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Rajesh Jain

Surat, India

#1 May 25, 2009
I am feeling so awkward writing this, but to clarify, I am genuine and this is a genuine query. I am from a very small town of rajasthan and now I live in mumbai for last 10 years. I am born and broughtup in a very orthodox jain family. I am a well educated guy and into business of fabrics. I offer puja daily, we do not eat potatoes and onion and ofcourse we are pure vegetarian. We do not eat after sun set and we obey all the jain rules strictly. When it comes to sex I have no guidence. Is ORAL sex ok, I feel like guilty when I go down to my wife. She too do not prefer it but cooperate just because I like it, or may be she enjoys it too. the hard and restricted rules of jainism never gives any proper guidance for sexual activites. we even say sorry while in pratikaman regarding even having a sexual thought. So fantacizing or oral sex is Ok or is it a SIN. Please reply.

Rajesh.
Aatma

Flushing, NY

#2 Jun 13, 2009
Hi,
Oral sex is a sin.Fantiscising and wishing for it is also paap. Infact, having regular sex is a sin too. However there are a number of sins that we all do. You cannot possibly stop every sin in this bhoomika.
People often get carried away in the do's and dont's, paap and punya of jainism and forget about the fundamentals.
The aim of a jain is to work towards attaining Moksha and getting rid of the cycle of birth and death by finding our inner soul (Aatma). We have to seperate ourselves (Aatma) from the body and the various feelings, emotions (Raag, Dwesh). We are the aatma, the observer/knower (Jaannar/gnayak) and not the human. This is called bhed gnan.
While you are having sex/oral sex or crave for it, you can do bhed gnan. You are doing it because you believe that it will give you happiness. While it is a temporary pleasure, it is not going to give you happiness, it is like scratching when your skin itches. It gives you temporary relief while making the skin worse. You must remind yourself from time to time that you are doing it because you have forgotten who you really are, and are roaming about the universe taking several births seeking hppiness from external sources when the truth is that you are only the observer, the soul and when you realise and experience that, you will attain eternal happiness, peace, independance, kevargnan and finally moksh.
Your feelings and craving cannot stop instantly, you have to keep thinking about this, applying this theory to everything you do (Not just oral sex) and soon your craving will reduce as you will start seeing the truth. The soul is the only thing that is yours and that is what you need to find.
Aatma

Flushing, NY

#3 Jun 13, 2009
Rajesh Jain wrote:
I am feeling so awkward writing this, but to clarify, I am genuine and this is a genuine query. I am from a very small town of rajasthan and now I live in mumbai for last 10 years. I am born and broughtup in a very orthodox jain family. I am a well educated guy and into business of fabrics. I offer puja daily, we do not eat potatoes and onion and ofcourse we are pure vegetarian. We do not eat after sun set and we obey all the jain rules strictly. When it comes to sex I have no guidence. Is ORAL sex ok, I feel like guilty when I go down to my wife. She too do not prefer it but cooperate just because I like it, or may be she enjoys it too. the hard and restricted rules of jainism never gives any proper guidance for sexual activites. we even say sorry while in pratikaman regarding even having a sexual thought. So fantacizing or oral sex is Ok or is it a SIN. Please reply.
Rajesh.
Hi,
Oral sex is a sin.Fantiscising and wishing for it is also paap. Infact, having regular sex is a sin too. However there are a number of sins that we all do. You cannot possibly stop every sin in this bhoomika.
People often get carried away in the do's and dont's, paap and punya of jainism and forget about the fundamentals.
The aim of a jain is to work towards attaining Moksha and getting rid of the cycle of birth and death by finding our inner soul (Aatma). We have to seperate ourselves (Aatma) from the body and the various feelings, emotions (Raag, Dwesh). We are the aatma, the observer/knower (Jaannar/gnayak) and not the human. This is called bhed gnan.
While you are having sex/oral sex or crave for it, you can do bhed gnan. You are doing it because you believe that it will give you happiness. While it is a temporary pleasure, it is not going to give you happiness, it is like scratching when your skin itches. It gives you temporary relief while making the skin worse. You must remind yourself from time to time that you are doing it because you have forgotten who you really are, and are roaming about the universe taking several births seeking hppiness from external sources when the truth is that you are only the observer, the soul and when you realise and experience that, you will attain eternal happiness, peace, independance, kevargnan and finally moksh.
Your feelings and craving cannot stop instantly, you have to keep thinking about this, applying this theory to everything you do (Not just oral sex) and soon your craving will reduce as you will start seeing the truth. The soul is the only thing that is yours and that is what you need to find.
Rajesh Jain

