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#13510 Nov 18, 2012
TPMP wrote:
"No rays" is a real kook.
ROFL!
do you realise that NR JWF and EE would be laughing at you behind your back while you do their bidding, they have a real fool in you why they wouldn't trust you in a fit. Your being used.
Lets set it straight

Bakersfield, CA

#13511 Nov 18, 2012
Crystal Chanda Cassadine wrote:
<quoted text>
If some of you on this forum continue to be abusive to him, then you are on your own if he replies in a harsh manner.
It is your own fault if he verbally attacks you.
Like Array. she followed him around and mocked and taunted him repeatedly until he lashed out at her.
She has no one to blame except for herself. She deliberately pushed him to that point. And notice how she is still upset because he lashed out at her with something disgusting, and yet untrue.
But then....,she did the same thing to him.
What would you expect from him? A handshake?
If you have a problem with him....,then try talking to him decently.
If you claim to know Jesus, then why not remember how Jesus talked with others? None of you have shown that you care about him. He has straight up informed this forum how hypocritical the antiJW crowd us, and how he doesn't want to be like any of you.
I don't blame him, and I am also happy that he is changing his course.
Jehovah knows who he finds desirable and will draw that person to him.
You people are angered over his turn in life. You loved him when he was a miserable person as yourselves. You loved watching him do evil things to the JW's here.
Well, he has decided that this evil that you people possess is not what he wants.
Since when have any of us not been on our own with our comments?
Do you think you protect the forum from others or something?
That is funny!
And never forget that people are going to talk the way they want and you can do nothing about it other than leave.
TPMP isn;t a desirable person to God. You must just close your eyes to his posts, but then you ought to read some of yours as well.

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#13512 Nov 18, 2012
TPMP wrote:
<quoted text> You're boring as all hell!
Get a life!
You repeat yourself like a drone.
yeah your bored by the truth!
Lets set it straight

Bakersfield, CA

#13513 Nov 18, 2012
array wrote:
<quoted text>yes she thinks its funny every dirty filthy word that her pal tpmp posts on here, and its justified in her eyes no matter how disgusting, this is why she has never been accepted by JW and why she doesn't want tpmp to progress either she would be completly lost if he ever left and went to the KH, would be shattering no one to do her dirty work for her.
I remember reading things her kids wrote and I imagine they learned that language at home. NR is used to that sort of garbage talk. I bet she talks that way all the time and so she sees nothing at all wrong with it even thinking people that talk like that are "desirable" to God.
LOL!
Donl;t give her any more attention that this. she feeds off of it. You can see she thinks she controls the people on the forum already!
I am enjoying her stupid remarks tonight!
Lets set it straight

Bakersfield, CA

#13514 Nov 18, 2012
array wrote:
Apostasy, from Jehovah's standpoint, is a turning away from him and a rejection of his word.(Isaiah 9:16,17; Jer. 17:13, NWT)
Actually it is turning away from his Son.
But yes, that would involve the Father as well because he placed that Son in his position.
Hearing God's word and turning away from it is apostacy. But don;t ya know the WTS made it their own special word that has a different meaning!
that is because they have placed the organization into the position iof Jesus and the Father.
Cut and dry.

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#13515 Nov 18, 2012
Lets set it straight wrote:
<quoted text>I remember reading things her kids wrote and I imagine they learned that language at home. NR is used to that sort of garbage talk. I bet she talks that way all the time and so she sees nothing at all wrong with it even thinking people that talk like that are "desirable" to God.
LOL!
Donl;t give her any more attention that this. she feeds off of it. You can see she thinks she controls the people on the forum already!
I am enjoying her stupid remarks tonight!
she is a very sick women and you are correct she feeds of it I think that is why she is taken in by tpmp, they are a great couple to bad he is married, then again I doubt if he would like a washed up old women like her but one never knows there seems to be some attraction.
Nabija

