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Young Corpus Christi believer to be baptized at convention

There are 72 comments on the Corpus Christi Caller-Times story from Jun 22, 2012, titled Young Corpus Christi believer to be baptized at convention. In it, Corpus Christi Caller-Times reports that:

TODD YATES/CALLER-TIMES Jaedon Canales, 12, will be among the Coastal Bend residents who will be attend this weekend's annual "Safeguard Your Heart" District Jehovah's Witness Convention at the American Bank Center.

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Since: Jul 10

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#1 Jun 22, 2012
When did they change their minds and start baptizing children??? Last week it was a 9 year old.. are they that desparated for higher numbers.???
QUITTNER

Toronto, Canada

#2 Jun 22, 2012
3:50 pm, Friday, June 22, 2012:
RE: Young Corpus Christi believer to be baptized at convention
..... At nearly the end of the requirements that applicants for joining one of the churches of the Kingdom of God had to undergo came baptism by full immersion, giving God the opportunity to drown the applicant if in his heart he didn't intend to keep the vows/promises he had made, including to keep all laws from now on. If baptism was successful, then it was believed that God had forgiven the applicant all his past lawbreakings (=sins), and that God had "wiped the slate clean", equivalent to modern wiping out/erasing all previous convictions, making the applicant to be then sinless, and to be a "born again child" member of the particular church of the Kingdom of God that the applicant wanted to join.
samMYdog

Philadelphia, PA

#3 Jun 22, 2012
Maravilla wrote:
When did they change their minds and start baptizing children??? Last week it was a 9 year old.. are they that desparated for higher numbers.???
Sam>>
Just look at Christendom they baptize them when they are just days old how desperate is that?

Since: Jul 10

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#4 Jun 22, 2012
samMYdog wrote:
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Sam>>
Just look at Christendom they baptize them when they are just days old how desperate is that?
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. Yes! I know..the WTS..has played the card over and over. Yet.. inspite of it..they now baptize children .
TPMP

Riverhead, NY

#5 Jun 22, 2012
So, what?

What is your issue with that?.

There have always been individuals who have opted to get baptized young.

You know this.

I personally don't think young ones should get baptized (16 and under)... However, if they grow up in the truth they shouldn't wait too long either.

Just my opinion.

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It has to be a "balanced" decision for one who is ready.

“Houston, TX”

Since: Jun 12

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#6 Jun 22, 2012
There are many young ones who should get baptized if they grow up in the truth. The shouldn't wait too long.

It's always a balanced decision for those who are ready. Jehovah knows when it's time.

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#7 Jun 22, 2012
TPMP wrote:
So, what?
What is your issue with that?.
There have always been individuals who have opted to get baptized young.
You know this.
I personally don't think young ones should get baptized (16 and under)... However, if they grow up in the truth they shouldn't wait too long either.
Just my opinion.
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It has to be a "balanced" decision for one who is ready.
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Listening to the WTS.. over the years ..blithering about churches baptizing babies... And now ..they do it..
Self Righteous

Houston, TX

#8 Jun 22, 2012
This is PRIME sockpuppeting me....Childish, I know....

< http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/jehovahs-... ;

Then, of course, it could be Dan as well....Either way, it is sad.
Self Righteous

Houston, TX

#9 Jun 22, 2012
Maravilla wrote:
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Listening to the WTS.. over the years ..blithering about churches baptizing babies... And now ..they do it..
Wonder are you re-defining what a child is to fit your agenda?
Self Righteous

Houston, TX

#10 Jun 22, 2012
Correction:

Are you re-defining what a "baby" is to fit your agenda?

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#11 Jun 22, 2012
Self Righteous wrote:
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Wonder are you re-defining what a child is to fit your agenda?
Redefining..??? Nope.. Having been the mother of 4 and an observer of many.. No matter how good a student a child is.. They are not.. by any means ready to step out and take responsibility for their actions.. OR make a decision of that type for them selves.. Would you allow your 9 year old to marry.. If not.. Why not.???

