Was Muhammad(PBUH) a pedophile?

Was Muhammad(PBUH) a pedophile?

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“Terrorism has no religion!”

Since: Jul 09

Saint Catharines, Canada

#1 Jul 27, 2009
A majority of the world believes that Muhammad(PBUH) was a pedophile. His marriage with Aisha(RA) at age 9 makes him a pedophile. Well I'll prove to you that, that's 100% wrong.

First of all, Aisha's parents were the ones who married her to Muhammad. No Muslim or even pagan objected to the marriage because it was widely practiced. Child brides as young as 8 were common among the Byzantine emperors and nobility! Basically, it was the norm of Muhammad's era.

Aisha was also engaged to a man named Jober before prophet Muhammad. Since the engagement was broken, it would be quite crazy to say that Aisha was engaged to Jober before 7 years old.

Our standard today would mean that Muhammad was a child molester BUT he lived in a different time. People were different back then, were much larger and grew faster. Muhammad's footprint which we still have today proves that.

Lastly, let’s look at the definition of a pedophile. An adult who is sexually attracted to children. It would be the most illogical statement to say that Muhammad was a pedophile. Wouldn’t it make sense for him to be marrying all children if he was a pedophile? He married women who were older, younger or the same age as him.

So to call Prophet Muhammad a pedophile for marrying a girl that was OFFERED TO HIM by her parents and was accepted by all of the people back then including the enemies of Islam, the pagans, is quite absurd.

Since: Jul 09

Melbourne

#2 Jul 27, 2009
Muhammad is "uswa hasana" (the best example of conduct) for Muslims to follow. He set the example of marrying children and having sex with them. Granted this is not fard, but it is Sunnah. Muslims, would you be willing to give your young daughter to a much older man who is following the prophet's Sunnah?
http://www.wikiislam.com/wiki/Uswa_Hasana
http://www.wikiislam.com/wiki/Qur%27an,_Hadit...

Furthermore, you cannot claim cultural relativism, even IF Muhammad were not Uswa Hasana, because Allah endorses paedophilia in the Quran also:
http://www.wikiislam.com/wiki/Pedophilia_in_t...

So, if the Quran is a book for all time, then the permission to marry and have sex with pre-pubescent females is relevant to this day:
http://www.wikiislam.com/wiki/Islam_and_Pedop...
http://www.wikiislam.com/wiki/Videos_on_Islam...

Since: Jul 09

Melbourne

#3 Jul 27, 2009
MsDefendIslam wrote:
Lastly, let’s look at the definition of a pedophile. An adult who is sexually attracted to children.
[/quote]
How about we look at an agree apon definition of paedophilia - not one you just made up:
http://www.wikiislam.com/wiki/Aisha%27s_Age_o...
There from the DSM IV ^

The fact of the matter is that Muhammad had sex with a child - it doesn't matter if he had sex with 1 or 100 he is still a pedophile. What you are saying is like saying if you murder only one person you're not a murderer. Surely you can see the flaw in that?

[QUOTE who="MsDefendIslam"]
Wouldn’t it make sense for him to be marrying all children if he was a pedophile?
[/quote]
No, not all pedophile's are the exclusive type - in fact Muhammad fits the definition of regressive pedophile better. If you have sex with even one child (provided you are a certain age older) then you are a pedophile, full stop.

[QUOTE who="MsDefendIslam"]
He married women who were older, younger or the same age as him.
[/quote]
Muhammad NEVER married a woman who was the same age as him. In fact the only 2 wives he had that I can think of that were older than teenage years (or younger) were Sawda (whom he wanted to divorce) and Khadija (who he worked for until she died).

[QUOTE who="MsDefendIslam"]
So to call Prophet Muhammad a pedophile for marrying a girl that was OFFERED TO HIM by her parents and was accepted by all of the people back then including the enemies of Islam, the pagans, is quite absurd.
Wow, I wonder why Warren Jeffs doesn't use that defence.
debunker

