Most Muslim marriages are invalid

Most Muslim marriages are invalid

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Crusader Princess

Eugene, OR

#1 Jan 27, 2010
Islamic law clearly states that a woman must freely consent to a marriage but we know that many young Muslim girls are forced into marriage against their will by their parents. Therefore these marriages are invalid and the issue of such marriages is illegitimate. In other words, most Muslims are bastards.
Rabbeen Al Jihad

Salt Lake City, UT

#2 Jan 29, 2010
Correction! not all marriages are arranged like you pretend they are! and only the evil ones(men) are as you say Baysturds! Hehehehehe

“Listen to the sounds”

Since: Feb 09

of your own extinction......

#3 Jan 29, 2010
Crusader Princess wrote:
Islamic law clearly states that a woman must freely consent to a marriage but we know that many young Muslim girls are forced into marriage against their will by their parents. Therefore these marriages are invalid and the issue of such marriages is illegitimate. In other words, most Muslims are bastards.
"BUT WE KNOW that many young muslim girls....."

How do you know?

The west has a common misconception about marriage in the east. This is how a typical muslim community operates regarding marriage.

The guy will grow up, study and get a job. Depending on which country we are talking about, the girl will grow up and either study and get a job, or stay at home and learn homemaking skills.

Eventually the guy will decide that he's in a financially stable situation, and he's fit to get married and start a family. In some cases, he meets women on his own and gets engaged and married. However, often it happens that the guy can't find a girl by himself. Well, at least not one that he would like. So he tells his parents to help him find a girl.

His parents will ask around in the extended family and friends. Once they find a girl with an equal desire to find someone and get married, they then take their son to the girls house and everyone has a big get together where the guy and girl can talk.

If, and only if, both of them feel a connection to each other, then are they allowed to court, get engaged and married. If the guy says no, the whole thing is called off and they keep looking for another girl. If the girl says no, the whole thing is called off and her family continues looking for other guys.

If at any time either of the two say they dont wana get married, there will be no wedding.

I hope that clears things.

“It ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble. It's what you know for sure that just ain't so.”- Mark Twain
PISS be upon him

UK

#4 Jan 29, 2010
True Truth wrote:
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"BUT WE KNOW that many young muslim girls....."
How do you know?
The west has a common misconception about marriage in the east. This is how a typical muslim community operates regarding marriage.
The guy will grow up, study and get a job. Depending on which country we are talking about, the girl will grow up and either study and get a job, or stay at home and learn homemaking skills.
Eventually the guy will decide that he's in a financially stable situation, and he's fit to get married and start a family. In some cases, he meets women on his own and gets engaged and married. However, often it happens that the guy can't find a girl by himself. Well, at least not one that he would like. So he tells his parents to help him find a girl.
His parents will ask around in the extended family and friends. Once they find a girl with an equal desire to find someone and get married, they then take their son to the girls house and everyone has a big get together where the guy and girl can talk.
If, and only if, both of them feel a connection to each other, then are they allowed to court, get engaged and married. If the guy says no, the whole thing is called off and they keep looking for another girl. If the girl says no, the whole thing is called off and her family continues looking for other guys.
If at any time either of the two say they dont wana get married, there will be no wedding.
I hope that clears things.
“It ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble. It's what you know for sure that just ain't so.”- Mark Twain
not entirely true, its often the family that decides when the boy/girl gets married. most the ppl i know Sh*t it when there parents want to take them on hol "Back home". most lads/girls i know dont love their wives/husbands, but just married them because their parents have arranged it and its easier to conform. and as of looking for a girl..... its just ur cousin from down the road u get married to. so we either end up wid inbred children with learning difficulties, or illegitimate children as a results of adultry

“Listen to the sounds”

Since: Feb 09

of your own extinction......

#5 Jan 29, 2010
PISS be upon him wrote:
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not entirely true, its often the family that decides when the boy/girl gets married. most the ppl i know Sh*t it when there parents want to take them on hol "Back home". most lads/girls i know dont love their wives/husbands, but just married them because their parents have arranged it and its easier to conform. and as of looking for a girl..... its just ur cousin from down the road u get married to. so we either end up wid inbred children with learning difficulties, or illegitimate children as a results of adultry
What do you know? I'm a muslim and I'm telling you. But no, arrogant fools like you always want to teach us everything. Maybe you should tell me how I treat my girlfriend too. Coz I dont know about my own life and the lives of muslims isn't? Only you know.