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#12 Jun 22, 2012
Self Righteous wrote:
There are many young ones who should get baptized if they grow up in the truth. The shouldn't wait too long.
It's always a balanced decision for those who are ready. Jehovah knows when it's time.
. Define growing up in the truth... Is it like.. being pickled in the beliefs of the church.??? Have you observered that a good many of those ( Children) are hardly reconizable when seen away from the KH.. Those sweet little guys ..in their Madison Ave..suit and ties.. looking all spiffy and so grown up.. Yet the fasade comes off the minute their on their way home... Granted there are a few that are perfect little angels under their mothers heavy thumb.. And yet .. what happens when their finally old enough to cut the strings... Have you observed that.??? I have..
I to was raised in the truth.. And yet behind closed doors.. Honey.. I could write a book.. With glossy pictures of the abuse I went through.. Complete with Dr. reports.. OF the damage several years down road.. The words raised in the truth .. are lip service.. Sounds good.. but isn't always what it's cracked up to be..
Self Righteous

Houston, TX

#13 Jun 22, 2012
Do you consider 9 and 12 year old babies Wonder?

"Listening to the WTS.. over the years ..blithering about churches baptizing babies. And now ..they do it.."
jace

Woodbridge, VA

#14 Jun 22, 2012
baptized at 9, smoking behind the school with classmates at 11, DFed and now 45 yrs old and this youthful act is still being held against him- his family will not speak to him

kids are not allowed to sign contracts until legal age- yet children enter contracts with WT rules and have no idea what they are doing and the long term ramifications

so sad
Disciple

United States

#15 Jun 22, 2012
The people who get baptized into the organization are never taught anything about who are justified as righteous in the eyes of God. Nor are they given any 'biblical education as to who are sanctified, or why. They are also programmed to studiously 'avoid' who belong to Jesus ant the Father. The same can be said about who are sons of God?

It all goes back to who are sanctified,('cleansed'). Who are justified as righteous in the eyes of God? you can't afford to use the NWT because of it's insertion of words in different key passages that change the meaning of the passaes.

The WT plays the Pied Pipers flute whenever it 'very briefly' tip toes over these two subjects. It uses lots of non biblical terms ,words,and phrases, when telling you who are sanctified. It does the same when explaining who are justified as righteous. Then 'out pops a disTOrteD, Gnostic form that in our modern day, is called 'dogma.'

Christian>> “2 Baptisms?” Who teaches that there are two baptisms for the believer??

JW> The Watchtower organization teaches 'two' types of baptisms. 1/2% of its followers are baptized INTO Jesus Christ. These few are then told only they, are IN Christ, and these alone are therefore SANCTIFIED. These, and 'only' these, are allowed to say that they BELONG to Jesus. These few are then taught that only ‘they’ are considered sons of God in the eyes of Jehovah and not each believer in the congregation.

JW: Sir, just ask our 1/2% errs what their baptism represented,(what it means to them)… what it symbolized to the WT organization and they will answer: "I was baptized into Christ."
Christian: Well what does the other type of Watchtower baptism represent?"

JW: Sir just ask the other 991/2% of Jehovah Witness what their baptism represented, and they will 'all' tell you, "My baptism represented,(what it means to them)
"a dedication to Jehovah."
Christian: "Excuse me.” What did you just say about what the majority, of WT baptism represents?" "What did/does it signify/symbolize?"

JW: Well I do not partake of the Lord’s Supper because I am taught that I am not justified, sanctified, nor IN Christ, nor am I a son of God. My baptism was only a “dedication to Jehovah."
Christian: Are you saying you were not baptized into Christ?"

JW: Yes that's right." You see, the bible teaches that I do not belong to Jesus Christ, nor does anyone in my family."
Disciple

United States

#16 Jun 22, 2012
JW>> I/We are not part of the body of Christ. We are taught that Only 144000 people are in the body of Christ. We are taught that we can’t partake of the Lord’s Supper because we,(over 991/2% of us) are not sanctified. Only 144000 are cleansed. We are also not justified as righteous,(right with God'). So you see, If I belonged to Jesus Christ, I would be qualified to partake at the Communion of the Lord's Supper." But you see, I am not IN ('union with') Jesus Christ because I was taught that I was not 'baptized into Jesus Christ.' If I were, I would be able to partake at the Communion do the Lord Supper." I can not partake of the Lord's Supper because I have been taught that I am also not a son of God. Jn. 1:12, is not saying a person is promised son ship in the eyes of Jehovah 'now.'

In other words, sir, Jesus Christ is not my Mediator." You see sir this subject is taught right here in our book we are placing with our neighbors for a small donation.