United States

#4 Jul 27, 2009
MsDefendIslam wrote:
A majority of the world believes that Muhammad(PBUH) was a pedophile. His marriage with Aisha(RA) at age 9 makes him a pedophile. Well I'll prove to you that, that's 100% wrong.
First of all, Aisha's parents were the ones who married her to Muhammad. No Muslim or even pagan objected to the marriage because it was widely practiced. Child brides as young as 8 were common among the Byzantine emperors and nobility! Basically, it was the norm of Muhammad's era.
Aisha was also engaged to a man named Jober before prophet Muhammad. Since the engagement was broken, it would be quite crazy to say that Aisha was engaged to Jober before 7 years old.
Our standard today would mean that Muhammad was a child molester BUT he lived in a different time. People were different back then, were much larger and grew faster. Muhammad's footprint which we still have today proves that.
Lastly, let’s look at the definition of a pedophile. An adult who is sexually attracted to children. It would be the most illogical statement to say that Muhammad was a pedophile. Wouldn’t it make sense for him to be marrying all children if he was a pedophile? He married women who were older, younger or the same age as him.
So to call Prophet Muhammad a pedophile for marrying a girl that was OFFERED TO HIM by her parents and was accepted by all of the people back then including the enemies of Islam, the pagans, is quite absurd.
aren't there enough threads on this subject?
Native

Greens Fork, IN

#5 Jul 27, 2009
Msdefend
A pediophiler is one who likes sex with children and he meets that definition because he married her at 6 according to hadiths and had sex with her at 9 which makes her a CHILD not an adult.
Does NOT matter who gave her away its WRONG I do NOT care who was doing it ITS WRONG and he is in hell today paying for his sick sexual perversion against a child
MsDefendIslam wrote:
A majority of the world believes that Muhammad(PBUH) was a pedophile. His marriage with Aisha(RA) at age 9 makes him a pedophile. Well I'll prove to you that, that's 100% wrong.
First of all, Aisha's parents were the ones who married her to Muhammad. No Muslim or even pagan objected to the marriage because it was widely practiced. Child brides as young as 8 were common among the Byzantine emperors and nobility! Basically, it was the norm of Muhammad's era.
Aisha was also engaged to a man named Jober before prophet Muhammad. Since the engagement was broken, it would be quite crazy to say that Aisha was engaged to Jober before 7 years old.
Our standard today would mean that Muhammad was a child molester BUT he lived in a different time. People were different back then, were much larger and grew faster. Muhammad's footprint which we still have today proves that.
Lastly, let’s look at the definition of a pedophile. An adult who is sexually attracted to children. It would be the most illogical statement to say that Muhammad was a pedophile. Wouldn’t it make sense for him to be marrying all children if he was a pedophile? He married women who were older, younger or the same age as him.
So to call Prophet Muhammad a pedophile for marrying a girl that was OFFERED TO HIM by her parents and was accepted by all of the people back then including the enemies of Islam, the pagans, is quite absurd.
Amp man

Elkader, IA

#6 Jul 27, 2009
MsDefendIslam wrote:
A majority of the world believes that Muhammad(PBUH) was a pedophile. His marriage with Aisha(RA) at age 9 makes him a pedophile. Well I'll prove to you that, that's 100% wrong.
First of all, Aisha's parents were the ones who married her to Muhammad. No Muslim or even pagan objected to the marriage because it was widely practiced. Child brides as young as 8 were common among the Byzantine emperors and nobility! Basically, it was the norm of Muhammad's era.
Aisha was also engaged to a man named Jober before prophet Muhammad. Since the engagement was broken, it would be quite crazy to say that Aisha was engaged to Jober before 7 years old.
Our standard today would mean that Muhammad was a child molester BUT he lived in a different time. People were different back then, were much larger and grew faster. Muhammad's footprint which we still have today proves that.
Lastly, let’s look at the definition of a pedophile. An adult who is sexually attracted to children. It would be the most illogical statement to say that Muhammad was a pedophile. Wouldn’t it make sense for him to be marrying all children if he was a pedophile? He married women who were older, younger or the same age as him.
So to call Prophet Muhammad a pedophile for marrying a girl that was OFFERED TO HIM by her parents and was accepted by all of the people back then including the enemies of Islam, the pagans, is quite absurd.
Not only was muhammad a child molesting pervert
he was also a caravan thief and murdering terrorist.you muslim savages are brainwashed
beasts even to follow such vermin like muhammad..
That is why islam and muslims are hated world wide.Your evil quran dictated by the pig muhammad
comands you subhuman beasts to murder in his name.
debunker

