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Islam is a Violent Political Party, Not Religion

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#1 May 3, 2013
http://www.islam-watch.org/authors/75-sami/12...

'In view of the fact that the Quran (the holy book of Muslims) contains atrocious passages (see below) which incite to killing mostly innocent people; Muslims and non-Muslims, and in view of the fact that it’s Muslim extremists who are terrorising their societies and the whole world, in particular in Afghanistan, Pakistan, Nigeria, Mali, and in Hamas’s Gaza, one can safely say: there is something wrong with this “religion”.

In addition, wherever Islam rules, also in Iran, Southern Lebanon (where Hizbollah rules) Somalia, and Saudi Arabia, oppression is the rule. There is no freedom of any kind; no religious freedom and no free media. It’s dictatorship per excellence.

It’s extremely illogical and doesn’t make any common sense to call a faith “religion” that preaches hate and murder. Neither politically nor religiously does that make any sense in a civilised world.'

“M.A....Rise”

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#3 May 3, 2013
trasha the old granny: Islam will rule your family

“Fly low, fly fast.”

Since: Apr 07

East Midlands, UK

#4 May 3, 2013
When a large minority are happy for violence and killing in the name of Islam you are absolutely right Trisha.
It's a shame Egyptians won't wake up to the threat of their false religion until after their history has been decimated by the Islamics.

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#5 May 3, 2013
supersonic boom wrote:
When a large minority are happy for violence and killing in the name of Islam you are absolutely right Trisha.
It's a shame Egyptians won't wake up to the threat of their false religion until after their history has been decimated by the Islamics.
Thanks Supersonic, with the majority of Muslims sympathizing with them, they all will regret much.

:(
Proud American

Indianapolis, IN

#6 May 3, 2013
Egyptian_lad wrote:
trasha the old granny: Islam will rule your family
Islam will rule nothing. You can't defeat us, just as you couldn't defeat little old Israel. That tiny country kicked all your Muslim asses. Didn't see that coming, did you. Funny.

“Fly low, fly fast.”

Since: Apr 07

East Midlands, UK

#7 May 4, 2013
That's because Muslims think God is on their side while Israel knows God is on their side.
Dharma bhai

Anonymous Proxy

#8 May 4, 2013
well said
Islam is not a religion
Indians used to call it Arab laws.
Naman

Ørsta, Norway

#9 May 4, 2013
Trisha wrote:
http://www.islam-watch.org/aut hors/75-sami/1290-islam-is-a-v iolent-political-party-not-rel igion.html
'In view of the fact that the Quran (the holy book of Muslims) contains atrocious passages (see below) which incite to killing mostly innocent people; Muslims and non-Muslims, and in view of the fact that it’s Muslim extremists who are terrorising their societies and the whole world, in particular in Afghanistan, Pakistan, Nigeria, Mali, and in Hamas’s Gaza, one can safely say: there is something wrong with this “religion”.
In addition, wherever Islam rules, also in Iran, Southern Lebanon (where Hizbollah rules) Somalia, and Saudi Arabia, oppression is the rule. There is no freedom of any kind; no religious freedom and no free media. It’s dictatorship per excellence.
It’s extremely illogical and doesn’t make any common sense to call a faith “religion” that preaches hate and murder. Neither politically nor religiously does that make any sense in a civilised world.'
And all this because of a book so full of mistaken facts, other errors, contradictions, unclear language, that the book itself - the Quran - proves there is no god behind it.
And a book told by a man - Muhammad - of very dubious moral (he accepted, used, and advised the use of dishonesty (al-Taqiyya, Kitman, etc.), deceit, betrayal, and even the disuse/breaking of oaths (verses 2/225, 5/89, 16/91, 66/2)- and murder, suppression, and terrorism - as working tools. And a man likeing respect, power, and riches (at least for bribes and women)- in spite of what many Muslims claim, he was well off when he died, with estates in Fadang, Medina, and Mecca + a number of wives each with her own small house.
Islam is proud of how Muhammad stole and robbed and cheated and deceived (f.x. the peace delegation from Khaybar). But for some reason they are unable to see that a man of this kind of morality and lust for respect, power, and riches - and women - also could cheat his followers (many self proclaimed "prophets" do so and have a good living).
http://www.1000mistakes.com
Onelawforall

London, UK

#10 May 4, 2013
All religions should be judges upon the doctrine of their god. That would mean Christains worship a pacifist and muslims worship a neo nazi.

“Facts, not fiction”

Since: Apr 07

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#11 May 4, 2013
Onelawforall wrote:
All religions should be judges upon the doctrine of their god. That would mean Christains worship a pacifist and muslims worship a neo nazi.
Last time I checked, christians also worship the god of the old testament. And that god isn't quite as pacifist...

