Shamma please paste Isaiah 37 here

Shamma please paste Isaiah 37 here

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Darth Yoda

UK

#1 Sep 30, 2013
First few verses will do.
Darth Yoda

UK

#2 Oct 5, 2013
Shamma post please.

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#3 Oct 5, 2013
Why should Shamma respond to your spam? You're too lazy to Google?

Since: Apr 11

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#4 Oct 5, 2013
Darth Yoda wrote:
First few verses will do.
Isiah 37,
Its meaning is that one day the angel of the Lord will destroy the religion of Islam and the Black stone Muslims worship.

There is only One God!!
The Father, Son, and Holy Spirit is the One person of God who manifest Himself as three persons of whom we call a Trinity.

That is the Uniqueness of God that allows God to accomplish all things according to His Will.
Darth Yoda

Preston, UK

#5 Oct 5, 2013
You don't realise the reason behind pasting Isaiah 37 - Shamma please paste some verses and I'll explain.

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#6 Oct 5, 2013
Darth Yoda wrote:
You don't realise the reason behind pasting Isaiah 37 - Shamma please paste some verses and I'll explain.
“Virgin Daughter Zion
despises and mocks you.
Daughter Jerusalem
tosses her head as you flee.
23 Who is it you have ridiculed and blasphemed?
Against whom have you raised your voice
and lifted your eyes in pride?
Against the Holy One of Israel!
24 By your messengers
you have ridiculed the Lord.
And you have said,
‘With my many chariots
I have ascended the heights of the mountains,
the utmost heights of Lebanon.
I have cut down its tallest cedars,
the choicest of its junipers.
I have reached its remotest heights,
the finest of its forests.
25 I have dug wells in foreign lands[c]
and drunk the water there.
With the soles of my feet
I have dried up all the streams of Egypt.’


26 “Have you not heard?
Long ago I ordained it.
In days of old I planned it;
now I have brought it to pass,
that you have turned fortified cities
into piles of stone.
27 Their people, drained of power,
are dismayed and put to shame.
They are like plants in the field,
like tender green shoots,
like grass sprouting on the roof,
scorched[d] before it grows up.


28 “But I know where you are
and when you come and go
and how you rage against me.
29 Because you rage against me
and because your insolence has reached my ears,
I will put my hook in your nose
and my bit in your mouth,
and I will make you return
by the way you came.

30 “This will be the sign for you, Hezekiah:

“This year you will eat what grows by itself,
and the second year what springs from that.
But in the third year sow and reap,
plant vineyards and eat their fruit.
31 Once more a remnant of the kingdom of Judah
will take root below and bear fruit above.
32 For out of Jerusalem will come a remnant,
and out of Mount Zion a band of survivors.
The zeal of the Lord Almighty
will accomplish this.

33 “Therefore this is what the Lord says concerning the king of Assyria:

“He will not enter this city
or shoot an arrow here.
He will not come before it with shield
or build a siege ramp against it.
34 By the way that he came he will return;
he will not enter this city,”
declares the Lord.
35 “I will defend this city and save it,
for my sake and for the sake of David my servant!”

36 Then the angel of the Lord went out and put to death a hundred and eighty-five thousand in the Assyrian camp. When the people got up the next morning—there were all the dead bodies! 37 So Sennacherib king of Assyria broke camp and withdrew. He returned to Nineveh and stayed there.

38 One day, while he was worshiping in the temple of his god Nisrok, his sons Adrammelek and Sharezer killed him with the sword, and they escaped to the land of Ararat. And Esarhaddon his son succeeded him as king.
Darth Yoda

Preston, UK

#7 Oct 5, 2013
Thank you. Now can you paste the same verse numbers from 2 Kings 19?

Since: Apr 11

Location hidden

#8 Oct 5, 2013
Darth Yoda wrote:
Thank you. Now can you paste the same verse numbers from 2 Kings 19?
It is obvious you are not interested in the meaning of scripture but rather the events that happened in the history of the Jews in the Bible.

Angel of the Lord [S]
(Heb. mal'ak yehwah). Supernatural being who bears a message on behalf of God. In many passages in the Old Testament, the angel of the Lord is identified with God, while in other instances a distinction is made between the Lord and the angel. In general, however, the terms "the angel of the Lord, " "the Lord, " and "God" are interchangeable.

The angel of the Lord is the messenger of both good and evil. He comes to Hagar after she has fled from the abusive Sarai ( Gen 16:7-14 ) to assure her that God has heard about her misery and that her descendants will be too numerous to count. She names him "You are the God who sees me" (v. 13). The angel of the Lord pronounces a curse on the people of Meroz, because they refused to come to the help of the Lord ( Jud 5:23 ).

The angel of the Lord executes judgment on behalf of the Lord. He puts to death 185, 000 Assyrian soldiers in their camp, thereby saving Jerusalem from decimation ( 2 Ki 19:35 ).

The angel of the Lord both commissions and commends God's servants. The commander of the Lord's army commissions Joshua to undertake the Lord's battles for Canaan, just as Moses had been commissioned to confront Pharaoh ( Joshua 5:13-15 ; cf. Exod 3:5 ). The angel of the Lord appears to Abraham. He stops Abraham from sacrificing Isaac and commends him because he has not withheld his only son from God ( Gen 22:11-18 ). Abraham identifies the angel as God, calling the place "The Lord Will Provide."

The angel of the Lord carries out a ministry of reconciliation. He asks how long God will withhold mercy from Jerusalem and Judah ( Zec 1:12 ).