Surat, India

#4 Jun 16, 2009
Thanks for your reply and I am enlightned for sure, but all this seems very impractical in normal life, but anyway since you are answering me, I would love to get one more of my query answered and then we will discuss this one further. Actually, I am into business and we all evade Govt. Taxes. Whenever I am in front of god, offering my pooja, the thought of evading TAX haunts me, it screams to my ear : theft is a theft, small or big. So please tell me if evading TAX is a sin or not, if it is a sin how to overcome the guilty. Thanks.
sunil

UAE

#6 Oct 1, 2009
Boss with no offence to jain religion. But I know a jain person who follow of all jain rules very honestly, but when it comes to sex he has a relation with his, not one but two sister in laws. So as an non jain I found it very disturbing that in one hand he always advice me to have veg food etc and in other had he dose these things.
Dhiren Dedhia

Mumbai, India

#8 Feb 9, 2010
All the above people are thinking that if they are born in that religion then they are of that religion.but you took it totally wrong. one cannot say that the person is Jain or because he is born in Jain family house,even the house is not called Jain if he is not following the Ethics of Jain,because once you disobey you are out.you are not Jain any more,this is for all religion.
And to be very serious Jainism is a study of every small thing that ensures that any one in this world is least hurt because of them.(means because of me any one should not Hurt by any mean.)
Don't address that Jainism is wrong,address people who are wrong in their duties.
Hindustani

Chennai, India

#10 Jul 11, 2010
Excuse me dhiren,
Ur speech is well and good. According to them they know whether they are really jains or not. But consider practical life, the first rule is not to hurt others right?
So many girls from jain community, loved boys from other religion. I don't know whether it comes in sin category or not. BUT AFTER THE PARENTS LOOK SOME JAIN BRIDE FOR THEM, SUDDENLY THEY QUIT THAT LOVE AND MOVED AWAY. That parents even know the matter sometimes. And also someone went to exceeding level and even got married. And after that quit jus because of the community.
Why those damn girls know the real picture of jain community before they fall in love?
Why those filthy girls dont know this really pains that guy?
Also my friend married a jain girl. He is a christian. She came out of her home and married him. So many complaints given by her dad and made him into problems. But somehow he escaped bec she was with him. After somedays, her mom called her for a relative marriage, He even allowed with a patch up expectation. but after a month, she filed complaint against him in Police station in dowry harrassment case. Not only on him, on his mom and bro. and asked for divorce. U know, how idiotic is this?
People are so selfish and cheaaters. So by common dont tal any statements by words. It might be a proof somewhere.
Hindusthani Mubais

Riverview, FL

#11 Aug 14, 2010
all Indianz are hypocrite, the jainis are the biggest hypocrites. They are talking of this paap and that paap, but you will find them in biggest corruption scams. The true paap is tax evasions,corruptions, kaalabazar, connections with rulers,politicians and bhai-logs for money. Better to have a God given sex and enjoy life without talking big big senseless things. Why cant be more honest financially and socially rather than talking and behaving superior to others? Why cant we send our boys and girls to Army,navy,police,SRP,Municipal ity,etc? We talk of ahimsa but then we have big scams on our hands for faulty armament contracts and useless bullet proof jackets. STOP THE HYPOCRICY OF ALL RELIGION AND ANY RELIGION AND LEAVE AS HONESTLY AS YOU CAN AND ATLEAST STOP SECRETLY OR OPENLY CRITICISING OUR OTHER FAITHS. Take it or leave it. Oh, please dont run to bhai-log to get me beaten up. Ok!
Hindustanis