Christian:(???) So you are one of those,‘who the Watchtower once called a ‘Jonadab?’...

JW:'Jonadab, what's a Jonadab??

Christian: Its right hear. Read for your self...
“The Jonadabs are not even justified, because the receiving of life everlasting depends upon their obedience within God’s organization and faithfully abiding there until the wrath of God is passed at Armageddon.” April 1, 1938 p. 104 WT

JW:“Uh I have never searched any of their older publications yet.‘I have 'never' read that!’

Christian:. My ex-JW friend gave me this to read. That was what made him leave. He said it is almost a ‘secret doctrine they teach. He said it’s very hard to find when it really shouldn’t be. I copied this from one of your books.“Is this ‘still what they teach?” It's one of the reasons they say you are not qualified to partake. Is it true you 99% of you are ‘still’ not yet justified as righteous, in the eyes of God?...Are you still not at peace with Jehovah,(Romans 5:1,9)? Have you not been shown Romans 10:4, or Romans 3:20-28?

Christian> In their book,“Life Everlasting In The Sons of God,” 1966. p. 391, that the Great Crowd,(99.991/2% of you) don’t receive justification promised in the N. T. The Great Crowd will not be justified or declared righteous either now nor then as the 144000 heavenly heirs have been justified while in the flesh”
JW>> "I have never seen that before?" Wow!
Disciple

United States

#17 Jun 22, 2012
The Apostle Paul taught that each person who put/s their faith in Jesus Christ are justified as righteous.('Right with God'). Their sins had/have been 'washed away- 1 John 1:9.'

We all died to our old sinful lifestyles. We no longer desire to be led by the flesh,( our old fleshly life styles). He died for all, not just 144000,'who are actually believing Jews that God will be using during the Great Teribulation.

When Christians are baptized, they are showing outwardly, what has 'already' taken place inwardly as they go under the water. They symbolically died (with Jesus) under water. He died for 'all,' therefore we all died,(1 Corinthians 5:"14,15. They are now as if 'Ambassodores for Christ"-220,21.

Sadly it seems 99.% of JW only came away with a bath. They truly didn't repent...'Christians are the righteousness of God through Christ.

He is the Mediator for all,1 Timothy 2:5. He sanctified all, Hebrews 7:27. His blood cleansed all,.. Heb. 10:10,'all', not some, as the TwIsTEd NWT has it). The congregation as a whole-1 Cor. 10:1-4,'all, 16, all, Exodus 12:47!

Everything that truly repented and put faith in what justified them- Romans 5:9, Romans 8:1, 1 Cor. 13:5).
Disciple

United States

#18 Jun 22, 2012
Don't forget now, Hebrews 7:27 does not have the word "time" in it. In the 'Greek," you will find the word 'all.'('All were sanctified not just the high priest.) The NWT bible had the word,'time,' inserted in to it where it's not found in the Greek. "Strong's concordance couldn't find it in the Greek neither. Hebrews . 10:10 ends with the Greek word,'all.' Verse 14 goes on to say for all 'time.' 1 John 1:9 verifies all this.

”“In this strict biblical sense, Jesus Christ is the mediator for only 144000 people.” 1979 4/1/P31,WT


Their silence on Justification. and the study of sanctification clearly shows their guilt. Their silence is their shame. If 2057 would stop 'pasting' his WT 'fluff' long enough to begin understanding his Bible,he might start putting some 'biblical words and 'biblical' phrases,he wouldn't have to paste WT 'fluff.'

Using non biblical words and non biblical phrases, is nothing less than deception. A person 'Christian doesn't need to use non biblical words and non biblical phrases to teach what Jesus or the Apostle Paul taught.

The Mormons and the Watchtower is nothing more than modern day Gnosticism.

I am so glad that I gave them my letter. "Thank you Father.

“Houston, TX”

Since: Jun 12

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#19 Jun 22, 2012
This is PRIME sockpuppeting me....Childish, I know....

< http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/jehovahs -... ;

Then, of course, it could be Dan as well....Either way, it is sad.
It is sad that you are sad.

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#20 Jun 22, 2012
Self Righteous wrote:
Do you consider 9 and 12 year old babies Wonder?
"Listening to the WTS.. over the years ..blithering about churches baptizing babies. And now ..they do it.."
No.. I don't They are past the age of diapers and baby food... and yet...they are not adults either.. as i expect you well know...

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