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Drastic changes as Watchtower continues to downsize!

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Stan

Colorado Springs, CO

#2 Sep 21, 2013
I wonder how many of the workers who get sent home become disgruntled since they are no longer on a free meal ticket?

"Thanks for your time, but you're own your own now. Go out and bring in some more recruits so we can get more money."

I guess God isn't providing at this time. Keep selling watchtower, keep selling.

“Paradise Earth”

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#3 Sep 21, 2013
Stan wrote:
I wonder how many of the workers who get sent home become disgruntled since they are no longer on a free meal ticket?
"Thanks for your time, but you're own your own now. Go out and bring in some more recruits so we can get more money."
I guess God isn't providing at this time. Keep selling watchtower, keep selling.
No one is on a "free meal ticket".

They all work full time jobs for no pay. Hardly a "free meal ticket".

“Life is short, enjoy life.:-).”

Since: Aug 13

Baghdad, Iraq

#4 Sep 21, 2013
Aneirin wrote:
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No one is on a "free meal ticket".
They all work full time jobs for no pay. Hardly a "free meal ticket".
It's voluntary ......... Easy life, everything arranged, living in a cocoon. Away from the bad bad evil world of everyday......
Remnant143999

Albuquerque, NM

#5 Sep 21, 2013
Aneirin wrote:
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No one is on a "free meal ticket".
They all work full time jobs for no pay. Hardly a "free meal ticket".
So do the people doing time in prisons?
UNchained

Louisville, TN

#6 Sep 21, 2013
MarcelB wrote:
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It's voluntary ......... Easy life, everything arranged, living in a cocoon. Away from the bad bad evil world of everyday......
Until the WTBTS started selling off their Brooklyn, New York properties a Bethlite could go from one building to another via their underground tunnel system without seeing a 'worldly' person.

Since: Jan 12

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#7 Sep 21, 2013
Aneirin wrote:
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No one is on a "free meal ticket".
They all work full time jobs for no pay. Hardly a "free meal ticket".
Most people who work full-time menial jobs do not enjoy the perks bethelites do. They get to live in an upscale apt in prime real estate with all their utilities paid, their clothes are washed and pressed and dry cleaned if needed. They don't have to cook because that is done for them too. I lived as an expat overseas with these amenities, and I tell you, I never lived a more comfortable life. All I had to concern myself with is showing to work. Nothing else.

So when these bethelites who went to bethel right out of HS are in for the shock of their life when have to join the real world.

One would hope that bethel offers some sort of exit counseling on how to adjust to reality! But then again, what would this cult know about reality! They live in a bubble!

“Paradise Earth”

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#9 Sep 21, 2013
Arkham Bravo wrote:
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Most people who work full-time menial jobs do not enjoy the perks bethelites do. They get to live in an upscale apt in prime real estate with all their utilities paid, their clothes are washed and pressed and dry cleaned if needed. They don't have to cook because that is done for them too. I lived as an expat overseas with these amenities, and I tell you, I never lived a more comfortable life. All I had to concern myself with is showing to work. Nothing else.
So when these bethelites who went to bethel right out of HS are in for the shock of their life when have to join the real world.
One would hope that bethel offers some sort of exit counseling on how to adjust to reality! But then again, what would this cult know about reality! They live in a bubble!
A similar argument could be made for minimum wage workers in the Hotel & Catering industry. But you don't see people suggesting they live luxurious lives. The difference is that minimum wage workers in the Hotel & Catering industry do actually get paid and walk away with a tonne of money when they leave.

Bethel volunteers walk away with exactly NOTHING WHATSOEVER.

So it is only right they they live (non monetarily) COMFORTABLE lives.

Honestly the way you people go on trying to make out like UNPAID live-in volunteer work is somehow luxurious living shows how utterly dishonest you people really are.

“Paradise Earth”

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#10 Sep 21, 2013
KDMensch wrote:
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"For the sake of Peter!!!" (??? I watched the movie "Short Circuit" last night)
You will absolutely fantasize or rationalize anything won't you? No matter how ridiculous you sound!
Explain to the READERS why it is ridiculous for me to say that a person who works 40 hours a week to receive only food and board is not getting a "free meal".

Please tell us without looking ridiculous yourself.

“New one man.”

Since: Jan 11

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#12 Sep 21, 2013
I'm sorry I'm with Aneirin on this one. They all have jobs that they do and since they work there their room and board are sort of the trade off.
It's not a free meal ticket.
UNchained

Louisville, TN

#14 Sep 21, 2013
Aneirin wrote:
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No one is on a "free meal ticket".
They all work full time jobs for no pay. Hardly a "free meal ticket".
How do you feel about the JW's who are no longer able to serve at bethel and have to find secular work in this unstable worldwide economy?

El cacique

Since: Dec 12

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#15 Sep 21, 2013
MixedMedia wrote:
I'm sorry I'm with Aneirin on this one. They all have jobs that they do and since they work there their room and board are sort of the trade off.
It's not a free meal ticket.
MM is talking sense.

Ohhh, what is this world coming, too?.

LOL!

El cacique

Since: Dec 12

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#16 Sep 21, 2013
UNchained wrote:
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How do you feel about the JW's who are no longer able to serve at bethel and have to find secular work in this unstable worldwide economy?
Bob,

They are far happier than you are.....Trust me!

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People would be surprised how much more and satisfying life can be once you are free from the love of money.