Riverview, FL

#12 Aug 18, 2010
Hindustani wrote:
Excuse me dhiren,
Ur speech is well and good. According to them they know whether they are really jains or not. But consider practical life, the first rule is not to hurt others right?
So many girls from jain community, loved boys from other religion. I don't know whether it comes in sin category or not. BUT AFTER THE PARENTS LOOK SOME JAIN BRIDE FOR THEM, SUDDENLY THEY QUIT THAT LOVE AND MOVED AWAY. That parents even know the matter sometimes. And also someone went to exceeding level and even got married. And after that quit jus because of the community.
Why those damn girls know the real picture of jain community before they fall in love?
Why those filthy girls dont know this really pains that guy?
Also my friend married a jain girl. He is a christian. She came out of her home and married him. So many complaints given by her dad and made him into problems. But somehow he escaped bec she was with him. After somedays, her mom called her for a relative marriage, He even allowed with a patch up expectation. but after a month, she filed complaint against him in Police station in dowry harrassment case. Not only on him, on his mom and bro. and asked for divorce. U know, how idiotic is this?
People are so selfish and cheaaters. So by common dont tal any statements by words. It might be a proof somewhere.
Hindustani, it sad that some jains behaved the way they did . But frankly see there is a case of A hindu girl ( many like that all over the world and India) where a muslim called Iftikhar Ali Murtaza in Orange country California, trapped a haindu girl and immediately made her pregnanat so she has not where to go. These hindus are cowards and not stand by their own daughters in some cases. However here the parent understood the trick of the muzi boy as he was married and know rogue in the community of that area. So they naturally asked their daughter to stop seeing him anymore and nothing wrong with that. who wud want their daughter to be misused by a rogue even if he talks of secularism and love and shxx. I am sure your own parents wundnt like that. Anyway,let be back to the story. So the muzi.boy gets angy. One day arrives at the girls home and girl has gone out with her grandma.So they start beating up girls sister,father and mother...and you know what? They kill 2 of them and leave the 3rd one for dead. Then they roll the bodies of first 2 and take a forest to burn them and police catch them. Now the buys are in jail and you know what?..our gallant peaceful justice loving muslims !!! condemn the parents of the girl fantatics ! Have you seen any more shamelessness...You know towns and towns in India are getting converted by missionary money in whole of India where hindus are barred to use the drinking water well in the town unless they become christians n! If you are a true hindustani than you must also denouncew the efforts of foreign christian missionaries who misguide us against our own brothers even if they are not christians. How we are treated when we migrate to US,UK,SPAIN you know very well. Our nuns are used for all the dirty lowly work and also sexually abused. I have seen them in many christian missions in Africa and Europe. European christians mistreated lations as they as of today consider them lowly. Think of this brother ! Missionaries are trickily installing hatrade in our heart against our Hindu brothers and forefathers, but how much castism there is in catholics, you know it very well now.
rajesh doshi

Riverview, FL

#13 Aug 18, 2010
Hindustani, you say the jain girl accused you of harressment of Dawry and you say it is fake. Well that is your side of story and we must get the other side of the story, which may be totally opposit of what you say, then how to judge?
Aakash

Mumbai, India

#14 Aug 23, 2010
Now i want all you guys to read this....
According to AATMA who replied that sex is nothin but scratching the skin and sin..... why jains have babies ???
We human are part of Nature and the system of nature... and nature has given you Sexual organs to have sex not to see them and ask your self "hey wht the hell is this??? why god has given we Jains the willies and pussys "

Secondly to all jains i want to just ask one question for which i really need right answer....

Potatoes, Garlic and Onions are not supposed to be eat because of the Bacteria...

Why the hell you guys eat Bread and curd which is ment by bacteria...

Third thing.... this is the most important many of you dont know this.

Now jains Claims that they are not hindus, their religion is older than hindu.

---> All your gods 32 or 34 whtever were RAJPUT ( Shatriya) how the hell they were Rajput if Hinduism existed after Jainism ??