Idiot.

“The Defiant Dhimmi”

Since: Apr 08

Scholar of the Obvious

#6 Jan 29, 2010
True Truth wrote:
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What do you know? I'm a muslim and I'm telling you. But no, arrogant fools like you always want to teach us everything. Maybe you should tell me how I treat my girlfriend too. Coz I dont know about my own life and the lives of muslims isn't? Only you know.
Idiot.
You have a 'girlfriend'?
And your a Muslim?

Oh, my, how sinful.

Allah will get you for that.
PISS be upon him

UK

#7 Jan 29, 2010
True Truth wrote:
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What do you know? I'm a muslim and I'm telling you. But no, arrogant fools like you always want to teach us everything. Maybe you should tell me how I treat my girlfriend too. Coz I dont know about my own life and the lives of muslims isn't? Only you know.
Idiot.
idiot<----- that hurts so much coming from u!!
1
lets start off with wat i know!
1) i'm not white! cuz i know that wat u were thinkin
2) i live a majority muslim area, with muslims from all over the show
3)i work in wat can only be described as a muslim school.

the people i grew up with were muslim. so i'm used to the holier than tho attitude u preach.

unfortunately i live breath and see islam all day!!

it is not a pretty site. and all that stuff i wrote about islam and marriage is all true.

come off ur high horse and open ur eyes moron....... u might see it!

i'd say ditch the GF ur ways will only ruin her life and children u might have...

“Listen to the sounds”

Since: Feb 09

of your own extinction......

#8 Feb 1, 2010
PISS be upon him wrote:
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idiot<----- that hurts so much coming from u!!
1
lets start off with wat i know!
1) i'm not white! cuz i know that wat u were thinkin
2) i live a majority muslim area, with muslims from all over the show
3)i work in wat can only be described as a muslim school.
the people i grew up with were muslim. so i'm used to the holier than tho attitude u preach.
unfortunately i live breath and see islam all day!!
it is not a pretty site. and all that stuff i wrote about islam and marriage is all true.
come off ur high horse and open ur eyes moron....... u might see it!
i'd say ditch the GF ur ways will only ruin her life and children u might have...
Oh wow big deal you know a couple of muslims in your neighbourhood. What you need to wake up and realise, is that people are different around the world. The few muslims you know are not representative of entire muslim populations.

I'm an indian Muslim living in South Africa. We are far different from muslims living in Mauritius, or India or the middle east or even Europe. In some ways we are better, in other ways we are worse.

You need to get out more.

And you do not know me. You are not qualified to lecture me on what I should do in my personal life and how I should treat my girlfriend.

You guys are forever needling our personal lives. Mind your own business. Is your life so mediocre that you waste it poking your nose in other peoples business and finding excuses to demonise them?
bmz

Korea

#9 Feb 1, 2010
Let TURD bastard tell you how to treat your wife instead :

Qur'an 4:34:

"Men are in charge of women, because Allah hath made the one of them to excel the other, and because they spend of their property (for the support of women). So good women are the obedient, guarding in secret that which Allah hath guarded. As for those from whom ye fear rebellion, admonish them and banish them to beds apart, and scourge them."
PISS be upon him

UK

#10 Feb 1, 2010
True Truth wrote:
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Oh wow big deal you know a couple of muslims in your neighbourhood. What you need to wake up and realise, is that people are different around the world. The few muslims you know are not representative of entire muslim populations.
I'm an indian Muslim living in South Africa. We are far different from muslims living in Mauritius, or India or the middle east or even Europe. In some ways we are better, in other ways we are worse.
You need to get out more.
And you do not know me. You are not qualified to lecture me on what I should do in my personal life and how I should treat my girlfriend.
You guys are forever needling our personal lives. Mind your own business. Is your life so mediocre that you waste it poking your nose in other peoples business and finding excuses to demonise them?
i get out quite fine actually, i can see a lot better then most in my area, not being in a tent and all. its not a small population of muslims, having muslims in the area is akin to having rats infest ur house.
so u think not not all muslims are the same? but they are if they follow the corrupt ideology of the quran. is there there a place on earth where muslims dont cause trouble for the indigenous population. you asked me to comment on ur gf so i did!! its ur personal lives, the way u ppl behave that effect my life for the worse. if i could, id like to put all the muslims in one big area, build a wall around it and fill it with water!!!!
Piss upon you