Van Nuys, CA

#13516 Nov 18, 2012
This thread is still going on! Wow! Hi girls..muah!!;oD
Nabija

Van Nuys, CA

#13517 Nov 18, 2012
array wrote:
<quoted text>do you realise that NR JWF and EE would be laughing at you behind your back while you do their bidding, they have a real fool in you why they wouldn't trust you in a fit. Your being used.
And you're still an apostate? Wow! You're finito!
TPMP

Brooklyn, NY

#13518 Nov 18, 2012
array wrote:
<quoted text>yes she thinks its funny every dirty filthy word that her pal tpmp posts on here, and its justified in her eyes no matter how disgusting, this is why she has never been accepted by JW and why she doesn't want tpmp to progress either she would be completly lost if he ever left and went to the KH, would be shattering no one to do her dirty work for her.
You are a mental case. Trully!

Christ!

ROTFLMAO!!!

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#13519 Nov 18, 2012
Nabija wrote:
<quoted text> And you're still an apostate? Wow! You're finito!
ahh nabija who ever you really are, nothing to say about your JW co-horts and their filthy mouths, of cause no you support them!! your finito!

They have not blushed in connection with their bold promise as expressed back in a 1969 Awake! magazine: "If you are a young person, you also need to face the fact that you will never grow old in this present system of things. Why not? Because all the evidence in fulfillment of Bible prophecy indicates that this corrupt system is due to end in a few years. Of the generation that observed the beginning of the 'last days' in 1914, Jesus foretold:'This generation will by no means pass away until all these things occur.' Therefore, as a young person, you will never fulfill any career that this system offers." (Awake! 1969 May 22 p.15) Ironically, many of the ones especially trusting in the Society's leadership and their promises are now suffering the most, finding themselves destitute. Contrary to their expectations, they have grown old in this present system of things and are now working at menial jobs way past their retirement age, not having prepared financially for their old age. But do not allow the failed promises of the self-professed "faithful slave" throw you off your spiritual balance! You can continue to have full confidence in Jehovah's promises, for they will never fail to come true, nor lead to disappointment, although appearing to delay.—Habakkuk 2:2-4.

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#13520 Nov 18, 2012
Nabija wrote:
<quoted text> And you're still an apostate? Wow! You're finito!
whats apostate about posting what the WT says, read it carfully then get back to me and see if you agree with it, if you do then you are an aposate to Gods word and a lover of lies.

This Generation"
The Watchtower of February 15, 2008,(pages 23-25), offered an updated explanation regarding "this generation," as mentioned by Jesus at Matthew 24:34. But this was not a "new" understanding, as it returned to the interpretation of 81 years earlier, in the 1927 Watchtower, February 15, page 62.

The changing explanations over the years of "this generation":

C.T. Russell taught that "this generation" referred to people in general, who were living at a significant time in history.(Battle of Armageddon, pages 603-605)

J.F. Rutherford changed this in 1927 to apply only to the members of the "new creation," the anointed. "Some members of the new creation will be on the earth at the time of Armageddon." (W27, 2/15, p 62, click to view photocopy (res. 900x1191)

In 1942, "this generation" was no longer identified with just the anointed.(W42, 7/1, p 204, par. 43)

In 1949 it was more clearly explained that it "had its modern counterpart in our generation from A.D. 1914 forward. This generation is the one that sees the Son of man coming with the clouds of heaven as foretold by Daniel." It was expected that the generation of 1914 would be on hand to witness the end of this system.(W49, 7/15, p 215, par. 19)

By 1995 time for "this generation" had run out and the explanation needed to be updated. Therefore, "this generation" became "the wayward people who make up this contemporary 'wicked and adulterous generation,'" but no longer limited to any particular date.(w95 11/1 p. 15 par. 21)

Then in 2008, we were told: "As a class, these anointed ones make up the modern-day 'generation' of contemporaries that will not pass away 'until all these things occur.'" (W08, 2/15, p 23-25)

This explanation was a return to what had already been discredited.

