...-- The Watchtower December 1, 1981, page 27
TellTheTruth

Homewood, IL

#5 Feb 20, 2013
A close examination reveals many of the flip-flops to be total reversals, not any sort of forward-moving tacking process. Why this uncertain vacillation on doctrine, affirming "truths" today, denying them as "errors" tomorrow, and returning to the discarded teachings the next day for recycling as "new truths" once again?
TellTheTruth

Homewood, IL

#6 Feb 20, 2013
Prior to 1975 it taught that each Jehovah's Witness is a minister. Then, in 1975, it reversed this and began teaching that most members are not ministers, even changing the monthly Kingdom Ministry's name to Our Kingdom Service; then in 1981 it returned to the old teaching and again renamed the publication Our Kingdom Ministry.

The 1972 Organization book instructed that "none in the congregation should greet" disfellowshipped persons.(p. 172) Then the August 1, 1974, Watchtower reversed this by teaching that "Jesus' own example protects us against adopting the extreme view" of refusing to speak to them.(pp. 464-465) Then the September 15, 1981, Watchtower returned to the previous point of view.(pp. 24-26)
TellTheTruth

Homewood, IL

#7 Feb 20, 2013
Originally the Watchtower Society taught that the "superior authorities" or "higher powers" of Romans 13:1 are the secular governments, but in 1929 this was rejected as a 'false doctrine.'(Jehovah's Witnesses in the Divine Purpose, p. 91) The new teaching was that the "higher powers" are God and Christ. But decades later the old teaching was adopted again, so that J.W.'s now say Romans 13:1 refers to the secular governments.(The Watchtower, May 15, 1980, p. 4)
bennie

Torrance, CA

#8 Feb 20, 2013
Messanger wrote:
Jehovah made the biggest flip-flop in history, when He allowed Gentiles into the spiritual family....Before, only Jews were selected......at Pentecost 33 CE, Gentiles were admitted into the Christian fold, beginning with Cornilious, a Gentile, a Roman soldier, leader..........Jehovah's Witnesses also have made new directions at certain times, as we gleen understanding from Jehovah's word..........As imperfect people, we try to understand the scriptures at Jehovah's direction.........Did you know that we once thought the earth was flat?...That the TWIN TOWERS would never fall as they did??.....New understanding comes to us imperfect people at certain times..........Jehovah's Witnesses seek the truth, regardless where it might take us..........We serve Jehovah, His way, His selected way, ONE WAY.....We don't compromise.....We are not like other religions who bend and bend some more and more again.
So how do you explain why 144,000 annointed JWs need to (help Jesus in heaven) rule over "paradise earth" in the new system free from sin and want?

Will the "other sheep" still be capable of sin in the new system necessating a need to be ruled?
TellTheTruth

Homewood, IL

#9 Feb 20, 2013


Blood transfusions are viewed in a favorable light by the Watchtower 1940
Consolation 1940 December p19

Blood transfusions are officially banned in 1945
The Watchtower 7th January 1945 p201

The Watchtower bans the use of blood fractions
Awake! 8th January 1954, p24
Awake! 8th September 1956 p20

Flip Flop, The Watchtower allows blood fractions in 1958
The Watchtower 15 September 1958 p575



Flip Flop, Flip Flop, The Watchtower changes its mind again and blood fractions are banned in 1961
The Watchtower 15 September 1961 p 558



Flip Flop, Flip Flop, Flip Flop, The Watchtower changes its mind again and blood fractions are allowed in 1964
The Watchtower 15 November 1964 p680/3

Awake! 22nd August 1965 p18
The Watchtower 1 June 1974 p 351/2



Flip Flop, Flip Flop, Flip Flop, Flip Flop The Watchtower changes its mind yet again and blood fractions are not allowed in 1975
Awake! 22nd February 1975 p30
The Watchtower 15th June 1978 29/31



Storing Blood outside the body is wrong
The Watchtower 15 October 1959, p640
Blood, Medicine and the Law of God, 1961, pp. 14, 15



Hemodilution is wrong 1972
Awake! 5 April 1972 p29/30



Hemodilution is OK 1983
Awake! 22 March 1983 p.16



Parents indoctrinated using scare tactics
Blood, Medicine and the Law of God, 1961, p. 5
Jehovah's witnesses... know that if they violate God's law on blood and the child dies in the process, they have endangered that child's opportunity for everlasting life in God's new world.
dee lightful

Easley, SC

#10 Feb 20, 2013
Nomi wrote:
I call it progress. We are not a static religion, nor passive. We make change as needed, and continue to progress, and be active, and will do so, right on until the end of this system that exists.
Yhe point Nomi is that those doctrines had to believe came from God when they did not. That is not progressive that is a sin to say it was from God nd had to be believed on pain of disf and shunning and only to find out it was a lie of men and nothing to do with God.
You do not have a religion at all for you only have a publishing company masquerading as God, and Jesus as necessary for salvation which is blasphemy.