The connection between the angel of the Lord and the preincarnate appearance of the Messiah cannot be denied. Manoah meets the angel of the Lord, and declares that he has seen God. The angel accepts worship from Manoah and his wife as no mere angel, and refers to himself as "Wonderful, " the same term applied to the coming deliverer in Isaiah 9:6 ( Jud 13:9-22 ). The functions of the angel of the Lord in the Old Testament prefigure the reconciling ministry of Jesus. In the New Testament, there is no mention of the angel of the Lord; the Messiah himself Jesus Christ is this person.

So Muslims need to learn who Jesus the Son of God truly is.
Jesus is the second person of Gods Holy Trinity who existed with God before the world was.
Darth Yoda

UK

#9 Oct 5, 2013
Please post verses 23 to 38 of 2 Kings 19 here Shamma and I will explain.

Since: Apr 11

Location hidden

#10 Oct 6, 2013
Darth Yoda wrote:
Please post verses 23 to 38 of 2 Kings 19 here Shamma and I will explain.
23 Who is it you have ridiculed and blasphemed?
Against whom have you raised your voice
and lifted your eyes in pride?
Against the Holy One of Israel!
24 By your messengers
you have ridiculed the Lord.
And you have said,
‘With my many chariots
I have ascended the heights of the mountains,
the utmost heights of Lebanon.
I have cut down its tallest cedars,
the choicest of its junipers.
I have reached its remotest heights,
the finest of its forests.
25 I have dug wells in foreign lands[c]
and drunk the water there.
With the soles of my feet
I have dried up all the streams of Egypt.’

26 “Have you not heard?
Long ago I ordained it.
In days of old I planned it;
now I have brought it to pass,
that you have turned fortified cities
into piles of stone.
27 Their people, drained of power,
are dismayed and put to shame.
They are like plants in the field,
like tender green shoots,
like grass sprouting on the roof,
scorched[d] before it grows up.

28 “But I know where you are
and when you come and go
and how you rage against me.
29 Because you rage against me
and because your insolence has reached my ears,
I will put my hook in your nose
and my bit in your mouth,
and I will make you return
by the way you came.

30 “This will be the sign for you, Hezekiah:

“This year you will eat what grows by itself,
and the second year what springs from that.
But in the third year sow and reap,
plant vineyards and eat their fruit.
31 Once more a remnant of the kingdom of Judah
will take root below and bear fruit above.
32 For out of Jerusalem will come a remnant,
and out of Mount Zion a band of survivors.
The zeal of the Lord Almighty
will accomplish this.

33 “Therefore this is what the Lord says concerning the king of Assyria:

“He will not enter this city
or shoot an arrow here.
He will not come before it with shield
or build a siege ramp against it.
34 By the way that he came he will return;
he will not enter this city,”
declares the Lord.
35 “I will defend this city and save it,
for my sake and for the sake of David my servant!”

36 Then the angel of the Lord went out and put to death a hundred and eighty-five thousand in the Assyrian camp. When the people got up the next morning—there were all the dead bodies! 37 So Sennacherib king of Assyria broke camp and withdrew. He returned to Nineveh and stayed there.

38 One day, while he was worshiping in the temple of his god Nisrok, his sons Adrammelek and Sharezer killed him with the sword, and they escaped to the land of Ararat. And Esarhaddon his son succeeded him as king.
Darth Yoda

Woodford Green, UK

#11 Oct 6, 2013
Thank you. Christians do not believe in a verbal inspiration that God told the writers to write these words direct. The Qur'an on the other hand is said to be a verbal inspiration in that the precise words the Prophet received were put down and memorised. This is why the Qur'an has phrases like "Say (Muhammad)..."

Isaiah 37 and 2 Kings 19 are the SAME word for word yet are attributed to different writers. There is NO way two writers could be inspired to write the same words, comma for comma, fullstop for fullstop. Therefore one is COPYING / PLAGIARISING from the other or BOTH are copying from a third source without acknowledgement!

This cannot be God's word - Shamma will explain!
Godhead

Slough, UK

#12 Oct 6, 2013
Darth Yoda wrote:
Thank you. Christians do not believe in a verbal inspiration that God told the writers to write these words direct. The Qur'an on the other hand is said to be a verbal inspiration in that the precise words the Prophet received were put down and memorised. This is why the Qur'an has phrases like "Say (Muhammad)..."
Isaiah 37 and 2 Kings 19 are the SAME word for word yet are attributed to different writers. There is NO way two writers could be inspired to write the same words, comma for comma, fullstop for fullstop. Therefore one is COPYING / PLAGIARISING from the other or BOTH are copying from a third source without acknowledgement!
This cannot be God's word - Shamma will explain!
Some people only think with a small percent of their brain.

Isaiah was a prophet for upto 4 Kings, and cover around 60 years. Book of 2nd Kings is noted to have been written by a number of prophet,(which could include the prophet Isaiah). You will notice both books refer to King Hezekiah, and cover the same timeline and period.

Muslim MUST pay attention to detailed information before criticising the TRUE word of God.
Adam

Keswick, Canada

#13 Oct 6, 2013
Shamma wrote:
<quoted text>Isiah 37,
Its meaning is that one day the angel of the Lord will destroy the religion of Islam and the Black stone Muslims worship.
There is only One God!!
The Father, Son, and Holy Spirit is the One person of God who manifest Himself as three persons of whom we call a Trinity.
That is the Uniqueness of God that allows God to accomplish all things according to His Will.
Vary well said Shamma dear. May your tribe increase

Since: Jul 11

Portland, OR

#14 Oct 6, 2013
Why is it plagiarizing if both are hearing the Holy Spirit tell them the same words? I dont see the young padawans point.

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