Scientific errors in the Koran
kyuubianist

Saudi Arabia

#173 Jun 11, 2008
Twazzer1 wrote:
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The quran contains so much scientific information that the Muslims are world leaders in science today.
Oh wait, no they're not, they haven't produced any useful science in the past 600 years.
My bad, sorry
dude... did ya know that the foundation of calendar is in arab? they made the calenar. we are using it now and till the last day of the earth. and the when the sun wil rise from the west is a sign that the judgment day is comin nearer and nearer. their lots of men that are gays, turnin themselves into good lookin girls. food start to get expensive. ppl will fight for food. petrol is runnin out, many things will go back like in the past.

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Since: Mar 07

Location hidden

#174 Jun 11, 2008
kyuubianist wrote:
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dude... did ya know that the foundation of calendar is in arab? they made the calenar. we are using it now and till the last day of the earth. and the when the sun wil rise from the west is a sign that the judgment day is comin nearer and nearer. their lots of men that are gays, turnin themselves into good lookin girls. food start to get expensive. ppl will fight for food. petrol is runnin out, many things will go back like in the past.
The calendar we use is the Gregorian calendar, a modification of the Julian calendar of Egyptian origin.

Julian Calendar
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julian_calendar

The Islamic calendar is just the old lunar calendar with the compensating thirteenth month removed and thus is 11 days short of a solar year. It is only useful for religious purposes.

For farming purposes Islamic countries have long used either the Egyptian or Iranian calendar which have 365 days plus a leap year every fourth year.

Islamic Calendar
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_calendar
Egyptian calendar
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Egyptian_calenda...

“Cherish all life”

Since: Dec 07

Delhi

#175 Jun 11, 2008
I have been reading the Quran for the past 10 years for scientific accuracy and errancy. All this I began because my fellow Muslims claimed so many things being mentioned in it far ahead of its time.

I am surprised and shocked to know that most of their claims are silly, cooked up and irrational. In fact such claims can be made from many sacred and non-sacred works written before the Quran. This I say based on my interest in reading other scriptures and literary works of different ancient civilizations.

Muslims are biased in their judgement when it comes to Quran. The same standard is not applied when they compare it with another work. In cricket the benefit of doubt always goes in favour of Quran. While comparing the Quran with another, the benefit of doubt is always given to the Quran. If there is anything unexplainable found in Quran, the standard reply is "Allah knows best". Who are we to question what he has said or prescribed!!! What a logic!!

“Cherish all life”

Since: Dec 07

Delhi

#176 Jun 11, 2008
"In cricket the benefit of doubt always goes in favour of Quran"

Sorry, it should read....
"In cricket the benefit of doubt always goes in favour of BATSMAN"

“Facts, not fiction”

Since: Apr 07

Earth

#177 Jun 12, 2008
kyuubianist wrote:
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dude... did ya know that the foundation of calendar is in arab?
Dude, what are you smoking? The Egyptians already had a reasonably functional calendar in 4000 BCE, and the solar calendar (which almost all countries use) was 'invented' by the romans during the times of Julius Caesar.
spa

Ernakulam, India

#178 Jun 15, 2008
Mansoor wrote:
baby,there is no scientific error in Quran.
tru your best
Mansoor ia a crack .Read daniel pipes to get his ideas
spa

Ernakulam, India

#179 Jun 15, 2008
NVK Ashraf wrote:
I have been reading the Quran for the past 10 years for scientific accuracy and errancy. All this I began because my fellow Muslims claimed so many things being mentioned in it far ahead of its time.
I am surprised and shocked to know that most of their claims are silly, cooked up and irrational. In fact such claims can be made from many sacred and non-sacred works written before the Quran. This I say based on my interest in reading other scriptures and literary works of different ancient civilizations.
Muslims are biased in their judgement when it comes to Quran. The same standard is not applied when they compare it with another work. In cricket the benefit of doubt always goes in favour of Quran. While comparing the Quran with another, the benefit of doubt is always given to the Quran. If there is anything unexplainable found in Quran, the standard reply is "Allah knows best". Who are we to question what he has said or prescribed!!! What a logic!!
Yes man well said!! Koran and its interpretations make people more and more hypocrats
Ferrari Enzo

Jersey City, NJ

#180 Jun 22, 2008
Satanic verses from the Unholy Qur'an...