Since: Feb 13

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#11 Feb 20, 2013
bennie wrote:
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So how do you explain why 144,000 annointed JWs need to (help Jesus in heaven) rule over "paradise earth" in the new system free from sin and want?
Will the "other sheep" still be capable of sin in the new system necessating a need to be ruled?
All in perfection.

Since: Feb 13

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#12 Feb 20, 2013
TellTheTruth wrote:
Blood transfusions are viewed in a favorable light by the Watchtower 1940
Consolation 1940 December p19
Blood transfusions are officially banned in 1945
The Watchtower 7th January 1945 p201
The Watchtower bans the use of blood fractions
Awake! 8th January 1954, p24
Awake! 8th September 1956 p20
Flip Flop, The Watchtower allows blood fractions in 1958
The Watchtower 15 September 1958 p575
Flip Flop, Flip Flop, The Watchtower changes its mind again and blood fractions are banned in 1961
The Watchtower 15 September 1961 p 558
Flip Flop, Flip Flop, Flip Flop, The Watchtower changes its mind again and blood fractions are allowed in 1964
The Watchtower 15 November 1964 p680/3
Awake! 22nd August 1965 p18
The Watchtower 1 June 1974 p 351/2
Flip Flop, Flip Flop, Flip Flop, Flip Flop The Watchtower changes its mind yet again and blood fractions are not allowed in 1975
Awake! 22nd February 1975 p30
The Watchtower 15th June 1978 29/31
Storing Blood outside the body is wrong
The Watchtower 15 October 1959, p640
Blood, Medicine and the Law of God, 1961, pp. 14, 15
Hemodilution is wrong 1972
Awake! 5 April 1972 p29/30
Hemodilution is OK 1983
Awake! 22 March 1983 p.16
Parents indoctrinated using scare tactics
Blood, Medicine and the Law of God, 1961, p. 5
Jehovah's witnesses... know that if they violate God's law on blood and the child dies in the process, they have endangered that child's opportunity for everlasting life in God's new world.
You are a fool of great consequence, I know that you can't help your ignorance, forgive me..........Did you know that we thought our solar system consisted of 9 planets?????????.YEA, and then we learned hundreds more are in our universe..........Did you know that we smoked cigarettes thinking that they were healthy for us??????....Yeah, they kill us..........Did you know that Germany 1933 was the pride of all nations, riveting order and strength???????...Yea...they went down in flames in 1945...CHECK IT OUT..........Of course we change direction AS..SSHOLE....It's called education.......are you living in an outhouse from 1953??????????AS..SSHOLE....of major proportions.........Guess what??....America is in debt, Iran is still here as well as Israel....China is a world power..........ask me...I will answer your infantile questions of ignorance..........PS.....star t reading new magazines, books, dvd's, tv shows, anything new would help your piss dead brain.

Since: Feb 13

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#13 Feb 20, 2013
TellTheTruth wrote:
Prior to 1975 it taught that each Jehovah's Witness is a minister. Then, in 1975, it reversed this and began teaching that most members are not ministers, even changing the monthly Kingdom Ministry's name to Our Kingdom Service; then in 1981 it returned to the old teaching and again renamed the publication Our Kingdom Ministry.
The 1972 Organization book instructed that "none in the congregation should greet" disfellowshipped persons.(p. 172) Then the August 1, 1974, Watchtower reversed this by teaching that "Jesus' own example protects us against adopting the extreme view" of refusing to speak to them.(pp. 464-465) Then the September 15, 1981, Watchtower returned to the previous point of view.(pp. 24-26)
You are an old dfed FK........you have literally no idea of all the changes we have made.......you have been spiritually dead for decades....Try to enjoy what little time you have left fool....We, WE..will always win....You have not found your happiness yet have you????......Why do you linger here, if you have found the road, paved to happiness fool???

Since: Feb 13

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#14 Feb 20, 2013
TellTheTruth wrote:
Blood transfusions are viewed in a favorable light by the Watchtower 1940
Consolation 1940 December p19
Blood transfusions are officially banned in 1945
The Watchtower 7th January 1945 p201
The Watchtower bans the use of blood fractions
Awake! 8th January 1954, p24
Awake! 8th September 1956 p20
Flip Flop, The Watchtower allows blood fractions in 1958
The Watchtower 15 September 1958 p575
Flip Flop, Flip Flop, The Watchtower changes its mind again and blood fractions are banned in 1961
The Watchtower 15 September 1961 p 558
Flip Flop, Flip Flop, Flip Flop, The Watchtower changes its mind again and blood fractions are allowed in 1964
The Watchtower 15 November 1964 p680/3
Awake! 22nd August 1965 p18
The Watchtower 1 June 1974 p 351/2
Flip Flop, Flip Flop, Flip Flop, Flip Flop The Watchtower changes its mind yet again and blood fractions are not allowed in 1975
Awake! 22nd February 1975 p30
The Watchtower 15th June 1978 29/31
Storing Blood outside the body is wrong
The Watchtower 15 October 1959, p640
Blood, Medicine and the Law of God, 1961, pp. 14, 15
Hemodilution is wrong 1972
Awake! 5 April 1972 p29/30
Hemodilution is OK 1983
Awake! 22 March 1983 p.16
Parents indoctrinated using scare tactics
Blood, Medicine and the Law of God, 1961, p. 5
Jehovah's witnesses... know that if they violate God's law on blood and the child dies in the process, they have endangered that child's opportunity for everlasting life in God's new world.
Smoking was safe for most of the 20th century..........guess what??...we learned...educated........sex without a condom can even kill!!........We learned that too...Old man...live your stinky life...at least what is left......

