*? Are muslims idol worshipers? *

*? Are muslims idol worshipers? *

Created by Paul WV on Jun 6, 2012

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Paul WV

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#1 Jun 6, 2012
muslims the world over bow their heads to the ground towards a black rock in mecca. According to timeten this is idolatry.

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#2 Jun 6, 2012
They don't pray to the rock, like you pray to a carved rock of Jesus Mary and Joseph, Peter and Paul and many others. and what was your Man god called.
Hint..... The Rock?

Who is "the rock"? Peter or Jesus?
http://www.wordoftruthradio.com/questions/47....
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1 Peter 2
7Unto you therefore which believe he is precious: but unto them which be disobedient, the stone which the builders disallowed, the same is made the head of the corner,

8And a stone of stumbling, and a rock of offence, even to them which stumble at the word, being disobedient: whereunto also they were appointed.
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And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter - The word "Peter," in Greek, means "a rock." It was given to Simon by Christ when he called him to be a disciple, John 1:42

Cephas is a Syriac word, meaning the same as Peter - a rock, or stone.

Seems you worship a stone/rock of your own eh?
Paul WV

United States

#3 Jun 6, 2012
The black stone is 7 or 8 pieces so muslims believe in more than one god; at least 7 or 8.

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#4 Jun 6, 2012
Go kiss the popes ring/stone, and praise him as the Most pious/ Holy Father...
http://www.michaeljournal.org/JP25.HTM
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And yet you ignore Jesus's words completely..
Matthew 23:9
And you should not call yourselves “Father”, in the earth, for one is your Father who is in Heaven.
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Now give me your twisted excuse for calling a man the most Holy Father..
george whyte

Grimsby, UK

#5 Jun 6, 2012
Bukhari:V4B53N386 "Our Prophet, the Messenger of our Lord, ordered us to fight you till you worship Allah alone or pay us the Jizyah tribute tax in submission. Our Prophet has informed us that our Lord says:'Whoever amongst us is killed as a martyr shall go to Paradise to lead such a luxurious life as he has never seen, and whoever survives shall become your master.'"
Paul WV

United States

#6 Jun 6, 2012
Timesten wrote:
Go kiss the popes ring/stone, and praise him as the Most pious/ Holy Father...
http://www.michaeljournal.org/JP25.HTM
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And yet you ignore Jesus's words completely..
Matthew 23:9
And you should not call yourselves “Father”, in the earth, for one is your Father who is in Heaven.
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Now give me your twisted excuse for calling a man the most Holy Father..
The black stone in mecca is one yet 7 or 8.
Paul WV

United States

#7 Jun 6, 2012
Timesten wrote:
Go kiss the popes ring/stone, and praise him as the Most pious/ Holy Father...
http://www.michaeljournal.org/JP25.HTM
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And yet you ignore Jesus's words completely..
Matthew 23:9
And you should not call yourselves “Father”, in the earth, for one is your Father who is in Heaven.
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Now give me your twisted excuse for calling a man the most Holy Father..
Is not the koran an idol for the way muslims worship it? They kill for it. No one would kill for just a book, but they would for an idol.

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#8 Jun 6, 2012
You ignored post #4
Paul WV

United States

#10 Jun 6, 2012
Timesten wrote:
Go kiss the popes ring/stone, and praise him as the Most pious/ Holy Father...
http://www.michaeljournal.org/JP25.HTM
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And yet you ignore Jesus's words completely..
Matthew 23:9
And you should not call yourselves “Father”, in the earth, for one is your Father who is in Heaven.
.
Now give me your twisted excuse for calling a man the most Holy Father..
The Holy Bible must be understood as it was meant and not with some childish reading of it.