Unholy Qur'an 8:7
"Allah wished to confirm the truth by His words:'Wipe the infidels out to the last.'"

Unholy Qur'an 8:39
"So, fight them till all opposition ends and the only religion is Islam."

Unholy Qur'an 9:5
"When the sacred forbidden months for fighting are past, fight and kill disbelievers wherever you find them, take them captive, beleaguer them, and lie in wait and ambush them using every stratagem of war."

http://prophetofdoom.net/Islamic_Quotes_War.I...
Ferrari Enzo

Jersey City, NJ

#181 Jun 22, 2008
More Satanic verses from the Unholy Qur'an...

Unholy Qur'an 47:4
"When you clash with unbelieving Infidels in battle, strike and overpower them. At length, when you have thoroughly subdued them, make them prisoners in bondage until the war lays down its burdens. Thus are you commanded. He lets you fight in order to test you. Those who are slain in Allah's Cause will never have their deeds go to waste."

Unholy Qur'an 5:33
"The punishment for those who wage war against Allah and His Messenger and strive after corruption, making mischief in the land [those who refuse to surrender to Islam] is murder, execution, crucifixion, the cutting off of hands and feet on opposite sides, or they should be imprisoned. That is their degradation and disgrace in this world. And a great torment of an awful doom awaits them in the hereafter. Except for those who repent (and become Muslims) before you overpower them and they fall into your control."

http://prophetofdoom.net/Islamic_Quotes_War.I...

“A multiversalist Humanist”

Since: Dec 07

Jabalpur

#182 Jun 22, 2008
The morons Hindukush Raid, KBK,Shul, Leo, AAAA, Double AAAA; are unable to answer me, still now.
It should be noted.
Thus, it is proved, extensively; that according to the globally respected scholar of Islam, Maulana Saiyad Abul Aala Maududi; even the door to Qur'ane Kareem, is closed to these obscene persons.
They are not Muslims, thus; they are MUNAFIQEEN.
Omar

United States

#183 Jun 22, 2008
Mansoor wrote:
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Thats good.Ok let us see,whether it is scientific error or misunderstanding.
The Arabic word used here is,it is 'wajada' meaning,it appeared to Zulqarnain.
if you look up in the dictionary also, it means it appeared.So Allah is describing what appeared to Zulqarnain.
If I make a statement that,The student in the class said, 2 plus 2 is equal to 5.’
And you say…‘Oh Mansoor said, 2 plus 2 is equal to 5. I did not say.
I am telling,The student in the class said, 2 plus 2 is equal to 5.’ I am not wrong - The student is wrong.
There are various ways to try and analyze this verse. One is this way - according to Muhammad Asad, that 'wajada' means…‘It appeared to’…‘It appeared to Zulqarnain.’
There is the potential for muslims to do great things, but they refuse to look within. Instead they blame others for their failure.
Islam

Dallas, TX

#184 Jun 22, 2008
ADHAN - Call To Prayer...

Adhan is made at the time of each Salah to announce the prayer time has come in and to call people to pray. The mu'adhdhin (muzzein, one giving the call) recites the adhan in a loud, melodious voice, pausing after each line. Lift your hands, palms open, and put your fingers in your ears as you give the call. Turn your head to the right as you say “Hayya ‘ala-s-salah” and to the left as you say “Hayya ‘ala-l-falah”.

Allahu akbar Allahu akbar

ash-hadu al-laa ilaha illa-llah

ash-hadu anna muhammadan rasulu-llah

hayya ‘ala-s-salah

hayya ‘ala-l-falah
qada qamati-s-salah qada qamati-s-salah

Allahu akbar, Allahu akbar

laa ilaha illa-llah

TRANSLATION OF THE CALL TO PRAYER

God is most great. God is most great.
God is most great. God is most great.
I testify that there is no God except God.
I testify that there is no God except God.
I testify that Muhammad is the messenger of God.
I testify that Muhammad is the messenger of God.
Come to prayer! Come to prayer!
Come to success! Come to success!
God is most great. God is most great.
There is none worthy of worship except God.