Since: Jan 13

Marlinton, WV

#15 Feb 20, 2013
Mess wrote:
We don't compromise.....We are not like other religions who bend and bend some more and more again.

What do you call the UN NGO fiasco? YOu taught the UN was the eighth Beast. The WT compromised and road the back of the beast. What do you call the bribery sysytem in Mexico approved by the WT to avoid military service? A Compromise. The GB will only bend and compromise if it benefits their coffers and control. The Wt used to make light of the Vatican's proposing that the Pope was God's representative on earth. The GB thinks that is their spot as GOd's spokesman and prophet. What a load of mularkey.
Lol

Hayward, CA

#16 Feb 20, 2013
Messanger wrote:
<quoted text>
You are a fool of great consequence, I know that you can't help your ignorance, forgive me..........Did you know that we thought our solar system consisted of 9 planets?????????.YEA, and then we learned hundreds more are in our universe..........Did you know that we smoked cigarettes thinking that they were healthy for us??????....Yeah, they kill us..........Did you know that Germany 1933 was the pride of all nations, riveting order and strength???????...Yea...they went down in flames in 1945...CHECK IT OUT..........Of course we change direction AS..SSHOLE....It's called education.......are you living in an outhouse from 1953??????????AS..SSHOLE....of major proportions.........Guess what??....America is in debt, Iran is still here as well as Israel....China is a world power..........ask me...I will answer your infantile questions of ignorance..........PS.....star t reading new magazines, books, dvd's, tv shows, anything new would help your piss dead brain.
The problem with your argument,(aside from the profanity and insults) is that none of your examples are purportedly "food" from the Almighty God.

The teachings from the JW's are, according to them, food given at the proper time. God does not lie, and he does not make mistakes. Men do.
Gotyou

United States

#17 Feb 21, 2013
Nomi wrote:
I call it progress. We are not a static religion, nor passive. We mIake change as needed, and continue to progress, and be active, and will do so, right on until the end of this system that exists.
Feel good as much as you want by using the denial technique but you and I know that the leaders of the WTS are more stupid than a door knob. Only idiots stay in the Watchtower.

“Family comes First”

Since: May 11

Weston super Mare

#18 Feb 21, 2013
The main problem JW's have is to do with their FDS doctrine and it's associated inferences.

If you're Jehovah's OrganiZation you can never, ever admit to being wrong about anything 'cos if you are ever wrong you sure ain't got a private pipeline to Jehovah like wot you and others think you have!

(Bad English intentional)
Gotyou

United States

#19 Feb 21, 2013
Messanger wrote:
<quoted text>
You are a fool of great consequence, I know that you can't help your ignorance, forgive me..........Did you know that we thought our solar system consisted of 9 planets?????????.YEA, and then we learned hundreds more are in our universe..........Did you know that we smoked cigarettes thinking that they were healthy for us??????....Yeah, they kill us..........Did you know that Germany 1933 was the pride of all nations, riveting order and strength???????...Yea...they went down in flames in 1945...CHECK IT OUT..........Of course we change direction AS..SSHOLE....It's called education.......are you living in an outhouse from 1953??????????AS..SSHOLE....of major proportions.........Guess what??....America is in debt, Iran is still here as well as Israel....China is a world power..........ask me...I will answer your infantile questions of ignorance..........PS.....star t reading new magazines, books, dvd's, tv shows, anything new would help your piss dead brain.
It is worse when you are a fool and you don't even know it. Yes at one time people think the earth was flat but those people did not say they got information from God. The difference is: those idiots from Brooklyn claimed that they received prophecies straight from God when they predicted that Abraham was supposed to be resurrected back at Beth Sarim in California. Only idiots like you stay in the Watchtower.
Gotyou

United States

#20 Feb 21, 2013
Messanger wrote:
<quoted text>
You are an old dfed FK........you have literally no idea of all the changes we have made.......you have been spiritually dead for decades....Try to enjoy what little time you have left fool....We, WE..will always win....You have not found your happiness yet have you????......Why do you linger here, if you have found the road, paved to happiness fool???
yes Mr. Fool, we are aware of all the WTS stupid prophecies. Only idiots stay in the WaWatchtower. Come at me with all foul language and I will be ready for you. Only idiots lke you stay in the Watchtower.

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