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Since: Apr 13

Wiesbaden

#12 May 4, 2013
Egyptian_lad wrote:
trasha the old granny: Islam will rule your family
You are the one who acknowledges my impression of Islam:

You have to be pretty stupid to remain in that ideology.
Onelawforall

London, UK

#13 May 4, 2013
Marco the atheist wrote:
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Last time I checked, christians also worship the god of the old testament. And that god isn't quite as pacifist...
The reason Christians are called Christian is because they follow the teachings Of Jesus. If they followed the OT they would be Jews.
If you look at the teachings of the OT they and the NT they are complete opposites.
REAL MUSLIm

Madison Heights, MI

#14 May 4, 2013
The False Cult of Islam



Blunders in the Koran...

The Koran teaches that the world is flat. This doctrine is believed by Islamic scholars even today. The Bible revealed that the earth is round in Isaiah 40:22. "It is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth".

It is also clear in the Qur'an that Muhammad and his Allah thought Moses lived at the time on Noah and that Jesus' mother Mary was Moses' and Aaron's sister.

If the Qur'an is a true miracle of God - why is it so filled with historical, scientific and other errors, including simple math? Wouldn't we expect an all-knowing Allah to be better student of history, science and math? Especially if he was getting his information straight from "God Himself"?

Muhammad had obviously heard some Bible stories, but he seems to have got them confused and mixed up when it came out in his prophetic utterances. It is quite apparent that the Qu'ran is simply the product of hearsay and imperfect editing from a plurality of traditions then known to Muhammad.

REAL MUSLIm

Madison Heights, MI

#15 May 4, 2013
Islam offers HELL and that is all

Allah Promised hell for his followers:
Sura 3:185, "Every soul shall have a taste of death: And only on the Day of Judgment shall you be paid your full recompense. Only he who is saved far from the Fire and admitted to the Garden will have attained the object (of Life): For the life of this world is but goods and chattels of deception."

This Suras from Quran very clearly says that after death everyone will go to hell fire then judgment.. When a person went to hell fire then how and why it is possible that he/she can come out from hell fire and go to paradise.. no way.. This verse does not say anything about eternal life. This verse very clearly says that every believer in Allah is tasting death means they did not get the life while Jesus promised eternal life and heaven as we read in

John 10:10 "The thief does not come except to steal, and to kill, and to destroy. I have come that they may have life, and that they may have it more abundantly.

And also every soul is going to hell fire till the day of judgment means they are not reaching heaven. So of course Allah promised hell fire for his believers. There is no chance to go to heaven once you go to hell. Jesus can save you when you are still in this world as He said in John 3:15 "that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have eternal life.

John 3:16 "For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life.

How a person can save himself/herself from hell fire when he/she is already in hell fire? And this verse says that they will be there till the time of Day of Judgment. Do you think a person who is already in hell will get a seat in heaven after judgment? Judgment is a day when people get their sentence and verdict.. and there are no second chances to "make it to heaven" once you have been cast into hell.

And he claims all those who don't follow Islam are going to hell..so according to Muhammad, everyone is going to hell...

"If anyone desires a religion other than Islam (Submission to Allah), Never will it be accepted of him; and in the Hereafter he will be in the ranks of those who have lost."(Qur'an 3:85)



Allah promised hell fire for his followers

Jesus promised heaven for His followers.

Yet the Jihad martyrs are pumped up with grand illusions....

And what reward does Paradise bring to the jihad martyr? He is promised a palace of pearls in which are 70 mansions; inside each mansion are 70 houses and in each house a bed on which are 70 sheets and on each sheet a beautiful virgin. He is assured that he will have the appetite and strength of 100 men for food and sex.

This is the fantastic dream that is fed to Muslim boys from their childhoods. Satan promised Jesus things similar to these and more, when he tempted Jesus in the desert.

To a Christian and any other true son or daughter of the true God, these things the Muslim hopes for are loathsome. To a woman it has to be a hell...
REAL MUSLIm

