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Richard Dawkins - God is evil, pedophilesa not so bad

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LCNLin

United States

#1211 Dec 3, 2013
emperorjohn wrote:
<quoted text> Your god should hold himself accountable since he made us inperfect
Have you attended a university?
Ever taken a course in philosophy?
Thinking

Merthyr Tydfil, UK

#1212 Dec 3, 2013
Why?
isaiah 45 wrote:
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Wrong interpretation. Try again.
Thinking

Merthyr Tydfil, UK

#1213 Dec 3, 2013
Why?
Quadratus wrote:
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Im familiar with that passage. Look up the interpretation oh the Hebrew word translated evil in it and see if your position is still tenable.
Quadratus

Everett, WA

#1214 Dec 3, 2013
emperorjohn wrote:
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Damn, that is a lot. And people thought my family was big with six kids. You are gonna have a lot of Christmas shopping to do when you get your grand children.
Got a lot of Christmas shopping to do right now.
Quadratus

Everett, WA

#1215 Dec 3, 2013
ChristineM wrote:
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Depends on which versions you read,(if you read) there are so many, more than 200 different versions in the English language alone. The majority of those versions currently in use from the 1599 Geneva version through the KJV (and its clones) and Youngs Literal Translation give Isaiah 45:7 as (or similar to but including the word “evil”):-
“I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things.”
You can of course argue that in ancient Hebrew there was no word for evil, the word being translated from Ra’ meaning bad. However in ancient Hebrew the word Ra’ implies all forms of bad, including evil
See http://www.biblestudytools.com/lexicons/hebre... for a translated definition of the word ra’
Funnily enough I know of no translations that say “and create bad”
The fact stands then that the Bible does not say God created evil in the srnse of wickedness. But that God created evil in the sense of bad things happening. That God created the result of wickedness. When the KJV uses the word evil it almost always means bad things happening to you.
Mahmood

Peterborough, Canada

#1216 Dec 3, 2013
hazem selawi wrote:
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And how is that going with you so far ?
Going good.
Thinking

Merthyr Tydfil, UK

#1217 Dec 3, 2013
It's the reason for the season.
Quadratus wrote:
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Got a lot of Christmas shopping to do right now.

“I started out with nothing”

Since: Nov 10

and still got most of it left

#1218 Dec 3, 2013
Quadratus wrote:
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The fact stands then that the Bible does not say God created evil in the srnse of wickedness. But that God created evil in the sense of bad things happening. That God created the result of wickedness. When the KJV uses the word evil it almost always means bad things happening to you.
I see you have this interpretation down pat as a good christian should.

However several versions of the babble do actually say “I make peace, and create evil:”

Not “I make peace and make bad things happen to you” but “I make peace, and create evil:”

Did you see that, I … create evil”

How would you interpret the term?

Why is it so difficult to understand, here let me show you the definition of the word create.

Create – verb - bring (something) into existence - to cause to exist - bring into being - give rise to - produce:

No interpretation involved
LCNLin

United States

#1219 Dec 3, 2013
Materialists, often, can not deal with the concept of Quality which makes their social relationships ,often, a failure

They network people to get a head at work, failing to see the quality of life.

"It's the reason" ... for life and enjoyment
Quadratus

Everett, WA

#1220 Dec 3, 2013
ChristineM wrote:
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I see you have this interpretation down pat as a good christian should.
However several versions of the babble do actually say “I make peace, and create evil:”
Not “I make peace and make bad things happen to you” but “I make peace, and create evil:”
Did you see that, I … create evil”
How would you interpret the term?
Why is it so difficult to understand, here let me show you the definition of the word create.
Create – verb - bring (something) into existence - to cause to exist - bring into being - give rise to - produce:
No interpretation involved
Probably as the author is using the literary device of opposing thoughts, evil would be translated as oppisite of peace. I dont see how that is moral wickedness. Once again it sounds like bad things happening .

“I started out with nothing”

Since: Nov 10

and still got most of it left

#1221 Dec 3, 2013
Quadratus wrote:
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Probably as the author is using the literary device of opposing thoughts, evil would be translated as oppisite of peace. I dont see how that is moral wickedness. Once again it sounds like bad things happening .
I see you have this interpretation down pat as a good christian should.

There can be no argument about what it says in several versions of the babble and this discussion started when you asked in post #1190 “Where does the Bible say God created evil?”