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Ferrari Enzo

Jersey City, NJ

#185 Jun 22, 2008
Islamic Textbook Teaches It's OK to Kill

http://www.cbn.com/CBNnews/391489.aspx

“A multiversalist Humanist”

Since: Dec 07

Jabalpur

#186 Jun 22, 2008
The morons Hindukush Raid, KBK, Shul, Leo, AAAA, Double AAAA; are unable to answer me, still now.
It should be noted.
Thus, it is proved, extensively; that according to the globally respected scholar of Islam, Maulana Saiyad Abul Aala Maududi, rahamatullah alaihi; even the door to Qur'ane Kareem, is closed to these obscene persons.
They are not Muslims, thus; they are MUNAFIQEEN.
‘Whenever it is said to them, "Spread not disorder on the earth", their reply is, "We only seek to put things aright".
- Al Qur’an Al Kareem: 2 Al Baqarah: 11
‘Beware! They do spread disorder but they realize it not.’
-Al Qur’an Al Kareem: 2 Al Baqarah: 12
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#187 Jun 22, 2008
Science does not prove divinity. There were star gazers and soothsayers during Moses day. Mohammad got many scientific things that were in the Bible . The best way to prove a book is from God is the prophesies contained therin because satan was there and saw the creation, but he cannot fortell the future with such accuracy as The Bible does..
.The Bible and Science Scientific Principle Biblical Reference
Cosmology/Astronomy
Time had a beginning 2 Timothy 1:9, Titus 1:2, 1 Corinthians 2:72
The universe had a beginning Genesis 1:1, 2:4, Isaiah 42:5, etc.3
The universe was created from the invisible Hebrews 11:34
The dimensions of the universe were created Romans 8:38-395
The universe is expanding Job 9:8, Psalms 104:2, Isaiah 40:22, Isaiah 42:5, Isaiah 44:24, Isaiah 45:12, Isaiah 48:13, Isaiah 51:13, Jeremiah 10:12, Jeremiah 51:15, Zechariah 12:16
Creation of matter and energy has ended in the universe (refutes steady-state theory) Genesis 2:3-47
The universe is winding down and will "wear out" (second law of thermodynamics ensures that the universe will run down due to "heat death"-maximum entropy) Psalms 102:25-278
Describes the correct order of creation Genesis 1 (see Day-Age Genesis One Interpretation)
Number of stars exceeds a billion Genesis 22:17, Jeremiah 33:229
Every star is different 1 Corinthians 15:4110
Pleiades and Orion as gravitationally bound star groups Job 38:3111
Light is in motion Job 38:19-2012
The earth is controlled by the heavens Job 38:331
Earth is a sphere Isaiah 40:2213 Job 26:1014
At any time, there is day and night on the Earth Luke 17:34-3515
Earth is suspended in space Job 26:716
Earth Sciences
Earth began as a waterworld. Formation of continents by tectonic activity described Genesis 1:2-9, Psalms 104:6-9, Proverbs 3:19, Proverbs 8:27-29, Job 38:4-8, 2 Peter 3:517
Water cycle described Ecclesiastes 1:7; Isaiah 55:10, Job 36:27-2818
Valleys exist on the bottom of the sea 2 Samuel 22:1619
Vents exist on the bottom of the sea Job 38:1620
Ocean currents in the sea Psalms 8:821
Air has weight Job 28:2522
Winds blow in circular paths Ecclesiastes 1:623
Biology
The chemical nature of human life Genesis 2:7, 3:1924
Life of creatures are in the blood Leviticus 17:1125
The nature of infectious diseases Leviticus 13:4626
Importance of sanitation to health
Numbers 19, Deuteronomy 23:12-13, Leviticus 7-927
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#188 Jun 22, 2008
Prophecy is foretelling an event in such detail before it happens so as to necessarily require divine guidance. The Bible is a book containing hundreds of detailed prophecies. There are, for example, well over 60 distinct predictions in regard to our divine Saviour Jesus Christ. Here is a sample of just 10 prophecies that foretold the crucifixion of Christ. Not only were the predictions made 1000 years before Christ came from heaven to earth, but they were made over 500 years before crucifixion was first used anywhere in the world as a form of capital punishment! Crucifixion didn't exist when the prophecies were made.
A scientist picked out 48 such prophecies and determined that the probability of one man randomly fulfilling them all is 1 in 10 to the exponent of 157. That is one followed by 157 zeros! Your chances of winning a typical lottery jackpot is about 1 in 108.(100,000,000) Yet, Jesus fulfilled all the prophecies!