Since: Jan 12

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#17 Sep 21, 2013
Aneirin wrote:
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A similar argument could be made for minimum wage workers in the Hotel & Catering industry. But you don't see people suggesting they live luxurious lives. The difference is that minimum wage workers in the Hotel & Catering industry do actually get paid and walk away with a tonne of money when they leave.
Bethel volunteers walk away with exactly NOTHING WHATSOEVER.
So it is only right they they live (non monetarily) COMFORTABLE lives.
Honestly the way you people go on trying to make out like UNPAID live-in volunteer work is somehow luxurious living shows how utterly dishonest you people really are.
Okay Gareth, my mother worked in the Hotel & Catering industry for over 20 years as a banquet hostess and even made it to banquet captain. You know what she left with, a bad back and a knee replacement!

These live-in volunteers are very well taken care of. Very few of us have all our living expenses paid for and chores done so we can focus on work. I am not talking about what they walk away with, I'm talking about how they are taken care of in Bethel.

I lived the life and believe me, when I got stateside it was difficult to get back to actually having to take care of those things like; paying your own medical bills, washing your own clothes, making your own food, washing your own dishes, etc. When you are in bethel, a lot of the chores are done by other volunteers so you can work in book binding or wherever.

I loved expat life! I worked in China as an ESL teacher and made a paltry 500 USD a month! I didn't walk away with much of anything either. However, two years of stress free living made up for all that.

No one is being dishonest, just calling it as it is!

Since: Jun 11

Perth, Australia

#21 Sep 21, 2013
With all this downsizing one wonders if the JWs just cannot find it in themselves to contribute enough to their organization.

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#22 Sep 21, 2013
DR SOS wrote:
<quoted text>So what you are saying is that being taken care of the majority of your life at bethel makes you ill equipped to do anything but wipe your arse when you leave?
LOL.
Pretty much! It's not like Bethel is shining bright on their resume! The interviewer is like, "What's Bethel?"

"Oh so you made books all your life and now you want to be my latex salesman?!"

“Paradise Earth”

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#23 Sep 21, 2013
UNchained wrote:
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How do you feel about the JW's who are no longer able to serve at bethel and have to find secular work in this unstable worldwide economy?
In my experience Jehovah's Witnesses look after one another whether they work at Bethel or not.

What Jesus said is absolutely true among Jehovah's people:

*** Matt 6:31-33 "Therefore do not be anxious, saying,'What will we eat?','What will we drink?' or,'With what will we be clothed?' For the Gentiles seek after all these things, for your heavenly Father knows that you need all these things. But seek first his Kingdom, and his righteousness; and all these things will be given to you as well.

Jehovah's Witnesses:
http://www.jw.org/en/jehovahs-witnesses/

Jehovah's Witnesses' publications:
http://www.jw.org/en/publications/

Jehovah's Witnesses' Bible teachings:
http://www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/

“Paradise Earth”

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#24 Sep 21, 2013
Arkham Bravo wrote:
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Okay Gareth, my mother worked in the Hotel & Catering industry for over 20 years as a banquet hostess and even made it to banquet captain. You know what she left with, a bad back and a knee replacement!
Imagine the same thing but with no pay. That's your Bethel worker.

“Paradise Earth”

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#26 Sep 21, 2013
DR SOS wrote:
So they apply for welfare when they leave?
If there is no job waiting for them then I would absolutely hope so.

Since: Jan 12

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#28 Sep 21, 2013
Aneirin wrote:
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In my experience Jehovah's Witnesses look after one another whether they work at Bethel or not.
What Jesus said is absolutely true among Jehovah's people:
*** Matt 6:31-33 "Therefore do not be anxious, saying,'What will we eat?','What will we drink?' or,'With what will we be clothed?' For the Gentiles seek after all these things, for your heavenly Father knows that you need all these things. But seek first his Kingdom, and his righteousness; and all these things will be given to you as well.
Jehovah's Witnesses:
http://www.jw.org/en/jehovahs-witnesses/
Jehovah's Witnesses' publications:
http://www.jw.org/en/publications/
Jehovah's Witnesses' Bible teachings:
http://www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/
Ah, that's horsesh*t! You know how many JWs are on the dole; getting by with supplements from the gov't?!

JWs don't have careers. They have crappy low-wage jobs so of course they have to put their hand-out. The friends from the hall help out from time to time, but since resources are limited across the board, there is not much that can be done.

And the WTBS with their hundreds of millions don't do much for the rank and file ever!! Do you think the WTBS cuts a check to that sister who pioneered for 30 years and is now facing eviction because her social security check doesn't cut it! Hell no! Do you even think she'd be able to write the society for a bailout? Hell no!

This cult has ZERO charities, ZERO social programs to help their members, yet the very churches that do have these programs, they bash!

Next time, try quoting that scripture to the JW who lost their job and now their house is in foreclosure.

God does not give bailouts...the US govt does!!!

Since: Jan 12

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#29 Sep 21, 2013
Aneirin wrote:
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Imagine the same thing but with no pay. That's your Bethel worker.
And what does a Bethel worker have to worry about? Nothing! Zero worries is priceless in this world my friend! They don't have to worry about their next meal, whether they will have clothes on their back, or a roof over their head, or job security (well maybe now they do). Zero worries; you can't put a salary on that! It's good to be a Bethelite!

Did I even mention the horde of sisters that want to marry them because of their bethelite status!?

But now back to your Hotel and Catering employee, who works for minimum wage, can't make ends meet, and is worried that their hotel will be cannibalized by another hotel, which is EXACTLY what happened to my mother.

She worked for the Hilton chain until a Middle Eastern cheapskate bought the building. She lost so much in the change and was relegated to basically an entry-level staffer once the new ownership brought in their people. Wow, you picked the wrong industry to start with me! I can tell you horrors from the hotel and catering industry. I lived it for many years and watched it break my mother!

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