Madison Heights, MI

#16 May 4, 2013
Muslim activists in the West have been using the tactic of claiming that they worship the same god as the Christians in order to gain legitimacy and acceptance. They have been using the name "God" in place of "Allah" in many translations of the Qur'an.
Muslims DO NOT pray to the same God (Yahweh/ Jehovah of Holy Scripture) of Christians and Jews! Yahweh is transliterated from the Hebrew YHVH.
Before Muhammad the Arabs had 365 gods - one for each day of the year. Muhammad picked Allah (the Arab moon god).
They claim the founder of Islam is a prophet named Muhammad...however Muhammad himself says he is not a prophet and has never personally heard from God...in fact Muhammad who heard voices thought himself it was from evil spirits....his wife encouraged him to change his mind and claim God had spoken to him...
Muhammad was a pedophile, having sexual relations with a 6 year old and 9 year old girl.
Muhammad performed no miracles, spoke no prophecies,
and died like all mortal men
Islam claims the Prophet Muhammad was foretold in the Torah and Bible:
The coming of Prophet Muhammad had been foretold in the Torah. God had said to Moses: "I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee, and I will put My words in his mouth; and he shall speak to them all that I shall command him" Deuteronomy 18:18
This was fulfilled in John 1:45, "We have found him, of whom Moses in the law, and the prophets, did write, Jesus of Nazareth, the son of Joseph." Nope..not Muhammad! It was Jesus of Nazareth!
ooops...
There are more than 100 verses in the Qur'an (Koran) advocating the use of violence to spread Islam. There are exactly 123 verses in the Qur'an about killing and fighting.
Qur'an 9:5, known as "the verse of the sword," declares, "Fight and slay the pagans wherever you find them, and seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem."
The Koran was written 500 years after the Bible and Muhammad couldn't get his history straight? Who was talking to his head? Certainly wasn't the Most High God.
The Moslems consider the Qur’an as uncorrupted. Yet it's historical and scientific blunders are numerous..
Islam teaches that Hagar was Abraham's first wife..the Torah says Hagar was Sarah's handmaiden, or bondwoman.....Hagar was never Abraham's wife..she was a maid...a servant...who had a child for Abraham because Sarah was barren and couldn't conceive. Eventually Sarah did conceive and Hagar was cast into the desert with Ishmael her son.
The Muslims misquote the Bible claiming the "freewoman" wife of Abraham was Hagar when it was Sarah. Hagar was the bondwoman, servant of Sarah. In other words, Sarah was Abraham's wife, Hagar was his mistress. When Isaac was born, Ishmael and Hagar were cast away from Abraham and sent into the desert away from him and Sarah.
Ishmael was promised to be a great nation, and today he is, but the blessings of Abraham and Yahweh's covenant went through Isaac and his seedline. Biblically speaking, the land of Israel rightfully belongs to the Jews because God promised and gave the land to Abraham, the Father of the Jews, and renewed this promise or covenant to Abraham's son Isaac and to Isaac's son Jacob (later renamed Israel by God) who begat twelve sons from whom the twelve tribes of Israel was established as a nation as described in Genesis 12:1-3; 17:7,8 and 17:19-21.

Contd
REAL MUSLIm

Madison Heights, MI

#17 May 4, 2013
The state of Israel is a constant reminder to the world that the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob is alive and that one billion Arabs can't keep them from possessing their promised land.
Was Jesus the ONLY Begotten Son of God? Yes. "For God so loved the world that He gave HIS ONLY Begotten Son, that whosoever believeth IN HIM should not perish, but have everlasting life - John 3:16...not through Muhammad, it was Jesus, Yahushua.
Did Jesus die on the cross? Yes. Matthew chapters 27&28 talk about his death and resurrection. Jesus defeated death when he arose from the grave 3 days later. Muhammad's tomb still holds his body, Jesus' does not! His tomb is empty!
Islam misquotes and teaches that Muhammad was prophesied..The Bible says,
"But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you" (John 14:26). Not Muhammad..the Holy Ghost..Holy Spirit..
"For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus" (I Tim. 2:5).

“Facts, not fiction”

Since: Apr 07

Earth

#18 May 4, 2013
Onelawforall wrote:
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The reason Christians are called Christian is because they follow the teachings Of Jesus. If they followed the OT they would be Jews.
If you look at the teachings of the OT they and the NT they are complete opposites.
Indeed, the teachings are often complete opposites. But the god in both is the same.

And the claim that christians follow the teachings of Jesus does not fit with the behavior of many christians these days. For example, when you ask a christian what is wrong with homosexuality, you will get references to the OT. Creationism, whether old or young earth, comes directly from the OT (the NT does not discuss this at all).

In other words, christians do follow the OT on many aspects.
Onelawforall

London, UK

#19 May 5, 2013
Marco the atheist wrote:
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Indeed, the teachings are often complete opposites. But the god in both is the same.
And the claim that christians follow the teachings of Jesus does not fit with the behavior of many christians these days. For example, when you ask a christian what is wrong with homosexuality, you will get references to the OT. Creationism, whether old or young earth, comes directly from the OT (the NT does not discuss this at all).
In other words, christians do follow the OT on many aspects.
They are so opposed that you wonder how they could be the same god. The reason being that there is no god, Allah or Jehovah. He is an invention and what you have are different ideologies. Judaism have been created for political purposes to gain land & supremacy, Islam is a cheap imitation of Judaism whereas the teachings of Jesus are more philosophical and about how one should live one's life.
I do not deny that people have used the teachings of Jesus for political puroposes but they are so opposed to political power that they have to draw on the OT to justify their non Christian actions.

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Since: Apr 07

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#20 May 5, 2013
Onelawforall wrote:
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I do not deny that people have used the teachings of Jesus for political puroposes but they are so opposed to political power that they have to draw on the OT to justify their non Christian actions.
Slight problem here: who are we, non-christians, to say how christians should interpret their scripture?
Onelawforall

London, UK

#21 May 5, 2013
Marco the atheist wrote:
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Slight problem here: who are we, non-christians, to say how christians should interpret their scripture?
Most Christians I meet regard the NT as an evolution of the OT. The OT is there as a pointer. Of course there are those who disagree but that is fine. I interpret it my way. You interpret it your way. That is the beauty of debate. Who wants to live in a world where there is only one interpretation. That is fascism or Islam.

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