Germany

#11 Feb 1, 2010
Crusader Princess wrote:
Islamic law clearly states that a woman must freely consent to a marriage but we know that many young Muslim girls are forced into marriage against their will by their parents. Therefore these marriages are invalid and the issue of such marriages is illegitimate. In other words, most Muslims are bastards.
Piss be upon you, bastard. Both the man and the woman have to declare their acceptance. If she says I do and he says I do then thats it. If she says no then it is no marriage.

Piss upon you.

“Listen to the sounds”

Since: Feb 09

of your own extinction......

#12 Feb 1, 2010
PISS be upon him wrote:
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i get out quite fine actually, i can see a lot better then most in my area, not being in a tent and all. its not a small population of muslims, having muslims in the area is akin to having rats infest ur house.
so u think not not all muslims are the same? but they are if they follow the corrupt ideology of the quran. is there there a place on earth where muslims dont cause trouble for the indigenous population. you asked me to comment on ur gf so i did!! its ur personal lives, the way u ppl behave that effect my life for the worse. if i could, id like to put all the muslims in one big area, build a wall around it and fill it with water!!!!
Why do you hate us so much that you want us all dead? Did some terrorist kill a relative of yours? Or did some relative convert and betray you? What is the reason?

Dont say "We hate you because you follow the Quran". Christians follow the Bible. It encourages rape, murder and incest. From our perspective the Bible is corrupt. But we do not hate you. Well, at least most of us dont hate you.

Other texts are also corrup from our perspective. But I do not hate Hindus and Jews. I do not wish them to be dead. Most of us do not wish this. And yet here you are, wishing that we all could just drown in a tank of water. Why such hatred? You dont know me and yet you hate me. You've never met me. You dont even know my name, and yet you hate me. What is the reason for such blind hatred?

Perhaps you should come and have a cup of tea with me at home in South Africa. I'll invite my Hindu and Christian neighbours over too, just to make you comfortable. They make nice pancakes.
Crusader Princess

Eugene, OR

#14 Feb 1, 2010
Piss upon you wrote:
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Piss be upon you, bastard. Both the man and the woman have to declare their acceptance. If she says I do and he says I do then thats it. If she says no then it is no marriage.
Piss upon you.
Don't lie. You know perfectly well that Muslim girls are forced into marriages against their will all the time. It's in the news constantly. If you don't like what that says about Islam, then your problem is with Islam, not with me for telling the truth about it.
blissssssss

Malaysia

#15 Feb 1, 2010
i am a muslim woman married to a guy my family suggest for me. and i am happy. parents choice is always right. my husband is very loving and responsible. we are living in a moderate home but it feels like heaven.... thanks to Allah He bless us and we will pray that our marriage will last until the end,

“Listen to the sounds”

Since: Feb 09

of your own extinction......

#16 Feb 1, 2010
Crusader Princess wrote:
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Don't lie. You know perfectly well that Muslim girls are forced into marriages against their will all the time. It's in the news constantly. If you don't like what that says about Islam, then your problem is with Islam, not with me for telling the truth about it.
Don't lie. You know perfectly well that Muslim girls are forced into marriages against their will all the time. It's in the news constantly. If you don't like what that says about Islam, then your problem is with Islam, not with me for telling the truth about it.

There are some very isolated cases of forced marriages. Indeed it does happen sometimes. But its not the norm. I have no problem with you raising this issue. But presenting it as the norm, is a lie.

And in all religions this happens. Sure its not the norm, but it does happen. Be it Christian, Muslim, Hindu or Jewish communities. There are some incidents especially among the poor, where people are forced into marriage. But again, it is not the norm.

Thats the main problem with you people. You just 1 or 2 cases from 1 or 2 articles you have read, and then just take it to be the norm. In america fornication, rape, adultery and divorce occur quite often. By applying your standards, I could safely conclude that the U.S. is a perverse unfaithful society. But I know better. I know that although such cases do occur, I know that it is not the norm.