Several people pointed you to where the babble says “I make peace, and create evil:”

And yet you still deny, that’s fair enough, you are welcome to deceive yourself and lie for your faith.
LCNLin

United States

#1222 Dec 3, 2013
ChristineM wrote:
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I see you have this interpretation down pat as a good christian should.
There can be no argument about what it says in several versions of the babble and this discussion started when you asked in post #1190 “Where does the Bible say God created evil?”
Several people pointed you to where the babble says “I make peace, and create evil:”
And yet you still deny, that’s fair enough, you are welcome to deceive yourself and lie for your faith.
While thinking atheists and agnostics, often do not post this prattle, the more amusing quantitative materialists seem to favor this.

Ask the materialist if it is a beautiful day

and he will provide the temperature.:-)

They miss most of life?

Have a nice day
Quadratus

Everett, WA

#1223 Dec 3, 2013
ChristineM wrote:
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I see you have this interpretation down pat as a good christian should.
There can be no argument about what it says in several versions of the babble and this discussion started when you asked in post #1190 “Where does the Bible say God created evil?”
Several people pointed you to where the babble says “I make peace, and create evil:”
And yet you still deny, that’s fair enough, you are
welcome to deceive yourself and lie for your faith.
I think a fair minded observer would conclude you are on shaky ground.
I have a question.
Some time ago I mentioned I had experienced God through the new birth and you accused me of an overactive imagination. What tests would you suggest to falsify my interpretation of the event, and demonstrate it really was imagination?

“I started out with nothing”

Since: Nov 10

and still got most of it left

#1224 Dec 3, 2013
Quadratus wrote:
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I think a fair minded observer would conclude you are on shaky ground.
I have a question.
Some time ago I mentioned I had experienced God through the new birth and you accused me of an overactive imagination. What tests would you suggest to falsify my interpretation of the event, and demonstrate it really was imagination?
I think a fair minded (and unbiased) observer would read what was actually written and read an ancient Hebrew lexicon then decide based on fact and not on interpretation and persons dreams.

What new birth, your “re-birth” as in born again or the new birth of a child?

Any tests you can provide or suggest that there is actually a god (or gods) rather than the personal belief of a god (or gods) without evidence.

Oh wait a moment, just like when I you made the statement and I questioned it I don’t believe you can provide any..

“I started out with nothing”

Since: Nov 10

and still got most of it left

#1225 Dec 3, 2013
LCNLin wrote:
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While thinking atheists and agnostics, often do not post this prattle, the more amusing quantitative materialists seem to favor this.
Ask the materialist if it is a beautiful day
and he will provide the temperature.:-)
They miss most of life?
Have a nice day
I see you are still trolling your ignorant BS based on your narrow and limited understanding of what life actually is outside the walls of your funnymentalism

So you are saying that the temperate of a nice day (or a cold day) is irrelevant? May I suggest you try cultivating grapes on a nice, clear and fresh day in the arctic circle.

Good to see you survived for so long
LCNLin

United States

#1226 Dec 3, 2013
Some atheist trolls,
unlike thinking atheists,
are amusing when they assume
that Agnostics are
fundamentalist Christians.

LOL

“I started out with nothing”

Since: Nov 10

and still got most of it left

#1227 Dec 3, 2013
LCNLin wrote:
Some atheist trolls,
unlike thinking atheists,
are amusing when they assume
that Agnostics are
fundamentalist Christians.
LOL
You don’t need to be christian to be funnymentalist

I really hoped you would know that
Mahmood

Peterborough, Canada

#1228 Dec 3, 2013
Give a man a fish and he'll eat for a day. Teach a man to fish, and he'll fish for the rest of his life. Give a man religion, and he'll die praying for a fish.
Quadratus

Everett, WA

#1229 Dec 3, 2013
Mahmood wrote:
Give a man a fish and he'll eat for a day. Teach a man to fish, and he'll fish for the rest of his life. Give a man religion, and he'll die praying for a fish.
The Protestant work ethic was pretty impressive. Still is among staunch Calvinists.
Quadratus

Everett, WA

#1230 Dec 3, 2013
ChristineM wrote:
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I think a fair minded (and unbiased) observer would read what was actually written and read an ancient Hebrew lexicon then decide based on fact and not on interpretation and persons dreams.
What new birth, your “re-birth” as in born again or the new birth of a child?
Any tests you can provide or suggest that there is actually a god (or gods) rather than the personal belief of a god (or gods) without evidence.
Oh wait a moment, just like when I you made the statement and I questioned it I don’t believe you can provide any..
So all youre good for is negative sarcasm? Cmon put on your thinking cap. Suppose you have someone who is certain He has experienced God. You are certain that whatever he has experienced is imaginatory. Surely you can come up with a test to prove or falsify the opinions.

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