Concerning his birth Prophesied Fulfilled
1. Born of the seed of woman Gen 3:15 Gal 4:4
2. Born of a virgin Isa 7:14 Mt 1:18-25
3. Seed of Abraham Gen 22:18 Mt 1:1
4. Seed of Isaac Gen 21:12 Lk 3:23+34
5. Seed of Jacob Num 24:17 Lk 3:34
6. Seed of David Jer 23:5 Lk 3:31
7. Tribe of Judah Gen 49:10 Rev 5:5
8. Family line of Jesse Isa 11:1 Lk 3:32
9. Born in Bethlehem Mic 5:2 Mt 2:1-6
10. Herod kills the children Jer 31:15 Mt 2:16-18
Concerning his nature Prophesied Fulfilled
11. He pre-existed creation Mic 5:2 1 Pet 1:20
12. He shall be called Lord Ps 110:1 Acts 2:36
13. Called Immanuel (God with us) Isa 7:14 Mt 1:22-23
14. Prophet Deut 18:18-19 Acts 3:18-25
15. Priest Ps 110:4 Heb 5:5-6
16. Judge Isa 33:22 Jn 5:22-23
17. King Ps 2:6 Jn 18:33-37
18. Anointed by the Spirit Isa 11:2 Mt 3:16-17
19. His zeal for God Ps 69:9 Jn 2:15-17
Concerning his ministry Prophesied Fulfilled
20. Preceded by a messenger Isa 40:3 Mt 3:1-3
21. To begin in Galilee Isa 9:1-2 Mt 4:12-17
22. Ministry of Miracles Isa 35:5-6 Mt 9:35;11:4
23. Teacher of parables Ps 78:1-4 Mt 13:34-35
24. He was to enter the temple Mal 3:1 Mt 21:10-12
25. Enter Jerusalem on donkey Zech 9:9 Mt 21:1-7
26. Stone of stumbling to Jews Isa 28:16; Ps 118:22 1 Pet 2:6-8
27. Light to Gentiles Isa 49:6 Acts 13:46-48
The day Jesus was crucified Prophesied Fulfilled
28. Betrayed by a friend Ps 41:9 Jn 13:18-27
29. Sold for 30 pieces of silver Zech 11:12 Mt 26:14-15
30. 30 pieces thrown in Temple Zech 11:13 Mt 27:3-5
31. 30 pieces buys potters field Zech 11:13 Mt 27:6-10
32. Forsaken by His disciples Zech 13:7 Mk 14:27+50
33. Accused by false witnesses Ps 35:11+20-21 Mt 26:59-61
continued,,
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#189 Jun 22, 2008
34. Silent before accusers Isa 53:7 Mt 27:12-14
35. Wounded and bruised Isa 53:4-6 1 Pet 2:21-25
36. Beaten and spit upon Isa 50:6 Mt 26:67-68
37. Mocked Ps 22:6-8 Mt 27:27-31
38. Fell under the cross Ps 109:24-25 Jn 19:17; Lk23:26
39. Hands and feet pierced Ps 22:16 Jn 20:24-28
40. Crucified with thieves Isa 53:12 Mt 27:38
41. Prayed for enemies Isa 53:12 Lk 23:34
42. Rejected by His own people Isa 53:3 Jn 19:14-15
43. Hated without cause Ps 69:4 Jn 15:25
44. Friends stood aloof Ps 38:11 Lk22:54;23:49
45. People wag their heads Ps 22:7;109:25 Mt 27:39
46. People stared at Him Ps 22:17 Lk 23:35
47. Cloths divided and gambled for Ps 22:18 Jn 19:23-24
48. Became very thirsty Ps 22:15 Jn 19:28
49. Gall and vinegar offered Him Ps 69:21 Mt 27:34
50. His forsaken cry Ps 22:1 Mt 27:46
51. Committed Himself to God Ps 31:5 Lk 23:46
52. Bones not broken Ps 34:20 Jn 19:32-36
53. Heart broken Ps 69:20;22:14 Jn 19:34
54. His side pierced Zech 12:10 Jn 19:34+37
55. Darkness over the land Amos 8:9 Lk 23:44-45
56. Buried in rich man's tomb Isa 53:9 Mt 27:57-60
His Resurrection & Ascension Prophesied Fulfilled
57. Raised from the dead Ps 16:8-11 Acts 2:24-31
58. Begotten as Son of God Ps 2:7 Acts 13:32-35
59. Ascended to God Ps 68:18 Eph 2:8-10
60. Seated beside God Ps 110:1 Heb 1:3+13