Please engage in fair criticism.
bmz

Singapore, Singapore

#17 Feb 1, 2010
True Truth wrote:
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Dont say "We hate you because you follow the Quran". Christians follow the Bible. It encourages rape, murder and incest. From our perspective the Bible is corrupt. But we do not hate you. Well, at least most of us dont hate you.
DID JESUS encourage AZL or was it MUSLIM ISA that encourage RAPE. You bastard LIAR...which one is IT?? LOL

Cheers
BMZ
bmz

Since: Mar 08

Singapore

#18 Feb 1, 2010
bmz wrote:
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DID JESUS encourage AZL or was it MUSLIM ISA that encourage RAPE. You bastard LIAR...which one is IT?? LOL
Cheers
BMZ
We have no reports from Mary Magdalene and the Homo disciples, if the biblical Jesus practised AZL.

Give me some time to go through some secret gospels.

I am sure he did not practise AZL, he must have shot his wad in.

Does your boyfriend practise Azl? LMAO!

Cheers
BMZ

Since: Jun 09

Location hidden

#19 Feb 1, 2010
Crusader Princess wrote:
Islamic law clearly states that a woman must freely consent to a marriage but we know that many young Muslim girls are forced into marriage against their will by their parents. Therefore these marriages are invalid and the issue of such marriages is illegitimate. In other words, most Muslims are bastards.
I heard that 50% of children in one western country are illegitimate and illegitimate child means to them a child resulted from a relationship with a stranger not with a boyfriend.
Rabbeen Al Jihad

Salt Lake City, UT

#20 Feb 1, 2010
Salaams BMZ...Al-Waahid! fun call on the Obcessive azl-ing going around! I wonder If your shadow/bmz(al-amuseing,al-obce ssive) has anything truly of importance to say? Judgeing from his last post,it gives one cause to ponderLOL! Speaking of importance,I wonder if any discussion on arranged marriages with "goons" and "kaafirs" will make it past their thick sculls? And if this hasnt crossed their minds,maybe it should be brought up...seems like parents usually being older,and wiser can best pick mates for their children.In parts of the world where this is common its no issue. So, what is the hang up of those opposed to this practice? Im not sure there,s even been a cursory investigation into this tradition by those who seem to oppose it!?...your thoughts? Maxa-Salaama
bmz

Since: Mar 08

Singapore

#21 Feb 1, 2010
Rabbeen Al Jihad wrote:
Salaams BMZ...Al-Waahid! fun call on the Obcessive azl-ing going around! I wonder If your shadow/bmz(al-amuseing,al-obce ssive) has anything truly of importance to say? Judgeing from his last post,it gives one cause to ponderLOL! Speaking of importance,I wonder if any discussion on arranged marriages with "goons" and "kaafirs" will make it past their thick sculls? And if this hasnt crossed their minds,maybe it should be brought up...seems like parents usually being older,and wiser can best pick mates for their children.In parts of the world where this is common its no issue. So, what is the hang up of those opposed to this practice? Im not sure there,s even been a cursory investigation into this tradition by those who seem to oppose it!?...your thoughts? Maxa-Salaama
Salaams, Rabbeen

Yes, she is obsessed. The problem is that she is forcing me to practise Azl
but I do not like it. Hence, her anger and revolt.

There is another big problem. Most of these posters have grown up playing Nintendo and other games and have not spent much time on reading.

Another problem is that the biblical Jesus, although he was supported and maintained mostly by rich women, did not talk much about women. He gave no code of conduct on marriage, family nucleus, values and other important issues. He was busy with his Father's issues and forgot to talk about mothers, fathers and children.

There is nothing wrong with arranged marriages. Mine was an arranged one too and is still going strong. However, before marriage, I had asked parents to show me the lass, which they did and I liked her. I was also 'exhibited' to the lass. lol!

What the hardcore goons and Jesus Freaks do not know is that even if the parents match-make, both the boy and the girl still have to declare, "I accept" before witnesses and the Qadhi.

A girl, who does not want to marry the man, still has the right to refuse, if forced.

Salaams
BMZ

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