The April 15, 2010 Watchtower adds the following "increased light": "[The word 'generation'] usually refers to people of varying ages whose lives overlap during a particular time period; it is not excessively long; and it has an end...[Jesus] evidently meant that the lives of the anointed who were on hand when the sign began to become evident in 1914 would overlap with the lives of other anointed ones who would see the start of the great tribulation. That generation had a beginning, and it surely will have an end."

It's just as Isaiah foretold:
"O my people, those leading you on are causing [you] to wander, and the way of your paths they have confused... Jehovah himself will enter into judgment with the elderly ones of his people and its princes." —Isaiah 3:12-14.

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#13521 Nov 18, 2012
Nabija wrote:
<quoted text> And you're still an apostate? Wow! You're finito!
can you show from the scriptures where this is wrong! if you can't than you are an apostate to Gods word and a lover of those that hate truth.

Let's back up to Acts 13. There, the Holy Spirit called Saul (Paul) and Barnabas to missionary work. The Christians at Antioch blessed them and sent them out. No consultation with Jerusalem or the original apostles at all. When they returned, they reported back to the Antioch Christians, not to some "Governing Body" in Jerusalem.(Acts 14:26)

By Acts 15, it was brothers who came FROM Jerusalem that were causing a serious PROBLEM by bringing false, legalistic teachings to Antioch. Paul didn't go to Jerusalem because there was some sort of Governing Body there. He went to Jerusalem because the legalistic falsehoods originated in Jerusalem and were spreading from there. So it was natural for Paul to go TO Jerusalem to make the brothers there aware of what was going on and to get it stopped.

In other words, it was what the WT considers "headquarters" where the false teaching originated. Paul had to go there to get it stopped, not to ask what the "truth" was. OF COURSE, the leaders in Jerusalem had to make some sort of statement. It was men who purported to speak with their backing that were causing the problem! This conclusion is supported by the fact that the reply was sent to the Antioch Christians, not circulated to congregations everywhere as some central directive. Luke later reported this in Acts 15, but not because some "Governing Body" directed him to do it.

In Galatians 2:6, Paul says of this, "And from those who were reputed to be something (what they were makes no difference to me; God shows no partiality)-- those, I say, who were of repute added nothing to me..." Paul said the reputation of the Jerusalem brothers made no difference to him and they added nothing to him by issuing some centralized decision. God shows no partiality. They were NOT a part of some "Governing Body"!

Later in Galatians 2:11, same issue: circumcision. There, Peter came from Jerusalem to Antioch and ate freely with uncircumcised Gentile brothers. But when certain men came from James (the leader of the Acts 15 conference in Jerusalem, probably Jesus' half-brother, certainly an apostle) Peter drew back and refused to eat with uncircumcised brothers. Instead of accepting this as a directive or "new light" from the "Governing Body" in Jerusalem, Paul confronted "Governing Body" member Peter (an apostle personally selected by Jesus) and rebuked him for acting hypocritically.

So the idea that there was some sort of "Governing Body" in Jerusalem from whom all Christians took orders is simply FALSE. The accounts in Acts show exactly the opposite!

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#13522 Nov 18, 2012
TPMP wrote:
<quoted text>You are a mental case. Trully!
Christ!
ROTFLMAO!!!
megalomaniac
(someone who is full of themselves has visions of grandure)

tpmp this is you!

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#13523 Nov 18, 2012
Nabija wrote:
<quoted text> And you're still an apostate? Wow! You're finito!
the GB does not agree with Russell, in fact they must think he was an idiot to say this... what do you think and has nothing to do with a light getting brighter as organization is not scriptual what do you think?

What Did Charles Taze Russell Warn Against?