United States

#7 Jul 27, 2009
MsDefendIslam wrote:
A majority of the world believes that Muhammad(PBUH) was a pedophile. His marriage with Aisha(RA) at age 9 makes him a pedophile. Well I'll prove to you that, that's 100% wrong.
First of all, Aisha's parents were the ones who married her to Muhammad. No Muslim or even pagan objected to the marriage because it was widely practiced. Child brides as young as 8 were common among the Byzantine emperors and nobility! Basically, it was the norm of Muhammad's era.
Aisha was also engaged to a man named Jober before prophet Muhammad. Since the engagement was broken, it would be quite crazy to say that Aisha was engaged to Jober before 7 years old.
Our standard today would mean that Muhammad was a child molester BUT he lived in a different time. People were different back then, were much larger and grew faster. Muhammad's footprint which we still have today proves that.
Lastly, let’s look at the definition of a pedophile. An adult who is sexually attracted to children. It would be the most illogical statement to say that Muhammad was a pedophile. Wouldn’t it make sense for him to be marrying all children if he was a pedophile? He married women who were older, younger or the same age as him.
So to call Prophet Muhammad a pedophile for marrying a girl that was OFFERED TO HIM by her parents and was accepted by all of the people back then including the enemies of Islam, the pagans, is quite absurd.
granted, in that period of time, it was acceptible behavior.

however, more then a millinium has past and muslim men still have the hots for prepubesant flesh and that's pretty sick, wouldn't you agree?

“No paseran!”

Since: Feb 08

Location hidden

#8 Jul 27, 2009
MsDefendIslam you say that aisha was given to muhammad by her parents but abu bakr her father did not seem too happy to give his 6 years old daughter to a 51 years old man! You can see that it was muhammad that asked her in marriage and who could refude the prophet whatever he wanted

Volume 7, Book 62, Number 18:
Narrated 'Ursa: The Prophet asked Abu Bakr for 'Aisha's hand in marriage. Abu Bakr said "But I am your brother." The Prophet said, "You are my brother in Allah's religion and His Book, but she (Aisha) is lawful for me to marry."

This is also in view that muhammad had forbidden marrying foster daughters or foster nieces:

Volume 7, Book 62, Number 37: Narrated Ibn 'Abbas:
It was said to the Prophet, "Won't you marry the daughter of Hamza?" He said, "She is my foster niece

muhammad even said that allah had decreed his marriage to aisha:

Sahih Bukhari 9.140 Narrated 'Aisha: Allah's Apostle said to me, "You were shown to me twice (in my dream) before I married you. I saw an angel carrying you in a silken piece of cloth, and I said to him,'Uncover (her),' and behold, it was you. I said (to myself),'If this is from Allah, then it must happen.

muhammad according to the genuine hadiths was also fond of toddlers:

Ibn Ishaq: Suhayli, 2.79: In the riwaya of Yunus Ibn Ishaq recorded that the apostle saw her (Ummuxl-Fadl) when she was baby crawling before him and said, xIf she grows up and I am still alive I will marry her.x (ref.10, p. 311)

Muhammad saw Um Habiba the daughter of Abbas while she was fatim (age of nursing) and he said, "If she grows up while I am still alive, I will marry her." (Musnad Ahmad, Number 25636)

http://www.islamnothanks.com/islamparadise.ht...

“No paseran!”

Since: Feb 08

Location hidden

#9 Jul 27, 2009
sleeping with 4 years old in arabia

Ex Muslim

Santa Clara, CA

#10 Jul 28, 2009
Sanitarium wrote:
Muhammad is "uswa hasana" (the best example of conduct) for Muslims to follow. He set the example of marrying children and having sex with them. Granted this is not fard, but it is Sunnah. Muslims, would you be willing to give your young daughter to a much older man who is following the prophet's Sunnah?
http://www.wikiislam.com/wiki/Uswa_Hasana
http://www.wikiislam.com/wiki/Qur%27an,_Hadit...
Furthermore, you cannot claim cultural relativism, even IF Muhammad were not Uswa Hasana, because Allah endorses paedophilia in the Quran also:
http://www.wikiislam.com/wiki/Pedophilia_in_t...
So, if the Quran is a book for all time, then the permission to marry and have sex with pre-pubescent females is relevant to this day:
http://www.wikiislam.com/wiki/Islam_and_Pedop...
http://www.wikiislam.com/wiki/Videos_on_Islam...
best example? Haha he was an http://www.beholdthebeast.com/islam__quran_an...
Ex Muslim