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#11 Jun 6, 2012
Paul WV wrote:
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The Holy Bible must be understood as it was meant and not with some childish reading of it.
Well you tell me what Jesus was referring to when he said:
"And call no man here on earth Father, for only God should be called Father"
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Satan said. I will gather more souls and place my throne above the Most Highs.
https://www.google.com/search...
Ashington

Toronto, Canada

#12 Jun 6, 2012
Timsten-
You go and kiss the vagina shapped stone in the Kaba,thinking that you are doing a sex act. In fact,Mohamed said the sex act with your wife is worship to allah.
Muslims protest at any allegation that the Kaaba represents an idol through or with the help of which they worship Allah. They insist that they worship only Allah and pray directly to Allah. Which is why they find it impossible to even sing national antems of Werstern countreis because that would be tantamount for them to worshiping something other than Allah.
Therefore, we cannot ignore the basic question,“What is worship?” It would seem that worship, according to Islam, is the process taught by Mohammad which Muslims are expected to perform 5 times a day. However, it would surprise the reader to know that Mohammad himself was quoted in a hadidth to imply that worship is not merely an external form, its essence is indeed the internal state of mind. Mohammad went on to say that if the approach is right, even sex with one’s wife is worship and would be rewarded by Allah. This was said when his companions asked "How are we going to be rewarded for doing something we enjoy very much?" The Prophet asked them, "Suppose you satisfy your desires illegally, don't you think you will be punished for that?" They replied, "Yes." "So," he said, "by satisfying it legally with your wives, you are rewarded for it." The hadith or its commentary concludes,“This means, they - legitimate sexual intercourse - are acts of worship.”
While I am at present unable to vouch for the genuineness of the Hadith, but if true, it goes on to prove that for Mohammad the very act of living legitimately (as instructed by the Quran) is worship. It being so, and the Kaaba being the centre of the Hajj rituals, there is little doubt that kissing the blackstone embedded in the Kaaba forms a part of Islamic worship - idol worship, pure and simple.
george whyte

Grimsby, UK

#13 Jun 6, 2012
Qur'an:4:75 "What reason have you that you should not fight in Allah's Cause?"

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#14 Jun 6, 2012
george whyte wrote:
Qur'an:4:75 "What reason have you that you should not fight in Allah's Cause?"
Yes What reason? Hmmmm can't think of a single one...
george whyte

Grimsby, UK

#15 Jun 6, 2012
Qur'an:4:84 "Then fight (Muhammad) in Allah's Cause. Incite the believers to fight with you."

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#16 Jun 6, 2012
george whyte wrote:
Qur'an:4:84 "Then fight (Muhammad) in Allah's Cause. Incite the believers to fight with you."
Sort of like the 'Hootrah' Of the Marines eh?
Or the sport of the kill...
http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/islam/TFJ...

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#17 Jun 6, 2012
Paul WV wrote:
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Is not
You ignored post #4
george whyte

Grimsby, UK

#18 Jun 6, 2012
Qur'an:4:94 "Believers, when you go abroad to fight wars in Allah's Cause, investigate carefully, and say not to anyone who greets you:'You are not a believer!' Coveting the chance profits of this life (so that you may despoil him). With Allah are plenteous spoils and booty."

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#19 Jun 6, 2012
And David has his booty too...

Numbers 31:17-18

17 Now kill all the boys. And kill every woman who has slept with a man, 18 but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man.
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Numbers 31:35-40
32 The plunder remaining from the spoils that the soldiers took was 675,000 sheep, 33 72,000 cattle, 34 61,000 donkeys 35 and 32,000 women who had never slept with a man.

36 The half share of those who fought in the battle was:
337,500 sheep, 37 of which the tribute for the LORD was 675;

38 36,000 cattle, of which the tribute for the LORD was 72;

39 30,500 donkeys, of which the tribute for the LORD was 61;

40 16,000 people, of which the tribute for the LORD was 32

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#21 Jun 6, 2012
Paul WV wrote:
muslims the world over bow their heads to the ground towards a black rock in mecca. According to timeten this is idolatry.
Not a surprise.
Jesus is

Rowville, Australia

#22 Jun 7, 2012
Timesten wrote:
They don't pray to the rock, like you pray to a carved rock of Jesus Mary and Joseph, Peter and Paul and many others.
PHOTO OF MUSLIMS NOT PRAYING TO A ROCK:
http://www.slideshare.net/1950/kaaba-beautifu...

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