Today, the only way Bible scoffers can explain away this astronomical probability is to discredit the prophecies in one way or another. Their only alternative is to accept that God is the author of the Scriptures. The Bible is a reliable book of genuine divine prophecy.

The evidence of divine prophecy presented here is just a tiny portion of the proofs available to establish the divine origin of the Bible. Yet, they are more than sufficient to prove the inspiration of the Bible. There will always be men who scoff at the Bible. You, however, can be confident when you read your Bible that God is the author, for it is written:

"We constantly thank God that when you received from us the word of God's message, you accepted it not as the word of men, but for what it really is, the word of God" (1 Thessalonians 2:13). here are recent fulfillments,,,

100 Bible prophecies explained:
10 fulfilled recently
These 10 Bible prophecies were fulfilled after 1948, when Israel became an independent country for the second time in history. These prophecies find fulfillment in Israel's stunning military victories and in its transition from a desert wasteland to a comparatively prosperous nation.
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#190 Jun 22, 2008
1. Israel will ultimately prevail over its enemies
Bible passage: Isaiah 41:12-14
Written: perhaps between 701-681 BC
Fulfilled: late 1900s
Even though in the last days, Jerusalem will be overtaken by armies, God has promised to intervene when all seems lost.
In Isaiah 41:12-14, the prophet proclaimed that the tiny nation of Israel ultimately will prevail over its enemies, and that although its enemies will cease to exist one day, Israel will survive. This prophecy is interesting from an historical perspective. The country of Israel has been conquered and destroyed at different times by very powerful nations and empires, such as Assyria, Babylon and the Roman Empire. Those conquests led to the exile and worldwide dispersion of the people of Israel, and to the desolation of the land of Israel. Even so, Israel is again a sovereign nation today, and the empires of Assyria, Babylon and ancient Rome have vanished long ago. The Nazis tried to destroy the people of Israel during the 1940s. But that decade saw the rebirth of the county of Israel and the destruction of the Nazi empire. From the perspective of various Christian scholars, this prophecy has found partial fulfillment so far, and will be completely fulfilled in the future when all enemies of Israel are destroyed.
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Isaiah 41:12-14
Though you search for your enemies, you will not find them. Those who wage war against you will be as nothing at all. For I am the Lord, your God, who takes hold of your right hand and says to you, Do not fear; I will help you. Do not be afraid, O worm Jacob, O little Israel, for I myself will help you," declares the Lord, your Redeemer, the Holy One of Israel.