Santa Clara, CA

#11 Jul 28, 2009
Ooops wrong pasting.... Muhammad was an Abuser, Arsonist, Adulterer, Amputator, Assassin, Arrogant, Avenger, Bad, Bandit, Barbarian, Bloodthirsty, Belligerent, Brutal, Briber, Beastly, Bully, Cult leader, Cruel, Callous, Criminal, Carnal, Cheater, Charlatan, Cretin, Coward, Crackpot, Con-artist, Conqueror, Child-molester, Dangerous, Demoniac, Deranged, Enslaver, Evil, Ethnic cleanser, Filthy, Fool, Fraud, Greedy, Gory, Hatemonger, Highway robber, Heinous, Hypocrite, Homicidal, Immoral, Inhuman, Impotent, Ignorant, Illiterate, Intruder, Insane, Insidious, Jackass, Killer, Kidnapper, Liar, Libertine, Looter, Lecher, Lazy, Lewd, Misogynist, Molester, Monstrous, Megalomaniac, Manic, Mad man, Murderer, Materialistic, Meat-eater, Misanthropic, Mass murderer, Mafia Don, Narcissist, Opportunistic, Pedophile, Prophet Pretender, Plagiarist, Polygamist, Plunderer, Pervert, Profiteer, Poop, Possessive, Paranoid, Pillager, Pimp, Psychopath, Proud, Quack, Raider, Rapist, Revengeful, Robber, Sadist, Slave-owner, Slave-master, Slave-trades, Slave-maker, Spendthrift, Slave seller, Savage, Slave buyer, Smelly, Sexist, Sex maniac, Stupid, Superstitious, Schizophrenic, Swindler, Terrorist, Torturer, Tormenter, Tyrant, Thief, Thug, Unclean, Unfair, Vengeful, Violent, Vile, Voyeur, Warlord, Warmonger, Womanizer, Wicked, Whoremonger, Xenophobic, Yucky, Zealot insidious... Haha

Since: Jul 09

Melbourne

#13 Jul 28, 2009
HAHAHAHAH ^ very good!(darn I can't think of anymore I think you got 'em all)
bmz

Since: Mar 08

Location hidden

#14 Jul 28, 2009
MsDefendIslam,

Thank you for bringing up this topic.

However, I must say that I disagree with you when you said, "A majority of the world believes that Muhammad(PBUH) was a pedophile."

The majority does not believe that. This accusation is made by idiots, mostly Jesus freaks and evangelists and some megalomaniacs suffering from Severe Personality Order, also known as NPD (Narcissistic Personality Order.

The most notorious miserable bastards and Jesus freaks, who say that are Ali Sina of FFI and his goons, Sam Shamoun, Robert Spencer, Silas and many others.

All prophets have been accused by their haters. Even Jesus was accused by Mark, the gospel writer, in his secret gospel, of being a womaniser, a paedophile, a Homo and Mark thought he sodomised little boys.

A young man ran naked, after Jesus was arrested. Was Jesus arrested for sodomising the boy? I don't know.

Now these goons do not know that a paedophile does not stop at one.

Paedophilia is a Western man's disease.

It is quite common in Australia, Germany, Austria, America, Holland, Britain and other European countries and a paedophile cannot be cured.

Now, the freak who makes such a false accusation does not know or pretends not to know that a paedophile person starts paedophilia at the age of 15-16 and goes for children who are 6 years or more, younger than he is.

And the person remains a paedophile for life.

All is based on a rotten hadith or two, which come from an idiot known as Ibn Hisham, which is not reliable.

As I have written elsewhere to some posters, that Hadith is something like the Christians' New Testament.

Both contain lots of junk and stuff and are not reliable.

There is nothing to show from the History and the culture of Arabs to show that Arabs gave their little daughters to old men.

If it were really true, then Sahabas (companions) also would have been having little girls.

It would also have become a sunnah and all of us would be screwing little girls. LMAO

Now, we do not have anything from the prophet himself talking about Ayesha's age, we have nothing from her father, his companions and all we have is a silly asshole's comment that she was betrothed at six and taken to bed at nine.

What the Jesus freaks and other alleged ex-Muslim sickos
don't realise that Qur'aan clearly said that the girls could be married when they had reached an age of maturity, adulthood and when one could find that they could distinguish between right and wrong.

Prophet's own daughter was married to Ali when she was about eighteen.

People use to bring little children to Jesus and he used to make them sit in his lap, stroke and kiss them. That did not make him a paedophile but such freaks would consider him a paedophile.

So, you do not have to defend anything.

The sickos and sexual perverts like Ali Sina of FFI, his Christian writers of WikiIslam, Robert Spencer, Sam Shamoun and others, can't think positively and all they think is that others are and were paedophiles like them.

Salaams
BMZ

“There Is One Truth! Jesus!”

Since: Jan 09

Location hidden

#15 Jul 28, 2009
Why is there so much pedophilia practiced among Muslims? Because Mohammad is their example. Mohammad was a thief, serial killer, adulterer, he slept with his dead aunt, a terrorist, a liar, and a false prophet. And of course, he was also a pedophile.
bmz

Since: Mar 08

Location hidden

#16 Jul 28, 2009
Xcaliber wrote:
Why is there so much pedophilia practiced among Muslims? Because Mohammad is their example. Mohammad was a thief, serial killer, adulterer, he slept with his dead aunt, a terrorist, a liar, and a false prophet. And of course, he was also a pedophile.
You did not read my post?