If you are a Witness, you know that you really have to be on your toes to keep up with doctrinal changes in this organization. Countless doctrines have been changed or discarded in the past 100 years, and you probably are not aware of what the Society taught on many subjects even 20 years ago. Do you realize that if Charles Taze Russell, their founder, were a member of the organization today, he would most certainly be disfellowshipped for his 'anti-organizational' beliefs? Some quotes from Russell:

"The endeavor to compel all men to think alike on all subjects, culminated in the great apostasy and the development of the great papal system, and thereby the gospel, the one faith that Paul and the other apostles set forth, was lost - buried under the mass of uninspired decrees of popes and councils. The unity of the early church, based upon the simple gospel and bound only by love, gave place to the bondage of the church of Rome...Each new reform movement (like Protestantism) has made the failure of attempting to make a creed just large enough for its prime movers."3

On why organizations don't work -

"...we have pointed out continually the tendency of Christian people toward union, showing, too, that such a union is predicted in scripture; but that its results, while designed to be good, will really be bad; and this because it will be a mechanical union instead of a heart unity."4

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#13524 Nov 18, 2012
Nabija wrote:
<quoted text> And you're still an apostate? Wow! You're finito!
how about you do you test or do you just believe everything the GB as if it is from the mouth of God, if you do perhaps we could discuss a few things that you do, and see what the bible says.

"It is important, then, that you "keep testing whether you are in the faith," as Paul declared. Keep checking to see whether the things you believe are in keeping with God's Word. But the question is, Are you willing to put your religion through such a test? There is nothing to fear, because if you have the right religion you can only be reassured by the examination. And if what you believe is not in keeping with the Bible, then you should welcome the truth, because it leads to light and life." Watchtower May 1 1958 p.261 Is Your Religion the Right One?

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#13525 Nov 18, 2012
Nabija wrote:
<quoted text> And you're still an apostate? Wow! You're finito!
if you would like to discuss scripture in light of some of the teachings I would be happy to, after all you come here talking to DF ones and so called apostates against what your beloved GB says, surely you would like to talk about why you just jump in call others apostates, without addressing anything rather childish don't you think.
Nabija

Van Nuys, CA

#13526 Nov 18, 2012
array wrote:
<quoted text>ahh nabija who ever you really are, nothing to say about your JW co-horts and their filthy mouths, of cause no you support them!! your finito!
They have not blushed in connection with their bold promise as expressed back in a 1969 Awake! magazine: "If you are a young person, you also need to face the fact that you will never grow old in this present system of things. Why not? Because all the evidence in fulfillment of Bible prophecy indicates that this corrupt system is due to end in a few years. Of the generation that observed the beginning of the 'last days' in 1914, Jesus foretold:'This generation will by no means pass away until all these things occur.' Therefore, as a young person, you will never fulfill any career that this system offers." (Awake! 1969 May 22 p.15) Ironically, many of the ones especially trusting in the Society's leadership and their promises are now suffering the most, finding themselves destitute. Contrary to their expectations, they have grown old in this present system of things and are now working at menial jobs way past their retirement age, not having prepared financially for their old age. But do not allow the failed promises of the self-professed "faithful slave" throw you off your spiritual balance! You can continue to have full confidence in Jehovah's promises, for they will never fail to come true, nor lead to disappointment, although appearing to delay.—Habakkuk 2:2-4.
You talk too much...and you still don't say anything.
Nabija

Van Nuys, CA

#13527 Nov 18, 2012
array wrote:
<quoted text>ahh nabija who ever you really are, nothing to say about your JW co-horts and their filthy mouths, of cause no you support them!! your finito!
They have not blushed in connection with their bold promise as expressed back in a 1969 Awake! magazine: "If you are a young person, you also need to face the fact that you will never grow old in this present system of things. Why not? Because all the evidence in fulfillment of Bible prophecy indicates that this corrupt system is due to end in a few years. Of the generation that observed the beginning of the 'last days' in 1914, Jesus foretold:'This generation will by no means pass away until all these things occur.' Therefore, as a young person, you will never fulfill any career that this system offers." (Awake! 1969 May 22 p.15) Ironically, many of the ones especially trusting in the Society's leadership and their promises are now suffering the most, finding themselves destitute. Contrary to their expectations, they have grown old in this present system of things and are now working at menial jobs way past their retirement age, not having prepared financially for their old age. But do not allow the failed promises of the self-professed "faithful slave" throw you off your spiritual balance! You can continue to have full confidence in Jehovah's promises, for they will never fail to come true, nor lead to disappointment, although appearing to delay.—Habakkuk 2:2-4.
You're talking about some magazine in the 60s its 2012. You got issues.
Nabija