PS:- O dnt eat Jain food as i dnt wish to be part of hypocrisy....... Garlic is good for hearts guys accept it.....
Colada

United States

#15 Sep 1, 2010
I think all these religious things only work in India. When an Indian comes to the U.S., he/she has to change to adjust to the society here. I been out on dates with Indian men and they didn't want anything but sex. One actually told me that he will eventually marry a good Jain wife from India. I am more on the conservative side already, however, i was married once. I am not sure if I should even bother to date Indian men. I know when you date someone, it doesn't guarantee that it will lead to marriage. However, if a person has no intention to even have a long term relationship with someone outside of their culture/religions, why do so. Just because they are bored and want some fun in the meantime?
Nimesh Shah

Nairobi, Kenya

#16 Jan 25, 2011
The way this discussion has gone on makes me laugh!
Nimesh Shah

Nairobi, Kenya

#17 Jan 25, 2011
I am born in a Jain household in Kenya and am not a practising Jain nor do I believe in some of Jainism's concepts hence I am a self-labelled non-believer. My answer to the original question is as follows (in light of Jainism):
1. We are all born with sexual organs for the simple reason that we have to utilise them to promote further life.
2. Gaining pleasures from sex is considered 'bad' for your soul in light of Jainism as your 'soul' does not benefit from this.
3. According to Jainism, sex should only be consummated with the intent of producing offspring and not for bodily pleasures.

If Mr. Rajesh Jain is a devout Jain who follows Jainism as a layperson should then he should follows the above three points to guide him. What was explained and advised by Aatma is absolutely correct.

As for his second question on paying taxes, he is not only committing a sin, but is criminally liable by cheating on his taxes. There is nothing better than honesty and being a Jain he should realise how highly placed his values should be.

One can be classified as a Jain by his nature, priciples, acts... it is not enough just to be born a Jain, but one MUST have faith and follow the religion as it has been laid down.
Komal jain

Europe

#18 Mar 9, 2011
Yes i agree with you oral sex is quite ok.We do follow our rules but in the point of sex sometimes we shouldn't follow our rules.So ORAL sex is better
Nimesh Shah

Nairobi, Kenya

#20 Mar 9, 2011
To all the other people who responded and replied to the initial question with questions of their own I ask you all to repost your questions one at a time so that I can research and give you satisfactory answers.

Have a lovely day peeps!

:))
TRUTH

Hyderabad, India

#21 Aug 12, 2011
WHAT IS THIS? IF GOD CREATED YOU WITH THOSE THINGS USE IT CORRECTLY.HUMANS HAVE NATURAL FEELING OF SEX THAT WHY MARRIAGE IS ALSO THERE SO THAT YOU CANT DIVERT.FIRST IF WE ALL ARE BORN IN SOME RELIGION AND THERE ARE 10000000 RELIGIONS IN WORLD BUT DO YOU KNOW ONLY ONE RELIGION WILL BE CORRECT TRY TO KNOW ABOUT AT LEAST MAJOR ONES DIFFIDENTLY YOU WILL SUCCEED. TRY TO FIND IT
Jitesh tarvecha

Europe

#22 Sep 12, 2011
I am luv all bhagvans and we not eat befor sun-set my family allso
Jitesh tarvecha

Europe

#23 Sep 12, 2011
Who read this passage that is my friend i am Jitesh tarvecha of class 7A of S.t paul's secondry school pratapgharh {RAJASTHAN}
Kiran Jain

Poona, India

#24 Dec 23, 2011
Hey..guys..Actually..I read book named "sex to superconciouness".written by osho..he says"sex is a natural process"..every person is born with sex..and he even says that whn person performs sex very naturally.he gets free from sex..see guys I offer puja..I do samikya,chauvihar,and I love to read religious booksZz and I even go to Jain monks..and take knowledge of our Jainism regularly..and now I uv desire to take diksha..pls guys..wht to do??should I do sex and take diksha at age of 45 yrs..pls send ur suggestions ..thnk u...

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