2. The ruins of Israel would be rebuilt
Bible passage: Amos 9:11, 13
Written: about 750 BC
Fulfilled: late 1900s
In Amos 9:11, 13, the prophet said that God would restore the land of David. King David ruled Israel from about 1010 BC to about 970 BC. During that time, Israel was a united and sovereign nation. Afterwards, the land was divided into two kingdoms and later conquered by a succession of world powers. For much of the past 2000 years, the people of Israel have been living in exile in countries around the world, and the land of Israel has been in a state of ruin. During the past two centuries, however, many Jews have returned from exile and have rebuilt and reconditioned much of the land of Israel. The soil is again productive, producing food exports for many countries. And the nation is again sovereign and united.
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#191 Jun 22, 2008
Amos 9:11, 13
"In that day I will restore David's fallen tent. I will repair its broken places, restore its ruins, and build it as it used to be,''… "The days are coming," declares the Lord, "when the reaper will be overtaken by the plowman and the planter by the one treading grapes. New wine will drip from the mountains and flow from all the hills."

3. Ezekiel prophesied prosperity for a restored Israel
Bible passage: Ezekiel 36:11
Written: between 593-571 BC
Fulfilled: late 1900s
In Ezekiel 36:11, the prophet said that there would come a time when Israel would be more prosperous than it was in the past. The Bible describes Israel as being a prosperous nation during the time of King David and King Solomon about 3000 years ago. But, Ezekiel knew a very different Israel. In Ezekiel's day (he lived about 2600 years ago), the northern part of the land had been decimated by the Assyrians, and the southern part, called Judah, was being destroyed by the Babylonians. The land of Israel suffered greatly, falling into a state of poverty and desolation that would last for many centuries. But today, Israel again is a sovereign nation. And it is a prosperous nation. In 1999, Israel had the highest per capita Gross Domestic Product of any nearby country, even though the surrounding countries have many oil resources.
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Ezekiel 36:11
I will increase the number of men and animals upon you, and they will be fruitful and become numerous. I will settle people on you as in the past and will make you prosper more than before. Then you will know that I am the Lord.

4. Trees would flourish again in a desolate Israel
Bible passage: Isaiah 41:18-20
Written: perhaps between 701-681 BC
Fulfilled: late 1900s
In Isaiah 41:18-20, the prophet's talk of a future restoration of Israel coincides with an occurrence in modern Israel - the construction of a vast irrigation system to improve farming. The lack of available water, including rain, is one reason why Israel had been a desolate, unproductive land during much of the past 2000 years. But, during the 1900s, when many Jews returned to their ancient homeland, they built a network of irrigation systems. And during the past century, more than 200 million trees have been planted in Israel.
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#192 Jun 22, 2008
Isaiah 41:18-20
I will make rivers flow on barren heights, and springs within the valleys. I will turn the desert into pools of water, and the parched ground into springs. I will put in the desert the cedar and the acacia, the myrtle and the olive. I will set pines in the wasteland, the fir and the cypress together, so that people may see and know, may consider and understand, that the hand of the Lord has done this, that the Holy One of Israel has created it.

Note: The Jewish National Fund web site, at www.jnf.org , has information about how people can contribute to the effort to reforest Israel.

5. Isaiah said Israel's fruit would fill the world
Bible passage: Isaiah 27:6
Written: perhaps between 701-681 BC
Fulfilled: late 1900s
In Isaiah 27:6, the prophet said Israel would one day blossom and fill the world with fruit. This prophecy has been at least partially fulfilled so far, literally and spiritually. Today, the land of Israel, which had been barren for centuries, is a leading producer of agricultural products, exporting food to many countries. This prophecy also has been fulfilled spiritually with the worldwide spread of Christianity, which began with Jesus in Israel.
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Isaiah 27:6
In days to come Jacob will take root, Israel will bud and blossom and fill all the world with fruit.

6. Jerusalem would become the world's most important religious site
Bible passage: Micah 4:1
Written: sometime between 750-686 BC
Fulfilled: Partially in modern times
In Micah 4:1, the prophet said that the Temple mount in Jerusalem would become the focal point of the world. Various Christian scholars regard this as a prophecy that is to be fulfilled in the future. But it is interesting to note that Jerusalem is, and has been for centuries, the world's most important religious site. Christians and Jews have always regarded the city as important. Followers of Islam later adopted Jerusalem as an important city in their beliefs. No other city in the world is a religious focal point to as many people.
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