Paedophilia is a Westerner's, specially a Christian man's disease.

LMAO

BMZ
Native

Greens Fork, IN

#17 Jul 28, 2009
BMZ
muslims have been pediophilers since the time of muhammed. TODAY in the muslim countries grown men age 40 are allowed to marry little 6 yr olds and have sex with them SICK BASTARDS you muslims are and you talk about the west? YOU MUSLIMS ARE SICK PERVERTS and then you have the nerve to point the finger when you yourselves are doing it
bmz wrote:
<quoted text>
You did not read my post?
Paedophilia is a Westerner's, specially a Christian man's disease.
LMAO
BMZ
Islam is Evil

Alexandra, Australia

#18 Jul 28, 2009
bmz wrote:
<quoted text>
You did not read my post?
Paedophilia is a Westerner's, specially a Christian man's disease.
LMAO
BMZ
You sound like you've been fiddled with yourself. Paedophilia is rampant amongst muz communities. It's just hushed up in your pathetic shame culture. Like any muz scum u blame everone else. Looking in the mirror is shameful for muslims yes? It just exposes the rot. And yes mo was a disgusting pedo.
Eddie

Surbiton, UK

#19 Jul 28, 2009
MsDefendIslam wrote:
A majority of the world believes that Muhammad(PBUH) was a pedophile. His marriage with Aisha(RA) at age 9 makes him a pedophile. Well I'll prove to you that, that's 100% wrong.
First of all, Aisha's parents were the ones who married her to Muhammad. No Muslim or even pagan objected to the marriage because it was widely practiced. Child brides as young as 8 were common among the Byzantine emperors and nobility! Basically, it was the norm of Muhammad's era.
Aisha was also engaged to a man named Jober before prophet Muhammad. Since the engagement was broken, it would be quite crazy to say that Aisha was engaged to Jober before 7 years old.
Our standard today would mean that Muhammad was a child molester BUT he lived in a different time. People were different back then, were much larger and grew faster. Muhammad's footprint which we still have today proves that.
Lastly, let’s look at the definition of a pedophile. An adult who is sexually attracted to children. It would be the most illogical statement to say that Muhammad was a pedophile. Wouldn’t it make sense for him to be marrying all children if he was a pedophile? He married women who were older, younger or the same age as him.
So to call Prophet Muhammad a pedophile for marrying a girl that was OFFERED TO HIM by her parents and was accepted by all of the people back then including the enemies of Islam, the pagans, is quite absurd.
Then Allah cannot be a god as he did not convey a universal religion valid for all time but only one that applied to a primitive people who accepted pedophilia as normal.
Xcaliber

Somerset, NJ

#20 Jul 28, 2009
bmz wrote:
<quoted text>
You did not read my post?
Paedophilia is a Westerner's, specially a Christian man's disease.
LMAO
BMZ
I don't read your crap except for entertainment purposes.

The west does not condone sex with children. In fact, pedophilia is illegal in the west. This is not the case in Muslim countries where Muslim imams and scholars teach that Islam allows marriage to children and sex with infants. If you were honest you would admit as much. However, like most Muslims, you are delusional and a liar.
george whyte

Salisbury, UK

#21 Jul 28, 2009
Islamic Cleric Arrested over Marriage to 12-Year-Old...

Indonesian police have again arrested Muslim cleric, Pujiono Cahyono Widianto, in a continuing controversy over his marriage to a 12-year-old girl. Pujiono was rearrested for failing to cooperate following his marriage to Lutfiana Ulfa.

The police detained 44 year-old Syech Puji - who is also the head of an Islamic boarding school - along with his two employees, Dwi and Slamet, who were suspected to have damaged the police officers' cars during the arrest.

Police were also trying to determine Ulfa's whereabouts. Instead they brought in Ulfa's father, Suroso, for further questioning.

The police chief of the city of Semarang, Comr. Edward Syah Pernong, demanded Syech Puji's first wife and his lawyer Sinto Ariwibawa Umi Hani present Ulfa during the witness examination at the office.

In March, the police questioned the wealthy Muslim cleric who had married Ulfa seven months earlier.

The police then arrested him but later granted him probation at his lawyers request. Syech Puji, however, did not report to the police once a week as required by the officers.

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