Van Nuys, CA

#13528 Nov 18, 2012
array wrote:
<quoted text>can you show from the scriptures where this is wrong! if you can't than you are an apostate to Gods word and a lover of those that hate truth.
Let's back up to Acts 13. There, the Holy Spirit called Saul (Paul) and Barnabas to missionary work. The Christians at Antioch blessed them and sent them out. No consultation with Jerusalem or the original apostles at all. When they returned, they reported back to the Antioch Christians, not to some "Governing Body" in Jerusalem.(Acts 14:26)
By Acts 15, it was brothers who came FROM Jerusalem that were causing a serious PROBLEM by bringing false, legalistic teachings to Antioch. Paul didn't go to Jerusalem because there was some sort of Governing Body there. He went to Jerusalem because the legalistic falsehoods originated in Jerusalem and were spreading from there. So it was natural for Paul to go TO Jerusalem to make the brothers there aware of what was going on and to get it stopped.
In other words, it was what the WT considers "headquarters" where the false teaching originated. Paul had to go there to get it stopped, not to ask what the "truth" was. OF COURSE, the leaders in Jerusalem had to make some sort of statement. It was men who purported to speak with their backing that were causing the problem! This conclusion is supported by the fact that the reply was sent to the Antioch Christians, not circulated to congregations everywhere as some central directive. Luke later reported this in Acts 15, but not because some "Governing Body" directed him to do it.
In Galatians 2:6, Paul says of this, "And from those who were reputed to be something (what they were makes no difference to me; God shows no partiality)-- those, I say, who were of repute added nothing to me..." Paul said the reputation of the Jerusalem brothers made no difference to him and they added nothing to him by issuing some centralized decision. God shows no partiality. They were NOT a part of some "Governing Body"!
Later in Galatians 2:11, same issue: circumcision. There, Peter came from Jerusalem to Antioch and ate freely with uncircumcised Gentile brothers. But when certain men came from James (the leader of the Acts 15 conference in Jerusalem, probably Jesus' half-brother, certainly an apostle) Peter drew back and refused to eat with uncircumcised brothers. Instead of accepting this as a directive or "new light" from the "Governing Body" in Jerusalem, Paul confronted "Governing Body" member Peter (an apostle personally selected by Jesus) and rebuked him for acting hypocritically.
So the idea that there was some sort of "Governing Body" in Jerusalem from whom all Christians took orders is simply FALSE. The accounts in Acts show exactly the opposite!
Oh boy, here we go.......

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#13529 Nov 18, 2012
Nabija wrote:
<quoted text> You talk too much...and you still don't say anything.
really is posting WT literature talking to much ask Gareth he does it all day long.

seeing you can't address the post purhaps I should just keep posting WT literature and see what you think, see if you can find anything out of wack, no be honest its Gods word we should really be interested in after all.

Now lets try this one. And remember its from you GB, so don't complain now!!

Avoid the Pursuit of “Valueless Things”

SEPTEMBER 2002 OUR KINGDOM MINISTRY

We have an official Internet Web site: www.watchtower.org . This site is adequate to make information available to the public. There is no need for any individual, committee, or congregation to prepare a Web page about Jehovah’s Witnesses.

tell that to Standfirm, Tears of Oberon, Thirdwitness.... I mean you must be followers of men, and I thought the GB was enough apparently it isn't. Oh dear

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